Barry Wensel - ETAR Seminar 2019

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] the guys would go around you know and say you know they'll come to these shows you know you're still hot you know I guess I guess maybe you know I mean every day I mean it's in stage right on maybe I should admit to it you know but as I've got older my mind I've changed and actually I'm high mileage now yeah right you know but I'm saying I mean I used to be a brag about the fact I could go into a block of timber whatever and you know a couple hundred acres I could run through it in five or six hours and I could pick the best tree and that fly that 200 acres whatever in five or six hours and now absolutely I don't agree with that in other words I have learned to slow down I was pretty good but I'm talking about I've learned to slow down and look detail look at things differ to walk that same piece of property for five or six times say five five times for an hour each and five different days and compares wind direction so which way everything's going and where you're jumping them in and I'm talking offseason and so forth versus walking there one time and disturb it for just you know six hours and get out you will learn patterns and stuff you know so it's a learning thing and I use the analogy it's like like a doctor looking at an x-ray versus Elena and I'm you know average guy you put an x-ray up on a screen the average guy looks at it and they'll see yeah there's the skull and there's the spine and there's the pelvis and all this stuff where as a doctor he looks at it and he's looking at it here go to their Spurs their calcium infiltration a hairline fracture you know dis relationships and tilt you know pelvic tilts and all this little detail stuff that's what we have to do as hunters get in the woods and scout and look slow down and check stuff out all right I mean as I said these guys I don't know I I get discouraged and everything because they don't um you could look at the aerial photos the topo maps you know and all this stuff put it all together but you can't see the detail on the ground that you can unless you get into woods and put you know boots on the ground type of thing deer whitetails you have to realize they're almost a big box and I'm talking let me ask a quick race your hand if you if you've got a buck less or is a buck last year raise your hand you know I'm in bunt gun or bow you guys suck you know no we'll try that we'll try to I bet he missed one have anybody gonna nobody's gonna confess no one guy missed well alright alright we'll try to fix that but anyway my point is it's it's a learning thing and it's accumulated knowledge type thing anyway I used the same thing you got you got deer hunters you got buck hunters and you got trophy buck hunters the the big mature animals are totally different than the rest that are heard and I'll explain the difference just to give you some scenarios and stuff say and I'll let me say this a cheap pitch here you know I've been letting dozens of videos most of my videos over the years have been more entertainment with a little bit of educational stuff in there and he's I just brought out two new ones and they are different they're how to I've got information that in there I thought everybody did it this this way any rate my point is it's it's how-to information to I finally realize you know I'm getting up in years and I might as well spill my guts you know and you know before I take all this good stuff that a to the grave with me and stuff you know I used to run those boot camps you know there's a couple how many guys in here went to the boot camp and II was one of them I know but anyway I ran him for 15 years and it would the guys would come in at the Thursday the first day was lecture like this I talked for you know all day type of thing and then the next two days I would take the attendees out know where we stayed in the nice lodges and stuff but they I'd take him out in the woods and show them my own personal tree stands and explain why their how I hunt them when I hunt um etcetera and stuff and so many guys you know I had a couple comments and I did this for fifteen years up to six weeks a year you know for 15 years or so hundreds of attendees type of thing and one of the most common things were guys say man it was so close you know and I didn't quite put it together type of thing I had a guy yesterday come by me and he said he said he just got the two new DVDs and they're there it's a two-part thing it's like four hours long and stuff like that and I don't guarantee much but I guarantee and it's my pitch I guarantee it'll make you a better deer hunter type of thing but this guy came by yesterday and he said I bought your DVDs wherever it was that one at Cloverdale or wherever you know one of the other shows here recently and he says it kind of made me look like an idiot he says I I looked at that and I said you know why didn't it's common sense why didn't I think it at you know and that's what I'm saying I assumed this stuff I've been doing for decades I thought everybody did but then I the whatever you want to say the old pro I didn't even into boot camps I didn't give away a lot of you know some of the secrets and stuff like that and as I said now I figured what the hell you know but anyway you know seriously it's like let me let me see this just like the Wiis you know there's one of the DVDs I can t remember which one is on but I think yeah I think I know which one it's not but anyway there's footage of a buck wheezing and I took that footage in 1980 it was either 80 or 81 I think it was I showed it to dear beyal i don't know again this was whatever was all 40 years ago deer biologist looked at it and what you know and they've never seen it before now everybody I kept that a secret I mean I you I studied it and I tested it and you know tried it and you know that works and this doesn't work anyway with the weeds type of thing for I don't know 25 years type of thing and then finally I figured I better share some of these guys so I went ahead and start you know talking about it and seminars and stuff like that and now they've got you know we commercial wheeze calls and stuff like that and but I mean frankly and I hope it don't mean to offend anybody here but you can make the noise with your mouth better and more accurate than they can the commercial wheeze call to me sounds too dry it's like just a hollow you know dry sound and you make it with your with your mouth and I start with a like that and then you can either blow air between your lip like the lower lip and upper teeth one way you can the bite the tip of your tongue or you can do it just through your nose but you got either all three ways I start with that like that and but it'll go draw that out or that doesn't have the volume right or you can just inhale you start with the the two and I go that's louder but a shorter type of thing when a buck does it he inhales but humans it's easier to exhale type of thing but doesn't matter but and trust me they can hear it I have had them bucks walking by from 250 yards away across the valley on the next ridge and I always they'll stop dead in their tracks turn and look at you and here they come type of thing I let me see this well I think of this stuff if you we I didn't even intend to talk about wheezes yet anyway if you wheeze and the cover around you say you're up in a tree they know exactly tell me to the foot where that noise came out a bit 250 yards over there and I'll steadily walk right up to you and they'll stop you know four yards from you like where the hell is it's going to be right here somewhere anyway if it's too open they heard the wheeze and they'll they can see it's open and where's the deer that we stabbed he's not here someone said I'll circle downwind type goes to try to dump wind you type of thing if it's too thick they can't see anything they'll circle downwind stuff so you'll want to do it in an area that's semi you know Soph you maybe you know scrub find their soft woods and and a lot of hardwoods type of thing so where they can see but not see too good and still see good enough and that way they will come right and the same you get the same exact approach to hear it they normally they their heads they lit they lay their ears back and have puff up inflate the ste hair stance and I hear they they walk like a stiff legged like two dog to male dogs getting ready to fight but they'll walk right in and stuff it works best on mature animals it works best on crews and bucks lone bucks that are walking looking for chicks and type of thing riff it's hard I've done it where I drew a boon well that one thing it was a boner but I drew them away from a doe type of thing but normally that doesn't happen it works best on single lone mature bucks you know so if you have a 4x4 stand in there 50 yards in you ease and he takes off that's you know don't write me a flame letter that means that there's a bigger win in any area and stuff you know the biggest bucks that are won in fact one of my buddies Ivan meu sock a anyway Irish guy right anyway he he lived in I'd in Iowa and he was hunting in eastern Colorado and he came over to house just before he left on his Colorado and this was I don't remember 15 years ago and he goes over to he came over to the house and he said teach me to wheeze deal right you know so I just like I'm doing you guys taught him to do it never done it before in his life goes to Colorado and he was sitting in a tree and it was a fent of the property boundary the buck was on the other side of the fence I mean it wasn't a lot not allowed to hunt over there the deer is walking away from him and he said he grinded he'd grind the antlers they're rattling antlers together you know deer stopped and looked kept walking he grunted deer stop look walked kept walking he rolled the can you know he did the doe bleed did everything he gave him everything he had and again the deer was going away and he said in fact I said it was kind of cute he says well here goes you know and he said it never done it and he wheezed that buck stopped on a dime five by five first boone and crockett you know thank you he he owes me a big time right anyway and sure is anything two years later he's in Iowa on his own farm in Iowa then the same exact thing happened a non-typical this time the other first one was typical but a non-typical same deal it was I don't know since 60 yards away going the other direction all alone he wheezed it worked walked he got to boone and crockett the only two times he ever wheeshed oh no I take it back because he said he missed another really big one I don't know how big it was but but I'm saying the only the first two times he did it he'd be called in to Boehner's type of things so anyway my point my point is that you know try it you know if if it doesn't work for you I'm sorry but it works great for me and it's I guess it a lot of it is in a timing I only do it do it during the rut etc but anyway I'm getting carried away as far as Bucks dealing being different how different they are I use that I use the scenario of a and on the DVDs I got I got grease boards and it's a little easier to understand but I'll try to explain it here say you've got a ridge going east west north this way South this way and your predominant wind direction is from the south alright and at the bottom of that Ridge the north down air did a food source an alfalfa field alright because of physics heat rises etc during the day and deer being basically nocturnal animals during the day the thermal currents are go flowing up the ridge so the deer are bedded a higher up on the ridge but they don't bad right on the top because then their skyline alright they're smart enough and this stuff you think about it you know yes their quote dumb animals but it's brilliant alright the flat top the reason it I don't bed right on the flat at the top is basically because they're potentially skyline so you come down the ridge on the leeward side and you'll be little too often there'll be little flats and stuff like that that's where they'll bed alright so the thermals are coming from north to south and the predominant wind as I said earlier was coming south to north where the thermals and the predominant wind hits each other it forms a tunnel and I usually exam it's kind of like the surfer you know the guy at the thing the guys surf on type of thing but it's brilliant that's where they'll bed so they can smell anything on the predominant wind side coming it can see down below and it can smell the thermal currents so they can see in situ way or one way and smell two ways type of thing that's where they bed now here's where it gets interesting well I'm getting carried away there the the Box in the dough's will usually bed separate meaning and I always talk an earlier about how you need to slow down and study stuff the guys will they'll be walking through that and I'm talking them through the hardwoods and and I'm not talking that's every snow on the ground but you'll see there's a bed and I used to be guilty the same thing you know there's a bed cool and I keep going now I slow down I look at the bed it's just crushed leaves but it's shaped like a Lima Bean you know you can tell which way their face and stuff yes yes his butt was over here and head with over here and which ways to win come in which ways a predominant win here type of thing you checked that and okay if you see a cluster of beds like that they've seen before or five six beds right there those are in you'll notice they're all facing different angles and that's for security type of thing all right the Bucks will generally the mature box will bed separate different than the the herd to grow the dough groups and stuff normally the the Bucks will first of all be a bigger bed but they'll be off to the side they might have one buddy with them but they're separate from the rest of the herd alright well I think it is I mean again some guys you know half of the room here probably knows this but the other half might not but if you see a bed in the snow that were of the deer is you know late in the melted snow but it doesn't got right down to the leaves yet just a you know of the shape of a body you can look at that bed and tell if it's a buck or a doe and the Reeb anatomically okay when a deer stands up from the bed won't one of the first things he does is void the bladder he'll pee anatomically the the shape of a buck he'll pee in the yellow spot will be in the center of the bed whereas a doe you know the yellow spot will be right on the edge of the bed so you can look at that bed and yeah that's a buck and that's a doe you know don't eat the yellow snow Kolby anyway anyway you know that's the stuff you need to think about and learn but back to the scenario the the thermals are coming up all day all right hot air rises cold air is heavier cold air goes downhill all right the the buck or the the family group the the the immature box those fawns any afternoon while the thermals are coming up the mountain and they got the wind at their face they will get up from their bed and slowly start to descend the mountain head to the food source and stuff so they got a nose wind type of thing they'll enter the field the big buck the mature buck totally different critter he remains bedded at the top of the Ritter near the top of the ridge until Dee thermalization once the Sun Goes Down and the air starts to cool it's heavier and they'll reverse and those thermals will start to descend the mountain type of thing then he'll stand up from his bed and again think about this he'll start to go down the mountain now he's got the thermals at his back and the predominant wind at his back but and the feeble hob why are you doing that because he has the rest that I heard standing out in the field in the you know the food source act in his decoys you bust one button buck out in that field and you don't even know the big guy who has lived there he's around that's the reason that he is the last one to usually enter the field just before dark you know he'll enter the field like that and the exact reverse is true in the morning while it's still dark where the thermals still coming down the mountain he'll head up to the bedding area type of thing so it can smell anything upwind of them and the rest that are heard or acting like decoys in a field behind them and stuff like that that's how they live that's how that's how they move type of things be and again you know different situations vary but that's the general it makes perfect absolute common common sense the same thing let me say this the same thing are very similar is true Oh remind me about coyotes okay that's the same thing going you know it's true as far as if you say you got a ridge same deal you got a ridge going east west north is this way south is this way you know again it's hard a hardwood Ridge if you look around and I I assume it's like this around here but a lot of hard wood ridges right at the top it'll be a flat it might be 25 yards wide might be a hundred yards wide but there'll be a flat on the top of that Ridge where it drops down on that side and it'll drop down on this side and you'll look and I said you don't unless you study this you won't notice it and you'll look and yeah there was an old skid trail here it was you know they logged this 60 years ago and the reason the skid trail is on top of it that flat in the old days it was easier to just get the logs out on a flat rather than down over the hillside that is human sign type of thing but the remnants of that logging road you'll see the they'll be quite a few tracks on and stuff and that's where guys mess up they'll see the tracks on that flat of that logging road but they don't realize most of those tracks they're nocturnal tracks they'll still set up the state again the winds going this way so they'll get up 15 yards or whatever 20 yards off to the side of that to track get on I've sort of winds blowing it this way like this you know and expected here to be going up and down that road but you think about it I mean how many how many times you heard it you know the guy I mean a good hunter but he just didn't thinking far enough he's sitting there the winds going this way all the tracks are right in front of him like this and oh man biggest buck oh my if he came in right behind me you know damn I mean that's because that's where he was supposed to come in because most of the Bucks sign will be down on the leeward side not on the top and on a leeward side of the hill they'll the Bucks will have a separate distinct trail and you think about the logistics of it all right the center again he's not sky lining himself on that on the the top of the ridge you know he's down over the side the predominant wind is coming from the south to the north so we can smell anything that's upwind of him stuff he can see down in the hardwoods below him you know so he can smell what he can't see and see what he can't smell type of thing they will be so where you want to set up 15 yards of 20 yards you know down from the buck run not from the top type of thing you know it makes absolutely perfect sense once in a while you'll catch a buck walking on the top and normally it's in the morning I've seen it occasionally in the morning and yet the same thing you think about the reasoning behind it the reason is it's been night I'm you know in the morning all night long there's been no vehicular traffic yeah there's no guys cutting firewood no squirrel hunters no hikers or bird watchers everything's been calm all night long all right and he's hurrying to get back to worry wants to bed type of things all right anyway my point is he's in a rut right there but in the afternoon 99 times out of a hundred well maybe 95 times out of a hundred he'll be off to that side down over that hill slowly picking his way up through so he can smell anything that he can't see and you see he'll work his way that's where you set up just downwind of him and some big bucks that the older they get the how shall I say it that that the more intelligent they get they if they had when they got but even between three and four years old or especially when you go from four to five and then five to six the older they get the sharper they get and I mean they learn from other deer but then you got to throw in the personalities in other words some Bucks are much more aggressive than other Bucks some are timid and I usually now it's like like a dog you know one dull dog will run up and wag his tail and lick yeah yeah the other one will run up and bite you and growling bite you and stuff like that they're just you know more aggressive that Bucks are the same way there was one in fact this is interesting this year just this nice big heavy five and a half year old five by four by four came by me you know and I remember him from beer before and he was he was a fire I mean he was all a cruise and all the time I'll bet he lost apotheke I mean I'm not a thirty five forty pounds during between October and the end of November type of thing anyway he came by me typical I mean the whole three no fret as he was a normal rack in October and I don't don't hold me did a dates but it was like the beginning of November he came by and he snapped the main beam between a brow tine and the pedicle right there he I mean I take it you know it takes a lot of leverage to snap a main beam we broke the lefthand tlie off completely and then the right one had still had four points on it saw him a week later and here he is nothing it was one main beam and he broke all the points off completely right there's a little nub sticking up one main beam right and you know that's all he had left you know but I reckon you could recognize him easy then anyway the third time it comes by me in fact it's on one of the video that I can remember one of those two new videos and stuff I had a little 30 second clip and I said this is the kind of buck you don't want to shoot not this not the one I'm talking about that but anyway there was a it was a I can't remember it's a little 5x5 but it was a nice cup and coming two and a half-year-old whatever 5x5 and I and I said here's the kind of buck you want to make don't shoot him he's gonna be a trophy someday when he were the one with the bus that time comes by me and his hair is his main beam the whole front half looked like it dipped in in the bucket a red blood you know type of thing you know and obvious he just stabbed something and that's why I'm saying the I chem next day or any was next day or day after you know here's that little buck I said whatever you do don't kill him areas laying there with the with the puncture wound rape the lungs you know I'm sure it was like 200 yards from where I saw the same deer but it gets better right whatever the fifth time he comes by me here's his right if he doesn't have any protection now what happens rack is gone his right eye ball is hanging down completely out of the socket hanging down on his cheek and go like this and it was flopping around and stuff in a go that's gonna leave a mark you know but anyway it's hanging down right and I went oh man you know me a week later he comes by and it's it's the same book I mean absolutely no question one hundred percent sure it's the same book the eyeballs now back in a socket how'd help me do that you know you know I have no idea I don't know if they they you know rub it on a tree or you know that's what that tells my buddies that's what those Forks you know the hooks you push the eyeball back in you know but anyway my point is they're they're all different personalities and some will be much more aggressive others will in the smart ones it's a learning situation they will they will slow down and as I said gene and I go around about this all the time about in instinct versus reasoning you know deer are not supposed to reason and I'm saying they're not reasoning per se they're doing things instinctively just it's inbred or you know whatever but here's an example one year I'm sitting in a stand and I looked up I don't know is 80 yards from me and it was a it was a nice I don't remember three four year old maybe four year old I think it was a five by four I can't remember but anyway he's like 80 yards away and he's walking right to me and the main the land contour I was on the little side of a hill that went flat and we're right in front of me and he had to a string of scrapes there and you know but anyway he's 80 yards away this is a pika to rot whatever November 10th right anyway and here he comes and all sudden he lays down he lays down and I like if a deer is laying there you know I grab my buddy's just yeah oh man I drawn him four times before he busted me well why did you let him bust you you know I like if I see deer bedded don't disturb them watch them they'll see incoming deer way before you will the I usually analogy with the elk hunters you got the old elk hunters went in the mountains in the you know the Rockies in a pack train you know the cowboy in the lead and stuff he doesn't they're not it's got elk hunters clients with them but they're not he's not looking for Alfred he watches that horse and that horse all sudden the horse will go you know you know dear you look out there and he looks out there eight hundred yards and there's a dozen elk running across things you know those animals will pick that stuff up what I tell you to remind me of what okay yeah I don't normally forget but anyway okay this is some good stuff anyway they'll see something long-range what the only to talk oh the eyes when I was I don't know I was like eight years old my dad who is a great white deer hunter in his own right died in an accident at very early age at age of 44 but I remember him telling me you know and I don't really know this is back in the 50s you know early 50s I don't know where he got the information I still don't know because there wasn't that that knowledge I mean I talked to deer avid deer hunters today and they don't know the ant that they don't know this but anyway my dad said if there's a buck standing broadside our deer you're gonna shoot standing broadside looking at you if you raise your weapon vertically and draw right back you got a chance right or if we can give gun if you know raise it from you know right up and pop them you got a chance but if you try to bring it to swing draw horizontal or if you take your rifle and bring it horizontal they'll bust you every time so I started testing it and stuff like that and then and he was absolutely right anyway then I started researching it and it's because of the rods and cones in a deer's year year a deer is I there I'm close I'm tired I got up four o'clock this morning anyway the rods and cones in the deers eye the rods deep detect you know motion and late you know the cones detect color and high-resolution stuff and you think about why in other words a deer is a prey animal a predator Oddie all the Predators you know the the the coyotes the wolves the cat the Bobcat the mountain lion they all come in horizontal that airai is is able to pick up that horizontal movement is a you know protective defense type of thing you know let me say this but not before I forget this and I'll ask there's a couple of guys I don't know if you're here tonight I we were talking about it today at the booth but if you're here don't ruin it for everybody else but for years I thought I mean how many guys in here have shot or seen but dear bucks whatever was split ears you mean you know I mean they're very quite common I mean I've killed several of them right but they have split ears and I always thought it was from them fighting or when they were scoot you know young and they were sliding under a fence or whatever that catch it on the barbed wire or whatever that's what I always thought type of thing anyway here was that the year before last I'm sitting in this treestand and it was a little four key comes in and he was like thirty yards over here bedded down and all I said just earlier I know I'll study them don't spook them I'll watch him type of thing and when he's laying their head up in his eyes and clothes like that and it opened up and they'd look around earlier his eyes would close he was sleeping catching you know a few nods and stuff but he nothing was moving except his ears and I just happened to look at this the perfect time I looked at him and this all comes flying in grabs his four keys right here the death grip with the talons you know the court the four key freaks out and he goes this way and he all freaks out and goes this way split the ear you know and I'm sure that you know other things happen in in the woods but I'll just about bet you know that a lot of them are caused from owls type of thing you know so you heard it here first let me tell you - coyote thing before I say the coyote same thing no wait a minute well does that guy here that was showing the movie last night okay anyway I think I can't remember if was on that one film last night but I saw it just recently on TV and they always say the same thing they say you know that that coyotes and stuff will bring down this the old and a sickly and starting that or that you know whatever whatever the week type of thing bull I'm totally convinced and I'll tell you the reason more big bucks get killed by coyotes than all arrested those and fawns and young immature bucks put together and a reason being the younger deer if they see coyotes alright the first thing they do a minute is coyopa five or six coyotes over there the first thing they do they run the other direction and they run but like I said the mature buck how many times you're sitting in there watching a field and there's a dozen dough's out there and all sudden it gets right before dark and the man steps out over here and the rest that I heard looks over and you know who there's the man will give they pay respect to him will give him that corner of the field what about the lushest alfalfa is or whatever and they'll move aside but they give that big buck respect he gains that respect and earns that respect because of the rest of the herd but the killing the the bad part of it is that's what happens when a pack of coyotes approached that big mature buck he looks at him and unlike the rest of the herd that run take off he look at their that that five or six coyotes and come on I'll take you on type of thing you know he expects respect and he'll take them on but what he doesn't calculate into the the formula is the fact that there's five or six of them and two or three of them will harass his face and the other two or three will come around behind him hamstrung them rip the femoral artery out and he's dead in a minute and a half if he would have run like the doze and a little she would have been fine but I found more big bucks killed in my opinion killed by coyotes then you know all the rest of them put together and stuff you know let me see here so we're getting good here I I live in Iowa and I hunt my my property right behind the house and my my neighbor like best friend type of thing I mean he's a excellent whitetail hunter in his own right and the deal is I rent a property from but I can only shoot I can only bow on it which I don't do gun hunt at all anyway so that's fine I can we only shoot five and a half year old bucks or better type of thing you don't shoot you know one under five and a half at all if at all possible and no friends you know he has friends that can hunt there but I can't you know so don't try that you can you can try me but you know you know butter me up but I just hate to tell you no but anyway my my point is I don't know I never added it up say it's I think say 450 acres of hardw it's all there's three little food plots in it the biggest one is probably an acre and a half maybe I don't know but all those food plots are four they're all surrounded by timber the only reason they're there is to give the deer an opportunity for you know to hold them but before it gets dark rather than let them you know step out next to the county road when it you know the bad guys are walking or driving by and stuff they're just you know keep keep them in the timber and it not it's obvious and stuff but anyway the the see I lost my train of thought wait a minute the the reason I was talking about the besides that I know the size of the property gee my brother he says you know I wouldn't go telling him that that's kind of embarrassing you know well I'm gonna tell you out of 450 acres I've got 85 ladder stands on it all right and it you know the read but let me clarify that all those 85 latter stands there's dozens of them that I haven't sat for years type of thing I got observation stands I got stands that are up when it's foliage before the foliage drops I got late-season stands I got rut stands pin you know all different kinds of stands that are for certain reasons etc when I get up in the morning and I don't care how anybody else does it but when I get up in the morning first thing I do I turn the computer on and get out of weather service whatever one you use make sure it has the the wind direction hourly type of thing very very important and stuff so I'll look at that you know the hourly wind predictions and out by doing that right I have charts sheets that I printed out in eight different wind directions north south east west north east south west etc eight different wind directions and and morning stands an evening stance type of thing so I'll look at the computer and say the computer will say you got it this morning you got a southwest wind and you know about eleven o'clock it's gonna go to the northwest and about two o'clock it's gonna go out of the Northeast so it's done a 180 between daylight and 2:00 in the afternoon so I'll go to my charts and I go down and I'll say okay I need you know here's the list of stands that are good for a Southwest morning option and here's the stands an issue that are good for a south or north east afternoon option that way you can plan your hunt all right I'll go in and I'll tend to you know no I'll eliminate I'll look say I got it's a southwest wind and I got twelve stands that are doable but okay that one the farmer just cut the field right next to that one and that one you know my buddy hunted the other day and when we caught at rest you know whatever whatever maybe I'll and I hunted three days ago and it narrows it down at ease for then I hate to tell you but I go by gut feeling you know I'll look at those four and oh yeah I haven't hunted that one for you know a month yeah I'm gonna try that one but mate once you set your mind to what you make your mind up stick with it all right all right well I thought was ring okay anyway and then the afternoon yet the exact opposite you picked the one so you plan your hunt and hunt your plan if you don't do that you'll be sitting in the southwest and all sudden the wind will be it'll be totally wrong and you'll disturb the entire area hunting undisturbed deer is one of the most important critical things I can tell you and stuff when you hunt undisturbed animals you will have deer doing things the way they are supposed to do type of thing and you can capitalize on them and stuff here let me see here this Dan oh yeah my my bucks and as I said I'm not bragging but I've killed for boone and crockett swith recurves all under 15 yards and I'm saying this because just that justify my techniques work you know as you know an easier big mature bucks that one of the posters I just gave colby all those bucks on there I got two more hanging on a wall at the booth all those bucks were taken under 15 yards you know with a recurve type of thing my theories are valid type and I said I'm not saying this to brag I'm saying this you need to pay attention and those are the things you need to understand and stuff understand there's reasoning why deer do certain things they don't just haphazardly walk around through the timber every move they make is dependent on the their nose oh I start I didn't even finish that story about the the one that bedded down and he stood up and he walked four he walked that the he was 80 yards and he walks in he bends down he's laid there for a minute stood up and he walked ten yards and he bedded down again laid there for a minute and a half two minutes they stood up and walked another ten yards I said he's really tired you know I mean he's he better talent bet it down like five times in the last 75 yards right anyway and don't all send it dawned on me I was in a wide valley and what he was doing he was what he was he refused to walk unless he had his nose to verify his safety so he would stand there and the window when the wind was in his face he would slowly walk forward and then the wind would shift he couldn't smell what was in front of him he'd stand there and then finally bed down and then laid there and okay and then the wind went to his favor he'd stand up walk another ten yards you know he was moving strictly because of the wind and his being able to detect what's there people don't realize like the the snort you know when a deer snorts everybody yeah you know he smelled me you know well maybe and maybe not but when what a snort the function of a snort is to clear the nasal passages of mucus you know they're full of and it looks like mucus but it's not get it but anyway anyway anyway he'll blow the snot out of its nose which clears the nasal passages but what it also is doing is moistening the orifice the opening of the nose it will have moisture on it now a moist orifice will pick up scent molecules way better than a dry nose I mean how many times you sit there he's yep a buck licking his nose that's what he's doing he's licking he's moist inning the orifice to pick up the molecules what we as hunters guys don't realize that we don't again it's it's like we're in a different league I mean we don't realize the acute and the accuracy and acuteness of a deer sense of smell you can walk by I've done it I've wait well you know you'll walk by at a bush and you know and I rubbed up against it and two hours later a dull walked by and you know walk up to that bush and you know I mean they just they smelled you walk you just brushing walking by it if you got if you're going into your stand and you got a to track and this is some of this stuff is important and some of its not so important but I'll you know you needs to get you to thinking right anyway you got a two-track going through the timber type of thing an old logging road and betwee can drive a pickup up and down it and stuff like that but in in the middle of the two tracks there's some grass there all right so it's a it's a rut and in a high spot and in another rut a lot of guys won't walk in the ruts because they're afraid of twisting an ankle they'll walk on the top between the two rows right all right but there's knee-high grass in there you're permeating that dress much more so than you will be if you're walking in the rut itself but the same thing say that the two track is going east west north this way shot this well you got a South predominant wind coming across like this right if you walk in the left rut right and you're the molecules the mid I say it's like a mist the molecules from your human sense will drift downwind and permeate the other track whereas if you walk in that to try a track over there the wind is carrying your scent off of the trail and a buck can walk right down this track and he doesn't have a clue you know the scent and smokey you know he can verify this you know when when a deer follows you know you can put the whatever doe in heat on a on a scent rag and pull it behind you and stuff like that a lot of guys they see guy they'll tie it to their boot you know type of thing and they'll walk in and they'll drag the scent right behind them and stuff I don't know no I don't I mean just to be on the safe side I'll kid I'll cut like a willow whip it's ten feet long yeah and tie your scent rag on the end of that and drag it so your scent drag is over there 10 feet type of thing and not we're in it that's the difference where you can walk just I mean elevation changes you can just walk feet one way or another and get away with it where you're completely blowing the situation if you don't do that and stuff I remember one situation I was something in Nebraska and this nut and in my was from Montana there was just one place that the terrain it looked exactly like the brownie if you just blindfolded me took me in there I wouldn't have known if I was in Montana or Nebraska that looked identical right but it was dry creek beds I was near the river and it was all you know flood plains and stuff like that and it was sandy soil in my camera which one of what yeah Nebraska all the deer that were paralleling that were that correct that River were down in the river themselves the exact same appearing terrain in Montana all the deer were on top of the shelf above the creek the dry creek bed the difference is that the deer in Nebraska that were down in the creek they were there in other words they could just barely see over the horizon of the flat up on top so they were out of sight out of mind and they can still see up on the flat whereas in Montana those deer walking down in the creek it was this high they couldn't see up over it so because they couldn't see their I mean one foot of elevation change made two deer shift their movement up on the top rather than in the bottom she is you know set up accordingly I had I get to this one biggie Hoffman I walked around for like I don't know two hours I knew the country pretty good but I walk around for an hour or two right and then I went and I got him and I came back and I said that tree right there and on he says why and I say I ain't gonna tell you it is trust you know trust me put your foot your stand in that tree and shut up I got to go get know right stand right so he does right the next morning and I said I said put it that way face it this way the Bucks gonna come over here he's gonna walk right down fright here perfect when you're gonna nail him okay you know the next morning he climbs in the tree you know I don't know it was early I was like let me say earlier it's like 10 o'clock in the morning he's the biggest buck of his life 166 or something like that I've had giant you know beautiful stud whitetail and only calls you know you know how did you know that you know I can't do this you know but it you know anyway he kept digging and stuff like that and I says all right okay I'll tell you and I said look at that the tree line up there and it was a it was like a bowl and if you could see up the tree line the skyline and it was a pasture it was hardwoods and it was a pasture on the other side and then passed that over the horizon there was a finger that came out and I pointed up that you know through the hardwoods and I said what do you see up there and he says trees you know and I said no no look be careful what do you see and he says nothing these trees you know I said okay I'm gonna point it out so you understand I said follow your eye right along the horizon and you get right to there and you'll see and it was probably 15 feet wide it was a little dip I mean not a foot lower than the left or right of it instead I see that little concavity right there and he says you're not telling me that they're gonna all walk just because it's a foot lower you know and I says no come here come with me right and I took we went up and I said look at this now you go up over to Horizon on the other side and as a finger that came out to a point with trees so the deer would crossing from A to B that 30 and that that finger is maybe I don't know 30 maybe 40 yards of brush and trees coming off the point and I said they're coming would think about where they're coming and where they're going to and you'll see that's the closest place from A to B for them exposing themselves across that pasture and it was only I mean 70 yards or something but they they shift their movement from point A to point B they cross that pasture and then once they got in that little dip they would come down and the I said look at the lay of the land how that bevel kind of comes down and it swings over this way it's gonna give you a perfect wind and I says you know and he says I'll be damned he says how do you do this stuff you know I mean just you know it I mean he really likes me now but mpany yeah but anyway it was pieces of the puzzle when I I'll take and the same thing got a couple things I'm getting carried how much time you got we got plenty all right anyway I'll say to guys you know why did you pick this stand you know I don't know it was a cool tree you know whatever you know I you should be able to pick out a dozen reasons why the tree you want is the best one in the area and stuff and I've said it a hundred times I would much rather have a mediocre tree and a great spot than a great tree in a mediocre spot type of thing but I will shift these guys said you know say you know again all those bucks I shooter ten twelve yards in under 15 yards how do you do that you know I shift their movement a lot on that one video I used there was one example that I used that you look out as far as the eye can see as far as the I mean on the next horizon right there's a cultivated a cornfield in that in the video it's a cornfield right and I'll point out I said see the brush to the right of it okay North is that way just to the east of a sheet of brush and just to the left it's the pasture and I said the defense running where the brush in the pasture to you know running north-south I said you follow that fence down to the bottom and there's a corners up a corner just like that it's a pinch point all right the predominant wind is coming from the south the deer are going from the food source coming in as a like a finger of couple three actually fingers of brush so the deer are being pin between the cultivated crop to the fenced corner come down they cross the fence in that pinch in that corner they come down they cross the creek at the narrow the most the easiest place for the animals to get across as this Creek bottom then they touch a finger that goes up through the thing and up the ridge like this once and I'm pointing this stuff out and then once behind me there was an old I mean this is I I cut I move on with permission nice they did this stuff you do make sure you're asked to landowner tell you and you know it's nothing I mean there was a an old rusty barbed wire fence but it was structure you know but I needed it where I wanted it so I'm in fact the landowner was with me and I said you know it's an old rusty fence I said would you mind if I cut made a gate here and he said you know I don't I don't care you know his hadn't been cattle in there for 25 years you know I know so anyway I snipped the wires opened them up made you know cut the the saplings out of there I made a gate opening there the reason I picked that is over the ridge behind me there was an old farm pond and it's not I bet it's not 40 yards wide but there's a waterhole I mean a you know an old form it holds water so it's a water source type of thing the deer will go around you know the edge of it type of thing so that's what I'm getting at there was an integral past it and up on the ridge on the south and lay bed there facing this way type of thing with the wind at their back everything fits together but there was like 12 things in a line type of thing let me tell you this you know as I said I cut that thing 20 years ago and you know it's perfect that the thing anyway that buck I got in 2011 190 and 1/8 right I missed him 1 2 years before that and I goes a little horizontal inch branch going down right down the body you know and I knew if I hit below it just close it I might hit him too low and I had to just kissed the top of that limb I kissed it alright you know went up you know type of thing but anyway I missed I mean in fact I named him Hurley because right then I felt like hurlan you know right over that the air then anyway I missed them so then I had you know so the next year that was he was gonna be my prime target and stuff I wanted him and yes one thing led to another I was in another stand in this book I did I had passed up two-year I passed him up when he was gonna get my things next five yes when he was five and a half I passed him up could he had a busted time alright I never saw him when he was six and a half and when he was seven and a half here he comes walking by me and he was he was a buna Crockett four by four I mean hundred and but over a son or 72 I mean is really rare but I I wanted Turley you know but he stood right there 14 yards and I lost control you know and I plugged them you know so now then I didn't have a tag so then I early comes walking by me and I didn't have a buck tag type of thing I had to pass him up but anyway the next year I figured out his pattern and what he was doing was making a circuit and I verified this I saw him do it twice and I saw and we had a trail camera and I could see him on a trail camera - one time - anyway he would be he would feed some beaver beans or corn fields or there was you know with crop rotation he'd feed a field down at the bottom of the ridge and he to bring this finger Ridge up and he would cross there was an natural opening well it wasn't natural in fact it was an old railroad tie there but that's where a gate used to be but that had been in cattle in there for whatever 40 50 years and it was all filled in and briars and stuff like but he'd come through there and then he would cross a little to track and he walked this finger down and so forth and go down and he would drop down to the next Creek bottom cross that go up on the ridge and lay on that next Ridge with the south-southwest wind at his back facing the way it came in in the morning and in the afternoon he would get up and he'd follow down around and come around make a big circuit type of thing well I end up I went in wanted to pinpoint and this stuff is is good learning stuff but I wanted to shift his movement to where I am I could say I can't remember what I told you I got 12 screws and two plates in his arm and busted I'm all busted up and stuff I can't shoot like I used to be able to so I set my stick my shots up for 15 or 12 to 15 yards I like like 12 yard shots but my point is you know where he was coming through the only decent tree it was I don't know 20 yards or something like that from you know the stand and it wasn't a great tree but it was in a great spot type of thing so I put put a ladder in there and then I went in and I clipped got some branches and I basically blocked the nor his normal and I'm saying I shifted his movement maybe I don't know what four or five yards something like that toward me then I took a rake and I raked the leaves right down to bare ground type of thing you know and then I put some a scrape there and put some a smoky stuff and you know anyway sure enough you know and let me say this I mean the first ice it was the last day of October and I remember we had a cold front come through and that day I sat it was a southwest wind ice at that stand and I passed up I think was 13 bucks but not the one you know they were chasing and running everywhere you know and it was third whatever 34 or 38 degrees or something like that but they were going crazy the last day of October the next day that front blew through the next day it was it went up 30 degrees I mean in fact that afternoon it hit 80 type of thing so it went from whatever 34 to 80 and you know 24 hours type of thing anyway I get the I didn't see I saw all kinds of action but I didn't see the one I wanted because the wind was perfect I decided I'm gonna sit the stand two days in a row and I'll do that as long in other words yeah I don't like to do it but I will do it if conditions are right so that in other words you're not disturbing too many animals and stuff because the deer I want the only one I'm going to shoot when you know when he comes by on Tuesday Monday he might have been two miles away doesn't have a clue I was anywhere in the area and stuff some of the other you know deer might but you know the one I want he didn't come by so I set that stand up November first eight I don't remember it was 8:30 in the morning here he comes in fact there he was he was the first deer I saw and by 8:30 day day before it I already seen like a dozen or something you know deer type of thing but because it had warm front it shut it right down anyway he walked right by and I plugged him I got him and stuff right but other I left the stand there and other I you know hunted at other times and I noticed on again the the logging roads going like this though my wind is going like this and the deer that we're walking the logging road would get by me you know they'd get down here and they would bust me right so what did I do to improve that I went ahead I left the stand where it is just for an option type of thing but I went and I got another ladder and it was there's one little cedar tree I bet it's not that big around on that wire fence thing but it was like 25 yards from that cedar tree cedar I like Cedars because they got more density and and don't she had the needles and stuff like that okay but it was on the the downwind side of that logging road so those deer that were walking down the logging road now I'm downwind of them right but the gate was too far so I plugged that gate up I cut all kind of saplings and piled him in there and rewired it and you know I slammed the door on that gate and I came to fence post toward me and I cut a new open you know a new fence right there and I made it perfect for them and I mean instantly I mean they'd walk dead walk right by me all day and a ones walking out and it was it's just shifting their movement - what's benefits you the same that the same plan is for a similar plan as that as far as that goes up if you like I said on that downwind side a lot of times you'll have saplings where they take the canopy off and in the log in and it'll feel to be a thicket there and then it drops down into the hardwoods you know way back long time ago they didn't like logging on the hillsides and stuff like that said of bucks it's the same scenario the south wind coming this way they're going from whatever west to east type of thing and their wind's coming across like this all right the only good tree and this is a scenario this is I killed a really nice buck out of that tree there's this one tree there it was a lightning it's got struck by lightning my stand is and remind me about the stand how low some of them are but anyway the stand was probably 10 I don't know my feet are like 10 feet and I purposely because of the lightning killed the tree and it's laying on the ground so there's a double you know it gives me much better cover plus there's no more tree I can't get any higher right but anyway I put this ladder in there and the deer the main deer travel pattern was about 25 yards from the best tree and I say I'm a 15-yard guy all right so you know what I go in and this is all preseason you know like in September you know our season doesn't open the first October and I'll I'll do it you know in the summer you know September or whatever but I want to shift their movement the the feedings just way in the beddings this way I want to shift their movement 10 yards you know towards me type of thing so you take here's here's their standard trail right here and again my trees over here 25 yards from the trail so I want to shift them over 10 yards towards my tree so I'll take a tree I don't know six eight inches in diameter and hinge cut it and again I assume you all know what hinge cutting is yes the old days a girdle a tree and the tree would and a wind would blow - what happened whatever direction the wind was blowing that day that's the direction it'll fall well if you hinge cut it you can drop it and you can manipulate the angle it'll you know but and you don't want to you try not to kill the tree so in other words you take a six irradiance here's the run right you take a six or eight inch tree between the run and my stand and I will cut it at an angle I'll use this anyway here's the tree like this I'll cut it at an angle maybe three feet up you want it high enough that they're not going to jump over it and low enough that they're not going to go over type of thing here's the crown of the tree the angle is very important meaning you if you don't cut it all the way through the tree will still draw nutrients up out of the soil and it will relief the next year if it dies no too bad but I try not to kill them and stuff but anyway you cut it at an angle like this there's the stand here's the run or here's the run I should say and you tip the crown of the tree the top across the whole tree across at a 45 degree angle from the run you tip it like that alright the crown of the trees like this alright if you put it this way or if you put if you put it perpendicular sometimes they'll just jump but sometimes they'll go around it either way alright if you put it this way it tends to shift them but will defeat the purpose you put it in a 45 this way so the crown of the trees up here back out you'll see the deer will walk along there and oh I didn't finish you drop the tree like this alright then I go toward the stand and I'll take my hole I use a hole not a rake I've tried to the garden but the stiff teeth and they pick up leaves you got a clean clear leaves off it and a little believe the one wimpy ones that you know rake your lawn they're not not enough half to them I use it's called a garden hoe I think and it's got two prongs and it's a the whole part of its I don't know pipe 5 inches wide and you can turn it sideways and use it you know like a regular hoe type of thing you know but that works excellent stuff but I'll go after I that the tree is down that'll go between that down tree and my and and I'll rake the leaves right down to dirt bare dirt and stuff and go around it and stuff then again some guy there that's in that that's in the morning when they're going from the feeding to the bedding up this way guys will say okay what about in the afternoon you know you can do the same thing and the other on the other side of it you know to shift them that way so you want but basically what I've done I've shifted their movements they get a visual here comes the deer from the feeding going through his bed and grounds and the trail that he's walked for his whole life all sudden is a tree down across it and stuff and you know you know a tree down oh there's a run right there they'll go walk right to your run type of thing and you end up he'll walk right by it 15 yards or whatever you want them to be instead of you know and that's not cheating I mean that that is just smart hunting I mean in fact it's good for the sport because most guys are better shots at 12 or 15 yards and they are 25 or 30 yards type especially that the traditionalists so you want to shift their movement where you want it another thing well what I start to say remind me about the bear tracks anyway if you've got a about that right now if you have how many guys in here hunted bear over bait wherever alright yeah a lot of them you know if you have a bear bait a barrel a bait right there and multiple bear hit that bait if you look around it's a pecking order thing that's a dominant bear versus a subordinate a big boar well he might bet right over there off the barrel and any in bed there yeah remind me call me remind me about morning and afternoon scrapes all right anyway he'll be he'll be bedded down right fort near to barrel the subordinate bear will come in and they'll sneak in they if you look you'll see distinct pad marks where the bear places his right foot left foot right foot left to quietly enter that bear that barrel bait barrel because he knows if he just walks in the big boy the man might be bedded right there and again his butt whooped type of thing so I do the same thing with my crease dance and not all of them I got to clarify this not all of them but I'm talking and I wait I'm talking just if it needs it and I'll give you an example all right and in the video I did a couple examples and stuff and I mean to but I'll take and and but here's your tree stand it's a finger Ridge right and and there's a ball and there's another Ridge over there the winds going across this way just like I said the the box will be bedded on that second Ridge with the wind at their back facing over this way all right any and and the entrance to the stand most guys don't did they get lazy and they'll walk right down that finger Ridge and walk out climb up in the stand major major mistake you go past the stand I drop down in a bowl akka sidehill it I use the tree or cluster of trees that have this example I use I don't three or four trees but use that but then and I normally do this around the 1st of November you know and I do this on a day that is not good hunting like a windy day or a stormy day or whatever and I want it to be at a time when most of the foliage is cleared off and dropped but I'll go in there and and I'm talking just the last 50 yards or so before you get to the tree stand over the horizon so the deer on that next ridge or bedded there with the wind at your back face this way all right and I'll take the the hoe and I'll rake right down to bare earth you know right step left step right all the way to the base of the tree stand I'll take the leaves away you know and I mean I filmed it you can here put the mic down there and I mean 100 percent difference total quiet not up you can hear a pin drop versus walking through six inches of cornflakes and stuff trust me I've done it I've done it many times where I'll sneak into that stand climb up into the stand and sitting there 20 minutes all sudden you see a near flicker damn there's a big buck bettered right over there 80 yards and guarantee you 100% you wouldn't have you wouldn't have got up in that tree you know it he would have one bound and he's over the ridge type of to bounce whatever he's over to ridge and I'm saying all sudden you're sitting there sitting there all on red alert and he stands up and here he comes you know there's a buck you could have shot if you want him and you wouldn't even known he was here had you not done that you know the bear tracks what was the thing I was gonna tell you oh yeah oh yeah no morning scrape guys what okay I'll pay about guys I'll say to me you know when you hunt scrapes do you think scrapes are better in the morning or an eve their afternoon type of thing and it's my opinion and again I've studied this stuff for decades and stuff alright a big mature buck will be very similar to a bear on the bait barrel he'll he will bed right near a may a breeding scrape right the other deer know that during the day most of the deer are bedded and that big boy might be laying heir garden so they will normally come in downwind of the scrape you know in you know in the morning because the deer will be bit better there said I'll come down when and scent check that scrape and if the big bucks over there you know they can smell them whereas in the afternoon they actually come in and physically work the scrape type of thing because they think the big boy is we're gonna have a real irritation doz all through the field all night you know that big boy he's probably out there checking the dough's already type of thing so he'll come right in and work the scrape itself in the afternoon whereas in the morning he will scent check it and stuff like that okay Lysol I said about the height that my stance one of the biggest things in in my boot camps that I had with the comments about how low some of my stands are and as I said it depends on the situation I'll be honest with you I'm not afraid of heights but I with my bum arm I can't catch myself anymore I'm not physically the doctors told me I'm not supposed to hunt out of any stands that I can't climb with one hand so I've been hunting out of nothing but ladder stands since 2001 no problem whatsoever I but the height to the stand all right I would much prefer a low stand in a thick tree I mean brush it like a cedar for example a soft wood you know then a high stand and a telephone pole in other words I might that I try to Boone Crockett the year before last all right my feet and he was 15 yards my feet were not even 6 feet I mean I'm gonna say under five between five and a half and six feet I mean my buddy jumped I mean 60 something here till he jumped out of the stand when why I'm showing it to him you know but anyway my point is you you are much better off you know low and let me say this my my lowest stee same thing my brother says I wouldn't go tellin guys that well I want you to know seriously I want you to learn and then let me clarify my stands are not all 6-foot up you know I mean I got some I like I personally like about my feet at 12 feet but anyway my lowest one here goes it's 48 inches then they're with me on this all right I tested it it's a single little cedar tree that big around right on an old is an old rusted fence but it's not the you know no problem but is that there's a it's right on this fence line but it's in the right spot it's a big cottonwood behind it's down and that the deer funneled by it I went in and tested it I stood there two different days with a ghillie suit stood on the ground with right with my back against that little cedar tree and it was morning morning stand and here comes our members half a dozen and three deer and two and in a single or whatever but the deer all walked by I don't know 12 yards you know and I'm standing on the ground ghillie suit facemask I mean the boonie hat the gloves the whole works all right and those deer walk right by at 12 yards they'd get there and you know to turn their head and you know and it'd blow up and you know all ass right I mean three different groups of deer right just thinking it'd work but I took a ladder stand bear with me took a ladder stand I took the top section which my feet I measured it it's 48 inches high you know my feet are at 48 inches I stood on that whatever a week later there's the fact probably the same deer you know come here to come walking and they look and you know didn't pay any attention to me whatsoever the difference is the light sensitivity of light intensity they can when you're standing on the ground I don't care how camouflage you are you're a solid there's no light going in you you get four feet off of the ground and they can see daylight underneath your feet and if they can see daylight no sweat I mean it that it's night and day 100% difference and stuff you heard it here first but anyway my my point is and you can use the analogy how many guys you know you'll put a pop-up blind in a field and you know turkey should walk down the next morning they'll walk right by it dope you know you put a pop-up loin in a field the whitetails you know they they shy away from the area for weeks that's the type of to tell you you know they get used to it and stuff night and day difference but anyway the the height of the blind okay here's another one I again I thought everybody did this stuff a good tree and I mean a decent tree in a good spot and it's a single tree but it's but it just have branches going up here you need to add cover to it all right how you do it you put your ladder up or stand or whatever and then you you go to a tree six seven eight inches in diameter and you hinge cut here's the stand reason you hinge cut this one all right tilt it maneuver until you can kilt I use a handsaw because I can I mean you can use a chainsaw too but just don't cut it I try not to kill the tree anyway I'll I'll hinge cut the tree here like this and tilt it towards your stand like this so the crown is right there you do another one this way killed it this way the crown is right there another one over here killed it this way so it's like a teepee you got your stand and a tree in the middle with your ladder in it and you got three trees that are crowned all right in a big clump right around your stand perfect then you climb up in the ladder take your pruners and clip it out and stuff try not to kill the tree that you bend in but even if it does die don't worry about it because then you can bring in like you know cedar limbs or the next year and the skeleton of the that tree you cut is still gonna be there and you can add stuff to it right here's another thing I mean the same deal guys I've been doing this for years and I just thought everybody did this stuff but artificial Christmas trees alright if you need to add cover around your your stand right you can go on eBay you can buy of this seven footers eight footers or whatever they either come in two sections or three sections or whatever and they're twenty-five thirty-five bucks something like that you know you know and you take a Christmas tree and I use the zip ties you know and I'll I'll climb up the ladder and they'll be a branch going out there and I'll put a third of the tree there and a third of it over here and the third down by here you know it's it's artificial evergreens all around you type of thing alright that I mean you buy on ebay you can go i bottom it like auctions or yard sales or my I remember I bought three one time in a high school Minna raffle or whatever they cohere were raising money for the football team or whatever or you you can get them free it's after Christmas go to little County landfill in January and to get them artificial trees you know lay it don't don't get didn't have to worry about the lights in I do it anyway pick up your Christmas tree but let me say this I'm even better than the Christmas trees there those Garland's they call them you know garnet so those artificial and they come somewhere only an inch or two in diameter but the good ones are like four or five six inches and they're that big around of solid evergreens and they're phony evergreen with little wires and stuff and they're like 9 or 10 feet it come in different lengths different damnedest but they're 9 or 10 feet long right and they use them to wrap around the banisters and a railing and you know your porch deck or whatever type of thing this last year and we just go into a dump years but dummy this last year right after Christmas I happen to be going into Walmart for something and they were having their after christmas sales right and they had they were norm I find I can't don't hold me to the figures but they were normally like 5 bucks or something like that for a 9 foot length you know they had on sale for 50 cents I bought 52 boxes of them you know yeah hey you know and then I went and I told my buddy he went to a different Walmart and bought 40 more you know I mean again 50 cents time with whatever 52 you know you just pay paid but at 200 bucks for a ladder stand why not pay a little extra and sock yourself in there and you can just you can bend a wire out of the way so it's not in your way make yourself some shooting lanes oh when I think of that and I have to stand up for this that boon er I got the year before last all right he came down a doe came by I was in a cedar tree ghillie suit the whole works rate and it was a fenced corner right in front of me and there was a one single tree with smoky stuff on it right there and right in front of me right anyway a doe come word if two fences comes over to horizon and I knew it was over to Horizon but I and it's a different landowner but I used to manage the property so I knew it real well but it was over to her eyes and this doe comes up follows the corner defense and she goes running by ton tongue hanging out type of thing and it was it was the end of walk it was October you know but anyway tongue she goes this way like this so I'm in the stand and I got a shootin hole right here but then half of the deer that come over that Ridge turn and split and go right in front of me go down this side it's the lay of the land type of thing so it was I figured it was probably like 70/30 that he and I knew her tongue was hanging and I knew there's gonna be a buck coming so I stood up but my point is you know you got to think ahead what might happen so if I stood like this and figured he probably was gonna follow that doe my shot I had a shooting hole right here my shot was gonna be right there but if he took that trail this way my shot was gonna be like there so if I stood like this I can't torque this way as much so I took my the point of my boots and I pointed my toes this way so I could shoot that way or shoot that way either way and big difference because he came by the way he came over the hill he was growling I mean constant I can't say ever heard one do that and you could see he was upset she had lost him and it was 20 minutes after she came by here he comes growling and it he comes down and he hit that tree with the scrape and stuff and got it right up on his hind legs and he he affect the overhead rent he broke it off the tree and he you know threw it aside type of thing you know all the while he drops in here he comes and I think I say I was expecting him to come by this way you know it was like this and he got right there and he turned and what you know and I plugged them right there so you got you got to think about things that might happen oh here's another one this is kind of cool when I was guiding in Montana had a two clients one guy was from Idaho and the other guy was from Florida and both good hunters excellent hunters anyway the guy from Idaho shot this 6x5 paunch that didn't get it and stuff and it was a storm coming you know normally if we got you one will let it go to the next day well over the store we're supposed to get 810 inches of snow that night and it was already like I don't know an inch or an inch and a half on the ground so I get on the try put the two hunters on stand and I got came back and I got on the deers track wasn't any blood but I could track him and stuff anyway came up and the guy missed think I missed him another time and then you know he swung wide and anyway he's about the fourth time I'd like you know but this I came up this just a little slight grade I mean hardly any grade at all but it was slippery was snow on it and I was I was it was slipping and when I came up over the horizon it was my fault there he was laying right there 1012 yards you know with his ten on a crown as soon as I made eye contact boom you know he's out of there right he runs up and I'm you know so I go get the guys and I put him up ahead and all this stuff and I come back around and I cut in to try to cut the deer at the Bucks track again and he hadn't come through so I'll make another circuit and it was like a levee there with cattails and I've been walking along the levee I gotta tell you this I guess I'm one now I'm walking along the levee and I'm right-handed so I had my bow in my left hand right and I didn't have an arrow on a string cuz I was just trying to push the deer and I'm walking along like that and I look over in lot 10 yards from me here's the buckling and some cattails he's got his head or chin right on the ground watching me right and I knew just the minutes before as soon as I'm a dyke I mean like there's no way if I would have made eye contact he would have bailed out right anyway I take I don't look I look at him out of my corner of my eye I reached over and took an arrow out of the quiver and put it on and I just I all I did was slow my pace and I just slowed down took an arrow at it like this it's important if I would have turned this way and tried to shoot him he would have bail right so you turn the opposite direction so I'm looking like this and I went around this way and walk backwards pinned him right to the ground right and he said of the guy from Florida but the guy from the that shoot I'm originally I finished a balk anyway the guy from Idaho she was just static and stuff you know nice buck and everything and I some I was guiding him so I'm feel dressed in it and I look around the other guy in Florida's name was Wayne and ungai from Florida I said I said word Wayne go and the Richard the other guy he says he says all areas and here comes the guy from Florida coming back from where I just shot the buck you know and he he comes back and he says you really did that and I said what do you mean and he says I followed your tracks he said I could see where you're walking and you turned around you walk backwards and oh and I I just make this stuff up you know I mean you know you know we just make make it up as we go along you know here wait a minute let me stay here oh here's another you know give my brother credit for this one these little things that you never think about these babies when you get older all the mid age everybody needs the reading glasses and they come 125 power to two hundred or three hundred and seventy-five or something you know all right but my point is go to the dollar store when you when you're tracking a deer you buy yourself a de l'eau power 120 125 or whatever they the lowest power you can get when you when you're tracking a deer and looking for little specks of blood and you're down like this and it's trying to it's like us old guys trying to read the newspaper and you put these on night and day difference I mean any keep a pair a dollar store 125 power in your fanny pack night and day difference 100% improve you can see ten times better with those babies on then if you don't use them I got to tell you another one when I was when I was guided in Africa this one guy shot a warthog haunched it and the next day the guy the PA professional hunter he said the main tracker his name was chiefess black guy they're phenomenal an unbelievable try thought I was decent tracker these guys are unbelievable worried so he said kittens are gonna try to track that warthog that the guy shot yesterday says you want to go with him and yeah you know I looked I was guiding I wasn't hunting that too right then and I said yeah maybe I learned some type of things so then then the black guy he doesn't he doesn't speak English you know he grunt he run a lot you know but so anyway I go with them and you know and they'll they'll Bend like that they've stabilized her shake her in the back of her back and he'll go like this innards like this and they'll take a step you know like this and then they'll take a step and they'll see and that the pig wasn't bleeding it was like it was gastric juices with kind little Gasper yeah like a shiny clear liquid and he'd see it on the weeds and stuff and I could you know hit point to it and stuff like that well he's bent over and I'm behind him I'm behind him with my binoculars and I look out in front of him like 15 yards and I could see the light the sun's shining on a little you know a wet leaf out there and I'd tapped him on the shoulder and walk out there you know 15 yards and then you know we pointed at that uh the juice is on the grass and I'll hit the wounds you know you just draw it I've been thanked right so anyway it this is eight o'clock in the morning we started we tracked that hog till five o'clock in the afternoon and the black guy turns to me he says Pig starting to feed and I said yeah I knew that you know anyway that that next day the the guy the the professional hunter he says oh it ended up there's a guy shot the same warthog like a week later he was he was finds every which life that the thing but anyway the next day the professional hunter he says he says boy you really impressed tifus yesterday and I said how's that he says I don't know what you did he says but he says fat man really good tracker yeah no wait a minute all right well let's see oh here's another one I guarantee you I'd never hurt you know smokey you'll like this one I guarantee you've never heard there read about this before and as I've been doing this stuff for years and I just never told anybody about it I often hunt what you what you call raw almost wrong wins meaning I say I'm in a stand and our predominant wind comes from the southwest all right and on the new DVDs I put uh sky went to a spot showed it explained it you can understand that a lot easier all right all right so let me go through the scenario North is this way all right across the fence hundreds of yards away there's cultivated food I mean a corn or beans or what alpha or whatever food sources up that way there's a ridge it comes down there's a fence row right at the base of that Ridge all right there's a it comes across a fence going north-south it hits a corner the which is a pinch the deer follow this way on a southwest wind you're looking north the southwest wind like this they cross in that corner they'll walk across a flat go up on the ridge behind me and bed on the main ridge going east-west with the window wind it to turn around wind at their back looking down where the way they came from right my tree stands over here 15 yards right all right and again the north is this way the wind is going this way my wind is 15 yards over here so I'm hunting a parallel wind the winds going like this all right now here's the secret I'll take and you got to do this you set it up and and this is I don't do this all the time but I've done it a half dozen times and it works excellent absolutely excellent I'll come in and you can either bring in a ladder or climbing stick or climbing whatever you know but I want to get up and I'll pick a tree that big around I mean a good hefty straight tree with no with no branches on it you if you if you don't want to do remind me about the throwing the screwing step but anyway I go to the hardware store and you get those I don't know what they call them it's like a lag bolt with a round circle on the end in an eyelet on the end of it and they're about four inches long there two bucks or whatever right and I paint them black or brown or just you know this is you know six months Brooke prior anyway I'll bring in a ladder and I'll climb up the tree 25 feet maybe and I'll screw that baby in that with the eye thing right then I'll put a piece of paracord parachute cord through that and drop it down and I take a second one and screw it in three feet from the ground that with the eyelet type of thing and I run the parachute cord between the two eyes so it's just like a flagpole type of thing right all right then the secret okay I use a paperclip because I take it with me but I'll loop a paperclip on the parachute cord right and then I use ladies Tampax you know the little jobs with the strings on them perfect no you know don't get the powdery scent ones you know tell your wife what during your fanny-pack for you no but those little with those little jobs with the strings on them right I'll tie them to the paperclip then take you know you're throwing he Smokies you know dough and he push them down into that bottle of scent pull it out you know it permeate and you know and then just like a flagpole that baby you go right up there 25 feet all right the reason being an elevated set like that up 25 feet molecules just through gravity will the descent from the molecules you know what the scent will drift down to your your wind is going this way they'll slowly drift down type of thing you know yes some currents go up and swirl and go around stuff like that but all I'm saying is a scent dissipated from 25 feet up will carry ten times further than if you just put it on the ground type of thing so think of the scenario and all and I said but remind me if you don't want to put the the eyelets in you can take I've used a like a screw in an old screw entry step and tie it on the end of your paracord and there's a branch up there 20 feet throw it up over the branch and wiggle it and then you know the weight of the step will bring it down just feed it and it'll come down and tie it at the bottom some of it you don't have to put the things up there but anyway my point is think about what I just did alright my trees over there over there my scent is going this way the scent from the I call it a rag Pole because you can use a cotton rag also but anyway I'm saying the scent from that Tampax way up in the tree is going this way my sense going this way the deer is following a false sense of movement of he thinks he's walking in a face a head wind face when he comes across from the food source crosses that flat crosses the fence comes across like that and he said he hits the scent downstream scent of that deer doe in heat like that he turns and he follows his nose right up to it and the boogey man sitting right there 15 yards away you know I make it work slick and you've used that deer he doesn't have a clue you've used that deers false sense of security you know to himself type of thing whether they got here oh I was talking to same thing and I'll make this quick the weeds versus a sneeze a lot of guys I mean I remember I mean a deer sneezing sounds very much like a dog sneezing all right but I'm saying you need to know this because I remember one year I heard eight different bucks sneeze before I saw them type of thing it sounds like a dog sneezing you know you know but anyway what it is I got two theories on this I'm not really positive but in the fall and it's always like you know in October and stuff that's when you hear them and so forth but the deer if you got a I call it a sweet oak if you got an oak with good sweet acorns and the drip line from the tree the the acorns drop straight down at the deer right on and that leaves underneath that a tree are pulverized it's like I almost like a dust right and they're scrounging around in that you know dust and it's just like I smell and pepper and I think they inhale while they're picking up a you know an apron or whatever and you know they'll sneezed after that's one theory the other theory and it's I don't know which is accurate it's a botfly and I know some of you guys are and you taxidermists in here most taxes yeah most taxidermist have seen it where the client will bring in a buck and you don't feel like skinning at that night you know you hang it up but a hind legs and that you put a newspaper or cardboard underneath you come out the next morning and there's he's the larva crawling around in the blood I've done it myself that the thing anyway what the botfly is he's an interesting critter in his own right it's a he supposedly I don't know I research this stuff but I don't know what to believe but supposedly it's the fastest insect in the world he supposedly can fly 800 and some miles an hour how do they test this stuff but anyway you know you supposedly they break the sound barrier how come you don't hear little sonic booms going off you know but anyway he's also he has the ability to hover so what the deer is the host animal he'll go up to the deer the the botfly and hover the female will hover right in front of the deers face and shoot the eggs and on an inhalation the deer will inhale through their nose and the eggs will go up into the Atlantic's fanuc up in the back of the the the nasal passages and lodge there and they'll grow it is no harm at all to the the hope that a deer and right around that same time the end of October or summer in there the deer would get the larvae will fully mature and they're pretty they're pretty substantial they're like an inch and a half long larvae you know nice bloated be good fishing bait but whatever anyway the they they're crawling around up in the deers and it's make its ticklin and he'll sneeze to blow them out I got it on that video I got it several you know instant and you can see the Sun was down in the back and every time that iord sneeze you can see the big mist coming out anyway they're standing out they'll hit with their hind leg and you know it's in their nose and stuff like that you know but anyway then it doesn't hurt the gear so I think my point is when you hear that if you know what it is you're listening for it and you're able to detect if you hear that sneeze you better stand up and get ready because there's one coming I don't seem thing I don't know all the answers but I'll say this that that I've seen a much higher percentage of bucks sneezing than dose I you know I don't know what the answer is and stuff like that but it's it's it's very interesting and guys need to be aware of you know of that I'll tell you another thing us sneezing you know and a lot of people don't know this stuff you know but you can sneeze if you're in the woods I don't think if your rig if you do regular sneeze ah-choo right you know I don't think there's any big deal but you can sneeze perfectly quiet you know and a way to do it when it's when a human sneezes the noise is the air in your lungs expelling you know ah-choo like it's coming out of your lungs so if you can feel a sneeze coming on exhale is quick split-second take all exhale all the air out of your lungs you know there's no air in your lungs and you'll still stand I pinch my nose and you'll still sneeze but I've had deer feed acorns right there 10 yards away and I'll sneeze and your shoulders will go it's like that no sweat man I mean again you learned it here man anyway hold on we're covering this pretty good was there was something else I was going to tell you and I it seems like I forgot that to add an important one I don't know Oh work we're two hours anyway does anybody have any questions they want me to touch on or anything specifically and I'll again I I've been up for since four o'clock this morning and I you guys are all you know I said I caught a couple of your nodding off and stuff like that and I didn't make any funny or make a loud noise or whatever back there one more a couple of them I'm sorry oh I tested that over years ago I started I used to chew tobacco I could read but I started with leaf tobacco red man and I went to Copenhagen coat rude coppa Megan for 25 years or whatever and I used to carry a spit bottle and then I got tired of that so I started experimenting and I and don't hold me this has been 30-something years ago and I think I've spit both saliva and chewing tobacco on six species of ant a whitetail muley black bear Grizz moose elk you know type of thing never had I did what I did hit a black bear in the eye with some red man and he did some back flips you know but but normally I mean you spit tobacco on their shoulder and they'll lick it off no no fear whatsoever right so then I started experimenting with urine you know I have peed on like five different species you know the seriously no sweat no sweat right but anyway what I did how I tested it alright I come in to say you know come into a tree stand the deer we're going across like this I coming into a tree stand this way so I hadn't even been out there and I had one of those red ketchup bottles to squeeze you know you see a lot of the restaurant you know but anyway one of those little squeeze ketchup balls right I'd pee in it carry it up in the you know put a piece of cellophane over tough so you don't spill spill it in your fanny pack but I climb up in the tree now I've not even been out that way right and I'll take and I squeeze it as hard as I can and I'd squirt urine out there as far you know as far as it'll squirt I used when I was in third grade I used to be lippy with a school bus but I can't do it in half but anyway anyway squirt it out there as far as it'll go sorry but anyway far as it'll go and in every time that here comes some you know a two three deer walked by they'd walk right through that stream of urine not hesitant not break stride not stop and smell it don't pay any attention to it whatsoever then I do I do at the same tree but I'd do it differently I'd come in the same way and instead of squirting it out there I would run out there whatever 15 20 yards pee on the ground turn around run back every time as soon as I they hit my track they would go on red alert you know and spook and go back right I'm convinced that when a deer smells were you peed on the ground they're spooking from the glandular scent of your feet not from the aroma of the human excretions the big number two no I have not done the big number two on anything yet but but this is a this is a good scenario I was I was a learning situation I was hunting in Alabama and it was not an island but it was high high ground I had dad to take they took me in you know in a four-wheeler and then me hook knee high boots and stuff and walked in and I climbed up in a tree and I remember I came in in this way climbed up in a tree and in the deer the wind was coming across it was across when deer work I mean the winds going this way and the deer were coming this way anyway I climb up in a tree and I put a chew in and you know ten minutes later big number two knocking at the door right and I go man you know don't think about it maybe it'll go away ten minutes later he's pounding at that door right and I got to do something right and I quit climb down out of the tree and I'm not thinking straight because I'm worrying it's not going to clear the bill right so I'm I just run out this way and I should have gone this way but I run out this way but over 60 70 yards did my thing but to put the tissues on the ground white toilet tissue on the ground covered it with leaves come walking back climb up in a tree you know made it that thing right the next hour I had three single mature adult doze and again I could the wind blew the leaves off of the toilet tissue and I could see the white tissue laying over there type of thing and three doze walked directly downwind at that pile of manure never had note never broke stride never hesitated stop look smelled nothing until they cut my track as soon as they cut my track going out there all three of separate ones all three of them locked up went on red alert and blue and went back type of thing you know so I'm convinced that they are afraid of human glandular scent but not necessarily the aroma of excretion s-- I don't I mean I urinate out of the stand don't you know don't bat an eye type of thing and no problem whatsoever I've you know don't I mean if you you know P added a stand and a big buck bust yeah I don't write me a flame letter I'm just I'm just telling you what you know what works for me and stuff like that let me see here hmm I think we've got a lot of that covered but I usually end my talks with a humorous story and I've got a several of them here and over the years I mean I got a bunch of them and they're all true I mean I swear to God I mean these these are true but there's a couple of them and that the one is with the bear that I shot and let me tell you I mean I'll tell you two of them I'll cut them real short right back in the 90s what was what was that movie Hannibal Hector what it was made it huh yeah what was it okay whatever here that movie can yea whatever year that movie came out what was the name of the movie you remember yes elements of the Lamb right it was that year I was I was getting ready to go on a whitetail hunt I live in western Montana on the west side of the divide and in the fall the Bears getting the huckleberry if you have a good a mass big huckleberry crop they were kind of scattered everywhere if you have a bad year there's not all huckleberries or one little area and there's bear all over the place right so I was going bear hunting afternoon that afternoon and then I was gonna go leave and go to eastern Montana to go hunt whitetail right anyway as luck would have it this this young fella he he's a kid he did back then he was in high school anyway he calls me and you know how he how's it going you know he's high school kid you got a nice kid I probably shouldn't use this name but his initials there Mike Prescott but anyway Prescott he calls me and he says you know hey what's up you know and I says you know I'm going bear hunting this afternoon and I'm going you know over your way and stuff oh man you know and he lives eight hours east of me and there's no bear weren't where he lived there's no bear over in the Prairie and he says he says oh man I'd love to eat a bear you know he says I've never eaten bear meat and you know I'd love you know and I said well if I get one I'll bring it to you you know oh cool right as luck would have it I shoot this nice with 250 pound boar right now for those you I don't know you know most you know when you skin a bear you know you you know down up the stomach down the back legs and up here and take that you cut the wrists off and then you know cut the head off and it's like a bear rug like a thing but the remaining carcass looks very muscular it looks like a human looks like me when I'm naked right I mean look it looks like like a human being right so I skinned this bear though to hide in the freezer put the but that you know the tag on the meat and I threw it in the back of my rig and took off by midnight I was late now because I had to bear but I get the thing done so I head for eastern Montana I get to his house I don't remember if that night or next next day I guess it was but I get to his house go knock in a door and there's nobody home right so I go down to the garage the garage doors open you know and here in the garage I mean it was unlocked I open the garage door and here on the floor was a wooden pallet I went ah perfect I know Olli he'll be elevated in the Eric circulate underneath him and stuff so I latest bear carcass on the wooden pallet right now I got blood in my hands and I look over on the floor and it's a pile of rags laying on the floor and I pick up this this it was a white t-shirt and I'm wiping the blood off my hands and I thought you know if I put the t-shirt on that carcass if you know it's going to keep the flies out and everything it'll be you know it'd be good for it all right you know so I pull you know I rest when I pull this t-shirt on them right now my hands were all bloody again right so I go over in the pile and here's a pair of whitey tighties right so I wiped my hands and I something clicks in my brain you know so I pull the briefs on this hey he looked pretty cool right you know but he so he's laying there on the you know they like the dead guy right he's laying there on the it's like I shut the garage door and I went on hunting you know a week later I come back and I you know I stopped and said how'd you like that little president I dropped in he says hey man you're in deep trouble I said who me you know he says yeah and I said about what he says that there and I said what about it and he says I said you weren't home I put it on the pallets and stuff he says he and I didn't know that I thought he was at the store to movies or something you know here he is dad and his little buddy when antelope on for four days so too they come home from the Antelope trip and a bear carcass is spoiled which is nope I say at that time in Montana you didn't have to eat bear meat I was like thirty percent of them had trichinosis of bruselas it was a trophy animal he didn't have to eat the meat you know but anyway my point was you know I said I said to him you know the the fact that I left that was me I left the bear there and all this stuff and he says yeah my dad my dad got a little bit upset about it because I'm like my thing as penser me me because the the bear was soured and he told us to get rid of it now what he did so he and his buddy at night midnight go down the milk river comes through Glasgow Glasgow Montana because they'd been gone they didn't know the state or county or whoever was working on the bridge so they get he hold on three they throw this bear off the bridge right there's there's no splash and they shine the light in here that working on the bridge the workers that put a safety net to catch anybody that fell under the bridge and so the next morning you get it gets light and it was right near there the Indian Reservation right and the workers come in and they think it was at silence at a lamb bo same time they think it's a decapitated Indian you know the somebody killed some Indian cut his head off he said Mike he says he says man we had reservation police state police the sheriff's helicopters tracking dogs game and your your tag was on it you know they wanted to talk to me so I had to go in Fish and Game they had it you know - captain warden's office you know I'm the guy that shot the bear in the fruit of the looms you know and he goes he goes like this you know he doesn't want it easy so he takes me in his office and he says you really didn't do anything that we can find you for you know I can't write any kind of citations but I asked you please do not ever do that again you know okay and I left you know no sweat you know but anyway the old I got hated this one is it is one of my favorites - I don't know whatever five years I say I'm obviously accident-prone I've been treated by grids and charged by lions and bombing bears and warthog I mean I mean I wrote that book and it's all through stories since I wrote that book I fell off a cliff and busted my front tooth and I got I had a shoot two hogs a self-defense in one day you know and they charged me anyway I had to shoot my way out so anyway gene and I are in Texas hunting hogs and we were there for six weeks 25 guys had come in with hunt for a week and they'd go home and we're go to a different area and come back and it would blow him back and hunting hard but I mean light to dark for six weeks right it was the next to the last day of the sixth week it was an older guy he was 80 something from Wisconsin there was and I got he had and got anything yet and that I had some stand set up on water holes and stuff so I I took the guy and you know I offered to let him sit in one of my stands you know and he jumped right on it well he's that this next to the last night he shoots a big boar big 250 pound you know black boar type of thing and I were to hit it I don't know I think I couldn't tell you and I said well let's wait it's at this dark now yeah that's us waiting in the morning you know if you don't know where you hit it so next morning he and I and gene go in and I'm in the middle my brother's on the right behind me and this old guy is back behind me on the left and I'm tracking it and I look up and there's the boar he's laying on his side I thought he was dead he was laying flat on the ground and I just turned to the guy and to tell him you know there he is type of thing and I just turned like that and this arrow goes choo I mean it was safe he was off to the side but this arrow goes flying you know and he missed him and he shooting a recurve anyway he shoots he misses the arrow sticks on the ground the hog jumps up looks at the guy looks at gene and charges me right you know and there's this is a learning situation to learn anyway the things coming at me full bore no pun intended right anyways coming right to me I did pretty good on that one he was probably 18 20 feet and I shot and I hit right here and the arrow came out right you know on his arm test but the his momentum kept them coming now this is the where you learned if any seriously if anything like this ever happens to anybody the the best you can't get an arrow on the string fast enough because they're right on you throw your bow right in their face and they will fight with your bow for a couple seconds and give you two or three strides to get a lead on them type of thing right so anyway I shot the arrow went through I knew it was good but he threw the bow in his face and I turned to run and it was a little Mesquite the tree that big around and I eat up the tree you know I mean you know there's 70 something years old nuts you know but I could barely I you know fat guy can barely make it up the tree right well the hog he died right in fact when I came down a tree I almost stepped in my my dope by boat yep right but he's dead right now gene says oh man that would have made cool video you know I mean oh yeah right yeah when you do it again right so so anyway that was it we got him in stuff that was in the morning so that afternoon I go gene went to a pond of water hole five miles away is 42,000 acre ranch anyway and I went to one another water hole and I'm sneaking into it and there's a group of hogs at the waterhole so I catch the wind and stuff like that and I come around and I had a tree stand there but you know I couldn't get into it but I stalk am i coming out like this and I I picked a big it was a big dry sow black Sal type it then got up on its own you know nail dirt look perfect look great you know if she ran ran up a little hill and then flat on the top I gave it I remember I gave it like 20 minutes you know just to be sure I walk up there and there she is laying laying on her side and you know the same thing I thought it was dead but I all put an arrow on the string you know just to be sure put an arrow on the string and I'm walking up to it and I get I don't know little from here to the wall type of thing you know but like right there and all since she heard me and jumps up on her feet and looks and the other one did the same thing in the morning right before it charged it dropped its head right well this one did the same thing looked at me and drops her head like this and here she comes right and I quick I look around and there's no trees around till I got to say I got to take it like a man right you know it so I stand right there and I waited and I literally when I was trying to brain suit her and I literally she wasn't I know 12 feet from me when I shot but and I hit her a little low like right worthy the top of the nose and we're not right between the eyes but right on top of the nose but it knocked her off her feet you know and then she jumped back up and I threw the bow in her face and she started fighting with it you know and I turned and I tried to run I didn't make it two steps tripped over my own feet and I landed right flat in a big bed of prickly pear cactus and I mean thousands and thousands of cactus thorns in me right and she's right on me you know she confetti she threw the bow at me and I threw it back you know here you take it again you know but it was interesting but I was kicking her in the face and stuff you know trying to you know and my arm really hurt and all this stuff anyway finally and it was interesting because when I was on the ground she was dominant and I was subordinate then and then finally she started to back up and I thought she was gonna she had my bow and I thought she was leaving and I thought maybe she's gonna get a running start you know so I reached down and I took my bow away from her and quick put an arrow on and I shot her and finished her right I mean I got literally thousands of thorns in my arm and my back and my butt my legs and all this stuff right so I called you it was again the last hour of the last day of six weeks and I called my brother east live miles away and I called him I got one bar in the cell phone and I hit you know what do you want you know you know what do you want I says hey you know I could believe this but I got charged again and I said I had to you know shoot my way out and kill him in hand-to-hand combat and I said I'm hurt I said come get me type of thing and he's just silence and he says he says what do you mean you're hurt and I says I don't know my I think my arms busted I don't know but anyway he says he said are you bleeding then I said no I'm not bleeding but I think my arms busted and he said if you ain't bleeding you ain't need and cowboy up I'll be there after dark you know he wants to hunt the last hour of prime time you know well I got upset with him and ended up you know I hung up on him and then well it gets so that he finally fight ten minutes later he calls me now right I'll come and get you you know he says but don't forget to pull that ladder at the pond you know you know and sure enough I get a busted arm right anyway I ended up he comes he gets me and we're we it was like 14 hour drive home we're driving home and my wife Susan was back east visit and her sister and I've been sleep six weeks I've been sleeping on cots and laying on the ground and you know I was really looking forward now Jean he would pull the thorns out of my legs and out of my shoulder but he would not pull them all out of my buttocks right so I ride home and it was they kept breaking off you know and you know so they're rated to surface I'm looking forward to getting a good night's sleep my own bed right and I get home and I go to bed and the sheet those little and those little fiber rule and the big ones would come out but those little fiber ones that broke off with tickling I mean it hurt like hell you know you know I mean pain type of thing country boy will survive right so I get up that silver duct tape I duct tape my ass slept like a baby man you know anyway we got a we got to wrap this up it's you know 2 2 hours and 20 minutes so I hope you got your money's worth I know thank you I know most here are gonna be leaving in the morning we're gonna stay for a while so if you have any questions or want the videos or whatever swing by will be we're in this the tent over there type of thing and we'll see you either tomorrow or next year whenever thank you [Music] [Music] [Music]

Channel: The Push Archery

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Keywords: barry wensel, gene wensel, brothers of the bow, primal dreams, traditional archery, archery, vintage archery, vintage bowhunting, recurve, longbow, how to shoot a recurve, how to shoot a longbow, bow and arrow, the wensel brothers, the push archery, south cox, fred eichler, traditional bowhunting

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Length: 123min 5sec (7385 seconds)

Published: Fri Aug 02 2019