- The Internet, a wonderful buffet of all of human knowledge, a veritable feast of theories and facts and a lot of bull crap. - Tons! - Especially when it comes
to car facts here at Donut. One site that comes up a lot
in our searches is Quora. It kind of started as a cool site where verified experts
would answer questions by just regular people, which to their credit
is a pretty cool idea. - To connect the lay people,
- That's right. - with the scientists to people like us. - I think it's pretty cool. Over the last couple of years,
they've kind of relaxed. The definition of expert. Quora is filled with people who act like experts, who are not experts. - I see. - And that's why you're here Jobe. I thought it'd be really fun to have Donut's resident mechanic
on here Jeff Jach Jobe. - Whatever you say, dog, - Zach Jobe here to read through some of the car advice on Quora. - Am in. - We're going to go through
a lot of questions chosen by riders on the Doughnut team. Neither Jobe or I know
what these questions are. - Walking blind. - And we're going to see what kind of madness exists
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answers on quora.com. - Prolific. - The best car to easily learn parallel parking Jobe is in a full-size pickup truck,
preferably old and bunged. That's the word she used. - Bunged! (laughing).
- Bunged. You're sitting high up enough and have an unobstructed view
of the car in back of you. Not bad advice. Okay.
- Yeah. - Furthermore, if any damage is done to the cars in the parking sequence it won't be yours and you won't care if it's
a beater truck (laughing). - Al right, I get what she's saying, it is nice to have that kind of like, that point of view where you're up high. - Yeah but she's saying to do this (giggling) by damaging
other people's cars. - Well she's got a good point. I mean, you know, you wear some knee pads when you go skating, right? - That is true. - You gotta be able to take some dings. - I think the best way to
learn how to parallel park, - Is just by doing it. - Just by doing it. Maybe even between some
trash cans you set up. - Yeah, in a controlled environment where you don't stand to
damage anyone's anything. I can't excuse the, if any damage is done. - And you just dip on out and
your big old bunged up truck. - Next question. - Why is my car making
noise when I start it and the noise goes away
after a few minutes? - Is that the whole question? - That's the question. - Well, so here is, I guess
my concern with Quora also, the question askers
gotta ask good questions. That was not a good question. - Cos like what kind of noise? - Right, what kind of noise does it make? - Here's the answer. There are many reasons
for noise immediately upon starting and shortly
after: valve train noise, it takes a while for
the lifters to pump up and provide the damping. - So what he means there is to for hydraulic lifters to
fill with oil, you know, they are basically
filled with oil pressure and that is what takes up the gap between your camshaft lobe. - Yeah.
- And... - But that should be pretty immediate right?
- Pretty instant. Now, if car has been sitting for awhile, that can happen.
- Okay. Timing chain rattle, same thing
for timing chain adjuster. Misadjusted belts. Oil related usually
associated with too infrequent of oil and filter changes
or improper oil used. - Well, so I think he's
on the right track. Like he's definitely
listing some possibility. - Some pollution control devices are noisy until temperature is right. - I mean, that's super vague. [Nolan laughing} So it's like, yeah, he's probably right. - Normal for some cars is an
option or all of the above. - Yeah. I mean, okay, so to this expert's defense, he did list a lot of real possibilities. And especially with
that question to go on, Hey my car makes noise
and then it doesn't. I don't know. I mean, the expert is trying his best - Question, How do I negotiate
at an auto dealership? Okay, So this guy says, you're
going to get a lot of expert opinions. - I like the accent. You're going to get a lot
of expert opinions on this from professional car
buyers who have strategies they've used, but I'm going
to share an unpopular opinion, Okay, here goes, - [Zach] My favorite kind. don't negotiate. (men laughing) - Go on. At first, this is going
to seem counterintuitive but here's my reasoning. The happiest car buyers Jobe are the ones that pay full price for the car they want. They've seen the value
of what they're getting. Don't begrudge the seller, a
fair and reasonable profit. And they walk away from
their buying experience. Knowing that the dealer is
going to keep treating them well for years to come." - This guy works in a
dealership, doesn't he? (both laughing) - When you negotiate and haggle for hours,
you come away feeling like you could have
gotten more of a discount. There was an acrimonious
vibe with the seller. Nice word usage I like that.
- Acrimonious. - With the seller and thinking
you're owed something more. Why! Why put yourself in a negative position at the beginning of your
ownership experience? - To spend less money? [Nolan laughing] - Every car deal we do, we state upfront with the customer what our stipulation (Zach's
voice drowns out Nolan's voice) - No he does work in a dealership. I knew it! That's bad advice. That's not even advice. That's this is agregious. - Here's a question. What are the basic things every car owner should
know about car maintenance? - God, again, crazy question. - It's a very broad question I will say. Here's the answer in
increasing order of difficulty. - Okay.
- Clean glass successfully, Is very starting out well. - Check tire pressure, tread depth, inspect for sidewall
damage or penetration. - You do wanna to check the penetration. - Check condition of seat belts. - (giggling) Yeah. (laughing) I mean, he's not wrong, but - How to fill washer systems and with what identify all dashboard warning lights, check oil and coolant levels. Top off coolant oil, locate battery and visually inspect it. You know, some new cars
hide their batteries under a bunch of plastic cladding. To perform a jump start. - Perform a jump start? Or just to know how to do it? - Yeah (laughs). - Because it (indistinct).
- Not just like, now you have done that,
do this to your car. - Jump start it. - After that some skill is called for. - I don't know. I don't even think we're really
getting to maintenance there apart from like inspecting your tires and I guess filling your
windshield washer fluid system. But as far as what to know
about maintaining a car, like I think you need to
know how to do an oil change. - Absolutely.
- How to rotate your tires, how to change your tire,
that kind of thing. But again, the question is insane. Like what should I, how
should I maintain a car? That's a big question. - Yeah. It's like, hey, how
do I take care of a kid? (baby crying) Here's the next question? How do I install a turbo? (Nolan laughing) - That's the whole thing question? - That's the question. Why are you going to Quora to ask this? - They've been through the
forums and they're like, well, well I don't think I
actually have to do all that. - Exactly. There are
so many other resources that can answer this
so much better than... - Let me see what Bob on Quora says. - Forums are the because
like you usually surrounded by the same people that
own your kind of car. - Yeah, you've already narrowed down what you're talking about. - Here is the answer. First, you need to check
that your engine spelled U-R, is capable enough to handle the turbo - [Zach] Hey.
- [Nolan] dot, dot dot. - You know what that is a good point, that's the first thing we did as far as turbo in the Miata. We talked about whether or not the internals were strong enough. And then we did some testing to see if the engine was healthy. - [Nolan] Step number one,
purchase a turbo from the market which is suitable for your vehicle Jobe. There are various turbos in the market with different RPM ie. 1000
1200, 1500, 1800, et cetera. - All right.
- Step number two, now pull out the exhaust from the cylinder and make modifications in the exhaust pipe so that turbo can be fit into it. - Okay. - That's the kind of answer
we're getting now (laughing). - (laughing) Okay. Step number three. Turbochargers basically
consists of two outlets. The outlet port which
drives fresh forced air into the air intake. And the second one is the waste gate which rejects the extra
air into the exhaust. Does this sound like an
expert to you (indistinct)? - Not so much. This guy doesn't know
what he's talking about. - I mean, he's got an approximation. He's close. But he's saying some weird stuff. Step number four, make
modifications in your turbo as well as your system
for inducing fresh air into the intake and rejecting extra fume from the turbo parentheses waste gate. - I don't know, men. (Nolan laughing) I also think we're getting pretty far away from the question. - Now comes the procedure
of cooling of turbo. Either connect engine's water pump, to pump water through the turbo or install a new water pump for turbo and couple it with flywheel. - Couple it with a flywheel? What! I mean in some ways, your water pump, is technically coupled to your flywheel through a very roundabout series. But no, that's just crazy talk. The final step. As soon as all this process is done set the camshaft timing record
only for better response. That's probably the own let
like its tuning basically. - I mean like, what he means
is ignition timing, I think. Yeah, that is one of the many
things that you need to do once you turbo a car, but good Lord. But from the question to the answer, this was a pretty bad one. Next question. What are some easy ways
to improve gas mileage? - Oh, there's a thing called a Fuel-shark. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. (both laughing) They're great. Bill answers. I always significantly exceed
published gas mileage ratings. My wife never does, and she
doesn't drive faster than I do. - All right Bill. I guess Bill is just built different. - All right Bill. - He then goes on to
write a massive response, which we do not have time to read in full. And his expertise is, rebuilt my first V8 engine when I was 17, which makes him an expert enough I guess. - I just have the feeling that Bill has probably been waiting months to answer this question. - So that's why he
unLoaded on it like that? - (chuckles) He unloaded. Yes, he did. - How much time? You know, I feel like if I
was an expert at something, I would probably be busy
doing that, (both laughing) rather than sitting all day
re writing these paragraphs on how to try to get a little
more MPGs out of your car. - Pretty amazing.
- I don't I know. - [Nolan] Next question. How long does it take to
replace a head gaske?t Answer, I can replace a head gasket on a lawnmower in 15 minutes. Well, you know what? I be vibing with whoever gave that answer, I can replace the head gasket
in a lawnmower in 15 minutes, but on a car it's going to take you way longer, depending on the car it might take you way, way longer. I detect a touch of sarcasm in the answer. (Nolan laughing)
And I liked that. - Question, what Is the best speed limit for driving over speed bumps? - I actually kind of liked this question. - Answer. There is no speed limit. Go ahead, try it at 90
miles per hour and see! - I mean, I kind of agree. All right.
So over by where I live, there are two really
crazy dips in the road. You know, the dips am talking about. - I know exactly what
you are talking about. - if you hit those suckers at about 45, you float right over them. You hit him at 20 and
it's like life altering. - Question, how to do a burnout in an automatic transmission car. (a lady laughing) Answer, put it in neutral floor the gas, when the engine hits red line, drop it into drive and off you go - The old neutral bomb. I mean, okay, that will kind of work, but it's not really gonna
get you what you want. What you want to do, okay, is just throw that sucker in drive or in first and just left
foot on the brake, okay, and then right foot
all the way on the gas. Just hit them both real hard and that'll do a burnout. But the neutral bomb thing, it'll make some noise from your tires but it might also leave
your transmission behind so. - Oh men. How do I fix my car muffler? (Nolan laughing) Mike (beep) answers. If you're asking how to fix this, then it's obviously above your pay grade to accomplish.
- Oh Mike getting all nasty. - In which case, going through
a prolonged explanation would be a waste of time. It appears to have
dropped rotated slightly and is stuck under the rear
apron trim of the bumper. - Did you even try to set it straight Jobe to see what would happen? And neither did you Jack up the car and take a look underneath. Both signs you lack the skills
- [Zach] Is a picture? - to fix it. - Looks to me maybe the
car has been lowered a bit. So you hit a speed bump or a driveway ramp or what
to get it, to look like this? You insolent fool. - Oh, I feel personally accosted. - That Information might be helpful in determining potential
severity of the damage. Nope for you my good man, quick trip to the local Midas or independent muffler
shop will be your best bet. If all it needs is a
simple hanger replacement then the cost shouldn't be significant. (Nolan spits)
It just depends on any subsequent damage
that may have occurred in the exhaust system. They won't know that until you put it on a lift and take a gander underneath
- (indistinct) gander. - 98 views I'm Mike (beep)
forty-five years of driving and fixing my cars my qualifications. - Coming in hot Mike. I bet this guy sits at
his computer all day trying to answer his expert questions. And they're just questions like this. - But okay, he says like, it's
obviously above your pa... it's above your pay grade and not worth a prolonged
explanation in which he goes into a prolonged explanation
of why this guy is an idiot. - Well, but it's more fun to be mean to somebody than
to solve their problems. - Mike just gets a little
glass of four roses, sits at his computer and just gets progressively
angry (indistinct). - Buckle up boys, I'm coming in hot. - And he's Got a few more answers that I think we should take a look at. - Question fired directly at Mike (beep). How do I fix my car which
is making knocking soyns. How do I fix my car which
is making knocking sounds in the engine area. Look, I'll be honest with you. - Thank God. - If you know absolutely
nothing about cars then you shouldn't be buying
an older vehicle, really. - Wow and that's all I italicized. - It is, so , you know, that's like: look if you don't have
the knowledge to tell what is going on with an older car then stay away from them. To answer your question: the
engine needs to be rebuilt. Yes, it will be pricey. How do you fix this car? You take it to someone
highly qualified to fix it. - Listen this... - Takes another sip of
four roses (Zach laughs). - Sets it down and
waits for next question? This guy reminds me of a
lot of older guys I know. I mean, he's not really wrong. He's just kind of a Dick. - I think Mike is kind of
like the perfect counter for people that are going to Quora to answer these questions. He's like, - Yeah they kind of need maybe a little bit of that Tough love. - He is being...It's tough Love. How do you check a gas regulator? Mike (beep) this is a very Curt answer. You don't, you get someone
qualified and pay them to do it. Do not be messing with your
gas regulator or otherwise - I guess, but like, come on men. - How do I check the transmission
temperature of a car? - Just touch it. - It's not something you can do easily. Most cars don't have a temperature gauge for the transmission fluid. - That is true. - My 2011 Subaru Forester has
an idiot light in the dash which you should have installed Jerk. That comes on when the
transmission fluid is too hot. And I suspected if your
vehicle does have some sort of indicator of ATF temps. This would be all you'd have, that doesn't mean you can't
measure ATF temperature just means you have to do a
little work to make it happen. Again, just unnecessarily
aggressive I feel. Mike is also a fashionista, okay? Are roshe runs still in style to style of shoe? - Okay. and his answer: Had to look them up . Yeah, I think they're still in style. They make a nice casual
sneaker that Pairs well with skinnies, joggers and leggings. The shoe has a sleek
low profile kook to it. And in my humble opinion, they are the best kind of kicks to pair up with a skinny Jean. I like at the beginning of this answer, he didn't know what they
were. (Nolan laughing) And then his answer he's
getting Jobe offers from Nike. (Nolan continues laughing) - But it doesn't the end there Jobe. On what planet does
pre-shredded jeans makes sense? Is this a case of people
with too much money imitating the poor? - That is definitely a 61 mechanic. - Mike ways in, it's just a style. It's a fashion trend and like everything to do
with style and fashion trends there are no explanations and making sense definitely falls outside
the realm of fashion trends. This guy knows everything.
- He is defending torn up jeans? I definitely thought
his position was gonna be negative on torn up jeans. This guy, I don't know, he's a little more open-minded than I think.
- This is amazing, What a dynamic guy. This is no longer Mike (beep). - Okay. - [Nolan] What is the best
performance car for the money? - Oh, this is for you. You can find a Dodge Neon SRT
that hasn't been hacked up. You'll have a car capable of competing with the Dodge Viper that
runs in the 14 second range in the quarter mile. The Dodge Caliber SRT is a sleeper capable of similar performance,
but will be somewhat slower and harder to find. The Chevrolet Cobalt Supercharge. This is made for you. Did you answer this? - No.
- Is this your whole work? The Chevrolet Cobalt
Supercharge is very quick but may suffer from
some top end performance because it's supercharged,
but with proper mods it too can run like a bat out of hell. - I love it. - They too are older and
getting harder to find. However, the SS model can
be found with few issues and retrofitted with either
a supercharger or turbo. And if you really wanna go fast a pick-up truck is also an option but only for straight line performance, but not top end because they have a light
rear-end that get you in a lot of trouble if you
don't know what you're doing but they really look
good when fixed up right but it's the torque you want. And more, oh my God, it most
(mumbles) (Nolan giggles). - All right, Okay, It sounds
honestly pretty sound advice. So the vague question, but all
those cards that they listed Like I pretty much, I think we've on this channel said that verbatim. - Who is this we? You may be have said the
SRT-4 Neons are sweet but I never seen that.
- The only thing I'd say is that the Caliber SRT is probably easier to find than the like a good SRT Neon just cos those things are hacked up to, - they are pretty beat up. - Great advice. Gonna wrap it up here
with this final question. How important is it to
know how to change a tire? Very direct question, very specific. - Before I go to all
the trouble of learning, let see even if i should. - Knowing in the first place. Answer from a man with a PhD M.S.C.B.S.C in physics. - I mean, that sounds impressive right? - I don't even know what
those associations are. From the university college in Dublin. He says, not important at all. Very few people outside of
garage have either the strength or the equipment (Zach laughing). However, swooping a wheel
is a different matter. - What? - Although the importance of even doing that is receding. The get you home kit,
usually a sticky gunk injected under pressure and
then pumped up electronically via the car's accessory socket tends to sort that out. So I guess he's talking about like a slime kit, where
you like pumped some gunk into the tire and that's
supposed to seal up. - He may have meant swapping a wheel. - Maybe that is what
he's trying to say there because he's saying then that the importance of even
doing that is receding. Maybe because of these, get you home kits, they just inject some junk in your tire. Which I don't recommend, Cause it really usually
doesn't work that well. Then when you do take it to the tire shop, the guys at the tire
shop are gonna hate you cos they have to clean out the inside of your wheel and tire and also changing the wheel and tire to the spare that's in
your car with the tools that came with the car is not very hard. - Its not very difficult. I would say it's very important to know how to change a tire. That PhD wasn't very
smart (Nolan giggles). - So overall, - I mean,
am not sure if my opinion on Quora as bastion for car advise has changed very much. - At the beginning of this I was ready to see some stupid answers, but really what I saw was
really stupid questions. - So maybe the lesson is, if
you're asking for advice online be more specific with what you're asking. - Be as specific as you can, describe the whole problem, described the noises it's making, the conditions it's happening under, what you've done so far. go to a more automotive specific website maybe a forum for your specific
car if you're having issues. - Facebook group as well, Facebook groups are good Jobe Thank you very much
for coming on this show. - Hey thanks for having me Nolan. Great to be part of the Wheelhouse. This is a different kind of
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Mike sounds like he got kicked out somewhere for giving to much unsolicited advice
https://youtu.be/83OQ9AqsYqU?t=298
That answer is r/askcarsales in a nutshell lol
That applies for most of /r/cars too.
shoutout to /r/wtfquora
Step 1: don’t.
Ay I just saw that video a couple minutes ago
Quora is a disaster I’m really shocked they are still surviving as a company.
Quora is full of shit anyway lol