Authentic Power with Gary Zukav & Linda Francis

welcome to new connection where you can tune in and grow I'm your host Vicki Thompson you may be familiar with new connection magazine for conscious living which has been enjoyed by readers in the Pacific Northwest for more than 17 years now we're excited to bring new connection to life in your home on new connection we welcome authors practitioners and visionaries to share new ideas for alternative health spirituality and personal growth today I'd like to welcome to new connection Gary Zhukov and Linda Francis who are the founders of the seat of the soul Institute through best-selling books and workshops this dynamic couple teaches people worldwide how to create authentic power learn how you can bring more joy into your life move into your full potential and give the gifts that you are born to share gary and linda it is so wonderful to have you on Thank You Vicki it's a real joy to be here so good to be with you and you bring such a beautiful loving energy in and I can really feel how much you work to create authentic power but just like anyone who starts out in a business you started out as a small-time author and you had a book seat of the soul and to your surprise it became a New York Times bestselling book and was on there for three years how did you start this journey oh I actually wrote a book before that called the dancing ruling masters which was about quantum physics and I'm a non physicist but I became fascinated with quantum physics after I was invited to a meeting of physicists at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and I asked all the physicists there to help me present physics and that's that's how I started writing and I loved it then in 1989 I wrote a book called the seat of the soul now that was a book that was very special to me and continues to be and it did pretty well a lot of people bought it and read it but around 98 or 2000 Oprah Winfrey and I started to do a series of shows and we did about one a month for about a year and a half and that just exploded the state of the soul of three million or six million people read it and it was one of the greatest joys that I have to be able to share about authentic power in this way I had no idea when I wrote this book that so many people would be interested in it but I do realize Vicki that it is not so much my ability as a writer or what was in the seat of the soul it was it was what was in the seat of the soul and it was also the resonance that millions of people now have with what was in the seat it is in the seat of the soul and that is the discovery that new human consciousness is being born and in a surprising way with surprising potential but the big news is we're in new territory now and it calls for awareness and it calls for responsibility and that's the message I feel that made the state of the soul so wonderfully wonderfully popular with Oprah and with so many readers so how are we each contributing to the change of the human consciousness the change isn't happening we don't have to make it happen this is an expansion of our perception beyond the limitations of the five senses we're starting to become aware of ourselves as more than bodies more than minds we have another sensory system intuition is part of it having a sense of your life is meaningful as part of it being able to know things about other people that your five senses couldn't tell you is part of it we don't have to develop that it is happening but it's bringing with it a new understanding of who we are why we are and what power is we used to think of power as the ability to manipulate and to control that doesn't work anymore it's now counterproductive and a new understanding of power is emerging with multi sensory perception that is the alignment of your personality with your soul and that means with the highest part of yourself that you can possibly reach for the part that one's harmony and cooperation and sharing and reverence for line now how you contribute to that is entirely a matter of your choice and that in fact is what Linda and I came to talk about so you talk about a multi-sensory human being how is that different from just our five senses and how we perceive the world physically when you have a hunch that you should have a certain guest and maybe you shouldn't have another that's multi-sensory perception when you look at someone who looks kind but you have a sense not to trust that person that's multi-sensory perception when you have a glimpse that your life has a meaning that your life is not random that's multi-sensory perception when you have an experience now and then of encountering someone even if it's a writer on the streetcar and in a moment in that moment there's a meaningful connection between you that you can understand but you know it it's real it's there that's multi-sensory perception when when I met you I I had some multi sensory perception some intuition about that there was some connection being made between us that I didn't understand and so I wanted to follow that and I also had other experiences when you were speaking at an event I had information I was getting information about you and I think that that's a really good example information about you opening your heart information about you being frightened to be in a relationship things like that that I was being given that I had no way of knowing and so I think that's a good example also a multi sensory perception it's a wonderful example yeah and when you receive something that's meaningful to you when it registers in some way it's for you to decide whether or not that is worth you're paying attention to or ignoring because you can see something that's multi-sensory for example and then decide to ignore it in like a dream it will fade away you might remember that you saw something or experienced something that was meaningful but you can't remember what it was or you can register it you can make a point of remembering it and thinking how can this help me what is this telling me how can I use this how can I use this to contribute to the world how can I use this to challenge my anger when I'm angry or how can I use this the next time I'm in a power struggle and I don't want to be relating that way to the person I'm in the struggle with and so what you contribute to the new human species is for you to decide you either now begin to grow spiritually which means create authentic power or you don't if you don't you don't get judged by the universe but you don't change and the frightened parts of your personality which means the parts that are angry jealous vengeful that feel superior that need to please all of those continue to do what they're doing you continue to encounter the painful consequences of them so it sounds like in creating authentic power these you offer workshops it's also a part of the books that you co-authored together and I think you were saying it for best-selling books that you've gone on to write and you've written together some authentic power what is it and how can we learn to create it and be more authentic in the world together well it's the authentic powers basically changing yourself rather than trying to change everyone else so if you have parts of you that are angry or jealous as Gary was talking about in my case I felt very inferior to people many people and even Gary when I met him so I really needed to change that in me so I could give my gift so I could do the things that I want to do in the world and that's that's a good example of that so what I did instead of letting those parts of me that felt inferior or that felt jealous control me anymore I became aware of them and I began to change them in me I began to challenge those parts of me that were doing that and it was it's really such an amazing way because before I would get jealous and blame the other person it was their fault because I was feeling that way or if I was feeling inferior I'd feel like a victim rather than changing myself my life continued along the same path so when I began to change myself everything began to change when I began to change parts of me that were in control of me because I wasn't aware so I began to really practice being aware of my emotions being aware of my thoughts being aware of my intuition knowing the difference between when I had a thought but had to do with fear and a thought that had came from my intuition or thought that came from a loving part of me so I began to change my life that way so in other words that's creating authentic power that's exactly what we teach about authentic power is the alignment of your personality with your soul and that's what your viewers saw on the screen now what was Linda but how was what Linda said related to aligning your personality with your soul in every way for example when a frightened part of your personality that's angry or jealous or vengeful or frightened or superior or inferior is active how can you create harmony how can you share from your heart how can you cooperate how can you Revere life instead of exploiting life trying to take from you can't so in order to align your personality with your soul you need to become aware of all of the parts of your personality you have to illuminate all of the rooms in your mansion and decide which ones you're going to completely redecorate and which ones are going to keep the way they are the frightened parts of your personality need redecorating they don't serve you any longer the loving parts of your personality the parts that are patient caring gentle considerate grateful these are the rooms to keep and to cultivate and to make better doing that is creating authentic power so when you set the intention to create authentic power every part of your personality that doesn't want to get angry that feels jealous that judges others that judges yourself I'm so stupid for example all of those come to the foreground of your consciousness for you to challenge and you challenge them by becoming familiar with them that's where emotional awareness interests a picture you use your body to see what they feel like so you can recognize them you recognize their thoughts you recognize their intentions after a while and then instead of doing what they would have you do and what you have done habitually do something else do something constructive in other words if you feel like withdrawing emotionally stay present consciously challenging that part of your personality while it hurts to feel it if you would habitually shout don't shout I know a lot about anger so it's up I know that it's a big step to feel so enraged that you can hardly trembling anyone I want to shout but instead I can control myself enough to stand there and tremble rather than say something in anger because I'm determined not to speak in anger that's a phase that I went through it's a phase that everyone goes through becoming familiar with frightened part of your personality that is painful in the moment and not doing what it wants to do consciously because you don't want to strengthen it how did that work for you because you talked about when you met Gary so it sounds like did you meet Gary when he was giving workshops and you were a participant yeah Gary Gary had written the dancing wooly masters which I read in 1979 I hadn't met Gary then but the book was really really important to me and especially when he was talking about what physicists were talking seeing that was so different like they were seeing that everything is interconnected well I knew that inside me but I'd never talked to anybody about it so it's wonderful to read that book and for many reasons and then when I read the seat of the soul in 89 I picked it up because I saw Gary's name on the book and I thought anything he writes I want to read it so I picked it up started reading it and it was so amazing to me because what was in the book was exactly what I knew or I knew inside was so for me but I didn't know I didn't know how to actually practice how to create authentic power I knew it was the right thing I knew I was multi-sensory I was beginning to learn more about that but I wanted to really create authentic power all the time because I was still pleasing I felt inferior and so when I met Gary I felt so inferior I didn't think I could even speak to him it was really difficult for me to do that because I thought oh he's written all these wonderful books and Who am I to even you know speak to him and he was at an event giving a talk when I first met him and I when I knew we were being connected as I spoke about earlier I chose to challenge that part of me that felt so inferior I decided I was I'm going to let it run my life anymore so I went forward to see if there was anything to do in this relationship and we decided we would create a spiritual partnership a partnership between equals for the purpose of spiritual growth and as you can see partnership between equals means I had to feel equal so I was really working on changing that for me and it was so amazing because we began to really live what was in the state of the soul began to practice it on a daily basis all the time changing myself rather than trying to manipulate in control Gary when I'm in a power struggle instead of blaming him saying I need to look at me and why this is going on in me so that I can be connected no matter what is happening so we kept working and working with that and then we wanted to share it we wanted to share with other people I wanted Gary to be able to share things and then I began and then I began to see that I had a gift to be able to support people in in experiences that would allow them to understand more about themselves to really create an authentic power in their life so again working together to do that so that's how our workshops began because we realized reading a book is fantastic it's wonderful but to actually experience and practice and deepen your practice with other people who are doing the same thing is is the very best that's why we do our workshops but we also do a three-year program we've been doing for about eight years now and it's been the most besides my theory cuz we're slowly besides my spiritual partnership with Gary that's that was amazing you know to begin to grow spiritually that way but this program of having people ongoingly working on their growth for a number of years in fact they didn't want to quit it three years so people keep coming on because it's so exciting to be able to work together a spiritual partners I've learned more than I could possibly imagine from having interactions with Gary and other people that are my spiritual partners so it sounds like in creating spiritual partnership there's the intimate partnership but then there's also our friendship that you create with others who you're co-creating with through the Bach solutely absolutely in fact it's um it's a really it's it's more than a friendship because often when people use the word friendship they really mean someone who's in agreement whoever's in agreement with me but I'm really talking about being able to say things that are difficult to say saying things so that you learn about yourself like if you see you're angry with your friend you look at yourself and see what's going on with you or if your friend has done something and you see something about them that could help them to grow then you can talk about things like that rather than just kind of pushing everything under the rug so a spiritual partnership you're right it's not just an intimate partnership between a man or woman two people it's more than that it I have lived spiritual partnerships with our children or our grandchildren and other people because it's so important you know to be able to grow together in authentic ways so if you are talking with a spiritual partner mm-hmm and you feel that you're saying something in love how do you know that you're speaking with love because sometimes we can feel that we're speaking in love but someone can have a totally different experience of what we're saying well that's when becoming aware of your own emotions is really important you notice what you're feeling inside your body as you're speaking and if you have frightened parts you know parts of your personality come up that really have a second agenda and that's why you're speaking to them you'll notice it in your body and maybe maybe you don't listen don't notice it in your body if you have a spiritual partner and they notice it they can bring it up to you which is so great because maybe you don't see it but you want to but you just it's so familiar to you to act like that you don't notice it so that's when a spiritual partnership is so helpful because if you're your spiritual partner can say you know I'm just wondering if there was a front part of your personality active when you were speaking okay boy your person your spiritual partner will tell you what he or she thanks.thanks maybe that's not necessarily what that person knows is happening in you but what they think might be happening in you and might be helpful for you to consider there's always a good way that you can tell whether they're saying something that might be helpful if you get irritated or annoyed or defensive or reactive that's a signal to you oh that you just heard something that could be helpful for you to look at that's a big truth it is anyone can experiment with it that's why Linda and I don't present anything as a dogma or a belief system that we say we want you to accept but only as a way of looking at the world that we've come to look at the world and we offer this way of looking at the world for you to experiment with take it as a hypothesis become a scientist of the soul a seeker of truth see if it works for you and if it does then use it be responsible for using it authentic power by the way is an experience of meaning fulfillment and the engagement in the present moment you lack for nothing you know that you're alive for a reason you know what you're doing has to do with that reason you are fulfilled and fulfilling that is the experience of authentic now many people have had it briefly transiently maybe writing a book like I have sometimes are caring for a sick friend or producing a television show and you know that you're an athlete would call in the zone our musician would call in the group or an artist would call working with the energy of the work but you know that you're doing what you should be doing there's no fear present that's authentic power and it can be created ongoing lately and that is our new evolutionary path and that is what we came on the show to say and that's exactly what we we share with people that's what we teach that's what we that's what our life is about so how do I get that how can I get authentic power and just have it be more of a natural part of my life rather than struggling with it you have to create it you have to create you can't meditate it or pray it or visualize it or affirm it into being all of those modalities are helpful if you use them to challenge a frightened part of your personality but the operative dynamic is always you intervening consciously in an otherwise unconscious process and changing the course of your life changing the consequences you create in the East that's called Karma becoming an artist in your life but practically you teach about we teach very simple tools to support people we give people guidelines and we also offer ongoing events and things on our website that support people but our workshops and events really support people for instance we have a five-day event in Portland actually at Mount Hood that we do every summer in July and that is such a powerful way to work with with everyone because we get to work together on our spiritual partnership teach the tools practice the tools deepen your spiritual spiritual growth and then go home and practice it continue practicing it with the guidelines that we offer and the simple tools it's so exciting and and ongoing relationships with those spiritual partners that you meet and that you create a or at your home that would be something simple that our viewers today to practice one simple tool of authentic power what could they do today I have well I would suggest this go to our website which is seat of the soul comm SAT like magnet which you sit on at the sou Elcom on the homepage there are spiritual partnership guidelines print them print them out and read them and if you resonate with them put them on your fridge on your mirror carry them in your purse carry em in your wallet and they have to do with commitment with courage with compassion with conscious communication in action they have to do with developing emotional awareness and making responsible choices knowing what your intention really is that was the question you asked earlier how do I know what my attention really is when I'm saying something by doing something so that would be a simple first step go to seat of the soul calm print the spiritual partnership guidelines read them and then begin to experiment with those that resonate with you if they all resonate with you experiment with all them read the books like the seat of the soul in the heart of the soul emotional awareness do the exercises and that one don't just read them you read the text and then as Linda suggested come to an event we have a wonderful event called the path to authentic power that she mentioned which is on Mount Hood every July is usually it is always in the last week or so of July that is a wonderful event I recommend that to everyone so these are steps you sometimes it's in different different locations where we give our workshop so you have to check on our schedule on our website but the thing is if you print they print out the guidelines what can happen is that they can check with our intuition and see what guideline they might want to work with that day to just see what is it that that would really support me right now in doing what I need to do next to deepen my spiritual growth here's a guideline one of the guidelines is take responsibility for my experiences no blaming who now think about that that's a challenge mm-hmm it's a challenge to a frightened part of your personality because most people feel that when they are experiencing a difficult experience or emotion something outside of them caused it and they try to change that person or situation so they won't feel that painful emotion any longer that is the pursuit of external power that's manipulation and control that's what doesn't work any longer if instead you look inside yourself and what has been triggered not at the trigger but at what has been triggered in you and become familiar with that and challenge it so that no one will be able to trigger it in the future that's creating authentic power and that is our future so it sounds like it takes courage to look within and to see if you're triggered then that you you have the power in the strength to look inside and to eliminate those rooms in your castle that might be kind of dark that you don't go there at all that often but just kind of grab you sometimes there was a green beret officer I was in Vietnam I led combat patrols and top-secret areas that took courage of one kind but not as much courage as stopping when I'm in a power struggle say with Linda and deciding not to do that anymore for me well the two of you together have just brought such wonderful energy here today and we're so thankful that you came and joined us on new connection and so thank you so much you're welcome so good to be with you Viki wonderful man you learn more about creating authentic power at our website at new connection journal com join us next time on new connection where you can tune in and grow

Channel: New Connexion

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Keywords: learning, culture, cosmic, spiritual resources, alternative lifestyles, conscious, green, personal growth, healing, health, spiritual, wellness, Success, authentic power

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Length: 27min 50sec (1670 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 21 2012