Ask Teepa Anything! June 3, 2020

[Music] [Music] [Music] hey folks we're glad you're here hopefully we'll be on Facebook in just a few seconds not that you care cuz you're here you don't need to be on Facebook but some people aren't here and they're gonna be on Facebook we think it's good to have everyone who is here if you want us to see you that's fine if you don't want to be seen you can stay invisible um if you have questions or things that will ask you to unmute when you ask your question Cory only carry Cory is the other person who runs webinars Carey will go over the rules of the road there just so we have everybody on the same page and there's hey Maureen so will sort of be checking in with folks as we get started and if you have questions this is very soon is when you get to ask questions if you want to my job is to try to figure out what it is you're asking me about let's see if I can be helpful and the other folks on the on the screen here also try to be helpful that yeah that's their job too oh wow okay Laura how are you good I like when I recognize faces I hardly ever recognize names but I tend to do faces so I recognize there Stephanie I recognize her face too I do not recognize names hardly at all that's not helpful at all so I mean until I see your face I don't know that I know you and then suddenly it's like oh I've met you before oh there's Brenda I know her I do know Brenda burns I know that name cuz it's an unusual sort of EB name yeah cool all right Kari I'm gonna start to go live on Facebook so that people as attendees but you'll come over it in just a second okay hey Kelly how are you good oh she's out getting some exercise very nice Kelly very nice I know Stephanie it would be nice to meet you see you I see you on the screen frequently a lot of you guys I see in on the screen I never get to actually see you in real time Elizabeth cool like Old Home Week here today know quite a few starts and then there's some new faces that's always good to have some new people it's usually too early for me I know yeah usually way or late for you yeah yeah 7:00 p.m. what is that your time 9 o'clock in the morning yeah so when we do the 3 P 3 p.m. one smooth at sway that's like the 5:30 thing for some people all right are we doing their web webinar host we should on Facebook yep I'm on Facebook oh all right there we go all right so I'm gonna turn it over to you guys cuz I'm not driving I just answer questions that's my job all right we have a question from Australia last that came in just after last se Ben okay how do you deal with a 79 year old male we may need to have everybody new unless you're actively asking a question or making a comment so you don't get feedback it sort of gets bad it's it's nasty when it does that there you go I think we got it cool okay 79 year old male with semantic variation okay role dementia now in amber Jim doesn't teach Maddie except social chitchat with others and demands on the answers yes or no I don't want all that other rubbish gotcha he gets aggressive if she doesn't get quiet he's never wrong okay okay so one question is how different is this from what he was like I mean yes the language is different and yes the intensity is different has he always liked being right has he always not enjoy a lot of conversation and questions has he always been different with the primary person that's trying to be of assistance has a deeper relationship versus people who are just chitchat II people like you meeting agreed on the street but you're not gonna spend any time talking with them or trying to build a relationship it's just sort of surface stuff my tape I that was my question oh good hey Elizabeth excellent all right tell me about his history yes he's been second marriage 20 years in between cave divers self-reliant very efficient done everything able to control so it's a controlling thing absolutely I think it's because he gets frustrated and so I just that he's and being hood yeah so semantic aphasia is a really nasty aphasia in that what it does is opposed to there's two kinds of aphasia there the the the the I can't I can't of the watch McCall pick it pick it you pick it you pick it so it's a stuttery kind of aphasia it's it's hard for the the the next sound the sound in sequence to be formed and to be produced and so when I tried to think of what I want to say I can't get the next sound of the next syllable of this word that fits in the sentence and so I'm frustrated in that I have a hard time putting out a thought that is formed with words it's not that I don't think it's that I can't get those words to come out now because chitchat is handled totally differently in a different part of the brain I can chitchat because there's no thought involved it's just a surface thing it's only when I'm trying to take data in which is often with semantic aphasia I so cannot figure out the meaning of sounds in sequence to get the content straight and so I can't when you give me all these the it's just just shut up I just want it to stop because I'm not able to take it in and make sense of sounds into words into thoughts and so if it's any deeper than a surface chitchat I can't do it I can't get it I can't give it and so keeping it simple with yes know this or that but the other piece that's perfect yeah exactly yeah it's the other piece that's really important Elizabeth is that he used to be a kid he's a cave he was a cave diver and cave divers do not speak most of the time they use visual cues and it's life and death and you communicate only the essentials and that's why I can't do this because he doesn't it means something else listen this yeah no perfect no that's that's it and I think is his comprehension but I just wanted to say ten years ago he had violin couple artists mmm I nearly died yep temporal lobe was damaged knowing nothing except his for his name yeah I'm still his wife and so nouns verbs missing so he'll say that bird with a thing on its head yeah no names but he can talk but he can't take it in yeah exactly so when he produces the words he has to work around so many missing words and so he has found a number of them at least over time because the damage initially was it wiped out his nouns his verbs he had adjectives which would allow him to describe but not to name and he could he could describe things but he couldn't say what to do and he couldn't say who's gonna do it or what he was talking about so it's like being trapped in a maze with no way to get anywhere other than with just bizarre words that it's on top of it it's like well what's on top of it well the thing that it is it's to the left and and so he has these bizarre sort of abilities but they don't fit but taking in data there is no way because he doesn't have any of the placement abilities to put in places and access them then so because you are the closest and you are the one that needs to provide data and information you are the most frustrating for him because he gets that he needs to connect and communicate with you but he can't do it and so that's why you get just yes or no just just or no and so the visuals of this or this with almost no words are gonna work so much better for him if you'll say I'm not a child don't treat me like a child he doesn't believe there's anything wrong with him he's cured he's healed and so I can't you know treat I can't say good boy that's well done I can't discuss things yep so I can't even say which choice but he lays everything out he has the evening lunch meal all laid out as a cave diver everything's prepared laid out six o'clock at night for 10:00 in the morning he's cuz if I move it he's and you know I yell dad don't dare touch it because I've forgotten where it is yeah so it's pretty low knees pretty hard because I can't get help I do have a social visitor he likes but I can't mention you forgot you don't know I can't move anything I can't touch anything so where are you getting social support for you because you know been silenced and so I mean this is where finding a group for you a support person if not a small group you need to be able to talk about the choices you're making and talk them through and process them through because you don't have his disease um and you do find value in working through things and finding a place in a person at least so you can say so this is what I'm thinking about doing what do you think about that you need the person to be able to say well so it sounds like you've thought of this and this how about this so you can you can get feedback and you can use your brain in a healthy way that's right quite difficult because we've moved a lot don't have any friends or family all interstate on in Australia um we were bush walkers solitary people I have worked in disability so I enjoy your videos in your shoes I get all the information I can so I really enjoy that but to talk to someone there's so much history that no one understands and the only FTD groups in Hobart two hours away I can't go there yeah and I could've gone now Simon's group but they were all talking about or papered my wall I've done this and it just wasn't it was all people I mean I'm 70 but I'm not old oh you know not yeah no you're not you know I I still look after my granddaughter and piggyback her their martial arts and stuff all my life yeah so I'm not in the dead zone like I have things I do myself exactly so it's hard it's hard and so I'm thinking actually if not an in-person support I'm thinking of actually a zoom support that you can do on your own time but also it's somebody who's smart about about this kind of dementia and I don't know that a group is the answer maybe just a one on one because as you said your lifestyles are such that you don't have I mean you have social stuff but then you have deep relationships and that which is that that is what you had with your husband before and you're missing it and you don't have to put it I mean you really do not have that talking it through thinking it through kind of stuff and I'm not even sure it's about um it's just about living I mean you have no place to have a deep conversation anymore yeah yeah and that is true really it's so hard because what you're doing for him is giving I mean you are his secure support but that's just really not my thing I've done that all my life I've been disability of being a pastor's wife I've always been helping even I'm the middle child my two sisters I'm always helping them my daughter has complex FTD she's moved back from America so I'm always supporting everyone else and there isn't really any one that sucks at my mom who's died a while ago but there really isn't that comforting support and because my husband doesn't recognize it okay and he doesn't he wants to be with me all the time I can't even go out to church or something like that yeah so it's tickled yeah it is for sure if you want one of the things you could at least try out is is check in with Carolyn with our group because we do consulting free consulting and at least it would give you a person to talk with a bit um yeah and and it gets dementia I mean and that's and you're an amazing person and what you do is pretty remarkable but that doesn't I feel that if I don't at least offer to give to offer some support that's not fair to you because carrying a really heavy load for a long time doesn't mean the load gets lighter it just means you get tired er yes one of our panelists aimsley reply I she's a speech language pathologist and also would recommend Elizabeth look into working with the speech pathologist in her area familiar with PPA is possible and ppm stands in this case for primary progressive aphasia you're pretty far out I'm wondering you know that's one of the challenges but one of the pluses now of kovat I will say is more telemedicine than has ever been the case before folks are opening up that but it's certainly worth an explore my best guess is he has adapted the way he's willing to adapt and he sounds like a bear tough I to try to offer alternatives to and it have to be that person trying something him not you because anything huge by I'm afraid because you're there all the time and he's reliant on you I wouldn't want to put you in the go-between position so my my doctor is pretty good we did get his license taken off him but a lot of anger and it's conspiracy theory against the government and stuff like that like I'm even talking to now I can't do it openly right but he did do the speech lessons when he first came out of hospital but she treats she's about eighteen treated him like he was fired and he wouldn't go back yeah so but he he's alcoholic he's got diabetes got congestive heart failure a whole lot of things so but he's stubborn and he looks after his meds he's you know he's years who's been I mean he's not he is he is definitely more the challenge is it being careful that you don't get put in the middle and that's really what I'm trying to be thoughtful about in any thought about getting any other support you've got a social person for him looking at maybe a rehab type person a speech person who's very knowledgeable but also is a bit older not somebody looking real young because he is one of those people that really is more respectful of age than he is gonna be abuse because you become an expert over time he deep you know deep draw divers as a rule would never really trust a young person to be in charge of a deep dive because they're a bit too impulsive they're a bit too a seat of their pants they're a bit too risk-taking and he sounds like he's something he's actually the exact opposite he's not a risk taker he's a cave tiger level for was to world records so he's tight self surviving a back-up plan to a back-up plan so thank you yeah I mean he's just that's not gonna be his cup of tea so I would I mean I want to just try to figure out how to support you not worry about him and I'm not only about that I think that's as far as he's willing to go and if you push harder he'll go further toward alcohol to try to manage his distress he he's used alcohol before to try to manage distress that's what he does I mean he numbs himself with with that with that drug that's how you get through things if things get really bad so I don't you know I'm just trying to figure out maybe there's a way to support you better yeah no I agree I'll try assuming and I'm exercise as I do here in Tasmania with a count of three covered so we're almost out of isolation the borders are closed we got two people in hospital on one in recovery so almost there everything's open again we can go walking again I can get out so good yeah good can be done it can congratulate that's great yes so we're nearly there but yeah we so thank you up and your programs thank you for you because you helped so much as well for me you're welcome well I'm glad you made it here and maybe maybe we can spend a little time talk and you know with Carolyn that would be great I think that would be excellent and I always watch the recordings afterwards even if I can't attend so thank you very much you're welcome for sure cool cheese thank you uh-huh okay um let's see we do have somebody who has a question but it looks like they may not have video or a microphone or they're having some problems connecting so I'll get the question started sure I'm here oh you heard okay go ahead Alexandre hey there lady how are you - I am good how are you doing I see the fan on oh I'm alive and kicking that's a good sign I had a question for you um a few times because my mother likes this right mean she wants to step outside so they have told me that you know for me to be careful because if anything happens Jerry falls on me so lately everything feels like it's falling on me and I'm just like okay I think I'm human or my robot as much as I try to help out as much as I try to do things it's like you know it's like a lot for one person it's a lot yeah I mean and that's one of our rules is you can't be 24/7 you are not a robot you're a human being so so your mom is sometimes breaking curfew if you will and trying to go outside even though absolutely not supposed to do that supposed to be sheltering at home and you're in an apartment if I remember right you and your mom apartment and she's going out of the apartment building it's not just she's leaving the apartment she's going out of the building is that right right and she knows how to go and come back but my biggest thing is I don't want anything to happen to her because everybody said it can fall on me you know I'm just so a couple of things right away is a MedicAlert bracelet that she could wear and you could wear you would want one as well which says I care for someone living with dementia if anything happens to me please make sure someone checks the apartment kind of thing so you have a MedicAlert bracelet which says I am a caregiver for somebody living with dementia here is a number to call if something were to happen to me and that's something you actually wear because what we don't tend to think about is if we're a primary provider for someone a support for someone and that someone is at this point in time at least secluded and not in contact with a whole bunch of other people if something were to happen when we are out and about there would be no one who would know what the story was going in and that's why a MedicAlert bracelet in the States at least is something they would always look at because it would list on their known allergies any medical conditions and so it's a well known identifier if your mom has that on and it says call your number if someone were to find her or locate her and she would go out cuz you live in a city you live in a in a city if they were to find that and they were to look at that it would put them in touch with you okay and so you would be able to then direct them and give them information and it's a MedicAlert and it's the kind of thing everybody should have one on if you have a medical condition and in this condition she has a condition where she occasion well sometimes at least decides that she doesn't need to be where she is she wants to go elsewhere and most times she can find her way back but we don't know giving her dimension her progression if that will be the case tomorrow or if it would be the case tonight if she got out because it's darker and it's less clear to her maybe about where to go and how to get there she'll think she knows and she'll get somewhere the question is can she get back okay and so it's a it's a safety net and it buys you a safety net and that's sort of one of the things that's important yeah and I need to have that yeah you do because you need to be able to be okay if you fall asleep she takes off that there is an opportunity to get her back the other thing to think about is up high on the exit door for the apartment to put a device that you can get you can get it from Lowe's or Home Depot or a hardware store that you can set it at night so that if the door opens it would alert you she's leaving a sensor yeah a sensor and then you can turn it off if you know you're gonna be around and about and she's in and that's you know but it's turned on so that if the door opens it will audio alert you that she has just left the premises and you can make a choice at that point what you're gonna do but at least you know she has just left okay I can do that because I know I know she gives you trouble when she decides he's gonna do it you don't want to fight with her I mean she's all she's gonna do is go out anyway or work overtop of you yeah exactly exactly my other question is I've had like her caregiver that she had today today was my day of craziness because her caregiver and I asked her yesterday what do you think about what's going on with my mother kicks her out mind you she's 19 years old and so she's like oh no I mean I'm in the air I don't I don't know nothing and then after that today looks like she talked to the home health agency and they said that they found somebody else for me who is more who's older okay but nobody told me nothing and then she didn't want to fully tell me anything either she said well I'll be so you know I talked to Jessica today and this is a situation this is how I feel I don't think it's gonna work out with me and I'm like will do I wasn't already in the process of talking to the whole situation but I said well can you at least stay until you you know work it out then I called the home health agency in the home health agency tells me well yeah we were to do oh we already worked it out nobody tells me nothing out they he's like from 10:00 to 12:00 on Friday she's gonna be there and she's gonna oversee and with them what she needs to do yet nobody tells me nothing I'm in communication with the case manager I mean complication with two case managers and nobody told me nothing okay well then mr. Gaeta telling me well if something happens to it falls on you oh yes okay yeah it sounds like you're getting a lot of mixed messages so I'm thinking Alexandra that's that kind of thing really isn't okay so setting some boundaries of that and getting some help just set some boundaries because that's that's like yeah we can't be switching people out or not switching people out but you're not keeping me up to date and I'm the one that's responsible for the care plan getting done and if I'm not knowing what's going on you're trading people out and you haven't actually told me that I'm getting a different aid in here from my mom um that seems a little odd um so it would seem like that something to set up before you know I would say it's worth having a conversation with one of our folks to see if you can figure out some guidelines some words to use to help them acknowledge the relationship they need to have with you rather than not having that relationship with you because it sounds as though there's you have a worker who's saying one thing the care coordinator who's doing something else and you're not in you're not really where you need to be to make sure and eyes are gonna go okay with your mom cookie right I know and these people are not as tough and I have to fight everybody including work because I'm like wait a minute nobody tells me nothing I'm like oh my god I'm the one dealing with everything so I was so mad today I was like I can't believe this I'm dealing with everything by myself and I did nothing yeah yeah so I think it's time to sort of let's set some guidelines up of how changes are gonna happen and if it's not working I'm calling you and saying okay this isn't working when can I expect someone different what's the game plan I need to know this ahead of time so I think talking with someone on our team to sort of help work through that and get your language comfortable because I I know it's hard you don't like being Authority you don't like being the authority to my girl let me tell you I you know I've had to confront everything today I was mad and I'm like you know everybody's so mad about this stuff that happened but I'm like and everybody's yelling at me and insulting me and I'm thinking wait a minute I go through more stuff than everybody else I'm not insulting you I'm not trying to insult anybody I actually I pay for these services that I'm just looking to get the service side I've paid for my mother is I'm supposed to get yeah I would say let's do some follow-up conversation with with one of our folks Alexandre would make the most sense okay please thank you you're welcome I appreciate it you're welcome take a deep breath there you go and who the medic alert bracelet I do think that I will yeah good thank you so Gary what you got well tbh I gotta sign the next one okay Rachel go for it um this is from Liz tonight and I wonder it Liz would you like to ask your question about your mom I would hi hey Lizzy how are you I am good how are you doing I'm great I'm really getting a lot out of this this is my first time and even though the situations are different I can see I'm taking notes and I can see where maybe I can have these same things someday but what I have right now my mom is in memory care my dad is still alive but he was just unable to take care of her she has macular degeneration pause for just a second list so the group macular degeneration what happens is the center field of the eye becomes fragmented and it's like take both your hands if you want to simulate this a little bit what you do is you take both of your hands and you put them approximately put them together and put them about six inches in front of your face and look directly into your hands and you have to look directly into your hands and you can only look straight ahead you may not move your eyes around because every time you do that whatever you try to look at disappears and so you have to try to figure the world out by only using the edges of vision and bring them in closer because as macular degeneration gets worse it moves in closer and robs you of more of your field until all you have touch your nose with your hands is the very edges of vision and you the more you try to see the middle the less you can see the middle so all you can use is peripheral awareness that's what macular degeneration is and it is for people who have it they describe it as one of the most devastating changes in their life because you have to train yourself to look straight ahead when you want to notice something at the edge and you've got to force yourself not to look essentially it's a glass and a dilemma is my mom is 90 and as that started of all happening she chose not to learn anything you'll never see her try yeah to use peripheral vision yeah or anything she wasn't even willing to try to learn how to you know eat with a fork you know and that's just blind yeah so she has a little vision because you know the caregivers will say well I'm getting ready to you know send her Fork and she'll open her mouth at the same time so she is seeing you know yeah you know she knows she's at the table or what have you my real question is so so she in memory care you know before reason we've never had you know a diagnosis of diamond dementia but she's 90 and and she has some form of it what is happening though is my dad used to go visit every single day and I was there on Sunday she does not had a visitor since that March 12 and we on the phone they are good about calling my dad every day letting him talk to her on they call my sister and me and my brother occasionally but what we're finding is she's going and I don't forgive me for not knowing proper terminology of dementia she is what I will call going downhill she's starting to mail rings up that my dad is cheating on her with an 18 year old and she lawyer to bust her out of there because dad just put her there and okay and so we're just trying to understand how we can better communicate with the what I'm going to call it kind of you know not my mom kind of she's with we're just trying to figure out a way to communicate better and make sure we remain calm and okay and to call her down if she's not calm or to just have a conversation okay so what's happening a good part of what's happening is if she has sort of classic Alzheimer's her sense of time has totally been destroyed and I know even if he's calling and talking every day in her mind it's forever since she never hardly ever hears from him and he's too busy for her now and her brain is trying to figure out how to make sense of her husband who used to be with her physically with her not being with her other than these phone calls now let's be honest in life when husbands start working late in making phone calls home what's a very common thing going on yeah they're having an affair and so a human brain that's really struggling to comprehend and cannot cannot hold on to the idea of a virus that lasts this long would possibly to keep people away I mean if you have a cold if you loved me enough you kiss me even though I have a cold I mean if somebody gets the flu you get flu you throw up and then you're done with it I mean for her when we for somebody with dementia this is beyond comprehension it's hard even with awareness and knowledge but with someone living with dementia this doesn't make any sense I mean why can't people come I mean that was this has been going on and the word people are starting to use is this goes on forever I mean this has been forever I haven't seen anybody in months and months in years no one comes anymore and it's really that sense of and the word I'll use is pretty extreme it's abandonment I've been a ban by my family I'd been abandoned by people who care and and it's easier for my brain to view it in terms of my husband is cheating on me versus there's a world pandemic that is preventing him from spending time with me and I really miss him I mean what she's saying is I really really miss him and I love him and I feel like he doesn't love me anymore all right and so one of the things and that's what that story is about he's after me and he's going out with an 18 year old you know the last time I heard you know that's not that common but in her mind she's not that old either um so one of the things to say and do is when he does things with her how well does she follow a conversation now Liz like no reason it if you know it just varies if we're having one of the what I'll call the bad days with the made-up stuff in this I just got here and I got to get out I got to go home then we've gotten all these things but I can sit and talk to her I do talk to her about the virus every single time I explain the number of things that are closed you can't go to school you can't go to church you you know I explained that and she does an interstate she goes I've never heard of such a thing as a Momo you've never had such a thing and so here's a really hard thing Liz are you ready yeah I'm gonna ask you to stop doing that okay okay I'm here and the reason I'm gonna stop and haven't you do it if it hadn't worked yet and you've been at it how long well over two months yeah so guess what I'm not being ugly I'm just trying to be honest which is just basically you beat your head against a wall yeah she does all she thinks is she sided with your dad and and you don't but she does understand because she she understands the virus is comenting us for visiting but again that's the end of it so when is it going to end and well and then he's cheating on me and then her brain says no he's cheating on me because the virus makes sense for 10 minutes and when he's cheating on me makes sense for the rest of the day right and she doesn't do that a lot it's just we're see you're not hearing it you're not hearing about it as often issue Ali yeah well that could be very true yeah so what we're gonna do is we're gonna try something different okay okay and so the different thing we're gonna try you beat your mom and I'll be you okay hey mom hi honey Hey it's so good to hear your voice yeah yeah good to hear you too I wish I was with you it is so hard not to be there with you right this minute yeah oh hey mom yeah listen I want to tell you something okay I was in a flower shop today and I smelled something that so reminded me of when I was little do you remember the lilacs we used to have yes I smelled lilacs and it just took me way back and I thought of you do I remember in the yard we had that lilac bush yeah do you remember it was pretty do you remember who planted that was that your dad or your granddad that was dad dad oh wow yeah so what am I going back to you're going back to things from a long time ago long time ago yeah yeah yeah good yeah yeah we know that we we've tried we need to do more we need it so how did I start the conversation well you were just saying you missed me it's not yeah I really missed you oh hey mom yeah now this is a redirect redress redirect and so it's oh hey mom transition we're not going to transition into conversation I don't want to go to okay and if she'll come with me I don't need to go down that sad lonely road of you know if she doesn't bring it up I'm not bringing it up but what I will do is go to and what what kind of memory did I go to well happy one of the what's really one Nelly olfactory I don't know to a visual memory cuz given her vision loss yeah and I went to a I went to olfactory memory I went I'll go to a taste memory to a powerful sensory memory that's positive that's old that involves somehow family loving her right you want to go back to old stories of positive relationships of love of commitment of her love of her parents whatever you know that would be a potential positive trigger your childhood the smells of cookies at a holiday mm-hmm things that have powerful deep emotional you know one of my favorite is when we used to make cookies at Christmas or whatever it is um go to those places and now you bring up and you be her when she's talking about dad go ahead and bring up the dad thing oh well your dad the other day this girl came in the store and she was about 18 that's who your dad is dating and she's trying to steal all of our money when on Wow mom so you were thinking that there was a young girl that came in and she was after Dad and the money gosh she was that who is dating this who he's doing yeah and she's gonna get oh my gosh mom so you thought the reason he wasn't seeing you is because he's dating somebody Oh mom I am so sorry I should have told you what he's not oh he's not dating anybody you were thinking he was dating somebody yeah that's really so you're worried about her taking money yeah that would be really scary yes so he hasn't been in a while to see you no he hasn't yeah and you're really missing him yes I miss him a lot do I need to I need to I need to talk to him we need to work on that that's not okay that he's not spending enough time with you I hate that for you mom well she knows that's not gonna work she knows there's I would she would know there was a virus I mean I'm not I'm not when fuller with that you know like at all that sounds like he could just you know he would really he would really like to be with you it's really killing him that he can't okay and he had yeah yeah my sister's doing better than that with that than I am that part yeah okay skilling him that he can't be there but what you don't want to do is argue with her about it rock your job yeah understand but you know what we want to do is validate you're afraid that what's happening is he's dating somebody young okay Wow I don't think that's what it is I think he just can't come and he's really missing you too that's what he said when I talked to him okay okay now when he is with her does he ever use music mom listens to music all day long although he used music they sit and listen to the music together what is there what is the song they meant to oh I don't know that Oh ask him okay and when he comes on line say I wanted to play this one just for you because I love you and I miss you so much okay see if you can get him to be a little more emotionally transparent yeah but he's 85 and he never was that was they did not I don't even think I ever saw them hold hands until we all had graduated from college and were old and they'd been alone together for a while yeah he is not big demonstrative she's how yeah how does he feel about her a cheese chews accusing him of cheating on her um again my dad is very closed not not closed off and we don't talk about those kind of things whether it's breaking his heart I don't think so but I don't know well ask whether or not they had a favorite song and asked whether or not he would play that okay I will do that the first song the first day the song they played at the wedding using some of that music just to try to establish a more positive connection okay because here's what happens is when they listen to the music together if she listens to music all all day long how is he actually there well I think they get him I think they can take my lap yeah they say like honestly but you know so is he there for her yeah that's my mom considers that right exactly yeah uh-huh yeah and so maybe having him does he read does he still read any stories or anything you know is there any kind of book that he would read out loud not to her does their they just they don't even really they would talk maybe about current events in US and that's about it and then take a nap and that's about it so it's just a matter of her they can't literally physically be there we even have matching chairs inyoung the memory care and with her vision loss yeah yeah so yeah and when you're like with her vision loss it's really hard it's very hard it's very hard but know this is all very very good and we can start practicing this my brother and sister and I and I will share with my dad and Irish eight a lot thank you very much okay you're welcome Liz thanks for asking the question thank you I love this I'll I'll probably jump on more often because I'm getting stuff from other people so I'll let somebody else take their turn oh hey chief uh actually I'll make numerous yeah this had such a great question especially this time of kovat I wanted to alert folks you know this this level of complexity with the the cheating thing is so much more emotionally charged but even in the basic conversations of how do I talk to my mom when I can't visit her and she's upset every time I call her I'm gonna put in the chat a link to a YouTube that we have that might be helpful and I've also if you lose it if you can't copy it just not your thing it is also gonna be listed on this Facebook feed when it's uploaded on to and in the comments so I'll put it there as well on Facebook cool because we've actually done two of them Beth and Cory did some simulated roll place and so we actually have a couple of them now one was sort of a first call and one is a follow-up call to sort of give people some ideas of how to deal with that distress level when people are on phone and these are people who are fairly and fairly early in their dementia but still struggling with with the whole scenario of not visiting I mean and it's really starting to take its toll significantly here for folks who can't see people and can't be with them it's starting to show up so thanks Beth that's a good good idea or Rachel there's a question that Kant couple that came from Facebook and one of them was asking how someone can support a 69 year old lady with aphasia who was grieving her mother's death she died in March they know she's trying to talk about it but can't get the words she has caregivers around the clock and lives with her daughter and her family okay so she has really severe aphasia yes okay receptive and expressive or now receptive means getting data in expressive means giving data out does she have both getting she has a hard time comprehending and she has a hard time producing language both or mostly expressing I know it's expressive and I don't know about the comprehension okay so one of the things we know is for 98% of everyone what happens is that Language Center on the left is deteriorating with dementia vocabulary is disappearing comprehension of language is disappearing the ability to produce formal language is disappearing but over on the right we have some preserved abilities expletives swear words extra racial slur cultural slur ugly words we have back and forth of conversation or of an argument which is widely even later in the disease people can argue with you even with limited words you can end up in an argument not meaning to then we have the rhythm of language which adds question marks and intonations and tone of voice and sounds so if I were to go that denotes not only sadness but also degree of sadness that's grieving and so I'm grieving and it's a sound production and it's grieving it's an incomplete grief because I'm not actually letting it come out and I you don't hear me I don't have the ability to articulate the loss I don't get to talk about her and what she meant to me and how I don't have that anymore I don't get to talk about what about her I really miss and what what about her was so special and I don't get to do those things when I don't have language what I do have is the back and forth rhythm and the intensity so the way I usually try to help is oh we also have music poetry prayer and count so one of the things I would ask is what were some of the important pieces of music for Mom and did they have any shared music did they have any shared hymns book of faith scripture or something from their book of faith that they would have that they had in common that holds value are there any prayers or or things along that line that might be important in the faith in the in the reliefs in that sharing in that grieving that would have been done at the funeral has anybody written a eulogy or talked about mom's passing and in that do we have any old pictures pictures of mom that we could show pictures when she was young when she was a young mother when this person and her mom were were a family as she grew older to allow her to show you with pictures what about her mom is important to allow the music to help her show this emotion so there are many ways to allow someone to release that that need to share about by using what remains so visual rhythm music book of faith if that is something that was important and has value those are ways by starting with some of those things and when the person goes oh oh oh that's that's her that's her that's the woman you love and you lost yeah this is really hard now the motion and the touch that I usually would use if I were doing it would be hand under hand and figure eight on the back if she'll tolerate it and if she'll accept the presence of another person deep hugging and breathing this is so hard not her not to have her here you love her so much it's so hard it's so hard not I have her here and I use it's almost a chanting and then people will very frequently go yeah and then a whole sentence will come out I miss her so much and it's released because we do the work that we need to do to get her to a place where she can do that letting go because for whose primary losses in language and that missing of another human that was important to them not being able to grieve the way we would grieve is a really hard thing to not get a chance to do it's really challenging so Rachel I don't know if I actually answered the question or whether I danced around it because I didn't intend to dance around it but I hope I didn't but I don't know for sure I don't know sure either but it's kind of what I got from it so maybe they can let us know get up with us if it wasn't okay if not let us know because we certainly can address it more individually if that person's need is different or their abilities is different speaking of which I'll go ahead good piggybacking on this one I'm wondering too if if we do have a resource on the I'm sorry's but I think there might be some relevance to some of that here that might be applicable not just to grief situations but also let's say someone who's aware of their diagnosis even if there may be that we're of diagnosis but there where something's up Howl's I'm sorry could connect with folks in moments of grief yeah go ahead baths work with that a little bit more so talking about this idea of connecting with someone whose language is changing I think that's kind of what tip is talking about and this one's a real touchy one we were talking about grief of a loved one but it can be grief for anything that someone loses and dementia so much of my role and my identity is lost and even if my language is changing how I can use those moments where tea was talked about in the past about reflection so if if teep is grieving the loss of let's say her independence her car or maybe even something she just can't name but it's she's just can be very agitated about it so maybe it doesn't come off even like grief how is it that I can use things I don't understand why I can't why I can't go see it I don't get it I'm using those hidden No and it's not this I didn't do I just don't see the point of the whole thing you don't even see the point do you know it's ridicu she's just yes it's ridiculous and you're part of it you thinking I'm part of it too yeah I am so sorry T but you are sorry this whole thing is sorry it is sorry if this never should be this way oh yeah why can't I go no oh you want to just go well I I don't want to be here I cannot be here no I am so sorry I don't understand why it's why I'm either yeah hey tiba yeah this never should have happened yeah I mean no you're no it's never I never did anything no you didn't nobody deserves this no I don't think so I mean did I no I don't think so at all well then what's going on this is hard yeah and I'm not liking it you're not liking it no I just I just don't know why atiba yeah you know what ya think I'm thinking we may be able to do right now it's nothing bad about it it's not best at all it's not best at all I'm thinking I'm thinking we gotta sing about this oh singing you singing does everything you hate singing which I do that don't you well you get you get it but I did yeah hey pause yeah so if I'm trying to change the tone and change the mood of someone because I know that they can't go home or they can't drive again or they can't get rid of this thing that they can't even name that's changed everything at least in that moment I may be able to find some connection and somebody to be with when everything else just sucks and sometimes that's the best we can do and to be honest although I'm complaining about singing within a few seconds I'll sing with her but she better pick something that's got an attitude to it oh I better be quick - yeah and so it will be something that allows me to show some attitude because I'm not ready to be sad yet I'm too still unhappy that everything isn't right and it's and it doesn't feel right and I can't let go up it doesn't feel right until I get to sing out about it's not fair it's not right it's this this is wrong and so you've got to think a little bit and this is where musical background can help you but you got to pick one that I might be familiar with but you know you can pick some things and this is where pulling together with some other folks who know music might come in handy yeah so you're talking like a March or a real fight song weird but yeah one that came to mind sort of as you were I was I was emoting was I'm gonna wash that man right out of my hair I'm gonna wash that man right out of my hair you know something that's um I'm in charge of something I'm gonna take a stand I'm gonna you know it's gotta be something where I have control because what I'm doing is I have no control and so the idea of giving me a sense of control and you know it's not gonna be Mary Poppins and sugar and spice and stuff like that it's gonna be something that's got a little add into it that I can sort of talk about in song what I can't get out in words so you know and it would be different for everybody but you know depending on your your age group and your exposure but you know I grew up with my mom and show too so for me just about every Broadway musical has drama in it that we could use to some extent and that's something I'm very familiar with and you know where we could pick something else but teach your children well or something like that I don't know but you know be thoughtful about using music as because it can be a powerful catharsis I mean it can really let get me to let go of the emotion that I'm having and then we can move to another emotion because that's the power of the wiring in the human brain and it is a pretty phenomenal wiring system if we do say so ourselves okay can we Cheryl had someone online on us sorry Cheryl had somebody in the consult that seemed to have a little connection troubles here but I kind of wanted to get her question answered so that she could get some feedback for her person Cheryl can you tell us a little bit about what is happening did Cheryl leave no she's there I don't eat oh there she is she's president hands-only okay I am got a lovely going on I understand sorry I was just talking to the person on the phone so um kiba if they're a 90-year dobbs their 90's no it's the person I'm talking about 97 year old gentleman living in long-term care has an asset nausea and he wouldn't have been this way before but right now gates a pod let me girl yeah I'll pause you a second the term Cheryl used an aside nausea inability to be aware of his changes he doesn't know that he's changed he thinks he's fine he thinks he's still okay he doesn't see any reason he has to be in this hellhole this is ridiculous he's fine he should be able to be home all he needs is somebody maybe doing something but it's not what they're doing here he shouldn't be kept prisoner that legit yeah and and it's right now he's all about all about the money all about his money and his daughter that is POA is trying to live he's not all about the money Chiba in hoarding the money he's all about the money and if I can't take it with me I'm gonna blow it it was spend it yeah so with the daughter trying to inform doubt that maybe he needs a little bit of help it's causing so a lot of anger and distress between dude up like the two daughters and and dad yeah so early in dementia it is not uncommon for either power of decision-making or power of funds spending to be a big deal because if somebody likes being in control they want to be in control in one of the ways you're in control is controlling funds and so that is often one of the hot ticket items like you're stealing my money you're trying to use no I'm not spending money that way I'll spend it how I want but the other side of the coin can be a desire to get rid of all the money because what's the point of this it's sort of like it's what might have been previously called a midlife crisis this is called the dementia crisis so what's the point if I'm goddamn it if I'm not gonna have life the way I want it then I'll spend it and go down with the ship so let's buy beers for everybody and let's go on a trip and let's give money away and and people who are not very mmm was an attorney cheaper ouch and so he knows sort of the rules of the road and is he one of the questions is how far into his disease is he could he still pass for a competency hearing that is a good question I'm feeling like he is diamond state for sure yeah and one of the challenges in the early state of dementia is there are days when people are perfectly clear sharp and and look what and I'm in that moment are quite able to make choices and decisions about what they value and what they want and what they think is important the problem is those days aren't consistent and so on the alternate days that doesn't work but in court a lawyer who has a lot of experience in court would know exactly how you're supposed to behave in court to get what you want and so he is not going to show himself as incompetent in a court of law that's where he's had the greatest degree of confidence and competence so it would be very unusual to see a previous a previous lawyer not be able to pull it together and pull off that I am able to manage my own funds and I yes I originally said I wanted my daughter to do it but I have changed my mind and be able to be heard by a court and then be able to take his funds unfortunately they make really bad choices with the funds and then not have funds to sustain afterward and be then dependent on very minimal funds that won't actually fund what he would what he would want for his life sadhana really hoping cheaper to have to have that relationship with that again to be able to talk to him again without the anger of the money topic all the time yeah so there are two daughters are they in on the same page working together or they are they having trouble with each other because that might it sounds like from the consults I had to get with with the two of them together that it they're on the same page together the one though is the primary in charge of assisting with money and stuff but they're both reaching out for like dad went to a restaurant and was given a forty dollar tip because he couldn't figure out the money card I'm very concerned yeah and he's independent enough he still wants to go do things on his own I'm a so he isn't he is in long-term care he is in long-term care but somehow he ended up in the restaurant talked to me about how that one came I believe with the daughter ooh okay so one of the things to think about is is they are setting themselves up in situations where dads want to dad wants to show off a little bit and he's not able to think things through and the last thing he wants is his daughters pointing it out or showing him up when they were younger and dad was a lawyer did they go out and eat well on occasion and did they enjoy those times out and did he enjoy those times out and I'm gonna bet the answer is yes and now they're acting like his parents rather than like his children and it's just they're trying so hard that they've switched places with him but he doesn't get that they've switched places so one of the things to think about is where they go and how they go to those places that it's going to make it difficult for him not to want to be dad when he takes the girls out to eat and then in conversation in chiba around the money the daughter's wandering she kind of tiptoes around saying dad you need help we discussed maybe that could you help me options and stuff and the I'm sorry's and stuff but her question is is should I start should I just since he's angry all the time already and the money is the problem should I put my foot down well what she might want to say is dad it feels like we really can't settle on this money you're mad at me about the money I was the one you thought originally at least should be the one to help with the money but now it doesn't feel like that's working for you and it feels like it ends up in a lot of arguments for us is that true dad are you thinking something else I know that's that sound it's very true to me out sounds true so I know we said maybe it should be I'm wondering whether you might do better with a financial advisor not me somebody not me somebody who knows money and that you trust and that could do this thing because when I'm trying to do it it is not working for you and it feels like we argue a lot about it and I thought I was doing what you wanted but it sure doesn't feel like it's working to me what if we tried somebody else not me because it just feels like this isn't a good option for us and I don't want anything to come between us because I want you to still have a relationship with me and I love you dad and this is really hard for me so rather than turn it over him and or put her foot down is to say maybe I'm not the right one to put you know to help you with this because we thought initially I would be maybe I'm not and maybe we need to identify somebody else so it's not a choice of not somebody but maybe it's not me and be willing to say maybe it's not me because it seems like it's causing a lot of arguments for us and I want you to still be okay with loving me and us to have a relationship and really propose whether or not you want somebody with a financial background to be the one to maybe hold the line with him rather than you do it so maybe you create a third party who says right now this is what our agreement you said you would have and this is how long we anticipate you'll live so this is how much you'd need per month and have somebody who can do it with less emotion but maybe just say I don't know whether I'm the right one in this role but it you know but we thought that maybe not who do you want to tell as financial power of attorney dad if not me because what the physician is saying is for right now he wants somebody he's really recommending that we do it with somebody um and if you don't want me is there someone you think we should get we should try a financial background because putting her foot down is very risky with a diamond who has his background and it's already angry and he's already angry yeah um and forty dollar tip yeah it's crappy but at the same time hey Dad could you do me a big favor I'm trying to figure out twenty percent is what you always said to tip right right that was twenty did you ever tip 25 percent dad or pretty much just 2015 what what was your percent fifteen to twenty pretty much twenty so when I do it like so if the bill at lunch and what was our bill at lunch was thirty seven dollars thirty some dollars so it lights say thirty five so it'd be 350 if it was 10 percent and times two so it's like seven dollars for thirty five dollars does that sound about right to you so I would tip somebody seven dollars for 35 is that right yeah yeah why have it Mozilla blow it well so you're thinking forty wow she wasn't that good was she I mean it took a while to get lunch I mean I understand maybe ten really you want to do 40 on her it just doesn't feel like she was really her service was that good oh all right well go to 15 yeah okay 15 I mean you know I mean whatever I mean it's what you want to do I just didn't think she was that great I mean I'm not being ugly or anything but I didn't think it was worth like a 120 percent tip a 50 percent tip she just seems so high did I ever say you're wrong no did I ever say it's not your money no did I ever argue about the money no you let me know that she was not worth it well I mean it's just you know you do what you want but it just didn't seem like it was that good of service because I'm gonna guarantee you that he has a history of knowing what good service looks like and he's doing it too what he's doing is he's doing it to get it his daughter because she says there's rules and he's saying try me and he's pushing the boundary and if she goes for it it's just gonna aggravate and she that's why she's already saying should I put my foot down she said should I be dad just like try it see what happens with dad his dad's still dad enough it's a really risky proposition to go to battle on it cuz I don't know that you would have him declared incompetent which means I mean you'd end up in a court of law if he says no I'll do my own money because it is an agreement you know a healthcare power of attorney and a fiscal power of attorney is an agreement I make that you make my decisions for me because I'm not able to since he's not acknowledging he's not able to the question would have to go before a court of law and unless he's so umpires impaired that a court of law would agree good luck because I mean I'm not being flip or honoré about it I'm just saying it's highly unlikely a court of law would identify his I'm impaired enough that she has the right to make choices for him at this point in time especially given his attorney background hey tip oh yeah we have about ten minutes left and we are hoping that maybe we can get through to questions kind of quick the for the end the one I have is from Jennifer D that is I hope will help a lot of people she wants to know how she can get her parents to accept her mom's diagnosis of dementia okay so we have we have a couple who has a daughter who's noticing and got I assume a workup has been done hi this is Jennifer oh hey Jennifer good I'm glad you're there super cool so tell me more so my mom was originally diagnosed with early stage dementia in January 2019 oh did she believe it did she believe did she ever believe it then she's never officially stay like I have dementia okay we had her doctor sent her for tests and make sure because herself like my mom my dad my survivors so I wanted to rule out my brain or anything else that may have been her memory so we had some that were ringing and they did like some scans and everything came back and said they didn't see any tumors no signs of anything else so she heard that I'm kind of ran with that yeah part of her results yeah and so was like oh they said they didn't find anything so that's kind of where she has like stayed got calm my father has been her caregiver they've been married for about 57 years I think yep so initially he was like her only caregiver um I just recently relocated back to my hometown to kind of give him some help uh-huh because every time we would call home he was just saying like everything's fine everything's fine we're fine we're fine now that I'm in the household I'm definitely regret uh-huh much more any of us were aware of so it has been very stressful because I've called it 19 and then also where we live has been a hot spot so we been sheltering in place yeah and like going anywhere out of the question as far as like how's the monotony of her day I came down I came to the home with the idea of taking her out of the house so I go to see her activities taking my father's to support groups or whatever and all of that kind of like not happening my father is also not talking about it okay with anyone really the best way my dad like his love language is decent service so he's always doing for others for him to tell people like my wife has this and then that's admitting that there's like something that can't fix alright ever so it's been very high like in the house and neither one of them really wanting to discuss that dementia is now a part of our family okay so here's here's what are the really hard things Jennifer is they're not ready to hear that word um so we might work on I'm wondering if mom is having some brain changes if she's having some changes in how she's thinking sometimes and how she's remembering things sometimes so really changing the language to moms having some brain changes and some changes in her brain okay because the word dementia is defeat for him if she has dementia I'm gonna lose her and when they've been married for 57 years Mike guess is if he loses her he loses one of the reasons he has to be alive right is that like they pretty much have grown up together yep maybe they got married when she wasn't seen and he was 21 and now it's like yep 77 and yes so many seem I think I just made it through cancer I mean she made it through cancer and both of them have made it through cancer and the thing about dementia is there's no out and to say mention means she'll die from this and he's not able to hear that right now at all okay and so letting go of that particular word is gonna be a real important thing I think she's really struggling with this kovat and all it's really hard her being in the house all the time so dad tell me does it seem like it's more than it was before cuz you know we've got all this stuff going on so maybe letting it be more about the kovat and the sheltering in place and not getting out right now than about her dementia because he's just not ready yet to let it be about that um but I do think you might benefit just like I was talking with our other our other person Elizabeth it sounds like you could use some additional support on how to deal with that language problem and you also have some other support there that is used in your life too I can hear it in the background yes so I'm it was like when my lease ended by myself so that's my great-niece in the background I hear so late nobody none of us really knew what was happening mouse sohow being here and I started having we have like a we started having zone calls because of Kovac 19 actual examples of what's happening it's gone from just memory loss also personality changes really affecting my father separate yeah he's not hurt lashing out it's like the changes that are happening that pass are seeing certain things that might be hurtful and she doesn't he does so I'm wondering whether or not you might if you're willing to get up with us with a with a consult and maybe even participate and we can work on that with in a Care Partner support series cuz I actually think you're doing to care situations one for your mom and one for your dad because for whatever reason right now your dad can't hear anything about that and so I think you're caring for two people who are dealing with brain change in a not really healthy way your dad doesn't have dementia but he's dealing with your mom's brain change very well and getting you some more support so that you can care for those two because you need two different game plans one for him and one for her which means you're trying to do to care management's at once cuz he can't he do things right Yeah right I definitely would appreciate that I have done some research because I doing my Master's project but I just finished my master's program a flowery tone was like how to mix the partner of a person who has been diagnosed with yeah now you're yeah Jennifer I think every one of us on here when it happens in her real family to your family it's like I had this until I didn't write suddenly it's like did that just come out of my mouth did I say that I know so much better than to say that what was I thinking I wasn't even drinking but boy oh boy that should never have sit come help but it's that moment where your brain doesn't connect your mouth and time and you're just like you want to say dad what part of mom has and you know it's not gonna work but you can't seem to get your mouth to shut up because it just gets so hard so I just think hooking you in with a few more of our support structures might help you help because you're actually doing two caring at once yeah if you don't mind tea but I'd love to share out about some of something I've been doing is a lot of outreach recently or positive approach [Music] what we've been doing is saying PAC knows these are hard and unprecedented the times and how care happens and we've gotten a new gift and that is a gift which could have been a detriment is that Tippa is not on the road right now so that has allowed her the time to work with the team to develop new ways of supporting not only in general living with Metro but things that are dealing with Cova 19 and there are very specific new ways we're offering of support many of which are free so Pete Eva has mentioned we do do free 30-minute consultation and then we do we do have a series of supporting consultations and they're very affordable if you decide you like that with a consultant like Cheryl or Shelley or any one of us mentors all trained by atiba we also have some a webinar series right now that's ongoing about kovat 19 next week on Tuesday and Wednesday go on our website it's specifically going to be dealing with living with people at certain gem States or in the progression of dementia how to deal with this Cove in 19 specifically as did I just say that as far as consultations go really exciting is Tifa is actually available herself for consultations right now which has not happened in a very long time so if you really want that then there are free webinars there are series there are YouTube clips we do 8 a.m. T book gets online live on Facebook and even if you don't get her on Facebook you can find it on YouTube later Tifa dress is just 10 minutes or so on something and then at 5 p.m. every single day the pack team we all get online a team of us get online and do content we're gonna start adding in interesting things like poets who write about dementia I work everyday at fives if you don't get us on Facebook it'll be on YouTube to me this is just personal the most exciting thing that is happening is a development of a dual connected Professional Care Partner skills session with also as an alternative choice Family Care Partner skill session which he spent two hours with tiba problem-solving you bring a challenge to the table and with t patent team you spend two hours problem solving that one thing you're challenged by and what we're finding is some people come once for the two hours and they're like oh oh I tried something I want to come back and share what happened how it went oh that went really well let me bring something else to the table or oh my gosh I learned something from somebody else I want to come back these are really exciting programs online these are all meant in this time to be new supportive ways so I think with this ask people anything is another platform that we share we have now expanded on many levels so if you have any questions here's the thing this week pack positive approach to care had an unprecedented happening in that our email server has basically been knocked out we are completely struggling it doesn't matter why there were some updates unexpected not on our part down a long chain of 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Channel: Teepa Snow's Positive Approach to Care

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Keywords: Dementia, alzheimers, FTD, Frontotemporal, caregiver, care, health, healthcare, support, Lewy Body, LBD, vascular, education, training, PLwD, MCI, Brain Health

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Length: 92min 46sec (5566 seconds)

Published: Mon Jun 08 2020