Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective

these guys do you think they were just good for this event or do you think that there's something a little bit untoward that's happened here personally i think that they were cheating like 400 did emilio just get back banned and he's gonna get three frags crazy guy fog and jason all dropping he'll get the fourth as well great work from forsaken of course [Music] [Music] professional cs go has been around since the beginning of the game players dedicate countless hours to learning improving and mastering the game which they were destined to play but you know what else has been around since the beginning of counter-strike cheating countless cheats over the years have come and gone to give players a competitive edge over their opponents when you mix the professional cs go scene with cheating you can start to uncover some truly interesting stories of player scandals some have been accused and risen above extremely blatant lock boys he's gotta go back stewie's on his own but look at the time look at the time there's seven seconds they're trying to build pyramids but there's no more play stewie [Applause] over time while others have sunk with it today we will uncover some of these stories and i'll give my opinion on them as a cs go cheater robin flusha ronquist started playing professional cs go a little bit after the game's initial release he was signed to fnatic in late 2013 and in that time managed to secure three major titles until he was benched by fnatic and later signed to cloud 9. flusha didn't last long on the c9 roster and after an extended period of inactivity moved back over to fnatic in early 2021 he bounced between a few teams yet again and is now playing for eyeballers a team he and jw revived after 14 years of inactivity at the peak of flesh's career he was one of the most notorious players in the csc ranking top 10 in the world for three consecutive years and winning three majors in the process people started noticing that flusha would hit insane shots that nobody had ever seen before because of these events he was nicknamed senorvak even fully embraced this persona by walking on stage at esl one cologne 2017 in a senior vac jersey he also said things like this would you ever get a knife i probably won't i don't want to lose money when i get back banned with all that being said flesh is a player with over 12 000 hours in cs go along with thousands of hours and other developments of the game i don't think flush is cheating personally i think he's just so good that our tiny brains can not comprehend his plays yeah of course bro of course do you feel like he is going to be that difference maker in terms of catapulting them more consistently at maybe places on top i think he definitely has the potential to be the difference maker i think everyone who's seen money play in the academy league everyone who's seen him stream or everyone who's been you know good enough to go in and watch one of his demos can see that his natural flair for the game is unheard of he's only 16 years of age and he's playing counter strike at a very high level but it travels into the site one on two from odyssey now it's sacrificial away [Applause] [Applause] had a very late start to the professional cs go scene starting off on a team called new balls in july 2019. modesty also played for s gaming for about a month before getting picked up by navi jr for a two week trial monastery joined the main roster of navi jr in early 2020 and played there until december of 2021 he was then picked up by g2 where he currently plays today although modesty is still considered a rookie in tier one counter-strike he has managed to shock the world with his amazing performances in the server being considered one of the best players in 2022 with a combination of his incredible mechanics and young age some have started to question the legitimacy of his plays to me personally there's only one modesty clip that i've questioned his 1v4 clutch against mibr one kill there might as well have been a triple and a lot of trouble he no scopes one of them he keeps going 10 seconds he fakes the ball spins around takes down woody and now he said the hunt running up close and personal he doesn't have the time for surely no he just give it something the thing i want you to focus on is the last kill notice how where modesty shoots is not where the enemy is in csgo cheats this is called backtrack basically you can shoot where the enemy was depending on how much time you put on the back track there's only one thing that blows this argument out of the water the game was being played online and higher ping can often cause something that looks like backtrack and besides can we really call somebody a cheater when they've spent more than 10 percent of their life on cs go he also found a smoke bug that had been in the game for years but nobody knew about before based on the small amount of evidence against modesty and the obvious dedication he has in the game i do not think that modesty is cheap now that we've looked at a few players i just want to remind you that if you like what you see consider subscribing to the channel and leaving a like on the video also if you want some alternative content from yours truly you can join as a channel member for only one dollar a month now that i'm done being a sellout i want to draw your attention to a few organizations with scandals of their own the first org we're going to be looking at is akuma akuma which was formerly known as wait for tag started operations after project x released their lineup on march 15 2021. three out of the five players on the project x roster moved over to akuma psycho sergey and sensei the fourth player in the lineup dem qq had played for project x in the past but left the team before it disbanded only to join his former teammates a month after kuma was created and finally the fifth player in the group jackie had played with dem qq on cult esports in early 2021 both dem qq and jackie were picked up by kuma on the same day to say all the cs go teams mentioned previously were irrelevant would be an understatement as none of them had even come close to reaching tier 1 cs go yet somehow okuma found themselves qualifying for epic cis league spring 2021 where they'd be facing off against some of the best teams in the world at the time they managed to climb the ranks of the tournament by beating some fairly unknown cs go teams and eventually found themselves in an impossible scenario on may 25th 2021 akuma was going to face the number two team in the world navi as the match started people were ready to see an absolute slaughter but i don't think this is what they expected [Music] after the navi match was over suspicion started to rise about akuma but they didn't slow down immediately they went on to smash vertice pro 2-0 before falling off the ladder and losing to gambit then vp again to close out the tournament despite the losses at the end of the competition akuma still managed to secure third place and a six thousand dollar prize evidence started stacking up against akuma and video started popping up showing proof of the team cheating i would like to go through some of my favorite clips that i think prove that they were cheating i also want to remind you that there was no proper anti-cheat in place for the event in a game against one win sergey finds himself in a 1v3 situation he's able to take down the first enemy cleanly but notice how he looks to the top right hand side of his screen it looks to me that he's checking his radar but why would you need to check your radar when you're the only player alive on your team furthermore why would you be looking at your radar when swinging an angle he does this exact thing two times in the clip moving on to the second clip psycho is up against electronic and perfecto on catwalk navi sets up for a run boost but it fails and electronic peeks through the smoke for a second long enough to get psycho's attention then falls back for cover in the smoke electronic jumps in the smoke and psycho's crosshair moves upward to match the jump this could be easily debunked very simply as there's a bug in the game which sometimes allows you to see an enemy through a smoke but we don't know what psycho saw on a screen so this clip remains a mystery this is the final clip i'll be looking at sensei is opting in the middle of a site when he looks up at his radar then adjusts his crosshair to kill shiro on stairs he then rotates to ct while again looking at his radar then seems to focus up on the game when hobbit starts getting close he checks his radar once again before missing a shot on inters sensei backs up and throws a flashbang and takes a look at his radar three times over since he pushes forward and is killed by inters 10 days after the event was over esic opened an investigation against akuma for alleged event integrity breaches esic was limited in their investigation because epic the event organizer is not a member of esic regardless of these limitations esic made a referral to valve which included evidence of possible betting fraud later more information came out that the project x ceo placed bets on games played by his team he also bet on an akuma cis rmr game based on the evidence presented i can say with 100 certainty that akuma was cheating during this tournament chaos esports club formerly known as digital chaos and chaos was originally created as a dota 2 team in august 2015. klcc made the switch over to counter-strike in may 2018 after signing the enoy roster over the next two years the chaos ec roster switched up quite a bit before ending up on the lineup that we're interested in the roster we'll be paying attention to is the june 2020 roster with vanity janji zepa leaf and mce who is their coach and a stand-in for steel at the time and if you're wondering yes it was that steel scandal started off when chaos ec went up against mibr at cs summit 6 which was an online event hosted by beyond the summit klcc ended up beating mibr 16-6 on overpass only for mibr to catch up on the second map winning 16-8 on dust2 it all came down to the third map inferno mibr was down 14-15 and they were able to clutch up and push the game into overtime however they couldn't hold down their opponents and chaos ec ended up winning the game 19-7 in ot2 consequentially winning the match it didn't take long for people to start making videos about how klcc was cheating in this match against mibr there are a lot of clips people use to accuse chaos you see of cheating so we're going to go through a few of them leaf kills the player on moto and flicks over to back sight seeming to lock onto fur who is arches backside is a pretty common spot for somebody to be holding so on the surface this makes sense when you break the scenario down however it starts to get a little confusing before first contact it was already a 4v4 meaning mibr most likely had a 2-2 split between each bomb site zeppa takes down the pit player trk and leaf kills the arch player taco eliminating those two players should mean that the site is clear leaf may have not realized this at the moment and acted out of pure instinct it was also a save round for mibr so stacking the site was also something to consider for leith although this does look suspicious i don't think there's enough evidence to say for sure that this was cheated in this clip leaf is spraying through monster when he seems to flick up to taco through the wall after flicking up he adjusts his crosshair back down to monster and continues to tap fire the majority of his mag away now this is a clip that i'm very split between the only defense i see for this clip is that leaf was just adjusting his mouse after pulling down from the spray and his mouse sensor was so close to his mouse pad that it registered it as a movement although leaf does play with a normal sensitivity i couldn't tell if that small amount of mouse movement would cause that much movement in game so i copied leaf settings in cs go and hopped into overpass to find out okay yeah i could definitely see that i don't know if you saw it right there but i sprayed down i'm off i want to readjust i come back up and when i'm back in place to where i would normally be i'm right about here so it's a possibility that he ran out of mouse pad and wanted to come back up and when he came back up off the spray he ended up up here but the movement was so clean and so quick that i i don't know man it's it's weird it's definitely weird but can i say that he's cheating i really don't think so on the same round as the previous clip we are again looking at leaf entry fragging onto b site he runs up and seems to lock onto fur through the wall eventually kills him then flicks over to the enemy heaven who is covered in a smoke personally this seems completely legit to me leaf gets the info on at least one in pit and positions his crosshair for that area he spots the shadow of fur and predicts where he is based on that shadow leaf then sees a flash come out of heaven and flicks over to see if trk would push through the heaven smoke trk doesn't and leaf turns to avoid the flash and looks back at heaven for the eventual push you may have realized by now that all these clips that i've shown you were done by the same person leaf the reason for that is the clips against other members of the team are just completely dumb and don't prove anything at all i'll show some of those to you now every single pistol equal round in this house because they lost a second i'm not going for the peaks it's two on one 200 iq smoke or is it pick on leaf and it's all demanded now a one versus three's got the opponent looking through all the evidence i've seen i have to say i do not believe that chaos ec was cheating during this match against mibr there are other matches with other weird clips so if you want to see a part 2 to this video let me know in the comment section down below joel emilio makos started playing professional counter-strike on august 17 2010 with the team called icsu also known as i can see you he made the switch over to global offensive in late 2012 joining a number of different lineups but only staying for a short period of time on each team in september of 2014 emilia joined team property joining a new group of faces once again we'll move right over to the interesting bit of emilio's story team property was playing in frag bite masters season 3 losing their opening match against fnatic 16-5 in the group stage of the event team property went on to beat epsilon in a best-of-three elimination match to keep themselves in the tournament then on october 9 2014 team property was going up against hellraisers in a decider match for position in the playoffs the match started off normally with team property getting an early 3-0 lead elrazer started to build a bit of steam winning a few rounds to tie up the game 4-4 before team property started to take off once again the score read 4-7 when the unthinkable happened live during an official match he's out in the russian world and it's just sniping did emilio just get back banned [Music] what team property ended up forfeiting the match subsequently letting hell raisers advance the playoffs of the tournament it's safe to say that everybody was quite confused when it came to this situation now you know what you know what makes me smile is that your kim who is the the tournament organizer he's gonna have to to look for his rule set and see do we have a rule to find out what happens if somebody gets back banned after two days frag bite masters came out with a statement explaining their ruling on emilio in team property they decided to disqualify team property from the tournament and ban emilio from all future tournaments hosted by frag bite masters emilio also was kicked from team property and banned from all valve sponsored events although emilia had hinted that his friend used his account and may have been cheating on it back in october of 2014 emilia later admitted in february of 2015 that he was using cheats and matchmaking he was also adamant about being completely clean during official matches stating that he cheated only in matchmaking emilio created a new steam account on october 12 2014 only three days after being backband and continues to play casual cs go today he did try to get back into professional cs go joining dream chasers in 2015 and playing with them until 2018 but never really achieved anything incredible during that time sometime after the match against hellraisers emilio's backband got lifted but the activity on the account has stood still since the day of the ban this is an interesting case and end result an interesting conclusion there's no doubt that amelia in one way or another is a cheater but i do not think emilio has ever cheated in an official cs go match curiosity can get the best of us and anyone can dive into the cs go cheating scene even professional cs go players now i know what you're probably thinking isn't it already proven that forsaken cheated well to answer your question yes he was definitely cheating during this event but it's still one of the most famous stories of cheating and professional cs go and i feel like i had to mention it in the video nikhil forsaken kamala started off his professional cs go career in 2017 playing on a team called shooting monkeys safe to say forsaken didn't have the best track record coming into professional cs go as he had previous cheating scandals team ayati even stated that his first steam account had two vac bans on record it's also good to note that indian cs go was not even close to being a developed region in the game nonetheless optic tried to break into the indian market in june of 2018 announcing optic india they hosted tryouts for the team and thousands of players flocked to try to get a spot on the revolutionary roster after all was said and done the five players picked for the team were antidote ivonne marzill formless and forsaken now that the team was together they started playing and eventually found themselves playing an extremeland zowie asia cs go 2018 the tournament where the now infamous forsaken would find himself at a dead end on october 19 2018 optic india was going diverse revolution in a best-of-three elimination match the first map was a strong start for optic india beating revolution 16-7 on inferno forsaken seem to have a slower game only netting 17 kills but still not doing terribly we don't start to see forsaken's real form until we head over to the second map cash he split it towards the bomb site so they react accordingly forsaken would pop flash into maine and he's gonna get three frags crazy guy fog and jason all are dropping he'll get the fort and antidote i'm gonna have to try and retake the site luckily there is a hole in the smoke so jose is gonna get some nice positioning on the other side and he's gonna be able to get rid of fog to the 2v2 entry into the bomb so it doesn't go well well that's a very long crazy spray there forsaken but he manages to make it before the 20th round of the game optic india's marzil called for a technical pause to the match because of an issue with his monitor the admins walked right by marzil and moved over to forsaken forsaken then minimize cs go as it happens the admins had already found an out-of-place file on forsaken's pc and thought the technical pause was a good time to investigate the issue marzil who is sitting right next to forsaken at the tournament told the score esports the following so he goes to that folder and then he opens that file and i distinctly remember around three words which was have fun and hack or something on those lines and this is where we can see the famous clip of forsaken trying to push away the admin from the keyboard the match was stopped and optic india was disqualified from the tournament the same day optic india disbanded practically killing the indian cs go scene with it later on september 21st 2019 forsaken was slapped with a vac ban on his account it is unknown if this ban is to cs go or another game well that's all i have for you today i just want to remind you that if you enjoyed the video you have all the power to push it to more people i would really appreciate it a lot if you share the video around even if that's something you wouldn't normally do and leave a like on it as well there are plenty more cases out there so if you want to see a part two to this video i could always make one as well just let me know in the comments thank you all for watching [Music] you

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Published: Sun Sep 11 2022