FORMS. JOINING US NOW IS
ALEXANDER WANG, THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF SCALE AI. AT THE MOMENT, I AM TRYING TO
WADE THROUGH PALANTIR TRYING TO TAKE THE WHOLE MARKET. WE HAD CHATGPT WITHIN ITS
OFFERINGS FOR SLACK AND IBM WITH >> NEXT.
WHAT ARE YOU OFFERING THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS? ALEX:
AT SCALE, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR MORE THAN SEVEN
YEARS NOW. WE HAVE BEEN QUIETLY POWERING
MUCH OF THE MODERN REVOLUTION IN GENERATIVE AI.
WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF AI TAURUS PRETENDING -- TOURISTS
DEPENDENT -- PRETENDING TO BE AI NARRATIVES.
DO NOT SEE MANY OTHER PLATFORMS THAT CAN SAY THIS.
TODAY, WE ARE PROUD TO INTRODUCE OUR TWO NEW
GENERATIVE AI PLATFORMS. SCALE. A FINANCE SCALE -- SCALE
DONOCAN AND SCALE EGP. OUR DONOVAN PLATFORM IS THE
FIRST LARGE LABOR MODEL DEPLOYED FOR THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT. WITH DONOVAN, OUR WAR FIGHTERS
CAN ACT WITHIN MINUTES INSTEAD OF WEEKS. THIS INCLUDES THE U.S.
ARMY'S 18TH AIRBORNE CORPS, BCD I/O AND THE JOINT COMMAND AND
CONTROL EFFORT. AND MARINE CORPS DIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF FIGHTING. CAROLINE: ARE YOU SAYING THAT PALANTIR,
WITH IS MACHINE LEARNING AND ALREADY INTEGRATION WITH THE
DEFENSE IS AN AI TOURIST? : THE --ALEX: THE KEY THING TO
LOOK AT IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE
TECHNOLOGY TODAY USING IT ACTIVE.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLATFORMS TOUTING HUGE ANNOUNCEMENTS BUT
DO NOT HAVE LIVE CUSTOMERS IN ANY ACTIVITY TODAY AND OFTEN
TIMES HAVE "COMING SOON" AS THE HEADLINE ON THEIR
HOMEPAGES. THAT IS ONE KEY THING TO LOOK
AT. AT SCALE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH
OPEN AI SINCE 2019, AND HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER TECHNOLOGIES
LIKE CHATGPT AND OTHER TECHNOLOGIES LIKE MICROSOFT,
META, STABILITY, ADEPT, CARPER AND COHERE.
WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS INDUSTRY. WE ARE A COMPANY WITH THE
GREATEST AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE IN GENERATIVE AI AND WE ARE
EXCITED -- EXCITED TO BRING THIS TO GOVERNMENT CUSTOMERS.
CAROLINE: IN TERMS OF THE WHITE HOUSE, IS
IT GOING TO BE YOUR PLATFORM THEY ARE USING AT DEVCON 31 TWO
TEST AND UNDERSTAND HOW ANTHROPIC GOOGLE ACTUALLY WORK?
ALEX: EXACTLY. WE ARE SWITZERLAND.
WE ARE NOT BEHOLDEN TO ANYONE PLATFORM.
WE HAVE BEEN QUIETLY PARTNERING WITH MOST OF THE AI INDUSTRY.
ARE THE PERFECT PARTNER TO WORK WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND DEATH CON TO USE OUR PLATFORM TO --
DEFCON TO USE A REPLY FROM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPLICATION
SAFETY MODELS ARE. WE BELIEVE PROGRESS MODELS NEED
TO HAPPEN HAND IN HAND AND ALONGSIDE EVALUATION AND SAFETY.
WE HAVE BUILT OUR PLATFORM TO HELP ENABLE THIS AND THAT IS
WHY OUR PARTNER -- OUR PLATFORM IS GOING TO BE USED WITH THE
GOVERNMENT AND DEFCON TO UNDERSTAND THESE MODELS.
CAROLINE: WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WILL FIND?
DO YOU THINK YOU WILL FIND SAFE AND SOLID BASES BEING CRAFTED
FOR NEW MODELS? CAROLINE: BROADLY WITHIN THE INDUSTRY,
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IS THESE MODELS HAVE
ALL BEEN RELEASED OUT INTO THE WORLD BEFORE MOST OF THE
TESTING HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE PUBLIC.
INVARIABLY, WE ARE GOING TO FIND SOME THINGS ARE CONCERNING.
BUT WE WILL ALSO FIND MANY OF THE BUILDERS OF THE MODELS HAVE
ACTUALLY PUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT INTO THE SYSTEMS THEY
ARE DEVELOPING. I THINK WE WILL SEE A RANGE.
THERE WILL BE SOME MODEL SAFER THAN OTHERS.
I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIND THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON
TO IMPROVE. OUR GOAL WITH THE WHITE HOUSE
AND DEFCON IS RELEASING A PLATFORM AND A FRAMEWORK THAT CAN BE USED ACROSS -- IN
PERPETUITY BY THE INDUSTRY. WE WANT TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT
CAN ALWAYS BE USED TO VALUATE THE PROBLEMS GOING FORWARD.
CAROLINE: DOES IT MATTER IF WE PUT
VALUATION ON THE U.S. OR OTHERS DO, WHEN OTHERS LIKE
CHINA AND RUSSIA DO NOT? WHAT IS THIS LOOK LIKE?
TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT HAVE THAT MANY BOUNDARIES. ALEX:
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
THE TOPIC OF AI REGULATION IS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT ONE.
AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH AI TODAY, THE KEY TO HUMAN CENTRIC
RESPONSE AI IS A SOLID DATA FOUNDATION.
A TECHNOLOGY TO TRANSFORM TO THIS IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER
QUESTIONS ON AI REGULATION AND WHAT ARE THE CONSUMER IMPACTS
OF THIS TECHNOLOGY? ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE
EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK WE ARE DOING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND
OTHERS. OUR ADVERSARIES ARE NEAR TO
COMPETITORS LIKE RUSSIA AND CHINA AND WILL NOT LET
REGULATION GET IN THE WAY OF THEIR AMBITIONS.
IT IS THE OPPOSITE. THEY WILL USE THESE TOOLS TO
TIGHTEN THEIR GRIP ON DOMESTIC, SOCIAL, AND POLITICAL CONTROL. IN CHINA, THE CONTENT OF THEIR
AI SYSTEMS NEED TO REFLECT THEIR SOCIALIST CORE VALUES,
AND AVOID INFORMATION THAT UNDERMINES THEIR STATE POWER OF
NATIONAL UNITY. YOU SEE INTENT FROM OUR NEAR
COMPETITORS TO USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO FURTHER THEIR
AMBITIONS. THEY WILL NOT OVER REGULATE TO
PREVENT THE PROLIFERATION AND SPREAD OF TECHNOLOGY. CAROLINE:
VERY BRIEFLY, OPEN SOURCE VERSUS NOT?
WHERE DO YOU COME DOWN ON THAT? ALEX:
OUR BELIEF IS THAT ENTERPRISES AND GOVERNMENT CUSTOMERS NEED
AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE. AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE SWITZERLAND AND WILL ENABLE OUR
CUSTOMERS TO USE OPEN SOURCE MODELS AND THE BEST SOURCE
MODELS TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR AMBITIONS.
IT IS A QUESTION OF CHOICE.
