Apple River stabbing trial: Victim A.J. Martin testimony [FULL]

uh Alexander James Martin do you go by a nickname uh AJ yeah and AJ were you tubing with friends on July 30th 2022 on the Apple River uh yes I was and are you friends with Tony yeah we were uh roommates in college and then that was the first time we'd seen each other in like 3 years okay and what what college uh River Falls Wisconsin what city and state do you live in now uh St Paul Minnesota AJ do you have any prior criminal convictions yes uh two and what do you do for work um I'm a electrical Apprentice I install solar panels and how tall are you uh 59 and 3/4 and how much do you weigh uh60 now and how much on if you know about on July 30 22 uh 170 what do you at some point when you're tubing on the river did something catch your attention or people's attention that you were with uh yeah what do you recall about that um just a lot of loud noises screaming yelling uh someone asking for help and then uh um I had seen Maddie get up with someone and what I thought I or what I remember was getting up and I think I had got Dante up with me but then I turned around to also get Tony up and Dante was over there um I turned back around from trying to get Tony up and uh believe I saw Maddie get pulled in the back of her hair and then punched in the face um it could also be that she just got punched in the face and I seen like the after like her face get flung and that's why I thought her head got pulled um and then so um do you recall like how far away you were when you saw what happened to Maddie uh I was probably about halfway in between the groups I was or maybe a little closer to um we're group to right so I would be a little closer to group one the the teens group still on your way over yeah and after that did you hurry over um I mean yeah I was after I saw him puncher I um wanted to get over there but I didn't I wasn't yeah I I tried to get over there as fast as I could I guess and what do you recall after that um well after he had hit Maddie in the face um I saw someone else hit him and I wasn't sure who um I saw him fall into the water and my intention was cuz I used to work at elementary schools and had experience breaking up fights with little kids and stuff like that so my intention was to um go over there and try and break it up I saw him in the water and I saw people going around him so I went to push his shoulder in the the front but ultimately didn't um but I was going to try and just get him to stay down for another second and then tell everyone to back up and then we could have figured out what was going on but as I reached down to push him in the shoulders he reached up and uh I guess I don't know if you call it a stab but got me with the knife what was your injury um well there was a lot I guess uh the most um apparent thing obviously was that my stomach was open and my intestines were in my hands I don't know what other parts were there but I mean they were in my hands and uh I mean yeah I mean I I know that from there but afterwards with like the medical records and stuff I know other injuries I don't know if you want me to go into that or not um did you after you're holding your intestines did you see much of anything after that not much I mean after that I remember screaming pretty pretty viscerally I think is the word uh and then I remember kind of scooping it together with my left arm and putting my right arm down and standing up and then falling down and standing up again and I think I fell down and stood up one more time and then I was kind of I mean I was still conscious I was I was talking um but after that really all I remember is that and then telling Tony that I was going to die and him telling me I was going to be fine and that I wasn't and my response every time was uh like 100% I'm I'm going to die today and then I remember waking up in the hospital with a breathing tube and my parents looking at me and do you you know how long you're in the hospital for that first time yeah 27 days and after when you woke up the first time was that after surgery yeah it was around 11:30 that night I believe did you have follow-up surgeries um a few yeah did they was your wound Stitch closed right away no um they put what they call a wound VAC on it um I assume that act as kind of like a fake flesh or skin um and they left that on for about a week doing other exploratory surgeries just to make sure that they didn't miss any other lacerations or injuries and then after almost a week or so they uh had intern done it internal stitches but left the top open so that it would heal better and they put a another smaller wound back over that did you have to have um any sort of devices to assist with digestion eating feeding um yeah I had uh a few feeding tubes um some NG tubes to help with uh just the extra fluids in my stomach um but yeah I had the feeding tube cuz um after the surgeries I had developed the hematoma in my uh intestine and it was completely blocked off there was no food no water and the IV IV nutrition wasn't doing enough I had lost 50 lbs in that 27 day stint AJ were you drinking on the river that day yes do you believe you're intoxicated uh probably yeah did do you recall how you got to shore um no not really I uh didn't know that I did really I just remembered the standing up and the falling down and then I know people did move me in the end but I don't remember it I couldn't I couldn't see or feel anything at that point and you don't remember the do you well let me ask do you remember much of anything or anything from the point where you're on Shore till you wake up in the hospital no um I think I had lost too much blood at that point I mean I in the past I've lost a lot of blood from a injury when I was younger and I lost sight and vision or I mean I lost sight and hearing from that too so I know that like once you do lose enough certain parts stop stop working cuz your body is trying to keep you alive not your senses you talked about a artificial skin they had on at the hospital uh yeah the wound back we approach yes e e DJ this a graphic photo I War you first yeah what just can you just tell me what that photo shows uh shows the the wound vac and I guess the extent of the wound it I mean you yeah is that a photo of you in the hospital yeah that was the uh the next morning okay judge I'm going to move to admit this now I'm not going to ask to publish it any objection uh other than those noted and as long as it's not published they can Sal it's all right it is received what was the number oh sorry 29 what was it 29 29 correct so 29 is received AJ do you recall telling la forcement um I don't think I touched him but if I was my hand was on his shoulder it wasn't forceful yeah and did you tell law enforcement your your goal was to try to break it up yes I I remember that I'm going go through some slides with you for ready 2573 are you in this Frame AJ yeah in the yellow shorts you can take take this screen down please so we have it again just going to go scroll from 2673 2680 is that your shorts yep stopped at 2800 that section of frames I just went through AJ are those is that the part where you got hit the knife yeah and that did you know that guy's name at the time no now you know know him as Nikolai mu yeah and I want to ask you a question quick before I this this exhibit um 29 if you know I don't want you to speculate but do you know if that's and again don't answer if if you don't know that's fine to say you don't know is that from the slice or was it did you have further incisions from surgery no that's all from the slice there's um it actually goes from like you can't see see it super well in the picture but it goes above my rib cage too they they didn't have to open me up I was already open do you know can you show with your hands about how long the laceration was yeah about that I mean it's below the belt line to above my ribs are you comfortable showing do you have a scar yeah quite a quite a big one are you are you comfortable showing the jury uh yeah I can do that yeah you sure yeah okay actually might be faster if to just don't tuck it it stops right there there's a little Gap there cuz it hit my ribs but it thank you now I'm going to show don't turn the screen on yet please it's going to be frame 3111 and I don't want to show it gratuitously but I want the jury to see it so if we can just turn it on for a second turn it off yes I don't have anything else Mr Nelson Mr Martin my name is Aaron Nelson I want to ask you some questions okay yep I understand watching the video and seeing the pictures is upsetting to you is that fair yes I'm going to try to do it without the photos but if you need to see one we don't need to display it just let me know if you need something to refresh your memory I'm happy to show you on my computer or some other way want to do this as easy as we can does that make sense yes okay want to ask ask about some of the things that you initially told the police about what happened okay okay fair to say that your memory is spotty I wouldn't say spotty I would say I remember everything up until I got stabbed pretty well at least everything that I saw okay for the most part and Par to say that's not what you told the police when you first met with them I mean it was days after and I was on a bunch of pain meds it's pretty understandable I think to not have the greatest memory at the time maybe I'm just trying to establish the fact that at that time you didn't tell the police of certain things that you remembered agreed sure yeah since that time what you're saying is your memory is improved correct I think that shock has worn off and I was able to remember things that I might have subconsciously blocked off yes okay so again I understand you have your reasons to explain why you think your memory got better but we can agree your memory has changed from when you first talked to the police to what you're telling the jury today right yeah I just said that in different words but yes and in that time frame I would imagine you've spoke with your friends and family about what happened correct uh I mean a little I guess you know I mean I'm not this is a life-changing event for you correct I mean it was it was was posted everywhere people knew before I said anything so imagine probably a day doesn't go by where somebody asks you questions about it right maybe not so much now but when it happened yeah and amongst your group of friend you sounds like you're really close with Tony Carlson right I mean yeah do you live with him now yeah okay and as a result of living with Tony now I imagine you've still uh you also see his brother Dante Carlson correct uh a few times but he lives in Wisconsin I've only seen Dante maybe three or four times since the incident okay and that includes yesterday all right um how about uh Madison and Riley did you know them before July 30th I didn't know Maddie Riley Scotty Janelle um Sheena I didn't know any of them before that day since then because of this shared experience have you talked with with them about it um Maddie not so much she's kind of hard to reach um and Riley uh again not so much it's pretty traumatic for both of us we didn't really want to you know understand but you've definitely talked at different times with other people that were out on the river there with you that day correct yeah and you've seen the other than today had you seen the video that's been marked as exhibit number two and entered into evidence yes how many times did you watch that uh two or three a month ago or so and then excuse me um another few times going frame by frame and then yeah okay and then all yesterday too I guess um you were here in court watching the what was happening here correct I thought I was going to be up here yesterday so yeah I was here yeah um so I want to just make sure that when I'm asking questions and you're giving answers if you can do everything you can to say what you remember the image that's in your head as opposed to necessarily just something we can all watch the video of make sense yeah what we know is when you spoke with the police on July excuse me on August fourth you spoke with the police that day is that right uh I think it was that day all I really remember is saying that um Biden was the president okay I don't know the date okay um do you remember this young man over here in the gray suit sitting off to the side with a computer on his lap yes sir um that's the investigator Schultz who you spoke with on that day y whatever day that was in August correct MH and what you told him was quote the suspect had one of the girls Maddie by the head with his hand and then I watched him pull her hair that's what you told Mr Schultz correct I'm pretty sure that somewhere in there I had mentioned a punch too but this I want to read if you said this sentence to him all right did you say to him the suspect had one of the girls Maddie by the head with his hand and then I watched him pull her hair and then I looked back and I was like Tony we got to do something now and so like I just want to go over there and break it up and by the time I got over there Maddie had gotten away okay then that's what you said correct sounds pretty accurate yeah so when you first said that to the police you don't mention in that sentence anything about a punch correct I I didn't in that sentence no I might have later arm you said that uh he had her by the head and then he pulled her hair correct yeah and as you sit here now can you describe to me how he had had her by the head uh well from what I remember she had already kind of started to walk away uh and then he grabbed her by the like ponytail and pulled and then punched with his left hand okay and that was how he hit her in the left cheek and why the glasses weren't affected was cuz he was from behind Okay um so your memory is she's turned and walking away I'm just trying to break this down and she's got her essentially back to Mr me correct that was what I remember seeing and again all we all you can do is tell us your memory yep um and As She's Walking Away your memory is that he reaches out and grabs the back of her hair correct yes and do you know which hand he grabs the back of her hair with I would have assumed the right cuz I I believe he punched her with the left okay so and so did you know that at that time when at 149 in the video know the blade the knife had already been shown at 145 in the video I didn't at the time but after watching the video yes I but your memory is that whatever he had in his right hand he still managed to reach out his right hand and grab her by the hair with his right hand yeah and then he pulled her back yeah he pulled back and punched so he punched her as she's facing away well when you pull someone's hair back their head moves so her head turned towards him and then he punched and this isn't fair to Mr tresy but if I'm pulling him back if I'm Mr Mew and this is Maddie the punch is coming from this direction okay but he wasn't pulling her like that I understand Mr try is not uh look like Maddie for lots of reasons we're not going to talk about but right his hands up here yeah and the head's coming back mhm and then the left hand comes around yeah okay and that's the manner in which you said that he hit her that's how I remember it would be upon her left side here it's probably in this area right here okay and you're maybe up to the jaw or the cheekbone but in this area um and I'm just trying to make sure we get uh what you said down and so you're describing an area to the front of the ear correct front yeah front of ear area like cburn area sure we're on you you have some sideb birds coming down correct yes all right and we're on you wearing glasses it was below the frame of the glasses correct mhm all right is that a yes yes sorry that's all right um so that's your memory of what you saw is in pulling her hair with one hand and punching with the other correct yeah but also when you were pulling back on him you have to remember she had H not trying to be rude but like she has the hair you know yeah and so you also have to you have to remember tooo though that her ponytail might have been not centered so when he pulls she's not necessarily going straight back she could be going to the side she could be going to the other side I'm not trying to be if it sounds as if I'm been trying to be critical Mr Martin I'm just trying to gather the facts no I don't I don't think that I just felt like I wanted to or needed to say that okay that's fine fair to say that the description you just gave Now isn't the description that you gave to the police back in August of 22 agreed yeah yes yeah um another sentence that you uh told to the police you were talking to the police about um your understanding that the suspect Mr Mew had been making advances on one of the girls there is that right uh I didn't really know I didn't know if that was what was happening I was I had heard the other comments that the other group was making so I I didn't even know if there was a girl in their group at that point in time um I was just going over there because I didn't think that it was super smart to let two girls go and approach a 250 lb man by themselves so just to lot to unpack there again lots of things were said and you didn't know what to believe would that be fair to say yeah but when you're describing this to the police you're describ I'm just trying to set this up where you you say something to the police does that make sense okay you say I heard they were making advances on one of the girls there make sense something along those lines yeah and then the police officer says they're like yeah the guy's hitting on her she's not of age the police officer says that to you and in response you say I saw him grab the other girl by the head so it didn't really matter at that point those are the words that you told investigator Shel correct mhm yes uh yes okay other things that you said on that day were that you didn't touch Mr Mew correct I said that that was a possibility you read that earlier you were asked were you touching him when you were getting stabbed the answer no do you remember answer I don't think I ever did if I did like my hand was on the shoulder maybe but it wasn't forceful yeah those are the words that you said so I had said possibly not but I also did give credit to the fact that I could have touched him I understand that I'm asking I'm just trying to gather what you exactly said to the police yeah I answer and the third thing that you said to the police regarding those things is you uh you said that you saw I think you said in your words the black guy hit him correct I thought it was him but I was wasn't sure okay and you've learned since then that it's your roommate's brother that hit him correct yes but that's not what you told the police correct it's not what I remembered do you have a memory of the black guy hitting him that's what I thought I saw but there was a lot of people standing close to each other so it was pretty I think understandably pretty easy to get confused understood we're just so you thought you saw him pull her hair and punch her with his left hand right you thought you didn't touch him at all right I and you I gave I didn't think that I didn't touch him it was I could have possibly not and you thought that the black guy punched me correct yes those were the memories that you shared with the police in August correct sure yes fair to say that all those memories are wrong uh yeah I mean I would yes you agree that those memories are wrong I would say no I wouldn't say that the second one is wrong because like I said I gave credit to both the possibility of me hitting him or or pushing him in the possibility of me not touching him at all well let's pull that one out let me just talk about the other two do you agree the memory that you told the police that you had of Mr Mew pulling uh Madison from behind by the hair and punching her with the left hand that's wrong I mean I guess I can't say yes or no cuz doesn't really show that in the video and I I mean my memory about that hasn't changed so okay that's still how you remember it that's how I remember it yes and the memory about uh the black guy punching Mr MW that's still how you remember it it's no not I mean I I don't know exactly what I saw I saw him close to him and it could have been his arm that hit him but I really didn't know what I saw at that point so okay all right um I want to go through um a portion of what I think is on the video to just ask if that is what you remember happening okay okay um because as I think you told the police during your interview you said to the police I wanted to get I wanted to get the guy away from us but I wasn't going to try and like punch him I'm not a fighter I'm tiny that's what you told the police right yeah I was the biggest I'd ever been in my life and I was still not a super big guy he had 80 lbs on me understand I'm just trying to again the words that you said to the police were I'm not a fighter yes all right at some we saw in the slides there that at some point Mr Mew goes down into the water from Mr uh Dante Carlson punching him right yes I'm just to put it into context and then we see in the slides your leg you kind of approach and stand over him correct I wouldn't say over him I would say I'm to the side of him and then he starts moving and okay my body position plus where he moved himself would make it appear that way sure he's on the ground correct yep in the water correct you're standing on two feet correct yes you weren't leaning over him but it might appear that way if somebody is down in the water looking up correct it could yeah and when that happens you don't push your friend Dante away do you I uh uh I didn't even know that Dante was there at the moment I didn't see the second hit or slap or the third one I had wet hair my hair was hanging down I was looking down I wasn't focused on other people I was focused on getting this man away from everyone else so this man this man Nikolai knew yeah this man at that point you knew he had been punched and knocked to the ground and he's in the water correct Y and you're telling the jury that you what you were trying to do is you were trying to get him away from other people while he's down in the ground in the water get people away in some way shape or form it didn't need to be him I wanted him to stay down so we couldn't go and punch another person and then I was going to tell everyone there to back away cuz you know so there's lot to unpack there again you could you as you said you wanted to get other people away but you didn't go to the other people you went to Mr me correct yeah I went to the guy who was punching people first correct um again based upon your memory that he pulled someone's hair and punched them from behind correct based on the memory that I know that he punched someone yes doesn't matter how he punched them I know he punched them and he shouldn't have okay um and you were going to make him pay for that no so when he's down in the water on the ground and you're standing there trying to be The Peacemaker cuz you're not a fighter you thought it was going to be peaceful to you to keep him down in the water I mean it was shallow water his head wasn't below all we needed was an extra second to get people to move away from him and then he could get up and we could possibly have a conversation but I mean he hadn't used any words up until that point so probably not so when you're standing there next to him when he's on the water you don't see your friend Dante come up and smack him across the face a second time you don't see that I saw him get dropped into the water and I was looking down at him my hair was over my eyes here I mean it was shorter than it is now but you can imagine so you didn't see him go back into the water the second time in response to Dante hitting him didn't you didn't see that he went down into the water and then he never got up sure cuz Dante when he was in the water correct okay but you said the second time he was in the water that's the first time still the second time came after he stabbed me okay understood um his his uh first time was in the water was extended for a longer period of time because Dante smacked him when he was already down in the water sure yes and you're were saying you were standing right there but you didn't observe that no like I said my hair was in the way and I wasn't really focused on Dante I didn't know where Dante was I was focused on the man who was hitting people who was hitting people not at that point the man that was hitting people was Dante Carlson right sorry should I I will rephrase the man who started the physical altercation okay um that was what that's what essentially your opinion is correct I mean I would say that the first person to throw a punch would be the first person to be aggressive regardless of if um there are other people slightly touching his shoulder I mean even you were talking about the consent to touch thing and he touched other people without their consent too so I mean if you want to go that way we we can but it just doesn't make a lot of sense I'm not trying to go anyway sir I'm just trying to gather the facts so the person that's punching Mr Mew you don't see that correct I saw Mr Mew fall into the water and I didn't see anything after that in terms of him getting hit when you saw him fall in the water you went up to him from behind no I apologize but I'm going to need to show some slides I mean I can explain what I did it's good I'm just go through some slides please show uh my screen please showing you what's 2705 that's Mr Mew in the water correct yes that's Dante Carlson swinging to hit him correct and my leg in the bottom that's your leg in the bottom correct yep you're moving towards Mr Mew agreed yes moving at him from his what would be his front left side and then eventually you come to be behind him correct uh when I would still say I'm at the midpoint of his body he just sat up that wouldn't necessarily constitute being behind someone I mean yes I I was I guess technically but he wasn't there when I walked there he moved himself to have me behind him you moved yourself correct no he moved I I moved I walked over there yes but I was standing right at about his hips and then he or sat up so is it your testimony that in some way Mr Mew was aware of your presence and intentionally turned to have you behind him is that what you're saying I'm not saying he did it intentionally I'm just saying that that's what happened okay so again you're behind him correct and uh sort of on a side until he this is you with your left hand on his back shoulder and his right hand on his back shoulder you're behind him correct yeah I have both hands on one shoulder if I would I'm not completely behind him you can see I'm somewhat on the side but yes I am somewhat behind him due to his repositioning you're pushing him correct yeah that's where I had said that I thought IID push him in the front left shoulder to keep him down but I was there too late so I didn't get that shoulder I guess I got the back of it and you said you're a peacemaker right you like to mediate yeah that's what I was trying to do you could understand how somebody who'd been down in the water and hit two times getting pushed from behind may not understand that you're trying to mediate goes to his mindset over you can answer the question to sorry what was the question sure as somebody who likes to mediate and was attempting to mediate you can understand how a person in Mr mw's position who'd been hit twice in the water might not understand or appreciate your intent to try to deescalate by pushing him in the behind I guess might misunderstand that right he he could misunderstand that sure I mean could have been solved if he tried to use words at all too could have and let me just go from 2745 to 2747 do you see that that's you still that's your body behind him correct yes that's your right hand on the right side of his back correct yeah that's your left hand on the left side of the back correct I'd say right's more in the middle but the left one is definitely on his left shoulder and that's your friend your friend your roommate's brother who is your friend Dante Carlson that's his hand that we can see underneath your underarm there that's hitting Mr Mew correct uh like I said I didn't see it but the video showed it so I mean so your based off based off of memory I can't say yes okay your face is right there and you're saying you didn't see Dante hit Mr Mew there no like I explained my hair was down in front of my eyes it's wet my hair is thick and black so it's not super easy to see through what you did say is Mr Mew wasn't saying anything you could agree that in this position with somebody pushing him from behind and somebody hit hting him in the front it might be a difficult time to use your words to make peace yeah the right time to use your words would have been before he punched a woman in the face we can get to that later um you extend your body to in an attempt to push him down as you say correct well I was pushing down and then he got up and I fell forward so I was asking about your intent your intent was to push him down in the water agreed it was to push his shoulder down so that he stayed down and I could tell everyone to back up yes so you agree your intent was to push him down and keep him in the water to keep him down if the water I mean if the ground was there I would have done the same thing it didn't I wasn't worried about there being water or not it was shallow his head wasn't going below he was going to be okay you could understand how perhaps somebody in the position getting pushed from behind in the water might not appreciate that you were trying to protect him and keep him okay right I guess head appear to be getting wet there not his face that's where your mouth is I I don't I see maybe the right cheek dip in a little bit but as soon as go go a few slides further and you'll see his head sitting back up again sure say safe as can be right I I don't know it is yeah please let's let's focus on the facts just clean Q&A please just back up a little bit more here when we you said his head didn't go in the water fair to say that's his head making a wave correct I would say that's his back making a wave and his head still not in the water have you ever fallen back after getting laid out in the water like that yeah I have okay did it feel like maybe the water was coming up on you even if it technically didn't uh no I mean I water usually has a pretty distinct feeling on your skin I mean and when you had that experience where you got laid out and fell back into the water did someone come up and attack you a second time in that situation sustained so I'm going to go forward back to the position where we were before I apologize so again you said here at 2754 you're attempting to keep him down and he manages to move away from you the person who's pushing him somewhere in the back area right yes yes I was trying to push him in the front left shoulder and I got the back left shoulder sure because he was was getting up and I was not fast enough to get the front left shoulder um and I'm going to go through some other photos here that might be difficult are you okay with that yeah in this position now you that's you and the yellow shorts correct correct and to your right is Dante Carlson correct I believe so I don't know I I I don't remember seeing anyone else there I remember pushing down and feeling strange sure is this person you knew what Dante looks like correct uh yes is that Dante in the two-tone gray shorts with the truly in his hand uh I believe so yeah and then that's the same person that's legs are right there correct correct so you and Dante are standing very near Mr Mew as he's beginning to try to get up out of the water correct correct and as he begins to get up out of the water you move towards him correct yeah you didn't know that he had a knife correct no you were going at him correct I don't know I don't remember anything after your first push this is where you're trying to you push him down again correct um I would say we kind of attacked each other at that one if anything but I mean I didn't I I don't remember this so I can't tell you I don't but you're I didn't he he got me before I did anything to him so this is your hands on him agreed okay maybe my my hand is on his arm yeah this is you as you said attacking him correct I didn't mean attacking sorry those are the words that you used to the jury I mean you were attacking him I wasn't attacking him okay you were trying to push him down in the water I was trying to separate every or get him isolated so that we could separate everyone else from him so we could get everyone away and then we could figure out what was actually going on because you hear teenagers asking for help you hear people yelling that he's a whatever and you I mean at that point and you see minors you're going to be more worried about getting him away from them before you ask the questions and you chose to do that by using your hands on his body to push him correct uh yes I tried to keep him down with my arms yes and then I was going to tell everyone to back up and give him some space so as you said you're not a fighter correct yes you were trying to mediate correct all right we've been through this before let's move on to a new topic please you'd heard that he W people calling him a predator correct I don't know what I heard I heard just I heard them saying stuff about a little girl and I heard I I don't know what else it was I know I didn't know like I said I didn't know if there was a girl in that group I wasn't worried about whether or not there was I was worried about getting the person that they were calling a pedophile or a raper away from the miners you're going have conversation about that later you agree that even though you're not as you say you're not a fighter you pushed a man from behind your friend was smacking him in the front agreed I would hold on hold on answer sustain we've been through this before many times please you have an please I am speaking sorry please move to a new topic apologize judge I thought you were done do you have any explanation as to why you pushed him while your friend was hitting him if you're not a fighter objection I already answered this please please ask an answer sustained was it because you got caught up with the crowd it was because I couldn't see the person in front of me because my hair was blocking my vision and I was focused on the man who had just punched a 23-year-old or 22y old girl in the face that's all Mr Anderson nothing else all right thank you Mr Martin you may step down is he released no okay please see the witness coordinator in the back

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Length: 52min 34sec (3154 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 03 2024