Angry, Vaccinated Americans May Power Democratic Surge In 2021

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I love his analogy "You have the right to believe that you drive even better when you are drunk. You can think that. You don't have the right to drive drunk in America without consequences." Brilliant, concise, and to the point.

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this is america so people who live in america have many inalienable rights from freedom of religion to freedom of thought to freedom to take all kinds of actions but let's be clear the limits always kick in if you endanger other people this has gotten a little confused these days let me put it as simply as possible you have the right to believe that you drive even better when you're drunk you can think that you don't have the right to drive drunk in america without consequences because it endangers other people there are many ways to get into this right now we're thinking along the lines of covet and vaccinations because this is the exact point that a sadly newly widowed woman in iowa is making this week her vaccinated husband dying of covid after spending time with unvaccinated people indoors who refuse to wear masks i have family members that don't agree with me and i guess that's their right but gary and i had rights too and he doesn't have them anymore she's not alone and now she's feeling a lot of this does come back to what we think and what we feel it has been a devastating year many were locked down many were dreaming of the type of thing that would let us all out freely vaccines and there are growing reports of how people who are unvaccinated and aggressively so sometimes not following safety rules and other precautions are drawing scorn contempt and resentment among the many people who have played by the rules now there's more than one way to come at this but we should be careful not to be overly euphemistic about everything we don't endorse everything howard cern says around here but boy did he tap a nerve recently getting a lot of headlines after saying basically what many people feel putting words to anger all the heads in our country who won't get vaccinations what the make it all mandatory now we're trapped in a country with imbeciles we have no time for idiots in this country anymore straightforward somewhat mournful but somewhat angry and there are new signs that this type of anger i bet you've seen it i bet you've heard about it may also become a political dynamic in fact 59 of the californians who say that those who refuse to get vaccinated are putting everyone else at risk are the same people who had a shock wave in politics helping back up democratic governor newsom delivering a quote historic embarrassment as the washington post put it to the republicans efforts to oust him largely over coveted safety issues he trounds conservatives who were basically making the other side of the argument complaining about mass mandates or giving voice to often discredited ideas about why people don't need to get vaccinated now there's a political strategist you may have seen on the beach jay comandori who argues here that the democrats in california at least successfully appealed to the anger of the vaccinated people the people who play by the rules and he notes that for 30 years democrats have often avoided anger while the gop has embraced it that looks to finally be changing he points to the mid-1990s clinton era when republican newt gingrich was all about the you see it right there on the cover of time mad as hell politics angry about everything republicans so angry that they rode that wave all the way through the tea party newsweek famously dubbing michelle bachmann the queen of rage and she was proud of it of course we saw anger on the right in the trump years book titles about the presidency read like a thesaurus for the word anger from rage to fire and fury now no one is saying that untapped rage is the way to do everything indeed it was a lot of rage and ignorance that we saw at the deadly insurrection we've covered and it's a lot of anger we see from republican leaders sometimes not even clear what they're angry about take senator ted cruz this spring as we stand together and defend liberty defend the constitution defend the bill of rights of every american in the immortal words of william wallace freedom [Applause] yes freedom now anger can drive all kinds of situations psychologically personally socially politically what we are seeing here to say the very straightforward thing is that one party that has largely tried to avoid this the democrats are picking up on how anger works possibly more justified than some of the republican anger that we've seen this is anger about people who might put their personal convenience or their personal conspiracy theories above the democrats say your family's safety will democrats tap the anger of the unvaccinated in a new way but you aren't going to help at least get out of the way we've been patient but our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us uncovered misinformation what's your message to platforms like facebook they're killing people i mean it really look the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated and that and they're killing people it may not be a strategy but it's certainly a mood one of the most famously measured people in american politics moderate joe biden making it very clear day after day when it comes to covid and the anti-vaccination movement he's had it a lot of other people have had it too i want to be clear with you because it's not always so simple based on what we've learned about health policy raging against the unvaccinated is unlikely to convert them to get vaccinated indeed we've heard from experts on persuasion and public health that that is not the way to bring people aboard but that's just one piece of this on the politics raging on behalf of doctors and nurses and teachers and on behalf of science itself well that may not only be cathartic for some people it may be the democrats road to a righteous anger which we have seen in american politics is a proven renewable resource if you're mad as hell and you don't want to take it anymore well maybe you've come to the right place you hear the music that means it's a very special day on the beat we call it che day with political strategist jake ominduri a veteran of several presidential campaigns and to whom we are indebted for some of the points we just went through uh good to see you again sir good to see you ari how are you i'm good not all anger is created equally no one's out here saying just rage through the week or the year um but as we quoted you argue that the democrats may have stumbled or found something here explain yeah anger as a political commodity has been wholly owned by the gop for over 30 years it was 30 years ago that newt gingrich and rush limbaugh made the gop the party of angry white males 30 years later nothing has changed the party's base is still angry it is still white it is still male during that period democrats have avoided anger and part of the reason has to do with race and gender dynamics as to who is allowed to be angry in this country due to some terrible double standards we have um obama if you remember could never be angry i remember at the time thinking that he could never conduct press conferences the way chris christie at the time was conducting press conferences let alone trump uh if you remember hillary clinton yeah jay before we get to hillary which is also fair obama was so restricted from anger that the key and peel show had a sketch where he had his own anger translator yeah he had to have an anger translator because everybody understood that a black man in american political life simply could not be angry if he was to be successful that his comp you know donald trump did not need an anger translator he was himself the angry person the angry translator you know of of his of the gop base hillary clinton if you remember allowed herself that moment of anger in the benghazi hearings after being peppered endlessly by stupid gop questions she exploded and the gop used that clip endlessly and out of context the reality is that trump can scream and yell his way to the presidency brett kavanaugh can scream and yell his way to the supreme court but women and minorities simply are not allowed politically to show anger and the democratic party as the party of women and minority voters restrain themselves from showing anger or tapping anger that has all changed if you look at the recent california recall the democratic party has become the party of angry vaccinated voters and there are millions of them you lay it out so well and it's interesting because i think what you're saying will be familiar to so many people who've been in environments or offices or social places where these double standards kick in your point is that if you're sitting around in a campaign and you've worked on them uh you're not changing that you're trying to get to 50 plus one so the obama folks are saying well the long-term project of shifting that systemic structural workplace sexism racism etc is going to happen after november and yet you're also helping expose some of that why there is this sort of gap um to the point you raised we were looking at the history here bill clinton was certainly politically adept and he spoke to the the very racial dynamic you say with anger take a look this is psychologically a difficult time for a lot of white males the so-called angry white males it's pretty easy for people like that to be told by somebody else in the middle of a political campaign with a hot 30-second ad you didn't do anything wrong they did it to you given that what do you see here in what you call the anger of the vaccinated which while not exclusively on the left uh leans that way we've seen in the data yeah i mean the roman philosopher seneca said that anger is really about defeated expectations the reason for example that you get angry when someone butts in front of you at the grocery store line is because you did not expect that somebody would behave that way you get upset about it what we are seeing with vaccinated people is that there it was an expectation that vaccinated people had and i certainly had it myself as a vaccinated person that everybody would get the vaccine everybody would get the vaccine and we would all agree to end this pandemic and the fact that that did not happen has led to real anger in the country and it's something that the democratic party can very much tap if you look at the gop one of the reasons that they've been so successful tapping anger is that there is and there was continues to be an expectation by white men that their status will not be touched uh that the stats that they've enjoyed for millennia will continue now that's an unrealistic expectation it should not continue however that was their expectation and they are endlessly angry about it and the gop has been very adroit at exploiting and using that anger it's time for for democrats to do the same anger is a great tool to mobilize voters the republican party has shown this for 30 years and it's about time the democrats do the same [Music] you
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Published: Tue Sep 21 2021
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