You said the other day Donald Trump is a TV star and nothing more, nothing less. And the quote, if we put him back in the White House, the reruns will be worse than the original show was. Why worse Oh, because he's so angry now. He's angry and he's vengeful. And he said, I will be your retribution. Well, I don't think I don't want him to be my retribution. I don't need him to do that. And I don't think anybody in America needs it either. He wants to be retribution for himself. I am convinced that if he goes back to the White House that the next four years will all be about him just settling scores, Anderson, with everybody who he thinks wasn't perfectly nice to him. You know, and the bottom line is that if you get lucky enough to become the president, United States every day, you should wake up, think about what you do for the people of this country, not what scores you need to settle for yourself. And he has shown himself, and I think most particularly in his post-presidency, to be completely self-centered, completely self consumed and doesn't give a damn about the American people, in my view, if what the American people want is in conflict with what Donald Trump thinks is best for him. And I don't think that's who he wants it behind the desk in the Oval Office. I want to ask you about the indictments that we've seen yesterday. Former Attorney General Bill Barr called the indictment, quote, very damning. And he said if even half of it is true, then he's toast your former U.S. attorney. Is he right? It is a very tight, very detailed evidence laden indictment. And the context in there is is awful. I mean, put aside taking the documents in the first place. But then when you start getting asked, Anderson, in May of 21 nicely with a letter from the archivist saying, could you please give it back? And you ignore it, ignore it, ignore it, then they come with the grand jury subpoena. And then according to the indictment, you tell your lawyers, tell them we don't have anything. Even though you have dozens and dozens of boxes of material, that's obstruction of justice if it's true. And so I think the former attorney general is absolutely right. And look, I did this for seven years in New Jersey. We did 130 political corruption prosecutions without a loss. What I could tell you for sure I know by that indictment is there's probably about a third of the evidence they actually have is in that indictment. There's a lot more there would guarantee be a lot more when you're a prosecutor. You never put every card on the table before the trial. And so there's going to be a lot more indictments. I mean, I have a lot of experience with indictments. This one is very detailed. It is. It's what we call in the business of speaking indictment. Because remember, when you're the prosecutor, you can't comment beyond what's in the four corners of that document. So I think the Jack Smith understood that the American people was going, we're going to need a fulsome explanation. If you're going to bring an indictment against the former president, United States, and I think he was right. So that is much more detail than you'd see in the typical indictment. But also, don't be fooled. There's a lot more information to come when they go to trial. Specifically, I think there are going to be a lot of witnesses who actually worked for Donald Trump who are now going to be testifying against in the 37 counts. What to you is the most egregious? Well, the most. Can I get the three? Most. I mean, you know, because there's so much. I mean, first. First. It's the nature of the documents that he kept. I mean, battle plans against Iran, nuclear secrets. The Presidential Daily Brief, which has the most important intelligence information that that anyone in the country can get. These are not his personal documents. This isn't like his doodle notes on his pad or like a nice, you know, newspaper article about himself. These are intelligence documents created by the government. And they say it's our property and the government's supposed to have that stuff not laying around. That's one, too, to suggest to your lawyers that they should lie in response to a grand jury subpoena. I've had a number of people ask me, why did his lawyer make those voice memos about each meeting I know why he did because this guy was asking him to lie and break the law and he wanted to contemporaneous recording of exactly what was happening when it was happening, because he also knew that Donald Trump, as he's done before, would throw his lawyer under the bus and say the lawyer was lying. The third thing is he is voluntarily putting our country through this. If at any point before the search in August of 22, he had just done what anyone I suspect in this audience would have done which is say, all right, you're serious, you're serving a grand jury subpoena. Let me just give the documents back. He wouldn't have been charged. Wouldn't he be charged with anything, even though he had kept them for almost a year and a half. None of this had to have. None of this would have. This is all him saying again, it's what I'm saying at the top. He's saying I'm more important than the country. These are my papers. He saw in the indictment that his employees were scared. There was his boxes, his boxes. He wants his boxes near him. He flew the boxes up to New Jersey for summer vacation. What is this like? They're a family member. I mean, seriously, I got my boxes with the. And let me ask you a question. What exactly was he doing with them? Did someone remind him he's not the president anymore? You don't need these things anymore. This is vanity run amok, Anderson. Run amok, ego run amuck. And he is now going to put this country through this when we didn't have to go through it. Everyone's blaming the prosecutors. He did it. It's his conduct, you know very well. Why do you think he did it? I mean, he couldn't he cannot live with the fact that he lost to Joe Biden. He can't live with it. And look, I watched the way Joe Biden is performing. I'd be pretty bummed out to if I'd lost to Joe Biden. But the fact is he did and he wants to continue to pretend he's president. He wants the trappings of the presidency around him. And I think one of those trappings is these documents that he could wave around to people as they detailed the indictment. This is secret. I can't show you. I might have been able to show you, but now I can't. But this is what it's about. I had someone call me right after the raid last August and say, you know him so well. Is he trying to sell these things to a foreign government? Is he trying to blackmail someone? I said, oh, for God's sake, stop. This is just to show off. Just to show off. And it turned out to be right This. And that's what makes it so ridiculous that we're here and we're in a situation where there are people in my own party who are blaming DOJ How about blame him? He did it. He kept he took documents he wasn't supposed to take. He kept it when they asked him back for them. They got a grand jury subpoena. He refused to comply. They raided his home finally because he refused to comply that all of those things were brought on himself, as was this indicted. Actually, one of a number of prominent Republicans have been reluctant to talk about the substance of actually what I know and I know you've noticed, including Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, he tweeted, quote, The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society. Why do you think they're not addressing what's actually in the indictment? Because it's indefensible and they're playing games. Look, you all need to know this. They're playing political games with you because they think if you kind of like Trump a little bit and I don't see anything bad about Trump and then Trump kind of implodes and goes away, then you're more likely to vote for me. How about we do this? How about you decide who is the most honest forthright leader who has common sense and will put you first? And let's put that person behind the desk in the Oval Office. How about we stop these games? And I think that's a game where you want to look. I've said this before, Anderson. I was someone who thought Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted, and I think it was wrong. And I think Jim Comey made a mess of the FBI and he made a mess of that case. Loretta Lynch, I don't know what she was thinking about in letting Jim Comey announce that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute that case. He's the FBI director. It's not your decision. It's the attorney general's decision. And that has made some Republicans rightfully feel like there's two standards We can have that argument. And we should we should have that argument because it's wrong. And I could say this if I'm president United States, one thing you can count on for sure there's going to be the attorney general who I say to him or her, day one, go to your job. And unless you need me for something, leave me alone. Just go and do your job without fear or favor or partizanship. And that's what we need as an attorney general. And I think we can have that argument, discussion, and we should but that should not allow these other candidates to then say, oh, but I don't want to talk about anything else. I saw Lee Zeldin yesterday tying himself in knots to not answer. What do you think of the conduct? Look, everybody, whether you like Donald Trump or you don't like Donald Trump, this conduct is inexcusable. In my opinion, for somebody who wants to be president of the United States. Let's say, for instance, I'm looking at these two leading candidates right now at Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Let's say it's 60 years now since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Let's say there was a Cuban missile crisis again. And by the way, China is putting surveillance in Cuba as we speak. So this is not a farfetched example. Do you think Joe Biden can actually handle it? Do you think he's up to it at his age? And secondly, would you trust Donald Trump's judgment after all of this to handle something like that? I think the answer to both those questions is no, and that's why I'm running for president. The special counsel Jack Smith has said he wants a speedy trial while protecting the former president's rights. Do you think this will go to trial before the election? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I think a guilty election I think he'd go to trial this winter because I want to get to in the weeds as a former prosecutor. But they have something in South Florida called the rocket docket. Their district, southern district of Florida, that cares about the speedy trial act, which says 70 days from the day of your initial appearance, which is tomorrow. Now, they won't do that because it's too complex a case. But can I see this case going to trial in six to eight months from tomorrow? I could.
