- You've saved your box tops, fished under the couch cushions and pulled together all
your leftover lunch money and you are finally ready to
build your first gaming rig. But what do you choose? AMD, Intel? We couldn't decide either. So today, we're going
to be building not one, but two budget friendly gaming PCs, each coming in at around US$1000, and we're gonna put them head to head, to see just how they perform. That is, after we perform,
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of the best budget CPU's on the market right now,
the AMD Ryzen 3 3100. What's so great about this is it uses the same Zen 2 architecture as their higher price products but in a more bite sized package. So instead of having six
or eight or 12 or 16 cores, it's got just four cores,
but they're fast ones and like the rest of
AMD's rise and lineup, there's full support for overclocking. Compared to our CPU, our motherboard is an area where we actually went beyond the bare minimum though. To be clear, the B550
Phantom Gaming 4 ASROCK isn't a high end board,
but what it does have is an upgrade path. So in addition to having
a couple of M.2 slots for SSDs, it's got support
for PCIe express Gen 4 in both the top 16 X slot and top SSD slot If we ever wanted to
upgrade the graphics card. And it's got out of the box compatibility with Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 Series Processors, which up until this point have such high core counts and high prices that they don't necessarily
make sense for a budget bill. But that doesn't mean it's
not worth spending the extra you know, 20 bucks or 30 bucks to have the ability to go
that route in the future. Representing Intel, we've
got the Core i3-10100. Just like our AMD competitor, it's got four cores and eight threads, but unlike our AMD competitor, it is not capable of overclocking at all, which did inform some of
our other parts choices. For example, our motherboard. We could have gone with
the H470 Phantom Gaming 4 which does have another M.2 slot, a couple more power phases as well as slightly
better USB connectivity. But because that didn't give
us any overclocking potential and stepping all the way
up to a Z series chipset just wasn't in the cards
at this price point, we decided to save the, what
is it like 20 bucks, 30 bucks? Something like that, yeah. The last key difference
between our two systems is our memory. For the AMD system, we're
using G Skill Ripjaws V and for the Intel, we're
using G Skill Ripjaws V. But at a slightly slower speed. G Skill rightly pointed out, when we requested memory for this project that the Intel System wouldn't
be able to take advantage of anything higher than 2933 megahertz. Now, because 3200 megahertz was exactly the same price
at current promo pricing, we opted to go for that anyway. With that out of the way, to save you guys some time and boredom, we're going to talk about
the rest of the parts with just one of the systems, the AMD one while Colin assembles the other one on the counter over there. Let's start then with the cooler. We've gone with a classic
here, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Hyper 212 EVO V2. It's got a 120 millimeter fan. It's a tower design with four heat pipes and they make direct contact
with the IHS of the CPU. Basically, this has been the go to for like 10 years for cheap
and cheerful CPU cooling, if you don't have an included cooler. Of course one common drawback
with budget oriented coolers is that the installation is, well let's just say it's
some assembly required. It's not difficult by any
stretch of the imagination, but it does take a little
bit more time than something like a knock to a cooler. Once it's on there though. Hey, that looks pretty freaking great, and the cherry on top
is to tie our fan cable and a nice little bow and plug
it into the CPU fan header. In line with our theme of building up pretty nice gaming machine
without wasting any money, we've gone with the EVGA 550 B5 supply. It's a decent quality unit
with 80 plus bronze efficiency. It's got a nice quiet fan
that can even be turned off. That's right my friends, it's got a silent fan mode and it's one of the most inexpensive units on the market with a
fully modular interface. While there are a ton of
other cases on the market, we really liked the 275R Airflow for it's good mix of price,
features and performance. It's got a tempered glass side panel, filtered air intake on
the bottom, excellent, oh, there you go, airflow
through the front, three included 120 millimeter fans and really nice looking cable management that's gonna give our
build a really clean look when we're done. This isn't by any means a
step by step build guide, but I also don't wanna gloss
over important stuff like this. With budget boards, you do still have to
install your own IO shield which a lot of the time
means bending these things and making sure that
they're not in the way, once the motherboard actually goes in. Try not to cut yourself, this is like the highest probability of cutting yourself part of... Dang it. - [David] Is it just cheaper
to produce external ones than to build them into the motherboard. - 'cause it's not just the
cost of the actual units. It's like the tooling cost of
creating the shroud and stuff, 'cause the IO is so different
on every motherboard. Like we blew so much of
this thousand dollar budget on the graphics card. And the only way we can do that is by saving three bucks here
and two bucks there, okay? (laughing) For storage, we normally steer clear as the roundless SSDs for
your operating system. But in this case, because we're looking for a
reasonable amount of capacity, faster than a hard drive, and we don't wanna spend
any more than we have to, the Patriot Burst 960
gig takes a lot of boxes. One thing we might recommend
in the future as an upgrade when you've got a bit of extra budget, is switch over to using your SATA SSD just for your game drive and run your ROS off of an NBME drive
that you put in later. At around US$500, our MSI MECH Radeon 5700
XT represents about half of our total budget. But given that this is a gaming machine, not a video editing PC or 3D modeling PC, I think that is more than justified and there's a lot of bang for
the buck to be heard here. It's got a fast GPU, it's got
eight gigs of GDDR6 memory and it doesn't have fancies like HTMI 2.1 or PCIe express Gen 4. But if you want to play triple
a games at anywhere from, I'd say up to 1440p, this is your ticket. Unfortunately, attempting to enable XMP and get it running at DDR4 3600 was a no go, even though
it's like supported. But I still think we
can do better than 2933, which is what Colin is
gonna be stuck with, with the Intel System there. So we're just gonna go to, oh yes, do you run frequency? Let's try 3200. Oop, I could have saved
our $3 here though. (laughing) Now that the machines are built, it's time for the head to head showdown, which of course means one V1, but also with bots on our side, so whatever, don't worry about it. See us go--
- Yeah. - With my Ryzen 3. I had a hard time running it. Anything higher than stock RAM settings. And I couldn't tell
you whether that's down to my particular chips
integrated memory controller or my motherboard, but that could be a
significant disadvantage for my system right now, in spite of the fact that I
have fast RAM installed in it. As for whether that's actually
a competitive advantage, I guess we'll find out soon enough. (laughing) Argh, no. We aren't playing. Yes, headshot. You know what the bottom line is though, regardless of who wins. So that's what a nice winner I am. - Yeah, of course. - Is like, these are
both great experiences. I'm having a great time. - Yeah, I'm sure you're having
a great head shooting me every time you come around the corner (laughing) - Something to note though is I'm actually hosting our server. But CSGO servers is not like
a super intensive workload by any stretch. Okay, we're going duel
berettas, duel berettas boys. Wait, what? My, my boss dead already, what the... - [Collin] I didn't do it. - No, you really didn't. Your bot killed both of us. I kinda fear Colin's bot more than him. (laughing) - Oh no. - It is games that Colins good at-- - Listen.
- This just doesn't happen to be one of them. That's why I picked it. So this is cool. We're recording gameplay
on our graphics card, I'm running a server, and we're both running
it like 200, 250 FPS. Not too freaking shabby, hey. - I've only got extra 20 FPS on you. - [David] Is it worth having
the other person on the server to see if it's comparable? - I see what you're saying, like to make sure that's not
a huge performance difference. Honestly, to me it doesn't really affect the conclusion much here though, because I'm looking at this going, then for a thousand dollars, boy can you ever get a whole
hell of a lot of gaming? Like this 1440p absolutely maxed out, yeah, it's an esports title, but you are getting an extremely competitive experience here. - [Colin] Oh, there's nothing wrong with this gaming experience. - On either side and we can
run some more benchmarks if you really wanna know
which one edges out the other. So why don't we do that?
- Yeah. - Which brings us
perfectly to our next game where you might notice I've
chosen a canned benchmark rather than a head to head battle. (laughing) Got them. And, three, two, one, here we go. Oh wow. You might've looked good and see us go, but we're running at the same settings 1440p absolutely cranked. And that Intel CPU is holding back the GPU a little, little bit here. Remember, these systems are
identical other than the CPU. And then the motherboard,
obviously to go with it. - [Colin] Man, I guess that's what an extra a
hundred bucks got you. - Yes I know, because if it wasn't for prices being driven
up by the holiday madness and shortages on AMD CPU's, these would be basically
the same darn price. - [Colin] Yeah. - And we didn't have to go
we could have to go B 550. We could have saved a buck and gone with a lower end chipset, knowing that we would
have to update the bios in order to get our
third Gen Ryzen Processor to work on it out of the box. So we could've gone B 450 and been right around the same price. Okay. Now, we have-- - [Colin] My minimums crushed you. - My low 1% FPS are way above. This must have just been one frame. This is clearly a better
result, low 0.1% even. Way better. - Well, with that crushing
defeat, let's open up 3Mark. - You already ran that, right? - I did already run it. So we can just load up the results. - Perfect. And you've come out ahead. - [Colin] Yes. - [Linus] In every possible way. I'm glad you asked why that happened. - [Colin] Yes.
- He didn't yet. But he was going to.
- I was going. - The reason is that synthetic benchmarks just cannot simulate every
possible gaming scenario. Every game engine and
every individual game using that engine can have
different idiosyncrasies that run better or worse
on different hardware. And that's why we don't
even talk about 3DMark in our graphics card and CPU reviews. Now, if you're doing
something like overclocking it's a valuable tool, because it tells you on identical hardware and am I my faster than I was before or slower than I was before. But it's not great for comparing
non-identical hardware. Now, let's actually carry
on that theme and fire up Cyberpunk 2077.
- (indistinct) - To illustrate that point, AMD is actually coming slightly
behind our Intel System in this particular game. Cyberpunk 2077 is about
eight to 10% slower on our AMD versus Intel System. Remember again, using exactly
the same graphics card and exactly the same settings. We're running on the
medium preset at 1440p. - [Colin] I mean, this
is pretty indicative. And I mean, as we're sitting here like I'm cooler and also faster. - I didn't even notice that you were running cooler right now. How's our 99th percentile. Oh wow, you're way ahead in that. Okay, well that's pretty much it. That's the conclusion. For a thousand bucks, you can get a fantastic gaming experience whether you decide to go AMD or Intel. As for which one is
slightly ahead of the other, it's gonna come down to
which games you wanna play. For my money, I prefer the white box here. And the reason is that, it's
got a more clear upgrade path but, we also don't know for
sure how Rocket Lake from Intel, which is also gonna be on
that same LGA 1200 socket is going to stack up. Which means no matter who
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the value prop between them is like considering
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compelling, just saying. I'm not going all PCMR on it. I'm just saying, to say... No, okay.
anyone know why the amd system didnt work with the 3600MHz ram with XPM ? The ram is supposed to be 3600 and the motherboard is supposed to support more than that
am i missing something? he says that the patriot burst 960 ssd is dram-less. but when i go to amazon via their paid link, and click on the 960GB version, Dram cache: 32MB SDR. same for newegg and B&H