[Music] welcome back to harbor unbox today we are looking at the most expensive high end desktop CPU to ever exist actually today we need to say hi and desktop cpu it's just it's just the most expensive desktop cpu to ever exist and quite shockingly it's not actually an Intel processor but it did make me think of an Intel processor that I once used and was quite fond of and that was the broad well II based Core i7 6950 X which happened to be the first 10 core desktop CPU when it was released back in mid 2016 now I should explain while I very much enjoyed my 69 50 X I also didn't actually pay for it so avoiding the hideous $1,700 u.s. price tag I made the product a whole lot more enjoyable and the new $1700 u.s. price point really was a sharp stick in the eye for consumers especially at the time because Intel basically just tacked on an extra two calls from the previous two-year-old 59 60 X and then Jack the price up by 75% so 25 percent more cores frame massive 75 percent increase in price by the time they released their next 10 core part all bets are off as AMD finally got their act together and had begun kicking goals with theirs in architecture and some very stiff competition from the first generation of thread roja parts or the 10 core core i7 7900 x released at $1,000 then refreshed again as the 9900 x at $1000 and now it's a $600 part refreshed once again as the 10 900 x and perhaps the most shocking part of all is many would argue that at $600 the 10 core part is overpriced and I'd say there right anyway I guess the point I'm trying to make is just four years ago the best any high-end desktop platform had to offer was a $1700 10 core processor that could run all its calls at 3.4 gigahertz out-of-the-box today AMD's kind of smashing that they're releasing a cpu with almost six and a half times more cause than the 69 50 X though does cost almost two and a half times more meanwhile Intel is rumored to be scrambling to release a 22 core HED cheaper but I seriously doubt they'll even bother at this point oh you can't even buy their current 18 core model so I'm not sure what the point is releasing a model with for more cause that's more costly to make and again you probably won't be able to buy it apparently these days in total is meant to be offering 18 cores for $1000 though they're not really doing that with the 10 9 8 exe since that particular product doesn't exist has it existed and yeah not sure how many have you been out to buy that part but it's out of stock everywhere I've looked and that's been the case pretty much since well day 1 reviews so technically that means if you want an 18 core Intel CPU you've got to pay around $2,000 us for the 79 80 XC or the 99 80 XC which ever model you can find so yeah good luck with that 22 core version but what this does mean is sadly with no competition from Intel in this space aimed you can get away with charging quite the premium yeah very serious premium indeed to be fair though the 64 core 128 thread processor is capable of some pretty amazing performance as I'm about to show you so even though it cost $4,000 us it's not as absurd as it sounds so let's talk a little bit about the thread group of 3990 X before jumping into the blue bar graphs as I've said this is a 64 core 128 thread Zenta based processor it comprises of eight eight core chip le'ts or core complex dyes built using tsmc seven nanometer process there's also an input/output die using globalfoundries 12 nanometer process and if we combine all the transistors from all of those dies that lands us at a staggering and quite frankly incomprehensible thirteen nine and a half billion transistors and the jaw-dropping numbers just keep coming as we dig further into the specs it packs 256 megabytes of l3 cache with 32 megabytes of l2 cache and depending on the workload the cores clock at between two point nine and four point three gigahertz and this allows the CPU to keep within a 280 watt TDP so this is all pretty incredible and very impressive but obviously this processor isn't for everyone mostly just because it costs $4,000 us but so because it is extreme overkill for most tasks AMD fully acknowledges that the 3990 x is a special-purpose processor designed for a relatively small customer base with a unique set of needs they say their customers for this part are predominantly professional visual effects artists so I suppose Hollywood types though they also believe there will be a demand from companies dabbling with 8k content using various raw or lossless codecs aim DS also verified 64 course scaling for compiling projects like Android OS or Unreal Engine so though we no doubt some demand for those tasks as well AMD believes the key to the 3990 X's success will be the fact that it does something that really no other processor does and that is combined both high frequency and high core counts into a single product and this is extremely valuable for a number of industries as it ensures maximum efficiency at all levels for example 3d rendering tools such as isotropic Scolari's a largely single threaded during the setup process before the rendering begins so having a process of the can clock up around 4 gigahertz during single or like the threaded workloads is very beneficial here of course a high clock speed at least relative to other very core heavy processors is also beneficial once the rendering process begins there really is a lot more to discuss but I feel at this point you really just want to see the benchmark results so let's get on with that and I'll talk more about the 3990 X and who it's designed for and all that stuff a bit later on the video for testing the Rison 930 150 X 3900 X and Rison 738 her X the gigabyte x5 70 or extreme was used then we have the MSI X 399 crater for the second generator for 2990 WX 2950 X and 29 20 X then for the new third gen thread repair 39 90 x 39 70 X and 39 60 X the gigabyte TRX 40 or extreme was used also all AMD Rising configurations were cooled using a custom Corsair hydro axial loop with a 360 millimeter of rad all have been tested using 32 gigabytes of course as Dominator platinum RGB ddr4 3,200 CL 14 memory I realized performance in some workloads might be higher with something like ddr4 3,600 memory but for an apples-to-apples comparison all platforms have been test with the same speck memory as for Intel the Intel cascade like X Corps I 9 10 9 8 exe and skylake X Corps I 9 99 20x were tested on the gigabyte X 2 9 horas gaming 9 also using a Corsair Hydra X Luka 360 mm in Arad then the mainstream act the 9th gen Intel Core processor were benchmarked on the gigabyte z3 9 horas altra using the same ddr4 3200 CL 14 memory but they were called using the corsair hydro series h 115 ir g be platinum 280 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler please note the Intel CPUs are not in any way TDP restricted as that's not the out of the box experience so we're showing the absolute best case scenario for out-of-the-box performance also please note this cooler in no way restricts performance so you are seeing maximum performance from the Intel CPUs finally the graphics card of choice was the MSI trio geforce r-tx 20 atti okay i think that covers everything let's get into the benchmark results Before we jump right to the graphs here's a quick look at the 3990 X's boost behavior when running the Cinebench 20 multi-core benchmark here we can see in the initialization phase it boosts to around 4.2 gigahertz and then the moment all cores are fired up and active that frequency drops to three point one five gigahertz or there abouts and after 10 minutes of looping through this test that was the frequency it sustained running the gooseberry workload through the latest version of blender who was quite interesting again during the setup phase we were seeing a single core frequency of up to four point two eight gigahertz and then once the workload began we saw an all core frequency of three and a half gigahertz which by the end of the test dropped down and remained at 3.3 gigahertz so about a hundred and fifty megahertz higher than what we saw in running Cinebench first up we have these Cinebench are twenty scores and Oh bother I have the same issue as AMD the school is so big it just won't fit on a single screen wait I think we can actually fix that without getting to more displays hang on a moment almost getting there yep there we go silly AMD all they had to do was change the horizontal axis I guess I'll have to email Lisa sue so they know this for next time okay so we're looking at a score of over 24,000 points yeah making the 3990 X a whopping 45 percent faster than the 39 70 X an 80% faster to the 39 60 X if you want to compare with Intel's best it's a hundred eighty-one percent faster so four times more expensive for almost three times the performance in this application when it comes to single core performance the 3990 X is still very sprightly for a 64 core processor producing a score of 494 points which is comparable to the core oh nine ten nine eight Exe the rise in 730 800 X and in from the core I oh nine ninety nine hundred K now these seven zip compression results are very important because this is where the twenty nine ninety WX fell apart like completely fell apart basically the second gen 32 core processor was 40% slower than the 16 core version and this was due to the architectural design limitation that made it a poor choice for memory sensitive applications now the i/o die featured in the third gen design overcomes this issue and we first saw this displayed with the 3970 X AMD is once again proving just how highly scalable loose design is with the 3990 X here it was 33% faster than 39 70 X and almost 100% fast and then Intel's Core Oh nine ten nine eight Exe typically it's decompression performance where rise and shines and while the 3990 X is still fast here it is a little slower than the 3970 X the reason for this being that it's just not fully utilized and this was less of an issue for the compression test which didn't take full advantage of SMT support at most 7-zip was using 73% of the 3990 X so this gives the higher clocked 3970 ax a slight performance advantage but certainly nothing disastrous here moving on to Adobe Premiere and this is another application where the 2990 WX was a complete train wreck the new 3990 x though that hangs in there really well despite very poor CPU utilization with this program it managed to match the 39 60 X taking just 424 seconds and that made it the second fastest desktop CP we've tested in premiere it does fare a little worse than the Puget systems export test here the 39 70 X was 16% faster so obviously the 3990 axe isn't a great value choice for premier users but if you're primarily using it with applications that do get a big performance boost from having 64 cause it's good to know if you need to run an application like premier from time to time you won't need to build a separate computer to do it as was the case with the 2990 WX playback performance was solid again it's a little bit down on the 24 and 32 core models but nothing alarming here the 3990 acts simply dominates in v-ray even more so than it did in Cinebench this time beating the 32 core 39 70 X by a 63% margin and that meant it was a hundred and sixty five percent fast in the 10 nine eight Exe I mean what more can you say really for these rendering applications the 39 90 X is everything AMD promised it would be here we have the corona benchmark which takes almost two minutes to complete with something like a rise in 730 100x here though it took just 18 seconds using the threat Ripper 3990 X and that meant the 64 core processor took 47 percent less time to complete this test when compared with the 3970 X here we see the 39 90 X completed the blender open data benchmark in just under three minutes which is completely insane this test has traditionally taken quite some time to complete even with previous flagship h EDT parts for example the 2990 WX did really well here yet it took a little over six minutes to complete whereas Intel's Core oh nine ten nine eight exe took roughly nine minutes and that met the 3990 X was a little over three times faster alright so povery was a last-minute addition to this review and I added it because this is a good example of a program that only supports up to 64 threads at least the current public release does aim DS submitted updated code that allows poverty ale above 64 threads and fully utilized the 3990 X and they've provided us with the updated executable here we can see with the current 64 thread limit the 3990 X is only able to match the 3970 X but using the update which should be publicly available soon the 64 core processor will receive an almost 70% performance boost ok so let's take a look at system power consumption we know that all three third generator of hearts feature a two hundred and eighty what TDP so power consumption should be pretty similar and here we see that it is due to a bidding process and a reduction in clock speed / voltages the 3990 acts really doesn't consume much more power than the thirty-two core version pushing total system usage just three percent higher which is pretty remarkable given we often saw well over a 50 percent increase in performance when fully utilized right so full disclaimer gaming on the thirty nine ninety X is kind of dumb at least a dedicated gaming rig is super dumb but I know many of you will be interested in gaming results so I guess kind of in the name of science or whatever I have run the usual batch of games and will blast through those results now I won't spend much time here because as I said it's a little bit silly but who knows the guys making the visual effects for terminator might want to play the terminated game on their high-end workstations when they aren't rendering I'm sure at some point that was the thing anyway the performance in battlefield 5 was great shut off the term Raider also played exceptionally well you're looking at a similar experience that of the core o 9 10 9 8 exe Tom Clancy's the division - yep that also worked performance was as expected then we see that Ghost Recon breakpoint was like this is more CPU than I need enjoy the GPU bottleneck F 1 2019 appreciated the advanced technology of a 3990 X and it seemed the Silver Arrows were performing even better than usual so I wonder what's going on there and then moving on we have Borderlands 3 and yeah it worked it worked rather well and I really hope this is the first and last 64 core 128 thread fortnight benchmark good times speaking of good times time for some overclocking and I expect that pro overclockers are gonna have a seriously fun time with a 3990 X if they can afford one for this 3.7 gigahertz all core overclock I applied just 1.2 volts and this was enough to see the total system draw hits 765 watts with the CPU temperature surprisingly low at 77 degrees oddly and a little bit embarrassingly I was messing I managed to boot into windows with all cores clocked at 4 gigahertz and this produced a score of just over 30,000 points though the CPU was peaking at 92 degrees and the total system load exceeded 850 watts annoyingly I achieved this in the early hours of the morning a day before I had to get the review ready and I don't recall the exact settings I was playing around with at the time I'd been doing a whole lot of messing around the BIOS and with very little time to try and replicate the following day I just ran out of time so using 1.2 volts 3.7 gigahertz was the best I could do while properly collecting all my data this led to a 14% increase in performance and it met the overclocked 3990 X was still 54% faster than the overclocked 39 70 X which was clocked at 4.2 Hertz for measuring thermal performance I ran an hour long blender stress test at a twenty one degree room using a range of cooling devices basically we ended up with these same results as the 39 70 X which I suppose isn't hugely surprising given the power consumption is quite similar basically each CCD will be drawing less power and therefore generating less heat but there are twice as many of them so you end up with a very similar outcome the good news being out of the box the 390x isn't particularly difficult to keep cool well there you have it the thread Ripper 3990 X is a beast I'm sure that's going to surprise a good many of you right now though nothing comes close to offering the same level of performance it's completely unchallenged and really does redefine the h EDT space I was relieved to find that 1390 X has no real weaknesses for example when under utilized performance was still strong and comparable to that of the lower core counterparts such as the 39 70 and 39 60 X like the 2990 WX the phony r9e X is a superstar for rendering tasks but unlike the 2990 WX it still performs well when not fully utilized or faced with memory or latency sensitive workloads this was a major issue with the 2990 WX as you didn't really know if was going to be a beast or a bot for your workload so it was really crucial to have your exact workload tested before buying and obviously that's not always an option if ever with the 13 though is a much safer purchase basically if your application hadn't used the cause the 3009 TX will deliver the goods and even if your application slash workload can't quite fully utilize the 3990 X the performance is really about as good as it gets now at this point you might be wondering where our usual price versus performance graphs are for this one I'm just not going to bother with them the 3990 X isn't about price to performance rather the idea here is to offer the absolute best performance period for cool heavy workloads it's a little bit like how we only recommend the core I $9.99 a decade for gamers with extreme setups consisting of something like an RT x28 e TI for example and it's also a bit like how we only recommended the RT x 28 e TI for extreme 4k gaming with an uber expensive monitor the 39 90 X though it is more significant than either the 99 or K or 2080 TI it's not just a little bit faster than the next best thing it's a hell of a lot faster now I've talked a bit about who am DS targeting with this massive 64 call 128 thread processor professional visual effects artist for example but it's not just any VFX guys that the 3990 axe is designed for it's for VFX guys that have projects that take one or two days to render using a more traditional AG DT part for example whereas the 2990 WX might take 24 hours to complete a render the 3990 X could reduce the completion time to just 15 hours so saving that kind of time per project is well worth paying the 1309 TX is asking price on the other hand for those with projects that take me hours to render AMD recommends checking out the 39 60 X or 39 70 X as they're going to be a much more appropriate choice for such workloads I myself would look at purchasing either the 39 60 X or 39 70 X for the content creation work I do and right now I am actually using the 39 60 X and I've got to say it's bloody amazing previously I was using the thread Ripper 2150 X and then for a brief two-month period before transitioning a third gen thread Ripper I tried out the core I 999 hundred K again in my editing rig which I use with premiere the upgrade from the 99 K to the 39 60 X was nothing short of significant and while the fabric apart does cost significantly more it also allows me to do much more for example with the coronium processor I could apply the warp stabiliser effect to about eight b-roll clips simultaneously any more than that it would cause the system to slow right down to a crawl and would often crash which is obviously a major problem with the 30 960 X I can warp stabilize all the b-roll in a 10 to 15 minute video that's about 20 to 30 Clips all of them can be done at the same time this speeds things up massively and it allows me to do something else like create a thumbnail in Photoshop and I can do that without noticing any real slow down it's quite phenomenal really and it does massively speed up my workflow so I see the 3990 X doing much the same for visual effects artist software developers compiling projects and really anyone else who can make use of a 64 core 128 threaded processor overall an incredible product from AMD and while very exciting for professionals right now it's also paving the way for more affordable core heavy desktop processors in the future so that's obviously something that we can all get quite excited about anyway that is going to do it for this one I hope you enjoyed this video if you did like subscribe to the YouTube stuff and if you appreciate the work we do at home boxed and you'd like to become more involved with the channel and join the harborough box team then jump over to our patreon account you can do that get access to my discord chat monthly live stream and a few 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Did you hear he manged to hit a 4.0 all core OC (at 90+c ) but forgot to record what settings (He said it was early morning testing)
If 64 cores didn't crush 18 cores, I would be extremely worried.
LOL
But can it run x264 on the placebo setting?
AMD: "How many cores do you want?"
Consumer: "Yes."
Try to oc to 5 ghz with ln2, if that’s even possible
I couldn't stop laughing when he got to the game benchmarks.
Did I miss the compiling benchmarks because I don't see any?
Tldw
Well I think it might be worth upgrading my 3970x after this video. Some of those work load reductions were insane.