AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs. Intel Core i9-13900K: 1080p, 1440p & 4K Gaming Benchmarks

foreign [Music] box today we are taking an updated look at the gaming performance of amd's ryzen 7 7800x 3D and then we're comparing that with Intel's best the 13900k well the best would probably be the 1300 KS but I'm just going to assume that you're not into wasting money on dumb products so we'll be going with the much more sensible 1300 okay but before we do today's sponsor spot is brought to you by hetzner with hundreds of thousands of servers spread across several locations hetzner is one of the biggest European web hosts and data center operators with their strong focus on sustainability they offer high performance dedicated servers in their server auction there you can find different kinds of servers even configured ones at incredibly low prices without a setup fee already minimum contract period so you can save money while acting very sustainable hetzner offers a vast range of server products at Fantastic prices so for more information please check the link in the video description okay so recently I took a look at gaming performance of the core i7 13700k and compared it to the 7800x 3D the ryzen 7 processor was faster overall offering 11 more performance on average at 1080p but once we factored in the price of the ddr5 7200 memory which was required to extract that level of performance from the i7 we found that pricing between both of these options was much of a muchness making it very difficult to recommend the Intel processor purely for gaming of course there is an even faster option from Intel and that's what we'll be looking at today now for gaming the key Advantage the core I9 has over the i7 is a 20 increase in L3 cache to 36 megabytes and a small frequency bump of around two to five percent depending on which frequency you're looking at there are other advantages as well such as a doubling of e-cors from 8 to 16 but that's not particularly useful for those of you just focused on gaming all said and done though the 13900k does cost a little over 40 percent more than the 13 700k so that's going to hurt it in terms of value versus the ryzen 7 at 7800 X 380. anyway enough Chit Chat let's just get on with it for testing the 7800 X 3D was installed on the gigabyte x670e aorus Master using the latest f11c boss revision and ddr5 6000cl30 memory meanwhile the 13700k was benchmarked using the MSI MPG z790 carbon Wi-Fi with ddr5 70 200 memory as the Intel CPU does support higher clocked memory so we're giving it every chance possible when comparing out-of-the-box configurations then for the graphics card recourse using the Asus Rog strix RTX 4090 OC Edition which has been benchmarked at 1080P 1440p and even 4K so let's get into it first up we have Hogwarts Legacy using the ultra quality settings and previously I found the 7800x 3D was just eight percent faster than the 13700k at 1080p the 1300 okay that does a good job of closing the Gap as now the ryzen processor is just three percent faster so a negligible performance difference there similar margins are also seen at 1440p before the results became entirely GPU Limited at 4K now with Ray tracing enabled we do find much of the same so similar performance between all three CPUs though the one percent lows of the 7800x 3D do improve dramatically here at 1080p we see the average frame rate for the Horizon 7 part is just five percent greater than that of the 13 no hurry okay but the one percent lows they're improved by 13 so that is a noticeable difference now moving on to Spider-Man remaster we fight the 7800x 3D and 13900k and neck and neck the 1300k is a little bit faster when comparing the average frame rate while the one percent low is better for the 7800 X 3D then with Ray tracing enabled the 13900k and 1700x3d once again find themselves neck and neck there's just a few percent in it here so no real winner in my opinion as performance is really close enough to call a tie as we found in the past for pushing 300 FPS in fortnite any modern high-end CPU it's going to get the job done and when using the Epic quality settings you'll be able to max out an RTX 4090 with any one of these three CPUs and it's much the same story with Ray tracing enabled though we did manage to extract a few extra frames with the 1300k but we're only talking about a mere three percent boost over the 7800 X 3D at 1080P and then of course we're entirely GPU Limited at 1440p and 4K moving on to the Last of Us Part One we again find basically identical performance between the 7800x 3D and 1300k the 700x 3D was up to 10 faster than the 13700 cat 1080p but the core I9 processor was able to close that Gap entirely now the 7200x380 is very fast in Star Wars J Survivor and the 1390k was unable to catch it only boosting performance over the core i7 part by a mere five percent making the ryzen 7 process a 15 faster at 1080p that said though we do end up entirely GPU Limited at the 1440p resolution with 160 FPS on average next up we have Halo infinite and like fortnite this is another game that's largely GPU limited though at 1080p we do appear to be hitting a game limit as performance isn't greatly reduced when increasing the resolution to 1440p whatever the case though both the 13900k and 7800x3d are able to get the most out of the RTX 4090 another game where these latest generation CPUs are able to maximize the performance of the RTX 4090 is Warhammer 3 and as a result even the 1080p data is GPU limited so there's not much more to report here let's just move along now we see that the 139er case not really offering much in the way of extra performance over the 13 700k in f122 just a few extra frames at 1080p that meant that the 7800 X 3D was seven percent faster which certainly not a massive margin and by the time we hit 1440p the game was entirely GPU Limited moving on to cyberpunk 2077 which is quite a CPU demanding game we fight the 1300k is able to nudge ahead of the 7800 X 3D at 1080p though only by a four percent margin and the one percent lows were much the same still the 1300k did offer a good boost over the 13700k which allowed it to match slash beat the ryzen 7 processor now although cyberpunk 2077 is a CPU demanding game with Ray tracing enabled any of these CPUs are more than powerful enough to extract the maximum amount of performance from the RTX 4090 even at 1080p where the 1300k and 7800x30 allowed for an average of 123 FPS the 1300k managed to pull out an 8 win over the 7800 X 380 and the Callisto protocol at 1080p pushing 283 FPS whereas the ryzen part could only match the core i7 that set at 1440p they were again neck and neck and of course the same was also true for the heavily GPU limited 4K resolution now Hitman 3 provides us with some similar looking sets of results to that of the Callisto protocol the 1300k was again the fastest CPU this time delivering six percent more frames at 1080p before becoming a GPU Limited at 1440p the 7800x3d though still appears to have the edge in Far Cry 6 hitting 237 FPS on average making it 10 faster than the 13 no hurricane scaling this one knows a bit odd we've seemed to run into some kind of system or game limitation at just over 200 FPS clearly Far Cry 6 isn't a game that's meant to be played at hundreds of frames per second and I can't imagine it was designed with that kind of throughput in mind shadow of the Tomb Raider is another CPU heavy game especially in the village section that we use for testing so we're not using the built-in Benchmark here that said as we found a number of times now the 13 900k and 7800 X 3D are powerful enough to get the most out of the RTX 4090 in this title even at 1080p so overall performance is again much the same next up we have Rainbow Six Siege and a few notes on the testing here I've noticed that the 3D V cache CPUs produce really high scores for the first few Benchmark passes it takes around six back-to-back Loops of The Benchmark before the numbers level off I assume that this is something to do with filling the 3D V cache as it's not something I witnessed with the Intel CPUs and at the second run generally leveled off the 1300k I've also moved from the Vulcan API to DirectX 11 as both the 7800x 3D and 13.0k were fast using dx11 with the RTX 4090 so whereas previously the 7800x30 had a reasonable performance advantage over the 1300k in this test they're now much the same though the one percent lows were still higher for the Horizon processor at 1080p Horizon zero Dawn does favor the 7800 X 3D and the results are very consistent handing AMD a 10 win at 1080P and 9 at 1440p interestingly the 13900k is not much faster than the 13700k so it's difficult to say what exactly the limitation is here for Intel's Raptor Lake CPUs moving on we know that ACC loves amd's 3D V cache but again I find it interesting that the extra L3 of the I9 it's not really helping relative to the i7 just a four percent boost is seen at 1080p meanwhile the 7800x30 is 27 faster than the 1300k averaging an oppressive 218 FPS so a big win here for the Horizon processor Resident Evil 4 is a relatively new addition to our CPU benchmarks and it has some interesting results for us the 1300k is a good bit faster than the 13700k boosting performance at 1080p by 11 still that wasn't enough to catch the 7800x3 which still ended up being 14 faster than the I9 with 177 FPS on average and similar margins were again produced at 1440p and these results were of course gathered using the highest quality preset which does enable Ray tracing the plague Tower Requiem results are also a bit unexpected again we find a situation where the 1300k is not able to improve upon the performance scene with the 13700k get the 7800 x3d still manages to be 16 faster at 1080p even at 1440p the 1700 x 3D was still 11 faster as the data appears quite heavily CPU limited though by the time we hit the 4K resolution the data is of course 100 GPU limited as you'd expect the ryzen processor is also dominant in watchdog's Legion delivering 24 more performance than the 13900k at 1080p this is also yet another example where the core I9 can't really improve upon the i7 despite comfortably losing to the 7800 X 3D the rift breaker has always been a strong title for Intel and the 13 not okay versus 7800x 3D battle is no exception the I9 was able to match the 7800x30 at 1080P and in fact actually delivered better one percent lows boosting performance here by 10 percent then last up we have Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and this is a fairly even battle between the core I9 and ryzen 7 processors with basically identical performance seen at all three tested resolutions so let's just wrap this one up Okay so we've now taken a good look at how the ryzen 7 700x3d and core I9 13900 compare across a wide range of games now it's time to break all of that data down in a single graph to get a clear picture of how these CPUs compare so at 1080p the results are pretty much as expected the 7800x 3D was just five percent faster on average meaning that overall gaming performance is very similar between these two Flagship processors there are a few examples where the 3D V cache part was fast Superior with no examples where it lost by a significant margin so AMD certainly does have that going in their favor for gaming but truth be told both are exceptionally fast overall then as you'd expect the margin is reduced to just four percent in favor of the 7800 x 30 when testing at 1440p and now there are no examples where the ryzen 7 processor was slower by more than two percent there were however examples where it was faster by 10 or more with big wins still coming the way of watchdog's Legion and ACC then finally at the 4K resolution performance is basically identical as for the most part we're just looking at RTX 4090 performance here and not really CPU performance ACC is really the only exception as that game is heavily CPU limited and these results in my opinion they're not terribly useful probably not useful at all when looking at CPU performance you certainly can't work out which CPU actually offers the best value or best gaming Performance Based on this data but for whatever reason some people demand 4K CPU testing so we try to include it when possible okay so let's talk about power consumption and firstly I'll talk about how we measure power consumption as this caused a bit of confusion in the last video I use an expensive power meter which measures power draw from the wall and also supports data logging so I can measure analog real-time total system usage throughout my testing and for testing I let the system warm up for 20 minutes and then run the Benchmark pass three times taking the average power usage for each run which then gives me three data points I then take the average of that data and report it as the final result seen here in this graph so this is total system usage it's not Peak power usage but it's almost always very close to Peak within 10 to 20 watts I'd say as power usage doesn't tend to fluctuate that much in this testing obviously like all of the testing in this video it's based on stock configuration so just XMP or Expo loaded and we're not undervolting here as that would be very misleading given results there would vary wildly depending on Silicon quality I should also note that both the AMD and Intel test systems use the same power supply with the only differences in Hardware here being of course the CPU motherboard and memory the only other variable is the frame rate the higher the frame rate the harder the GPU needs to work and therefore the more power the RTX 4090 will be using but in almost all of these examples the frame rates were much the same so for the most part that factor is a non-issue the end result however being typically much higher power usage for the core I9 1300k when compared to the 7800 X 3D in fact the Intel system used an insane 106 Watts more on average when compared to the AMD system now we did see some examples such as Star Wars Jedi Survivor Resident Evil 4 and a plague Tower Requiem were the 13900k used up to 72 Watts more power so well under the average in those examples but still the 7800 X 380 was 14 faster or more at 1080p in those games then we say a really insane result a very high power figure for the 13900k in The Last of Us Part One a figure that almost seems impossible but after further investigation it does start to make sense for whatever reason the game heavily utilizes this CPU 60 for the 1300k and I did see at least half of the e-cors heavily loaded and this is what caused the power levels to go through the roof heavy usage of those e-cors I was still seeing 70 utilization on the 7800 X 3D but with significantly fewer cores that's really to be expected still even if we ignore the Last of Us result the 1300k consumed on average 92 Watts more than the 7800 X 3D and that is a massive absolutely massive difference for the CPU to make so if you care about power efficiency the 1300k will not be the CPU for you or at the very least you'll have to invest quite a bit of time in tweaking its operating parameters though of course you could do the same for the 7800 X 3D so there you have it that's how these two processors compare head to head in terms of game performance and power consumption truth be told they're both very similar and this is what I said in my day one at 7800x 3D review they do tend to trade blows resulting in very similar performance overall though we did find there were more examples where the ryzen processor won by a significant margin it does appear as though the 7800x3 is generally fast to win paper ddr5 6000cl30 memory versus the 1300 okay using ddr5 7200 this also means that the ryzen processor is presenting as the best value high-end gaming option right now at 450 US versus 580 us for the 13900k making the I9 almost 30 more expensive so purely for those of you interested in high-end gaming performance the 7800 X 3D is clearly a much better value option right now and it also consumes significantly less power Beyond gaming though the 1300k does pack a significantly greater punch with its 16e cores so it does do a better job of giving you sort of The Best of Both Worlds there I guess that said though the 7950x 3D can be had for 680 right now and those 16 big cores ensure strong performance in all productivity workloads whereas the e-cors they can be a bit more hit and miss so you really want to research how the two compare for your particular workloads gaming goes a lot more clear-cut and it's generally an 8 core versus 8 core battle between the 7800x3d and 1300k and it looks like AMD has won this round that said Intel is set to strike back shortly with their Raptor like refresh though the upcoming 14th gen series is likely going to be a very minor improvement over the 13th gen given that it is a refresh and the biggest gains are likely going to be seen the way of cinebench and other applications that use the extra e-cors of course we are yet to test Parts like the core I9 14 900k so it's a bit of an unknown at this point if intel can catch and even beat AMD for gaming but we should know in around three months time until then I hope you did find this video useful if you did you know what to do also subscribe for more content as I said more CPU comparisons coming up later this year and you can also join us over at floatplane or patreon if you'd like to get access to some pretty cool stuff we have an exclusive Discord server for members only we do monthly live streams behind the scenes content and Q a stuff so check that out if you're interested but if not that is perfectly fine and I would like to thank you for watching this video I'm your host Steve see you next time [Music] thank you [Music] foreign

Channel: Hardware Unboxed

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Length: 18min 40sec (1120 seconds)

Published: Sat Jul 29 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/ConsistencyWelder]

The power consumption is what gets me. Using much less power while performing better and costing less? There's no good reason to get Intel at this price range, not if gaming is your priority.

[u/Confitur3]

415W total power consumption with the X3D playing TLOU vs 616/621 for 13700k/13900k

I wouldn't even look at the Intel ones for a pure gaming rig

[u/ZaadKanon69]

Another video? Lol.

It was already known that the 7800X3D is the better CPU for gaming and almost disgustingly efficient compared to Intel. The 13900K uses 50-200 watts more in games, oof. That's on average double the power usage.

There's a reason why 14th gen comes with a bunch of L4 cache. Intel has no direct competition for the X3D gaming CPUs.

[u/mayyokat]

I feel like amd has such success with cpu they don’t care half that for their gpu

[u/taryakun]

I am pretty sure I've seen this review before, did they reupload their vid?

[u/chips500]

Too bad they don't have benchmarks where the x3d CPU's really shine, such as factorio, stellaris, VR, etc.

Limits of production and studio size and all that.

[u/pecche]

wow that power consumption

[u/mines_4_diamonds]

Anyone knows why Cyberpunk seems to have a preference for Intel CPUs? also interesting to note of is that other games that you might think will perform better on the 3d chip actually performs better on Intel (i.e. Star Citizen).

[u/macybebe]

I'm puzzled why they did not try to PL the 13900k at 120watts. Because the result is identical.