>> Stephen: FOLKS, WELCOME
BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW." LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
YOU KNOW MY FIRST GUEST FROM "GIRLS," "BLACKKKLANSMAN," AND
AS KYLO REN IN "STAR WARS." HIS NEW FILM IS "MARRIAGE
STORY." >> I BROUGHT YOU SOMETHING. YAY. MOM'S GETTING ME A PRESENT, TOO. >> WHY? FOR POOPING. OH. I LOVE YOU. >> I LOVE YOU. DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REWARD
HIM FOR POOPING ANYMORE. >> HE HOLDS IT IN. AS ITS OWN REWARD. MOM! ( LAUGHTER )
WHY DIDN'T YOU RESPOND TO MY LAST EMAIL? >> YOUR EMAILS ARE SO ARTICULATE
I GET INTIMIDATED. ( LAUGHTER )
>> MOM, MOM! WHAT? >> STEPHEN: PLEASE WELCOME, ADAM
DRIVER! ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
( BAND PLAYING ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
( BAND PLAYING ) >> Stephen: HI. HI. >> Stephen: NICE T TO HAVE YOU
BACK. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. >> Stephen: I DON'T ALWAYS GET
TO SEE THE MOVIES THAT THE GUESTS ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT. I WANT TO, BUT THERE'S JUST A
LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF MOVIES. >> RIGHT. >> Stephen: OFTEN, I'LL SEE
THE MOVIE AFTER THEY'VE LEFT BECAUSE I FINALLY HAVE TIME AND
GO, GOD BLESS IT, I WISH I COULD HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS
MOVIE, KNOWING WHAT IT WAS ABOUT AND HAVING SEEN THE PERFORMANCE,
I AM SO GLAD THAT I SAW YOUR MOVIE BEFORE YOU'RE HERE SO I
CAN JUST BRIEFLY BUT PASSIONATELY GUSH AT YOU AND THE
SCARLETT JOHANSSON. I CAN'T WAIT TO TALK TO HER. SHE'S COMING ON IN A COUPLE OF
WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S HILARIOUS, HEARTBREAKING
AND, AS I SAID BACKSTAGE, A COURAGEOUS MOVIE. YOU LAY YOUR HEART SO BEAR IN
THIS, AND IF YOU CAN TELL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, IF YOU DON'T
MIND, TELL THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER CHARLIE AND
SCARLETT'S CHARACTER NICOLE. WHAT IS THEIR RELATIONSHIP? >> THE RELATIONSHIP AT THE START
AND BEFORE THE MOVIE IS THEY ACTUALLY MET IN PERFORMANCE. SHE SAW HIM AT A SITE-SPECIFIC
PLAY THAT SHE SAYS, AND HE'S A THEATER DIRECTOR, SHE'S KIND OF
HIS MUSE. IN A WAY, THEY HAVE A VERY KIND
OF LOW-BUDGET, LOW-RENT THEATER COMPANY THAT THEY WORK ON
TOGETHER HERE IN NEW YORK, AND THEY -- NOAH BOMBBACH THE
DIRECTOR WANTED TO TELL THEIR STORY THROUGH A DIVORCE, THE
SCOPE OF ITS ENDING, THAT'S WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO AND WHAT IT'S
ABOUT. THEN IT GETS , INTO YOU KNOW,
THE TECHNICAL PART OF THE PERFORMANCE IN A WAY OF DIVORCE,
HOW THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, REGULAR HUMAN INTERACTIONS THAT
ARE SOMEHOW SUDDENLY PUT IN LENSES OR BOXES USED AGAINST YOU
IN COURT, HOW IT CAN BE VERY IMPERSONAL. TWO PEOPLE WHO START OUT WITH
THE BEST OF INTENTIONS OF TRYING TO SEPARATE AS FRIENDS SUDDENLY
GETS, YOU KNOW, OVERRUN BY OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND AGENDAS
AND YOU KIND OF JUST DESPERATELY WANT THEM TO FIND THAT KERNEL OF
THE THING OF WHAT THEY LOVED ABOUT EACH OTHER TO BEGIN WITH. I THINK HE DOES A REALLY HARD
HAT TRICK OF TELLING A STORY THROUGH A VERY SPECIFIC LENS,
BUT I THINK IT'S RELATABLE TO ANYONE, NOT NECESSARILY IF
YOU'VE EVEN BEEN THROUGH A DIVORCE, BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN IN
LOVE EITHER OR EXPERIENCED LOVE TRANSITIONING INTO SOMETHING
ELSE YOU WEREN'T PREPARED FOR. >> Stephen: FOR A MOVIE THAT
IS LARGELY INVOLVED WITH THEIR DIVORCE, IT'S A LOVE STORY. >> YEAH, VERY MUCH, TOLD AT THE
END. >> Stephen: AND YOU SEE HOW
MUCH THEY'RE IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER, IN WAYS THAT THEY DON'T
NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT EACH OTHER BUT YOU AS THE AUDIENCE
KNOW YOU CAN SEE WAYS THEY FEEL ABOUT EACH OTHER AT TIMES,
ESPECIALLY FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE, WITHOUT GIVING
ANYTHING AWAY, THAT COME TO FRUITION LATE IN THE MOVIE. DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S ONLY
THROUGH THE ENDINGS THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE
BEGINNINGS OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS? >> SOMETIMES, YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S EVEN A GREAT
LINE THAT'S IN THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S DOING ALL THESE
THINGS NOW HE DIDN'T DO IN THE RELATIONSHIP AND HE HAS A
MEETING WITH THIS LAWYER, ALAN ALDA PLAYS THE LAWYER, AND SAYS
BEING A BETTER HUSBAND IN DIVORCE. WHEN EVERYTHING'S TAKEN AWAY
FROM YOU, WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEONE ON SUCH A MOLECULAR LEVEL, YOU
KNOW, YOU'RE SO USED TO -- AND THEN THAT TRANSITIONED INTO
SOMETHING ELSE, IT CAN BE A VERY VIOLENT FEELING. THINGS YOU TOOK FOR GRANTED YOU
HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT WAY, AND THAT CAN BE TOUGH FOR
ANYBODY. SO, IN THAT SENSE, YEAH, YOU'RE
MORE OPEN BECAUSE YOU ARE AWARE NOW THAT YOU'VE LOST SOMETHING. THAT YOU TOOK FOR GRANTED THAT
WAS ALWAYS JUST GOING TO BE THERE. >> Stephen: AS SOON AS THE
MOVIE WAS OVER, I LOOKED UP TO SEE WHETHER YOU ARE MARRIED. >> YEAH. >> Stephen: AND YOU ARE. YEAH. >> Stephen: AND I DON'T WANT
TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE BECAUSE YOUR MARRIAGE
IS ONE THING AND THE MOVIE IS A DIFFERENT THING. I DON'T WANT TO CONFLATE THE TWO
BUT I CERTAINLY WATCHED THE MOVIE THINKING WHAT DO I DO IN
THIS SITUATION? IT MADE ME QUESTION WAYS IN
WHICH I'M A GOOD AND BAD HUSBAND BY WATCHING IT. IT'S A RELATABLE SERIES OF
INDICTMENTS AND CELEBRATIONS OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. COULD YOU HAVE PLAYED THIS PART
IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE MARRIED? >> I THINK SO. I THINK -- IT'S HARD TO -- IT'S
HARD TO SAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO IT THE OTHER WAY. I DON'T KNOW EVEN KNOW THAT
YOU -- IN A WAY, IT'S MY JOB AS AN ACTOR TO TELL THE STORY OF
THE SCRIPT. MY RELATIONSHIP TO IT IN A WAY
IS MATERIAL, IN A SENSE. I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT'S MY JOB
TO HAVE A FEELING. IT'S MY JOB TO TELL THE STORY OF
WHAT IT IS. IT'S THE AUDIENCE'S JOB TO HAVE
A FEELING. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU COULD BE
HAVING ALL THE FEELINGS YOU WANT AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
THAT'S THE STORY. THEN YOU'RE JUST WATCHING
SOMETHING REMOTE AND IT'S UNINTERESTING. >> Stephen: IT WOULD BE LIKED
ME ASKING DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE PLAYED KYLO REN IF YOU
NEVER USED THE FORCE? >> LIKE I'D NEVER BEEN IN SPACE. >> Stephen: YEAH. BUT IT DOES MAKE YOUR
HOMEWORK EASIER. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE
A PARENT TO PLAY A PARENT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT, OH, I
DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT WORK, NECESSARILY. IT DOES HELP BUT, AGAIN, IT'S
NOT FOR ME TO HAVE THE FEELING, IT'S FOR THE AUDIENCE TO GET THE
STORY. >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A
LITTLE BUILT OF A BREAK, BUT DON'T GO AWAY. WHEN WE COME BACK, I'LL ASK HIM
ABOUT THIS LITTLE ART HOUSE FILM CALLED "STAR WARS" COMING UP IN
DECEMBER. MORE WITH ADAM DRIVER COMING UP. STICK AROUND!