Abducted for Jesus (Ethics Documentary) | Real Stories

[Music] [Music] david was a spark he was talented he was just a good person and somebody that we all felt a connection to we couldn't understand why someone like this had been taken away from us it was so strange and surreal that it was like one one minute he was there at all these parties and then the next thing i knew i'm waking up and my best friend's gone we began to become suspicious because it just didn't seem consistent with how david had interacted with people he would always share what he was up to he was very excited about what he was doing it was kind of a shock because we weren't we weren't sure where he was what he was doing why he wasn't returning any of our calls and when it came around to school beginning and he wasn't there that's when we kind of realized that something might not be right one morning i woke up two guys were at my house they were woken up at six o'clock in the morning with escorts telling them you know they had five minutes to leave and they were just like hi ty you need to wake up and put clothes on you're going to a school in the dominican republic and i was like i don't think so both my parents were standing there you know saying we love you david we love you i was like what's going on and i was of course i was like you know that's not going to happen how could that happen to me i'm staying here and they're like no you have no choice you can do this the easy way or the hard way they tied a belt around my waist dragged me with a belt to their car we left on tuesday morning and left the house about eight o'clock got here about 11 00 at night we went through the airport they dragging me with a belt the entire time flew down to miami and then i finally figured out where we were going [Music] is [Music] jesus is calling each one of us here this morning father we here at escuela creepy we here at new horizons youth ministry will set out a structure and discipline that will help you understand how to live your life how to how to restructure and rediscipline this life that is in disarray but greater than that each of us sitting here this morning in this congregation can praise god that he has set it out and shown us the way so what is escuela curita bay when i have an opportunity to describe esquada career bay i tell them it's a christian therapeutic residential boarding facility now that's a long term for a place where kids that have just been in trouble can come and get their lives straightened out my name is beth and i have been here for about four months first name is ty i'm 16. and i've been here for a year a month and like 17 days my name is david i've been here for um it'll be six weeks on tuesday today is sunday my guess is if my parents have it their way i'll be going home in may or june we can take a child just so far but there's a spiritual aspect that god has to take over and it's those people that are not christian will not understand what i'm saying but does that do know that a spiritual transformation takes place when you do accept christ and what you never thought was possible in your life becomes possible tell me more about the founder gordon blossom pastor gordon blossom was a juvenile delinquent pastor himself was spent a time as a student as a teenager in star commonwealth which is a home for boys residential treatment and he really felt called to have a place in a foreign third world culture he believed that was an aspect of the therapy and it really is it's called cultures culture shock therapy taking a kid outside of the environment that they feel secure in and putting in them into another environment where the language is different the food is different the whole place is different is an aspect of the therapy that he felt was very significant you take a kid out of their normal environment and and you do get control usually by the time a parent gets to this point in their lives it's going to be pretty bad at home so by the time they're getting to the point where they feel they need to send their child away for 18 to 24 months they're usually ready to go at that time i got senior for a couple different reasons um i tend to tell myself that i'm just here for school except i'm not um i started having panic attacks in october for five and it got to be where i had like three a day end up in the hospital for whatever reason and i got because of that i got really frustrated with my school and like a couple times i would just like leave the school and they had to call the police to bring me back and and i also tried to kill myself when i was like 10 i was raped and um when i was like 11 my mom married without telling me or my brother i kind of started to not trust my family very much and just separate myself from them a lot and just find ways to let out my anger like lying and stealing and drugs and a lot of drugs and stuff like that and just guys basically i got sent down here because my parents and i didn't get along at all um i am gay and my parents they they just weren't okay with that they weren't willing to accept that fact my mom said something along the lines of i could never love a gay son and they were just basically finding any way possible to you know fix the problem change it and i was just always felt like i was rejected because i've always felt like it was a part of me oh bless this food to our bodies as well as the hands repaired it you name your prayer do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world thank you um i am on a self-harm support and so i people with a spoon and um at star house i couldn't be in the mud and by myself because there were chemicals and i can't be in the kitchen either so it's i've been on it before but um i'm working out i'm working to be off of it and stuff so like when i operate people's dishes and if they have a fork i can't pick it up i have to ask someone else if they would be willing to take it off the plate for me if you feel like you can't help yourself then we'll help you by taking away the things that could potentially harm you that's pretty much what the self-harm support is all about it still doesn't prevent them from themselves because their shoelaces belts all still there from every other girl but yeah may i step in the bedroom yeah morning routine you wake up you get your supplies you do your room job which consists of making your bed sweeping the floor that you're assigned to and doing your pa which is your personal area where you like where you keep all your clothes and stuff like that and making sure everything's inspection ready this collar has to be the length of half your pillowcase like that way and then from here to there that way all the corners have to be made with a 45 degree angle and we can't have anything in our backpacks either i've been looking forward to chucking this bed all week really you know oh it's on all right it's the first time in what two months but they should be um even like the hangars should be like evenly spaced and like all the buttons should be done what have you been using is soap [Music] yep it's a pretty good day i'll go to the four minutes okay this is gonna kill me right here that one can you explain the points and level system that could be like a five hour long explanation point sheets are filled up by supervising staff such as the house father and it determines the student's rank it's up to the house father to score the point sheet on a zero which is rebellion to five which is excellent scale over what um zero level restrictions there's no other way to say it but the zero level student you kind of they get treated like we'll say six-year-olds they have to be told or they have to ask what we want them to do for everything zero levelers are putting so much pain on the house so much pain on the house staff and just the other students in the house that a way to kind of show them the amount of pain they're putting on everybody else is to put a little bit of that type of pain on them they have to get a time in to use the bathroom they have a certain length of time that they can go they don't have many special privileges they do not get any free time whatsoever so they must be working the entire time generally to get on third or fourth level you have given in to the ministry and the expectations that we hold students accountable to i came here in when did i come the summer of of uh 79 and we had a level system at that time and the basic expectations responsibilities and the privileges of the level system have stayed the same those have not changed children's phone calls are recorded you wanted to know about the letters as well um the letters are most parents don't have a well none of the parents have had a problem with this they they agree to this um we will monitor the income incoming and out going mail for a time okay maybe we can sweep up yes yeah all right guys we're gonna have to bust down and sweep out we only have like five minutes left what else do i miss about home um the ability to um sit um buy a piano or a guitar and sing freely i miss being able to call my friends and say i'm having a really hard time right now um do you want to go talk about it over a cup of coffee at starbucks i don't have that anymore um i really miss my dog um [Music] and it's really i miss the old days like before my parents ever found out that i was gay 10 push-ups [Music] the latest session that i was in um had to do with um me giving out information to matt i was really worried about like a lot of my friends back home i asked him like you know could you make my friends aware so they know that like i didn't drop off the face of the air um i guess the contact and acting that like happened and i got a session it was the scariest thing in the world because like you go in there if you if i if i touch the door i touch the door they were just like tooth push-ups now they were like well you're in big trouble you know and i was so scared like my nervous reaction is to go like this a lot like i fiddle with my fingers and craig my group leader was like slap my head she's like get your hands away like get your hands away look at him straight tell me what happened get your hands away like i kept doing that like as a nurse reaction they were just like stop that two more push-ups two more push-ups get your hands away i had to basically come out to my group leader my teacher and um let my house father know what was going on it was probably the most humiliating moment for me opening up is a really difficult thing to do because i really have to put a face on that isn't me i have to hide behind that mask again of oh no i'm not gay i have to hide behind the mask of you know not being able to express who i am and it hurts it hurts a lot how do we deal with kids that come down and have homosexual issues or claimed to be even bisexual you know we really don't even look at that a lot of our of our kids have been hurt sexually by people and so many as we have gone through counseling have come to understand that the reason why they have enjoyed the same sex relationships is because they couldn't trust the other sex the whole issue is what's the deeper issue and you have to get to the root and then they see that oh i'm so glad many of our kids go i am so glad that i'm not a homosexual and i said well but you claimed you were when you came he said yes because because the sexual act felt good and i trusted that person but now i understand that god's given the sexual act you're supposed to feel in the sexual act it's just in the wrong context that i was doing it so homosexuality we really don't focus on that what kind of punishments have you gotten for panic attacks i've gotten punishments like usually i would just get six units which is either six squats 600 exercises or six hours of work but i don't usually like squats usually that's the last resort because i can only take five at a time and it's still it's pretty painful you have of course um work manual labor um exercises certain amount of exercises per something that was done wrong we do have um the swats or um that is a discipline we still use the paddle we used the paddle 30 years ago we still give push-ups we give push-ups 30 years ago you know they still run casitas here from the bottom from the gate to the top when they have a one or a zero on their point sheet from the day before they get for every one they have they get one casino if they get a zero they get two casitas but they can't run more than three in a day there's one right here there's one in the back too yeah a little hill in a couple of days though this one was a pretty big one about a week and a half ago but it's healed now so how did you feel about the run um tired upset my name is mary powell and i worked with new horizons ministries from march of 1991 to april of 1994. was there anything that you personally saw or knew was going on while you were staff that would be considered physical abuse um i didn't see it but i heard it especially like in the qr um qr is forbidden to talk about you're not allowed to talk about why you were there that's not something i've never heard i mean i wasn't even told not to say that but it's just one of those things you don't say you're in the room by yourself you get a mattress it's about that thick and as thick as a pillow and a blanket you'd hear there'd be four or five big guys staff members in there with a kid and there's just all like just you could just knew that the kid was being tossed around and slammed against and this is after you know a kid has probably been in there for days you know with not even like a sheet you know to cover up with depending on how insubordinate they were i would say to you that we all have our perceptions i would tell you that we are not a perfect organization and we definitely make mistakes there are things that have happened here and that will happen here in the future that shouldn't happen has there ever been anything here that has taken place that we wish we could change i would i would have to honestly state that there has been things that have taken place i wanted to know that he was safe but something in my my spirit knew that he wasn't safe and he wasn't in a good place the pieces started to fall together and finally there was communication that confirmed that he was actually had been taken out of the country one of my son's friends came back from the school he had been in the school and said he had seen david down there so we started by yes researching the school and trying to find out what the school was about and we formed started to form plans on how we could possibly get in touch with david we had weekly meetings with a group of us trying to figure out what we could do we really wanted to get him home for graduation do you get back in second yeah i'll be on second again as well i'll be able to talk to everybody but then again i made fairly bad points yesterday so i'll probably get my first point probation by next sunday [Music] so you guys still didn't hustle for you still not following her directions still not listening to her that's not okay that's not okay we're back at the house that's not okay now do you guys understand yes yes sir okay so you guys you give me ten squat thrusts uh beginner recovery i think it's funny because if any of my friends were here and they would see like these people just rolling in the mud they would probably cry with me right now because this is like the most excruciating gross nastiest thing do you know what's in this dude there's like cow poop horse poop all kinds of poop and then people put it on their face it's nasty at this point i hate my life i wish to tackle time [Music] [Applause] and like i always had like aspirations of going to college and stuff and like my parents just were never like i don't know honestly like i don't think they knew how to confront and stuff because like they're telling me like mr seabrook that i have all these problems that like i don't even with anxiety like i never really thought of myself as having an anxiety problem back at home like did you feel stressed out or like you had too much on your plate i'm just like god why did like you let this happen to me like my birthday will be five months exactly for me i'll be 18 by then i'm gonna turn and turn in 18 here's not all that much i know [Music] looking good okay this one you can be silly three you know parts of pico were like back home in colorado in the mountains and i used to do a lot of hiking with my dad and like four-wheeling with my dad in the mountains and it really like you know kind of brought me to the realization that like you know my dad isn't here and i'm not going to see him for a while and like i don't know him and i used to have a really good relationship and i guess like it just made me realize like you know how bad our relationship was and stuff so unfortunately the people that i really got to know are going to leave in like 15 days in august either going to marion or going going all the way back home so i'm just kind of stuck here this morning we have a lot of people here with a lot of different things on their minds you know we we got to recognize that we have great opportunity once again as we're gathered together to see what god's about in our lives how is it going to transform and change who you are are you willing to submit to god as your master follow me this is going to sound kind of shady but i kind of wrote like a letter i was just like oh finally i could give this like kate to give to angie or something but i just it feel it's so it's so crazy that she goes too and she's going to viola yeah because we'll definitely meet her and hopefully you'll love her to death you'll love her to death she's the one of the funniest people you'll ever meet so yeah what's up with this place uh we got inspected what usually happens during inspection is um mr uh anderson the home life director comes by and he basically checks the house um to see how clean it is um if he finds a bus he usually uh starts throwing stuff as what's happened in the room i got a couple shirts thrown in surprisingly my pa is not too bad so yeah now we're all just um in here to basically put everything away and fix all of our busts that we had into later [Music] yeah everybody's on the line oh okay sorry for keeping it yeah just jumping almost done um fantastic may i step in may i step in patience it's a virtue so it's something that i'm developing beth hot chips right now yes [Music] [Music] one two three mario cover like my parents are totally like hiding this that they're hiding the fact that like i'm here because of this like i think they're telling me they're like oh like he's studying in the dominican republic like you know like cool cool you know yeah which isn't entirely true and like yeah it is that but it's a lot more than that i think that it might be helpful yeah okay these are things that bother you and these are things that concern you but at some point i think it's important to step back and go why do these bother me so much i also feel like my parents like something here to like hide me just like from like being embarrassed so enjoy hiding for a little while i don't trust my parents like why should i trust like them sending me to this program so like why should i trust this program you know and like i'm really trying to like find trust not because like because i want my parents back like really bad so just like i'm trying my hardest just like you know trust in the program and stuff and like every day like i'm just like she's like i wish i could talk to my parents i think there's value in taking time out we need discipline we need guidance we need that black and white um expression i think we need that and one thing i'm going to try to do more is be more black and white because i think that does help increase security and alleviate anxiety i think that's a plus yeah we have plenty of time to get relation with all that garbage back home i had last semester a 4.3 gpa i mean i had everything going for me i was trying to get theater scholarships and i can't have that anymore i was trying to get um an international baccalaureate diploma that's gone basically everything that i've been working for for three years and high school is gone so i'm facing a lot of disappointment i i honestly think there's some there's got to be some kind of law against holding you here past the age of 18 because although we are in the dominican republic this is a u.s establishment i am a u.s citizen i should be free by my 18th birthday but no right now like i just feel so open but like it's so hard because i feel like i'm being forced into a ball and psychologically it's not gonna be good for me i i feel like i am going to need some major counseling once i get out of here i feel like i'm going to lose my mind here i feel like i'm going to like i'm just going to crack and i'm just not going to be able to go any further and it's just so like so hard for me like i mean so many things run through my mind i don't i don't sleep i mean like right now i just i'm just thinking like every little way of getting out of here but then again i'm just like god you put me here i'm trying to trust you [Music] you live monday morning are you serious it's true that's so sad who am i gonna run away from my house breaks i don't know that's so sad if you could say something to your closest friend what would it be to um my closest friend um okay angie um i had a lot of fun with you the day before i left going to all the graduation parties with you and um it really meant a lot to me and um just thanks for all the good times and the the trips down to denver i mean like this is probably last year's probably the best year of my life with her so that's about it [Music] angie this may come off as a shock to you but our worst fears have come true i'm currently in the dominican republic at a school called escuela caribe and jarrah bakoa i don't know why i alarm you i don't want to alarm you so i will try to lighten things up rusty your willard needs rescuing this letter is seen by staff here i will receive a due penalty including swats yeah what does that mean like one of the punishments would be there sometimes the swats which is basically like getting a spanking with like a wooden paddle or a leather strap seriously oh my gosh i'm entrusting kate with this to get to you safely i need a lot of help so please please please if you can get me home they want to hold me here for over a year i've been here for about a month and a half and i've already begun to lose my mind i beg you to please let your mom know and use all the power you and your mom and your dad and your sister and to free me and you please pray for me for strength please bring me home mom the letter came and that was real powerful for me that that was when i decided that you know for sending people down there i'm going to be one that goes down there you know the planning was probably a really good thing to have to occupy at the time i mean that he wasn't 18 yet because it let us plan some more so i think looking into the school trying to make contact with the school trying to understand um who they were and how they held students what they did money was raised and put together for two members of the group to actually go down to the dominican republic we recognized we were probably going to get one shot at going on to the campus and demanding his release and so there were times spent um for the couple days in advance trying to be sure everything was lined up as best we could yeah okay i marked this doug lyons uh we're uh uh we're at the base of the hill here so i guess if you want to call david and tell them we're coming we arrived at the school and doug and i went on to the campus and were allowed on and were brought to an office to sit down and meet with school personnel and we presented um what we were there for then we presented the letter and said we're we want david out of here game's over it's done you're this is he's 18. he's gonna come home and this guy we were talking to his whole demeanor changed he started sweating bullets i mean he had perspiration all over his forehead instantaneously and from there you could tell that um a lot of activity was going on in other parts of the of the office people were concerned there were phone calls being made we were told that he wasn't there and that we wouldn't be able to see him and they were trying to push us out and and mark was being way more persistent than i was about staying there um it became clear after a while that we were not going to leave the campus with them that we weren't going to be granted the access no matter what we had tried and that we were going to be asked to leave there was work done to get a judge to issue an order that said david had to appear in the united states because the embassy wouldn't force escuela crebe to release david we had a u.s judge issue a writ of habeas corpus which is designed to free those who are unlawfully detained it was december because i remember there was snow on the ground and my phone my phone rang at two in the morning maybe and i answered it and it was a whisper with my name like hello and hearing his voice was it like like the best thing ever and i remember just screaming like darting into my mom's room like bawling my eyes out you know telling her that it was him and we when we were on the phone we decided to meet at starbucks the next morning so angie just got a call from one of david's friends and he's in the starbucks i don't know why he didn't call angie but i think he might be in here what's what are you guys doing here i'm not sure if i can even talk to you i think guys just want to go home we didn't call and when i found him he didn't want to talk i really hope that he's been fed a lot of lies and i really hope that he has no idea how much everybody has been stressing over this and praying over this and like losing sleep over this and like spending so much time on this i think i've ever been this devastated before it's like i'm heartbroken but i'm mad and i'm like devastated but i'm like i don't know i'm furious i just come on guys [Applause] i think about the dominican all the time i i talk about it probably at least maybe once a week um my co-workers all know about it my friends all know about it my family all know about it i was there 17 months to the day did you graduate down there yes i graduated high school down there when i first got back it was definitely awkward for me i had lost a lot of friends a lot of people didn't know didn't really remember me didn't know where i'd gone or why and i didn't really want to talk about it i didn't want to say where i went or explain what i'd been through because people wouldn't understand probably one of the worst things down there was the qr um i'm definitely claustrophobic and so being in a five by ten room with the doors locked was definitely very frightening granted i wasn't in there all day a lot of the days i was either outside scrubbing walls or doing manual work but that was probably the worst part of my experience i still get nightmares i still got nightmares about weeks of pico and you know about getting swats and about you know having to run casitas until i was coughing blood i i get nightmares about that i do still think about those things you can't really forget those things now when i think about the dominican i don't think about the negative i mean i might think about all the swats that i got because i got a lot i don't think about all of the push-ups i got a lot i think of all the positive stuff sometimes i think in the negative stuff but it's a part of me as part of my experience i am angry i am angry at a lot of the staff members who watch things happen to not only me but other students and not do anything about it and think that it's okay a lot of it was just so broken and not wanting to be in pain anymore and to be have to deal with the punishments i do miss it i miss like the structure i like structure they didn't just walk up to me and pick me out of a crowd and say bend over i'm giving you 10 squats for no reason it's because i messed up the whole focus there the whole brainwashing and trying to conform and making have being forced to be somebody that you're not just because you're different it's crazy how they would twist the words of the bible just to make their selves sound make what they were doing sound legit other students that went there whether it's for drug or alcohol they were already out doing what they wanted they didn't care they didn't want help whereas me you know i wanted the treatment i wanted the help we just didn't know what else to do i needed to do and i wanted to do whatever i could to get out of there so if that means if that means saying that i'm born again or whatever they wanted me to do then i'll do it if that means i need to sing then i'll do it if that means i gotta you know run this casita so many times or you know take these paddles i'll do it as far as i'm concerned escuena caribe is what saved my life it definitely hurts me to hear people say negative things about that place because like i said it did save my life but however i don't know what happened behind closed doors what got me through the whole situation was knowing that at the end of the day what they were doing was not right i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy i wouldn't not a day so really excited things were okay and i finished out my senior year at west yeah i know it's cool to graduate it was so nice oh my god [Music] for this six weeks before i came back um the school had prefaced me with the fact that you know this film is going to harm everything and my dad said he hired a lawyer and was ready to um you know fight everything that had happened so yeah i don't remember what exactly i said if it was like i don't know if i can talk to you right because i was so nervous surprised and also just like i don't know if i'm gonna get in legal trouble for this because of the action that my dad was ready to take it was so it was so overwhelming and i i remember seeing the footage of you like being so upset afterwards and i knew that like this wasn't right i just immediately got attacked with feelings of like what did his parents tell him like you know and i was i just had all these thoughts of like they told them maybe he they told him like angie wants you to be here you know she got she she was she's excited she hates you like i didn't know like what had been said or if anyone else or the school was like there's this girl and you know you can't be friends with her ever again and i was just like i just like at that moment i was like i'm losing like one of my best friends love you guys had for me while i was there definitely helped me with all the feelings of rejection and hate from all the staff even though they called it this other type of love which is sick um it kept me going like when you think about it and you think about like all the things that you've gone through and then like where you are now i just really also want to have something for other kids that have been institutionalized in a similar program anywhere i've recently learned that there are thousands hundreds if not thousands of programs like this that are forcing kids to conform and breaking down their mindset and they're just kids i'm just so proud of you i know that god is so proud of you thank you i just love you so much i love you too [Music] in order to improve the standard of care in this industry it's important to consistently shed light on the urgent need for reform community events are instrumental in that effort hopefully with continued advocacy and increased public awareness all residential programs will be free of abusive practices parents will be empowered to make safe choices for their children and children will receive the services they need to be healthy sincerely congressman george miller senior democrat california say this just to let you know that while i can never understand what you've been through because i've never been in these centers i do know what it's like to be afraid [Applause] [Music] there's no way that you can count them because there's no government regulation [Music] i mean this kind of thing i knew went on in north korea i knew it went on the former soviet union i was shocked to see that right here in the united states of america good old american kids who've done nothing wrong are getting tortured sexually abused and a lot of times unfortunately because their parents are tricked into sending these kids to these places it's been five and a half years and i'm just you know coming to my parents about this and telling them that i feel like it wasn't okay that i got sent away it took me that long and this is just the beginning to this healing process of in understanding and it's gonna take a while [Music] do i call myself a christian no because today being a christian means so many different things so what do you believe in now what do i believe in now [Music] i believe in love [Music] they were living in hell what we were doing was wrong it did not help them and we need to answer for that somebody's got to answer for that [Music] you

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Length: 50min 59sec (3059 seconds)

Published: Sat Aug 29 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/cdm2300]

I was sent to a similar place called miracle meadows in West Virginia. Shit down now for abuse among many other things. A girl drank dish soap so she could go to the hospital and tell someone in authority.

[u/chroma900]

It’s wild to see this here. While on vacation in Jarabacoa in early 2014, I met one of the youth ministers of this school during a hike. He seemed friendly and enthusiastic about his job, and suggested I apply for a position given my psychology background. I remember feeling shock upon reading the school’s wikipedia page later that day. I didn’t reach back out.

[u/dane332]

This documentary happened years ago anyone know what happened to any of these people?

[u/Mattheworbit]

:’(. I wish I could just fly in, save the kids, give them big hugs; and leave the school in a pile of ashes.

[u/l33tperson]

This is a disturbing example of abuse of power. By the parents. By the institution. And by the investors who make money out of misery. Because you can be sure that there is a fat rich dude who's raking in money from this. He probably lives in florida and just leaves the place to run itself. Yes, the founder was mental and a sadist. But someone funded the project and is raking in the money. We'll never know who that is. The place needs to be shut down. The so called teachers prosecuted, but the owners and investers need to be held accountable too. This is a money machine.

[u/zerowastejourney]

My big sister got sent to a place like this in Kansas and it was horrible. They beat her. They watch her shower. They treated her like a prisoner. She was only there for a couple of months but some girls had been there for years. I remember one girl’s parents had died and the family member who got custody sent her there as a way to get her out the house. This girl did nothing wrong but was trapped in one of these places for 5 years. It’s fucking disgusting that we let this happen.

[u/crimsongull]

Are you upset by what you see and read? Then do something about it by watching your conservative and fundamentalists churches in your area for posting seminars, talks, programs, series, bible study with a ‘gay conversion’ therapy theme. (They will never use the words) Then sign up and peacefully disrupt the meeting. Get organized with like minded friends and allies, keep your powder dry, wait for the announcements to pop up and go get the fools. There is a traveling industry of ‘former’ gay ministers and counselors that travel the country. Track them and inform other groups. Publicly shame these churches. It works. I’ve done it. Save a kids life and get in some good trouble

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck any parents who subjects their kids to this shit and similar outfits

[u/Looking4Maria]

That's depressing