A Conversation with Judge Amy Coney Barrett '97 J.D. (Full Interview)

coming tonight my name is John Heinz I'm the class of 2009 in law school class of 2014 and I will be introducing our guests this evening before we get started I just want to thank Jones day for offering us this beautiful space especially all the staff who have stayed late to accommodate us and particular I'd like to thank Dana clappers who has done a lot of work pulling uh various pieces together correcting my many missteps along the way so Dana the Alumni Club is grateful for all your hard work but also like to thank lea hockey and the leadership of the Notre Dame Club of Washington DC for embracing this event and for all their hard work organizing as well there are some exciting alumni events coming up on March 25th there will be a screening of the father Hesburgh documentary God country Notre Dame at the E Street cinema and on May 24th his Universal Notre Dame night and the DC alumni Club will be hosting father monk Malloy past president of the University this is a good time to plug dues-paying members of alumni clubs the DC Club in particular does a lot of great events like these supports local students with scholarships and so if you're someone who's you know your membership is maybe lapsed or you're on the fence about you know wanting to to become an official dues-paying member we really encourage you to participate it's a it's a great way to get involved and support all the great things that the club does one final housekeeping item the the bar will be closed during the event as I said it will reopen for about a half an hour after the program is over and then we but we do need to be out of this room by 8:30 p.m. there's break down for an event that will be taking place in the morning so please you know try to to keep to that 8:30 okay now where are my guests okay you guys can come on up our moderator this evening is Meghan Wald Meghan is an Ohio native and a graduate of Ohio Wesleyan University and the Notre Dame Law School where she graduated summa laude after law school Meghan served as a Karass fellow with the Ohio Attorney General's Office and then as a law clerk to Judge Jeffrey satin the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and Justice Samuel Alito of the United States Supreme Court despite her strong Ohio roots and Notre Dame ties Megan somehow did not end up at Jones Day she she is currently a partner in the appellate litigation group at Kirkland in Ellis Megan thank you for joining us our special guest this evening is Judge Amy Barrett judge Baird is an native of New Orleans Louisiana a graduate of Rhodes College and of course Notre Dame Law School where she received the William J Hoynes prize for finishing first in her class judge Baird is no stranger to Washington DC after graduating law school she served as a law clerk to judge Lawrence Silverman the United States Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit and the late Justice Antonin Scalia the United States Supreme Court she stayed in Washington for a short while after her clerkships first in private practice and then as a fellow at the George Washington University Law School in 2002 Judge Barrett returned to Notre Dame as a full-time member of the law school faculty in 2014 she was honored with the Diane & mo Miller Research Chair of law and she was named professor of the Year in 2010 and 2016 for any aspiring law professors out there don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't show clips of my cousin Vinnie during your evidence lectures and still be an award-winning professor in May 2017 the president nominated judge Berra to serve on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit she was confirmed by the Senate and received her Commission on November 2nd 2017 judge Barrett's chambers are in South Bend where she and her husband Jessie live with their seven children so please join me in welcoming Judge Barrett and Meghan Wald judge Barrett as I think that introduction amply demonstrates you are without a doubt among the most gifted lawyers of your generation and when I talk to someone like you I'm always curious when and how that person came to know what lawyers are and what they do for me I have a distinct memory of watching the Rainmaker with my dad on baking when I was in grade school which is probably not the best introduction as to an accurate depiction of our profession but it was my introduction what is your earliest memory of knowing or thinking that you know what it is that lawyers do did you grow up in a family of lawyers or did you encounter it someplace else well my dad is a lawyer my mom before before my mom had me she was a high school French teacher and in my mind I thought the two coolest things to be would be a high school French teacher or English teacher or a lawyer but I was heavily leaning towards high school teacher not law until later in the game but it was my dad who kind of showed me what it was to be a lawyer that's great now you grew up in New Orleans my passing familiarity with New Orleans and my subscription to garden and gun magazine tells me that when someone in New Orleans asks where did you go to school they mean where did you go to high school so in the New Orleans sense where did you go to school that is very true neurons one of the things that I love about New Orleans is that people tend to stay there for generations so my great-great grandparents had come to New Orleans from France and then family stayed for generations thereafter so I went to high school at st. Mary's Dominican High School which is where my grandmother and my mother and all of my aunt's and my sisters and my nieces it's an all-girls school my nieces who are being raised in New Orleans I'm sure will go one day too that's incredible what were those years like for you and during high school you know I loved the high school that I attended I loved being at an all-girls school it was really I think freeing and you know we just I formed really close friendships we could be very competitive with one another academically there was just just a lot of freedom I was actually recently back at my high school last summer for an event for an alumni event and I was sad I mean my kids are in a great situation in South Bend and we love it but I was sad actually that my daughter's couldn't attend the high school that I attended because I didn't have such great great memories and great experiences there some of my closest friends yeah was there a particular person any mentor that had a special impact on you during those years um you know there were several teachers who took a special interest in me in high school and when I was back last summer I saw several of them I think that when a teacher pays special attention and singles a student out just pursues the student and builds a relationship I think it can have a big impact on the students life and I saw several of these teachers some of them were nuns some of them were not many of them are still in the Faculty of the school and it was great to see them so I would say there were three or four who really took a very special interest in me and kept up with me over the years wonderful after attending st. Mary's Dominican High School you went on to study at Rhodes College in Memphis Tennessee to those of us who are less acquainted with the South Memphis and New Orleans might seem awfully similar that they're both southern cities with cultures that are centered on food and music was that change in geography significant to you as a native native of New Orleans well I would say that New Orleans and Memphis have some similarities but they definitely have very distinct personalities too Memphis was attractive to me I'm the oldest of seven children and you know my parents had a lot of private school tuitions that they were pairing around the time that I went off to college and I also didn't want to go too far away because my family was very close-knit both my immediate a family and extend family and so I got a really good scholarship to Rhodes and it was driving distance it was six hours and I was a city you know in which I felt comfortable and it was a liberal arts school I was never destined for the sciences or math so liberal arts was the perfect fit for me I share that sentiment about science and math and you studied English at Rhodes why is that you know I love ever since I was a little girl I've loved to read and write and you know being an English major allowed me to do that I minored in French in part because of that high school French teacher mom you know that I had but it was it was interesting I got my I had an a-minus in French and I was pretty upset about that I wasn't that a - and French so I decided to minor in it to try to conquer it and when my one of my French professors wrote me a recommendation for a study abroad program he wrote speaks French with strong southeastern Louisiana accent so I don't know that it was ever I mean I managed to become somewhat fluent but I don't think I would have ever passed for a native so I majored in English and minored in French and did you have any mentors while you were at Rhodes and if so what were the particular qualities of that mentor that made the relationship significant to you I had a number of faculty in the English department that I grew close to and there was one woman in particular Jennifer Brady she taught I took every class that she taught I loved her and what was significant about her in my life is when I was a freshman I took a class that she taught on the novel of manners and I had to give a presentation on breakfast at tiffany's and it was primarily and junior and senior class so I was one of the you know newest youngest dudes I think I was a first semester freshman I was very intimidated I did this presentation and I you know was sure that it had gone awfully but she sought me out afterwards and she liked what I had done and she encouraged me and I think that's what mentoring is I think taking the time to reach out to someone to talk to someone she encouraged me became a mentor and then at graduation she gave me the collected works of Truman Capote because she remembered from the first class kind of what the connection between us had been the sort of pivot point of a young person's life as you were graduating from Rhodes and moving on you decided to pursue a law degree but you mentioned earlier that your first inclination had been more toward English or teaching so what what made the difference what changed when I was a senior I can distinctly remember being in my dorm room thinking about it you know I I took both the GRE and the LSAT and I was thinking of going on I decided not I wasn't pursuing high school teaching at that point I was thinking that I would pursue a PhD in English and maybe be a professor university professor and an English department and I also thought about law school it went back and forth and made pro/con lists and thought about it and ultimately I liked that law would acquit me more to make and I feel terrible of saying this because I just finished saying how my English professor had such a big impact on my life but I liked the way that law would enable me to do the reading and writing that I loved but also be kind of involved and real-world things in in real world policy and and shaping of society in a more direct way then I thought teaching English literature would and then you made a decision that everyone in this room can relate to you decided to go to Notre Dame so what brought you to South Bend Indiana why Notre Dame so I am a Catholic and I always grew up loving Notre Dame you know what Catholic doesn't and when I decided to go to law school I really wanted to choose a place where I felt like I was not going to be just educated as a lawyer but I wanted to be in a place where I felt like I would be developed and inspired as a whole person and I think what better place than Notre Dame for that so I mean I I feel like I got an excellent legal education but I also feel like I learned you know I think that that Notre Dame likes to say that we educate a different kind of lawyer and I think that the law school really tries to do that and that was my experience there that it was more about just learning a profession and also about learning to be a good person and you came to Notre Dame just in time to see the decline of the Lou Holtz years did you did you go to many football games were you a fan I did I went to all the football games standing in the the student section I prefer sitting now but yeah I did and you know that's such a fun part of the Notre Dame experience and knowing all the cheers and and all that and during your time on campus were there any particular innovations or things you remember I think for a lot of us we have this experience of going back and there's always something new a new law school the hockey arena that Eddy Street Commons this type of thing was a was that something that you remember from your time there no I think you know if there were probably some dorms that were going up around I graduated from law school in 1997 but I've been back as a faculty member since 2002 and the real explosion of buildings has been more recent I mean when I when I started law school there wasn't even a Starbucks since I've been practically still have now and as you mentioned you had been a student at Notre Dame and now had returned as a professor later in life are there any differences that you observed during that time at Notre Dame at no changes then and now well certainly our facilities are much nicer so the law school for those of you who haven't seen it back at campus the law school has a beautiful beautiful new building which is now one of the nicest law schools really in the country so the facilities are certainly much improved from the time when I was a student but we've retained the older building that has a lot of their traditional architecture so the renovation of that building is beautiful as well I think that there are changes in the faculty that are different when I when I was a student I couldn't say what the percentage of male and female students are but male students definitely outstripped female students I mean percentages were not even and on the faculty they were not many women I can think of one I can think of two women one who taught contracts and one who was a legal writing instructor but otherwise my professors were all male so occasionally we had a visiting professor come in and I would say that when I was a student I thought that the class was a little bit tough on some of the female visitors that we head in and I was nervous when I came back and joined the faculty as a woman I was probably about 30 and so some of my students were close in age to me so I wore my glasses when I taught to try to look very imposing and more women had joined the faculty since then by the time I was there and and now that's even more true you know now we have a number of really really great and prominent women on the faculty and I think that the faculty and the the balance and the presence of women both in the student body and on the faculty has really changed quite a bit no not having had many female professors during law school you probably didn't have an example of exactly how to do that in the classroom you mentioned a couple of things but now with experience under your belt as a professor what is your philosophy of teaching or how how do you approach your time in the classroom I really like teaching I loved it when I started and I'm very happy that Notre Dame has let me stick around I still teach a seminar a semester and I've gotten to keep my office in the building I think that's teaching as a give and take I try and many of my former students are here tonight so you know hopefully hopefully you agree that I did this okay I try not to ever say what I think you know I like to let students draw their own conclusions so I think it's important to give students a mastery of the material I don't want to hide the ball and with the substances of the law of the classes that you know I'm teaching so I try to be very clear about the substance and then when we talk about the deeper questions I think it's really important for a professor to leave students free draw their own conclusions and to not try to just shove their worldview or shove what they think and so that there's much more of a give-and-take and that's what I've tried to do in my classes really from the outset and after law school you went on to clerk for two significant jurists judge Silberman and Justice Scalia I think of both of them as being known as particularly expressive people when it came to writing in particular how were they different in terms of their style or their approach Oh in some ways I think Judge Silberman was a little bit more casual and and if I could say it that way then Justice Scalia but they both were just excellent writers so I learned a lot from both of them Judge Silberman wasn't as distasteful of legislative history as Justice Scalia was and they had some differences in that regard but I was very fortunate to have the chance to learn from two men who were great lawyers great writers great judges and now as a judge herself you have the opportunity to hire your own clerks and I suppose for those non lawyers in the room the relationship between clerks and judges is very particular eyes to the profession it's sort of a mentoring relationship and probably unusual among professions that you see individuals so soon from coming from their education people fresh out of law school working for people who are at the peak of their profession working directly and in close quarters as you look for clerks or have the experience of hiring them now what do you what do you think are great qualities to look for in a clerk or important ingredients of the clerkship experience so for those of you who aren't lawyers in the room usually a judge will have four clerks as the number that I have and so you work very closely with your clerks throughout the day and it's a one-year it's kind of it's it's it's almost like a postdoc it's a one-year experience for the law clerks and obviously for the judge and the volume of work on the Court of Appeals is high and so obviously for a judge having lawyers young lawyers who are really smart and really good writers is very very helpful to my work and you know I once heard a judge say before I was on the bench myself that the difference between having a really good law clerk and just an okay law clerk can be translated in two hours a day that you have with your children and I have seven of them so I need hours with my children so having clerks that can stay you know stay on top of things and help me be ready for hearing argument and to spot issues and to turn research around quickly it's really important so it goes without saying that having law clerks who are very able as important but you know as I said about when I chose no name I chose Notre Dame because I wanted to not just be educated with excellence but I also wanted to be around people who could inspire me to be a better person and so I hope that that is the experience that my law clerks will have I mean I I like in chambers I want my law clerks to like each other I want them to not just come and feel like it's a professional experience only but to come and feel like they're in a place where they like to be where the dynamic is good between between the law clerks and one another and then the law clerks who have gone before them and who will come after them so that they have a network of people who are you know trying to do good and and be good and be excellent that's great Justice Scalia specifically was known for his wit and his humor it seems to be a mark of many grateful men and women that their intellectual rigor is matched by their capacity for humor and laughter what were some things in your experience that made Justice Scalia laugh so he laughed a lot he did have a great sense of humor once so Justice Scalia famously really liked to hunt and the justices divided up the country by circuits and each justices is in charge of a particular circuit and Justice Scalia was responsible for the fifth circuit which includes Louisiana my home state sportsman's paradise as the saying goes and also Texas and Mississippi all all places where there was hunting to be had so he went on a hunting trip one time and he came and he was very proud of a picture of him in camo with a gun holding a wild turkey that he had killed by the feet and he showed us this picture and one of my co clerks took the picture and had it made into a mousepad and we each got one so I still have my mousepad I slipped it on to the justices desk and then just waited and we had the office that was right outside of the justices at that point and he was really nervous because he wasn't sure if this was going to go over well or whether the justice was gonna be upset that he stole the picture and had it made into a mousepad but the justice just hadn't gone to his computer yet when he saw and he had his big bellowing laugh kind of chambers and yeah he thought it was very funny so that's a fun moment memory that I have from that year and many of us in the room might be familiar with Justice Scalia's jurisprudence certainly with his reputation but you you knew him personally is there anything that you learned from Justice Scalia or that you remember about him that is an everyday insight that you continue to think about today he was very rigorous there was nothing really more intimidating I think that I have experienced you know before her since then being in the room getting him ready for oral argument and just having to be ready to answer questions about a case so he was he didn't slack up he was always very rigorous in his preparation and he always was who he was I mean he was a man of faith he was a family man he had a large family and you know he was he took a lot of criticism from many quarters for the values that he had and the choices that he made and you know his Catholicism and his faith and you know he just he had the strength to be who he was how and when did you meet your husband Jesse I met Jesse when we were in law school he's a double donor so we met in law school at Notre Dame and he had also got gone to Notre Dame undergrad and then we got married in 1999 wonderful and you mentioned that you have seven children can you tell me about them we do it's it's funny when we got jessie is an only child I always wanted a big family I loved you know growing I'm the oldest of twenty-nine grandchildren as well the seven children in my family so I loved having a big family I wanted to have a big family and he did too because he felt very lonely as an only child so he really wanted a big family too we started out actually saying seven but then with each child we had and we realized how much work it was we started scaling back but then we bumped it back up so we have we have seven our oldest emma is a senior in high school so she's gotten into Notre Dame so you know we'll see what she decides then we have tests and Vivian are both freshmen in high school and then our son John Peters and fifth grade Liam's in fourth grade Juliet is in second grade and Benjamin is in first grade that's a full house I should say so and two of your children you're adopted from Haiti why didn't you and Jesse decide to adopt um when Jesse night we got married when we were living in DC we were actually living in Northern Virginia and when we did our marriage preparation with the priest at the parish that we were attending at the time he had us meet with another young couple in the parish is just part they were a young married couple just as part of the pre-cana prep and this couple had adopted a special-needs child and it made a big impact on us and then we also knew another couple who had adopted some children from Russia and so when we were engaged we talked about it and said you know I think that's something that we'd really like to do one day and we had our daughter Emma and then we adopted Vivian we we knew that we wanted to adopt internationally the wait for domestic adoption was just very very long and there were so many children in need and we researched and Haiti is you know one of the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere and it's close enough to the United States that we could go as a family and be involved in Haiti as the children got older so we chose Haiti and Vivian came home to us when she was 14 months old so we had Emma and then we had our daughter Tess Tess and Vivian are both freshman in high school and we call them our very fraternal twins Vivian is amazing she was 14 months old when she came home and she couldn't make any sounds at that point nor could she pull herself up to a standing position and she was wearing size 0 to 3 months clothing because she just was so malnourished and at the time they told us they just weren't sure whether she would speak she just hadn't been she's been so sick she hadn't had a lot of practice making sounds and she hadn't been spoken to a lot although she was in a wonderful orphanage the nannies their love to the children immensely but she also had she was just weak and she had rickets so her legs were kind of bowed out Vivian is incredibly athletic now and trust me the speech hasn't been a problem so she really it's amazing I was looking at her the other day she works out at a CrossFit gym and she's very proud I mean she's incredibly strong she just walked in and started doing pull-ups it's it's quite it's quite something so she's very strong and I was looking at her the other day at the gym and just thinking what a miracle it is you know how strong she's become so we have the three older girls and then we had our son Liam and we wanted to adopt another from Haiti so we were in the process of adopting our son John Peter and there were a number of paperwork snafus and it looked like it wasn't going to happen and then they told us it wasn't going to happen because of paperwork things had just gone south and so mentally and emotionally we had closed that door Liam was about nine months old at that point ten months I remember it was right around December and I thought to myself we should just cut that paperwork just kind of pull it out and bring it to a close because they've told us that it's not so we might as well just not have that loose end hanging out there but christmas came we didn't do anything about it and then in January there was the devastating earthquake in Haiti and the adoption agency called us and said any child who had an adoption in progress at the time that the earthquake happened the State Department will lift some of the paperwork requirements that were keeping in the country so are you still willing to take him so he said of course they said well we're not we're not sure that we'll be able to get him out we'll see everything was very fluid at that point so we actually had wanted more children after our son Liam was born but for variety reasons we weren't sure that would happen and Jessie was on the phone with the adoption agency working out the logistics to go pick up John Peter and Florida I just wasn't really feeling that great turned out Juliet was gonna be coming along that year so we had an intense three-hour period where we had to decide where we gonna go forward with going to get John Peter in Florida because we discovered that Juliet was gonna be coming that year too like we had really wanted five but now it was kind of like five and six so I threw my coat on we live very close to campus I threw my coat on and it was January so you those of you were from South Bend or lived in South Bend know the weather I walked up to the cemetery on campus and I just sat out on one of the benches and I just thought okay well if life's really hard at least it's short [Laughter] but I thought like what what greater thing can you do than raise children you know just that's where you have your greatest impact on the world so you know we jesse was in Florida within a few days bringing John Peter home he was 3 when they stepped out of the car they flew from Orlando to Midway and when they stepped out of the car in Chicago poor John Peter the look of shock on his face the snow and the cold because like he looked at my husband where have you brought me but it's great and then Benjamin you know came along after that and it's it's a very full life but a very wonderful that's beautiful and jesse is also a lawyer so what is it like to be married to another lawyer and perhaps even more importantly what is it like for your kids we don't see it because it's just how we talk I have had the experience of having friends come over and hear my children say things to each other and say like oh so that's how kids of lawyers talk like but I think that they think that jesse is much cooler than I am which he is in every way but my husband he's now in private practice but for many many years he was a federal prosecutor so his dinnertime stories of what he was doing at the office we're much more entertaining for them than mine so he had one of his last cases that he prosecuted was an arson case and boy my son's just thought you know I'm figuring out the details of that and how daddy was putting the bad guys away that they really enjoyed that I think everyone from sheryl sandberg to my mother-in-law has a theory about how women can balance family life with their careers what is your theory how does the Barrett family manage with two successful parents who were both in demanding jobs both in a demanding I think I have an awesome husband so I don't think that I really foresaw or that he did either what would be required and we weren't we were open to either one of us staying home you know at different points when things were intense with the children but I think what's really made it work is that it's very much a team effort you know and in fact right now just because I'm in a job that is still new to me and I'm still on a learning curve so Jesse's really doing much more of the heavy lifting right now I mean he's doing you know he's doing most of the cooking and he's doing most of the kids doctor's appointments and things like that during the day so we've we've gone in cycles and right now this is kind of his cycle where he's doing a little bit more of the home stuff I think living in South Bend and being at Notre Dame for so many years was also really helpful I mean South Bend is a small city so it's been easy you know I can leave chambers I was in my daughter Juliet's classroom running centres the other day so I could zip over from chambers go into her classroom run you know the Valentine's Day Center and then go back to chambers and it didn't take that much time so I think the city that we've lived in the support you know of the community I mean Notre Dame when Emma was little and I first joined the faculty I kept a basket of toys in my office and so I could bring Emma to work with me and you know she would play with the toys and sometimes I had student meetings different I never was in this position but some of my female colleagues were able to bring babies to faculty meetings so I think you know having the flexibility of a flexible workplace and a husband that pitches in and a town of a manageable size and great we had a great childcare situation we really did my husband's aunt has watched our children since Emma was little so for almost almost 16 years we've had you know consistent childcare in the home and that's been really what's made it possible when you distill a person's life down into these accolades and milestones a sort of list of things it can often look from the outside like everything was destined or went perfectly according to plan when you think back to your life up to this point has the plan always seemed obvious to you the way it might appear to us on the outside no I mean I I went to law school but when Jesse and I got married and we were here I loved practicing at the law firm when I had Emma and I was at GW doing a fellowship thinking about going the academic route I was very on the fence because I had had my first baby and I felt terribly guilty leaving her and childcare to go into work and I thought should I stay home with her so I had a lot of soul-searching conversations with Jessie and we thought about what I stay home with her would I work we ended up I was offered and obviously accepted the job at Notre Dame and we moved to South Bend but I felt a lot of anxiety about whether I was doing the best thing you know being away from Emma and then when Tessa and Vivian came along who were next in line I didn't know I didn't have a plan things kind of unfolded and we evaluated at every step whether things were working well for the family for the job that I was in and I thought about should I cut back should I be part-time should i be full-time and so we just constantly evaluated but it was always working and it worked well the kids were very happy I loved teaching I loved being in you know I loved doing that I was very happy and that the judge thing was really out of the blue I mean that wasn't something that I I'm still surprised that I'm not you know just a hundred percent full time faculty member now we see that women are matriculating in law schools and even greater numbers than men and a lot has been written about the need to include women in greater numbers on litigation teams and firm leadership on the bench at the federal level and at the state level how have you seen the legal profession change women have been entering in these increasing numbers I think the flexibility I mean you told me that you were in a six-month maternity leave that's great I think as women are more present in law schools as more women go to law school as more women around faculties and hour out law firms then I think then the workplace bends to be more flexible as women seek those accommodations and so I think you know being able to take your child to a faculty meeting when you need to having toys and the office having leave policies that make it possible to work or flex policies that make it possible to return to work I think all of those I see so many more options for women now in that regard then I did when I was a young lawyer and I think it's great you've had a lot of student support particularly for your nomination to the bench and there was in particular a lot of recognition of the role that you played on campus as a mentor and as you've discussed here tonight you had some very important mentors in your life what do you think makes for a good role model and what traits do young professionals and students need to see manifested in their role models oh I hate to think of myself as like a role model but they describe myself as a mentor because as a professor and you know now as a boss I think I have a responsibility I've long had a responsibility as a teacher to be a mentor and I think that's about time spent so that English professor that I had in college had an effect on my life because she took the time to talk to me after class and to encourage me and to meet with me and I think that's what's important about being a mentor and so that's what I've tried to do with students is to talk to them I still talk to students students will still call about career changes that they're making or sometimes personal decisions that they have to make and so I hope that I lay the groundwork with students when I'm teaching them and the students that I continue to teach in the law clerks that now have well enough so that they feel free to still view me as a mentor even after they're outside of my classroom or outside of my chambers was I think that's I think it's really time spent and life is so busy and you know I have a full life trying to juggle work and and the children and and all of that life is so busy so it is sometimes hard to take extra time and I think time is the most precious thing really that we have that we can give to other people and to finish up I'd like to do a lightning round so quick questions seeking quick answers if we can what is your favorite word chocolate great choice what's your least favorite word impactful agreed do you consider yourself creative I play a creative person by using Pinterest what is a lawyer's trick or crutch or habit that you detest using the word like an oral argument what is a sound or noise that you love a baby crying what's a sound or noise that you hate a baby cry what is the profession other than your own that you would like to attempt I wouldn't mind going back to the high school English teacher or French teacher and what's a profession that you would not like to do anything medical I'm very squeamish and lastly when it's all over what do you want them to say about you that she loved well ladies and gentlemen judged Aimee Coneybear you you

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