60 Days In: Abner Confronts a Snitch - Full Episode (S5, E6) | A&E

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- Did you steal from him? I was the one who had to put the pressure on Robert because nobody else could put fear in him to say the truth. If you (beep) steal from me, I'm gonna beat the living (beep) outta you. I'm impressed with David; I've got to step up my game. I gotta be the Season five hero. - Stealing in the pod is a problem. (inmates talking) - We were kinda like, okay, someone needs to put Jasmine in her place. I'm seeing thieves not being held accountable for their actions, I'm seeing kites being unanswered, I'm seeing the D.O.'s watching from the other side and doing nothing. (laughs) - Maurice, like, they mad 'cause I got a double-bed, they bout to take my bed, and I was like, what? I said, "you know what, Ima nip this in the butt now." And one more thing, if y'all don't like it, fight me. I swear to God. - I'm sick of the (beep), I'm sick of the petty (beep). - David stood in the middle of the pod and he said I don't care what race you are, I don't care who you are, if you wanna fight me, then let's go. - (beep) man... - At some point, man, you might be called on, you know, to follow through on your threats, and that's where I fear for David. - When you causing problems consecutively, it's a issue. Everybody had to suffer because of one person. Richard, the head of the Chicanos came and apologized later on, like, "I'm so sorry, Prince, "I didn't mean to like, upset you." I'm like just chill though, bro have you some chill. So, that kind of pretty much deleted that out the air. - The fact that he came back and apologized, I will respect it, you know? It showed me that he real solid, man. The crazy part about being in jail, I probably met more solid people in jail then I have on the streets or in my regular life, man. - [David] And I will apologize to everybody for going (beep) like that, man. I had a heart to heart with every person in the room. But would I consider you family or friend, then that's what I consider you a family and friend. Throughout my journey I've created bonds that have sustained me mentally. (laughs) - So, all of them are like considered close friends to me. When you're with people 24/7, it's hard to maintain that level of separation that I'm in this program. - I (beep) slept so hard last night. - I did too, girl, I had bad dreams... - Jasmine, she's conniving, very conniving, and she stole from me and Brooke. (laughs) I put in kites to the officers, but they didn't do nothing about it. - Since I been here I submitted several kites, and I feel it kinda goes into like, this black hole-- like just the abyss, like I never see them come back to me. (dog barking) - Finally, the officers was actually doing something about the kites we put in on Jazmine. Here we go. - One by one we were told to walk up and stand in this screened area. (dog barking) (Jazmyn shrieks) - We went out into the rec room and while we're in the rec room, they went through our rooms. - The thing about inmates is they know how to be sneaky, they know how to make things blend in. We were in the rec room for quite some time, so I feel like they did search fairly well. - Alright, clear to bring em back in. - Okay. - The proud occupants of 320, on your feet. - Part of my mission is to pay attention to how the D.O.'s are doing things. And it's funny because it's the first time I've seen the D.O.'s really do anything. - Me and Brooke went to check our room. When I went to my room, they took my sheets. What the (beep)? And her room, they took all her sheets, her blanket and everything. I was like, why would they do that? This is not about Jazmine stealing. Ask anybody else if they got they stuff. - How is it that Jazmyn and Brooke, who haven't gotten in any trouble the entire time that we've been here, are the ones that are getting stuff taken away? - Yet, people like Jazmine, who are stealing from people, and not even trying to hide it, got in no sort of trouble. - [Abner] I am halfway through my 60 days with my mission of gangs. And I have completely been betting. - What's cracking? I am a bonafide Chicano, I am the enforcer holding position for the Chicanos, the right hand man for the head of the Chicanos. I can uncover a lot being a leader in the pod and holding position. Now I'm bout to checkmate you. You get the perks of knowing how people move, how, you know, certain things go around the pod. They trust me. - Giovanni is a Chicano, Giovanni is a good dude. He's not a bad dude, he's just made a mistake, but when you come to jail, you put a persona on, and people like me spot that persona. - [Abner] There it is... How am I in check? - Try and take the pawn. - How am I in check? - Try to take the (beep) pawn. - You can talk tough all you want, but until that pressure really hits you, that's when you really find out who that person really is. - [Abner] When you get called upstairs, something's going down. Gangs hold meetings in blind spots, could be shower, could be one of the rooms with no camera, or where the camera doesn't reach and decide punishment. - [Justin] On my phone. - Giovanni took it upon himself to start stealing from Justin, a Wood. 50 dollars worth of phone, and that was a no-no. And especially from the Woods. - Chicano's politics are more stricter, you have to enforce it to the fullest. Which is my job, I'm the enforcer. I say to myself, what do we do with this. The Woods, everybody, we put up a scheme to watch him, to catch him in the act. (blues guitar music) - After watching Zach and Nate, you know, some of the guys that've gone through past seasons, and knowing that David is doing an excellent job. Man, I gotta step up my game. I'm here for the Sheriff, I'm here for the Chief, to find out what they want about the jail operations here. - [Mark] Well, I found a majority of it. The only thing I'm missing is the PIN number. - No, I remember my PIN number, 'cause my problem is the paper itself is gone, I can't find the paper. It may not be that big of a deal, but it's better safe than sorry. - [Guard] Well today it ain't gonna happen tonight. Stealing phone time, stuff like that, can be a safety issue. So, the D.O. should take it seriously. How are you going to rectify the situation? - [Mark] So, can I speak to a supervisor? - [Guard] When they come in here. - [Guard] If I do that for you, I gotta do it for the whole facility, you know what I'm saying? - [Mark] Just hypothetical, if it's gone, then, let's say all my money's been used. Will they at least reimburse me, and say, "Hey, we understand crap happens." - [Guard] Well, it's not their fault, I mean you lost paperwork. - [Mark] I wanted to frickin knock him out, like right then, I wanted to say, "You frickin grrrr." Okay thank you. - That I had never lost or misplaced my PIN number. At first I was a little hesitant, a little questioning on what do I need to do to step up my game, but then I developed a plan. I decided that I would mysteriously lose my PIN number, just so I could see how long would it be before they turned it off, especially when you have money on your phone time. I thought, you know, now is a great opportunity to test the jail operations here. I was highly unimpressed with how they handled that situation. Working as a C.O. you gotta be tough, and you gotta go, go, go, go and criminals are always trying to get away with stuff. But, when the majority of people are just here to do their time, frickin cut 'em a break. - What'd they take? - Officers were searching the pod looking for contraband, but the only thing they took from my cell was my sheets and blanket. - [Brooke] No, I have nothing. - Really unusual that our staff would take your blankets and sheets away. You didn't, for any reason, give them to anybody else? - No, I would never, I'm not gonna sleep on this. - It's quite comfortable. - They came and looked me in my eye and said, "The guards didn't take it." Well, where did it go? There was no time for another inmate to run into my cell, real fast, and take my sheets and my blanket, and then run into a--they blatantly just lied to my face. - What you missing? - My sheets that go over this. They was like, "The reason why we took your sheets "is because it's damage, destruction to property. Destruction of property. But, they came tied. The officers, nobody did not anything. They picking on me and Brooke, so I was like, I think we getting targeted. - [Officer] Alright, everybody back to your rooms. - [Oficer] 201... - A pair of boxers, a stick of deodorant and some books. - [Officer] Everyone come out and have a seat. As a police officer, seeing how the D.O.'s treat us, pisses me off to the highest level of pissity. Like I'd be so (beep) mad, man, I be having to bite my tongue 'cause I wanna be like, "Yo, man, you know who the (beep) I am?" - 204, you guys need to come down. - Morales came and flexed his little self and thought he was doing something, so. Here we go again. - Alright fellas, listen up. If we have one person clashed and rolled outta here, you guys will be on the STEP program. - You'll be locked down for 30 days, no showers for the first five days, no visitations for the first week. No TVs for two weeks and then pretty much, slowly just work your way out. - Damn bro, five days with no shower, dog? - This seems awfully funny that this pod right here, has had the most roll-ups out of any other pod in this unit. - [Officer] Okay? - Y'all have the highest rollout, but the least assaults. Uh, isn't that a good thing? - When that happens we'll address that, but... - Hey guys, listen, listen. This is our jail, this is our unit. - Morales saying that this was his jail, y'all don't run the jail-- technically, we kinda do, though. We keep the peace more than them. - Enjoy the rest of your day out. - Morales is a (beep), I don't like him. - Did you guys catch all that (beep)? I'm a cop, you're a D.O., you're like, no offense, you're like the lowest level of law enforcement. - (beep) what the guards talking about (beep) every single one of em. - You're technically a servant, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, you keep the peace to an extent, but you ain't on patrol, you ain't arresting nobody. But yet, you flex so much though. Why, Why? - I'm a star! (inmates talking) - I was gonna sharpen pencils and the officer said, "You, come here." And I said, "Huh?" she said, "First name, last name, social security, "date of birth, mom's first and last name, cell phone." And I was like, "Um Okay." - If there's been more suspicion coming from the guards about Jazmyn, she just said that they were like, eyeballing her and just treating her really weird. - From my understanding, the D.O.'s are not supposed to be, like, interrogating you, you know what I mean? It's like that's what, like, the Sheriffs are for or if you're speaking to a Detective or something. But for them to single her out and keep asking her like, really weird questions and question her backstory, and question where she's from, it's kinda really bizarre because it hasn't happened to anyone else. - If I'm not worried about nothing, I'm worried about the D.O.'s-- 'cause I think they know who I am. - So now, she's getting more paranoid, because she's like, I don't wanna be a target. I don't want something to mysteriously happen to me, because the D.O.'s were like, "Hey, this girl "is here to get information on me." - Justin noticed that it 50 dollars missing from his phone, but he noticed that Giovanni was using the phone, a lot; and everybody knew that Giovanni didn't have no minutes. - So me and Rudy got together to catch him in the act. Giovanni took the bait and Jordan saw him click the numbers in, and that's how we pretty much caught him. - You are caught, there's no way around this, you're caught. From my experience in being in gangs, you have to enforce your politics, even if it's your brother, you have to. I can't keep control of the soldiers if I'm not in command. Listen, you stole from dude... - From who? - From the white dude. - I didn't steal (beep) from nobody, dog. I mean, you guys can go in here and say that I did, but I didn't steal (beep). - No, your boys saying that. - Well, you guys go over here and talk to him again. - That's why we all gonna be in the same room, upstairs and we're gonna have a trial. The enforcer is the one that makes the ultimate sacrifice. If someone has to get smacked, someone will get smacked. If someone has to get punished, I'm the guy you're gonna go one on one with. - You talk a good one, but we gonna have trial. - No, we gonna have a trial, (beep) that. - [Woman] Get water. Yeah, you got water? (dramatic music) - I kinda don't trust any of the D.O.'s. They stole like Brooke's blanket and Jazmyn's sheets. I mean, are they gonna target me? Are they gonna do something to me? I'm like. - The jail operations and protocol at this facility are all kinds of messed up. There's clearly favorites. So D.O.'s will make certain agreements with some of the inmates that they like, but then punish to the full extent others that they dislike. Like searching my room only and that's wrong. (dramatic music) - What'd I do? It's a really weird situation. And I'm like, "Why do you keep searching my room?" I'm just kind of like trying to do my time, blending in, and I'm getting targeted. - Me, Brooke, and Vivian, we all been targeted and nobody can actually tell us why. I hope the guards don't know that me, Brooke, and Vivian are participants. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) - Dillon is just a kid that has made some mistakes. He's come to me because, you know, I lead the Bible study and I think he just sees me as a genuine person. I've really grown fond of Dillon. - [Man] I've already signed up. - I walked over there to sign up for a razor. I was in the middle of a conversation with Dillon. Whoa, hey sir, I'm sorry. Hey sir. - [Man] Too late, bruh. - [Mark] Come on, it ain't too late. You're just walking out. Come on dude, really? (beep) jerk (beep) The D.O. looked me right in the eye and turned around and walked out. You know, I got ticked off about that. It was completely disrespectful. They wonder why it makes me pissed off. Like literally, I was walking up. The other inmates saw I had been screwed over because some of the other inmates had my back in there. - When I walked up, like literally stuff is still sitting there. - [D.O.] Listen to me, sir, please. - [Mark] No, I was walking up. - [D.O.] Listen to me, please. - [Mark] You grabbed it. - [D.O.] When I come in here and yell for razors, anybody standing around there is gonna sign. - [Mark] And I walked up. - [D.O.] You can't come up here. - [Mark] You grabbed it as I was walking up and walked out. - And right now, you ain't getting (beep) because of the way you're talking. You got a better attitude, you get something from me. Alright? - [Mark] Hold on, if I had a better attitude? You're the one that walked out. - What's that? - I'm the one. - Right now, I want you locked down, you're locked down, and you're locked down. - [Man] Okay, whatever (beep). - Go lock down. And you better watch your mouth sir or you will be going up to G unit. - From my standpoint, the yelling at him was a little calculated. He can treat us like (beep). - You're (beep). - I couldn't let the D.O. just walk off without saying something. Freaking jerk, dude. - If you come out again, I'll give you a ticket. - He locked me down and the other inmates saw that. And hopefully that showed that, you know, maybe I do have a little bit more respect in there. Being a former C.O., I know they're always trying to get over on you. But when you have a D.O. that comes in with an attitude like this guy, then he needs to be called out and he needs to be addressed. So, I'm gonna give the sheriff the information and it's up to the sheriff to react to that information. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) - [D.O.] Alright, Suarez. - One of the officers pulled out Vivian. - [Woman] Uh oh. - [D.O.] Come on. - And I was like, "Oh no, they're doing the same thing they did with Jazmyn." Vivian came back in and the officers pulled me out, so I don't know. (dramatic music) - The D.O. said, "I work at intake and your information is missing", which seemed really strange to me. - They only pinpointed me, Brooke, and Vivian. Why she didn't ask everybody else in the pod? - What I'm afraid of is maybe it's their way of letting us know, without saying anything that we know who you are. You're not supposed to be here. That's kind of my thought. - We need to just kind of lay low for a while. We don't have a lot of time left. Let's just kind of try to keep things cool and gather information. - As long as the inmates don't suspect one of us, we're not in physical danger. But as far as the guards go, I mean, they can make it harder to complete our missions. (dramatic music) - We're pretty much the judge and the jury. So I got everybody together and basically let them know, if you're against me, I'm against you. So you need to be against him. He's wrong for stealing. - He started mumbling, (mumbles), you know. You could tell he was lying. A green light with the Chicanos or any other is pretty much, you're banned from the unit, the gang, everywhere. You're pretty much gonna be looked upon as a snitch, thief, chicken, whatever. - He went in front of the camera and ran out the room. It was like a snitch, checker move, a rat. And when a convict sees that, (sniffs) he smells prey. There's gonna be Chicanos, the Woods, all of them on you. Once he sees that blood pouring, he's gonna know what reality is. (dramatic music) Giovanni, when I told him he had a green light, he ran out the room and pretty much said, "Catch me out here." That's snitching because we all know there's a camera out there and you want to jeopardize our freedom. - [Jordan] Yeah? - [Giovanni] Yeah. - [Abner] Cover up Jordan, that's it. Nobody get in this. - [Man] Take it in the room. - [Abner] He ran out. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, don't let him go, yo. - Don't let him go, yo. - [Officer] Go lock down, everybody lock down. Go lock down, now let's go! Lock down, let's go. - [D.O.] Let go of him, now. - [D.O. 2] Two inmates fighting... - Let go of him, now! - [D.O.] On the ground, now! Lock down, lock down. - Jordan did sacrifice himself for us and took him out the unit. And I respect him for that. You a rat. You a rat, bro. - (beep) you, AB. - You a rat. Snitch. Giovanni self destructed. You're dead. You pretty much killed yourself. And he's the one that's wrong, stealing. Stealing, he's the one that's wrong. Yeah, he's gotta be like that everywhere he goes. Me and Giovanni used to play chess a lot, but this time I pretty much checkmate him. Boom, got him. (dramatic music) (Willie singing Native American song) - Willie is Native American. In his culture, singing is definitely spiritual. (Willie singing) Willie singing is like one of those things where you kinda just close your eyes and think of the best thoughts. (Willie singing) Regardless of why we're in there, we're all doing time together. So, it just alleviates more stress off of you. It just takes you to a place where you're not able to go physically, but you can go mentally. (Willie singing) - [Willie] What the? - [D.O.] You cannot be doing that. - What? - [D.O.] You're supposed to do that outside, not indoors. - I understand where the officer is coming from, but on the same token, sometimes you have to use discretion because it provides stability just like, for me, the Bible and church provides stability. For him, the chanting provides stability and everyone loves it. - [Willie] Am I disturbing you? - [D.O.] You are way too (beep) loud. You're disturbing everyone. - [Mark] He ain't disturbing nobody other than him. - [D.O.] You ain't supposed to be doing that. - You interrupt our little bit of feng shui and then you lied and said people were complaining and no one had complained, not a single person. - [Willie] Whatever he said, like everybody in here is crying about me singing. - Willie was highly pissed. - But I think we were a little more pissed. - [Willie] Well, I'mma keep singing. - [Willie] Alright. (Willie singing) - One of the rules of Willie singing, like in his culture, that you do not interrupt for any reason whatsoever, like people get killed over that. So, I felt like losing my (beep) cool. (Willie singing) - You got to knock it off 'cause we are out here. - He's praying, man. - [D.O.] You're supposed to be praying before sunrise? - No, the chief said that he can pray in his own home. - [D.O.] Yeah. - [Willie] It is wrong. - [Man] At church on Sunday, when you going to church, and you start doing your thing, can I come into your church and tell y'all to stop? - Because this whole part, right now, - We cool, we cool with it. We don't got a problem with it, it don't matter. We don't got no (beep) problem with it. (Willie singing) - [Willie] Ah ho! (cheering) - I will admit that being in that cell with those people have definitely changed me. Definitely has put me in a different mindset. I'm one of them now. - [Man] Woohoo. (dramatic music) - You're nothing, just (beep) you. - Well (beep) you too. - I stepped in because two people I consider friends are going head to head. - Rocker, I'm gonna say this in the most respectful way possible. - We told our female participants, "Don't group up, don't clique up." - They did not heed that advice at all. - It's getting harder for me to even complete my mission because the guards have been targeting all three of us. It's like we're doing our time and still trying to look over our shoulders. - I think I've overstepped the boundaries of what I'd previously seen on 60 days in. (dramatic music)
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Length: 42min 55sec (2575 seconds)
Published: Sat May 23 2020
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