5 Things Paul Saladino Changed His Mind on After Quitting Carnivore

all right Dr Paul saladino you and I we've changed our minds on a bunch of things over the last couple of years but I want to highlight I mean the five biggest things that you've changed your mind on in the last five six years so I mean without further Ado Let's Just Jump Right In man yeah well first of all I'm a vegan now so I mean that's just you know everybody can just lose their mind about that special link down below for 20 off of these suckers macadamia nuts from House of macadamia but it's not just 20 off there's also a free box of namibian sea salt macadamia nuts that's literally a free entire box with whatever your purchase is so the cool thing about Hassam Academia is specifically they're bars so they're bars the first ingredient is macadamia nuts I challenge you if you go to like any grocery store look at the macadamia nut bars and it might have macadamia nuts somewhere in the ingredient list but these are legit the first ingredient we're talking about 45 macadamia nuts we're talking keto friendly low carb also vegan if that's what you're into the whole thing is is amazing and they're harvested in South Africa the proceeds benefit the farmers the farmers have ownership in the company they're taking the World by storms while you're seeing them on Joe Rogan that's why you're seeing them on Tim Ferriss they're everywhere but that special link down below is a 20 off discount link exclusively for people that watch my videos so it's a special link and a special offer so you got to use that link and then you add the macadamia nuts to your cart and they will get taken off when you check out so that's how it works just to make sure you can take advantage of the offer so check that link out down below in the description I'm joking so obviously you still love meat and organs but I think the biggest thing for me that I've changed my mind on since I wrote the book in 2019 was carbohydrates and then in connecting with that the ketosis and ketogenic diets so when I wrote the carnivore code and this is humbling this is what we all do is we write books and then you put your thoughts into cement you freeze your thoughts in Kryptonite and then you change your thoughts and you think oh the book it's just not a living document so but when I wrote the book I was of the opinion that carbohydrates were not great for humans and we're sort of looking at the literature differently and over time I learned personally in my own life doing a carnivore diet of meat organs and fat and salt for a year and a half that including carbohydrates in my diet improved my health from there so my whole story is that I was eating kind of a paleo diet had really bad eczema which I'd had my whole life getting rid of vegetables and all plant food significantly improve the eczema so much so that in the last four and a half five years since I've been on this more specific path I haven't had any flares of the XML that are significant at all that's a big deal because I had massive eczema on my elbows my wrists my hips so much so that I really couldn't even wear pants easily it would get on my shirts I couldn't do Jiu Jitsu because I had eczema on my knees and it was getting infected so getting rid of vegetables really helped with my Eczema but then I learned after a year and a half that I was getting such bad muscle cramps heart palpitations sleep disturbances my testosterone is kind of going down right now it's around seven or eight hundred I've been on I've included carbohydrates in my diet for the last two and a half years but at that point it was going 450 500 significantly lower and my sex hormone binding globulin was creeping up so I had electrolyte issues and what I realized was that I'd been thinking about insulin wrong I've been thinking that I needed to keep my insulin low all of the time and to be fair on a carnivore diet My fasting insulin was low 3.5 3.0 and I thought incorrectly that if I ate carbohydrates my insulin Spike that would be a bad thing right what I realized and I wasn't taught this in medical school was that insulin spikes after the carbohydrates are actually healthy for the human body for a variety of reasons so insulin is probably something else I've changed my mind on carbohydrates and Insulin what I realize now is that your body needs an insulin signal after a meal when you eat carbohydrates to signal to the kidneys to absorb and hold on to minerals sodium potassium calcium magnesium so the massive profound electrolyte problems that people get on long-term ketogenic diets are almost certainly due to a lack of insulin signaling at the level of the kidney there are various levels of kidney physiology upon which insulin is going to act but people in the ketogenic space I think are well intentioned and they're trying to hold on to minerals by including massive amounts of salt in their diet but it just doesn't work because you need an insulin signal level of the kidney to hold on to those things so the first thing I did when I sort of transitioned off a ketogenic zero carbon carnivore diet which include honey in my diet and the first couple of days I felt a little weird because I was physiologically insulin resistant and then your body kind of adjusts to this my blood sugar spikes normalize and you know if I eat honey today or a few years ago after I had adjusted to having the carbohydrates back in my diet my blood sugar might go in 130 140 150 milligrams per deciliter but I don't worry about that because if you look at the actual uh the actual shape of that curve it comes back down to a baseline very quickly within the hour for sure so this is normal human physiology and we should not fear glucose spikes in a metabolically healthy individual it's going to go up it's going to come back down that's normal and that insulin signaling is healthy for humans at so many levels it's healthy for our hormones it's healthy for our brains it's healthy for the production of glutathione and the resorption of minerals so that idea of insulin being all bad all the time and including carbohydrates in my diet that was a huge huge thing and now we know I mean there's tons of research that I just didn't see at that point that I was sort of blind to about carbohydrates for athletes carbohydrates post exercise I mean we just worked out I have holes in my shorts now from the uh the weight belt you know this this weight that I was using has ripped a hole in the front of my shorts here and carbohydrates post exercise are so clearly shown to improve performance carbohydrates overall are starting to improve all sorts of metrics in humans testosterone recovery sleep all kinds of things so those are two big ones for me from the outset on the cramping side I've got a question as far as because I've experienced that when I'm where I'm low carb right I'm very very prone to cramping which as someone that does a lot of endurance stuff it's problematic like if I'm back country or anything like that I was just doing a long Trek and and ran into a huge cramping issue even though I'm not super low carb anymore I guess I'd still low-ish carb and I would argue that it actually takes time to actually like recover from some of that uh insulin issue that you have with the kidneys but the question that I've always had and maybe you know the answer since protein is insulinogenic can you get some resorption of the minerals through the insulin Spike with protein or does the glucagon cancel that out in that case I mean you get some it's just nowhere near if you look at the amount of insulin and the level of insulin you get with carbohydrates it's much it's much higher than it is which is protein I mean you get Selma protein it's just not the same as a carbohydrate Spike and so people in communities that are fearful of carbohydrates will say look at how much insulin you're getting and that's that's good you know you need that and so so people understand this also like when you don't eat carbohydrates you become insulin resistant this is not the pathological insulin resistance of diabetes which is different physiology that I can describe this is the insulin resistance of physiology basically historically evolutionary this is starvation insulin resistance meaning that you are physiologically insulin resistant your body is saying hey spare the glucose any glucose you're getting spare that for the brain the adrenals and the gonads and maybe the red blood cells don't put it in the muscles that's physiologic insulin resistance and that's what you see in people who are low carb or zero carb or keto and that's why the first time someone like that eats carbohydrates they may feel very strange or the blood sugar may go up this is why a woman who is low carb will fail a glucola test in her pregnancy because that is physiologic insulin resistance and that's I actually have come to believe that's not a good thing I don't think we want to be physiologically insulin resistant it is a historically evolutionarily adaptive thing for extreme situations but I think that humans do better and I've come to see carbohydrates as a signal of abundance I mean if you go to spend time with ahaza or the Maasai or the samburu or the koisan I mean these tribes invariably seek carbohydrates and they celebrate it they don't think oh I've had a hundred carbs today already I'm not going to eat this they when I was with the hadza we found a beehive and they just went ah they just went off on this thing I mean they were giving I got a big chunk of beehive and ate it with the larva in there and the honey and it's amazing and the other three hearts of guys that I was with were probably eight sixty seventy percent of the honey in this Hive and then shared a little bit with their comrades when they came back say hey we found a hive here's a small amount for you guys but they'd eaten a ton of stuff so historically I think humans had massive exposure to carbohydrates whenever they could get it as much as they could get it yeah they didn't fear it at all I would agree I mean I definitely feel like you know to say that carbohydrates aren't evolutionarily correct is uh is invalid I mean it's I think there's there's always access to them at some at some point one way or another so and humans are seeking them if we don't have them we're seeking them if we can't find if we can't find them in berries I didn't mean to cut you off but if we can't find them in berries if we can't find them in honey we're going to find them in Roots like we it's like it's a piece just like I mean it's interesting it's just so intuitive and simple we're looking for animal protein we're looking for nutrients and organs that's clear we're always eating the whole animal but the next thing I think in tandem with that we're also seeking carbohydrates as wild humans we've forgotten what wild humans look like because we all except for maybe a couple thousand people on the planet today live as semi-domesticated humans um but it's very clear I mean if you look at the haza so there was a PhD researcher who actually spent a lot of time with them and gave them surveys of these nomadic tribes and said what are your favorite foods and there were five foods that were their favorite so there was there were there was meat there were berries there was Baobab there was tubers and I forget the last one I'll think of in a moment but honey was invariably the first thing that they wanted both men and women ranked honey as number one one and mem said meet as number two women ranked berries uh Baobab and tubers I think all about the same but in both groups the The Roots were sort of the last thing that they wanted to eat wow man that's wild but both of them really that was the favorite thing for them was honey want me to make sense it's delicious they celebrated it more than anything right and if you look at these people there are tons of studies of them of their cardiovascular health they're not just they have insulin sensitivity which is amazing which is exemplary they're not insulin resistant they're not diabetic they're not obese so I mean my own anecdotal experience I don't eat an abundance of carbohydrates but I've added honey and fruit in and my insulin sensitivity has improved on my lab work so I mean it's by fasting insulin yeah which is perhaps the most clear metric you could ever use so I mean unquestionably an improvement in insulin sensitivity all right so we've got one and two what would you say the third thing that you've uh fasting probably yeah which is linked so the the literature around fasting and around sort of autophagy is is not as clear as I once thought it was it's kind of murky and I'm just not convinced number one that you need to fast to have autophagy if you look at markers of autophagy our body is always kind of doing this our body is always using ubiquitinization of proteins and recycling them and there's some evidence that you're doing just as much autophagy when you're eating is when when you're not and there are some things that can trigger autophagy or autophagy signals that you're eating like glucose or treehillows which is a sugar that occurs in plant foods like that oppose apparently triggers autophagy that's including something in your diet so eating glucose triggers autophagy this is not the traditional you know canonical narrative we hear so to to make it this simple narrative like you must fast to do house cleaning that sounds very appealing people and they're thinking yes I just have to fast more and more I want a clean house I go home in my house I'm reading like Marie condo I have to put everything in its place I want a very clean house you know Marie condo like the uh the the you know the life-changing magic of tidying up so that's what they think about their body when they're fasting and it's just not that way at all and there's some evidence that potentially fasting could induce negative cardiac remodeling or lead to fatty infiltration and cardiac tissue so it's just fasting is not as benign as people believe it to be in my opinion and people get super freaking triggered when we're talking about this so I know the comments should be out of control but I just I don't fast anymore and I I don't think that um that it should be taken as a completely benign intervention I mean it was all the rage four or five years ago and I used to do I was doing carnivore I was doing intermittent fasting and I just think that's that's not how I think about it today I think that there's benefit to giving your body signals of abundance and we can talk about cancer more if you want or whatever but I think that there's interesting evidence that sometimes doing too much autophagy is almost leading you toward cancerous Pathways I mean there's too much of a I mean it's it's a constant give and take I like the way that that Mark Sisson actually put it he was like I don't even like the word fast and he's like I like fractal eating he's like I go through periods where sometimes I don't eat but it's not like I'm consciously thinking about it and I've come to think that like the body should be flexible enough to handle periods of time without food but it doesn't to be this deliberate thing all the time you know it's it's like Mark Sisson it was interesting he's just talking yeah you know sometimes I just don't feel like eating lunch you know it's fine I don't I don't want to eat I don't want to eat but I feel like I have a level of adaptation that allows me to do that and it made a lot of sense with me and you know personally I still the reasons that I will still train fast in the morning is I feel good fast in the morning but I also work out first thing in the morning and it's also just feels weird sometimes but to your point if I'm going to eat something when I work out it's going to be something like watermelon or honey or something that's just like quick absorbing really quick um so yeah I've sort of come I would say full circle and accepting that fasting is not the end all be-all by any means but I do think that for some people it's psychologically just how it works for them like if they can put themselves in a box and not eat during that period of time if that's what works for them and that's what worked for me when I lost a lot of weight and I recently did a video kind of talking like why I don't fast so much anymore myself it was just thinking okay I'm down at the body fat percentage I want to be at is it is it anal retentive for me to say like okay I need to fast x amount of time yes it is yeah so it's uh yeah right so it's but I also enjoy how I feel certain times so I just don't keep a log book of when I fast anymore it's just like it's just gonna happen when it happens I've I've recently learned about some metrics on the blood work that I think can be very revealing for people and I think there's a lot of research on this cortisol to dhes ratio and it's a it's not a fasted cortisol to dhes it can be like multiple times a day you can look at it but there's pretty good evidence that that ratio can tell us it's it correlates very strongly with longevity and morbidity and so this is really powerful so I think that if people are curious about this like we I think that one of the problems with Western medicine is it's kind of like 35 years of an anachronism like we're just thinking about things like the literature suggested 35 years ago we're not really up to date and Western medicine I think it was like the Titanic it moves very slowly but I think everyone when they go to the doctor should be getting a fasting insulin and we should all be getting cortisol to dhes every single time you go to the doctor probably fasted and in the afternoon and comparing those and sort of tracking those so the one metric that I started tracking a few years ago is fasting insulin and that's been really valuable just to be like you know I'm on Carnivore strict carnivore just meat and organs My fasting incident is low I can add carbohydrates My fasting in the sun was low I add more carbohydrates to 200 or 300 grams a day from fruit and honey you know something that a lot of people would say is pure sugar quote unquote and again My fasting insulin remains low sometimes lower than it was on Carnivore so I think we should all also be looking at cortisol to dhes ratio and just using this as a metric if we trust or we believe that the science is robust and I think it's pretty solid with this ratio and saying hey I'm going to go do some workouts faster this week I'm going to get a cortisol all the dhes ratio or if you're keto and you really believe it get a cortisol to dhes dheas ratio and then add carbohydrates and see how it changes because on one side is the cortisol right this is a stress hormone and I think that there's a lot of validity to thinking about cortisol as an aging hormone there are actually papers published review papers asking the question is cortisol an aging hormone and I think the literature there and the evidence is pretty robust that it is and you don't want your cortisol to be chronically tonically high in general and I think if you look at people on keto they're going to have higher levels of cortisol I mean there is this moment in the morning when you get this cortisol Awakening response and yes that is a physiologic diurnal thing that happens but other than that you do not want your cortisol to be high and I think what we see in humans is between meals if you're fasting your cortisol starts creeping up and that's to me is a signal maybe it's time to if you have access to them eat some carbohydrates to keep it down we live in a stressful world driving you've got traffic you know you have family things why are we putting more stress into our bodies I think that at some level it's very hard to make an argument for any hormetic the whole idea of hormesis I think is philosophically flawed in many ways but it's really hard to make a philosophical argument around the benefits of cortisol of hormesis in humans I mean it's clearly there are such strong arguments now that it's aging that it's pro-diabetic that's pro-liver fat you want to keep this down and I think that it's very cut and dry just to get cortisol the DHEA s and do interventions in your life and see what changes it and you want to minimize that you know you want that ratio to be as low as possible less than 0.3 perhaps and because you want your androgens this dheas is a Androgen precursor in the human body you want your sort of sex hormones for both men and women these androgens for both men and women high and you want your cortisol to be low and that's pretty cut and dry it's like black and white yeah makes a lot of sense and that's something that anyone can go get an easy test on that's a pretty inexpensive test too if you were to just go all the cart too as is fascinating 25 30 cash I want to start like a non-profit and just make fasting insulin free for people or make it accessible because I think it would change the landscape I I do agree on that definitely agree on that yeah all right so we got three now all right what's number four he's pushing me so we got carbohydrates insulin fasting I think I would probably say grounding which is a little bit different interesting yeah I used to kind of think grounding was woo and didn't really give much thought to it and now I think about it every day and I I've really only just begun to look at the literature and I'm not I'm sort of medical biochemical minded I I need to kind of dust off the physics and the electrical engineering side of it and so but I it is interesting to think about the way that our bodies are different when we're grounded which is kind of connected to the Earth and when they're not and there's not a ton of literature here but the literature is interesting and it's compelling that like you know right now actually this is funny we have um I was showing you these shoes that a company sent me that are that have a grounding plug in them and they sent me this thing called a continuity meter and you can take this continuity meter and stick it in a ground you can either stick it in the grounding part of an outlet people don't do this at home don't electrocute yourselves but if you know what you're doing that little round plug in an outlet that's the ground so you can stick the continuity meter in a ground then you can or you can stick it in the actual ground and then you can hold the continuity meter and it'll tell you if you're grounded or not so I've been experimenting this it's kind of fun like right now we're not grounded you know but if I go over here and put my hand on the concrete this is probably ground right here and there's evidence that the way my body sort of perceives the environment when I'm here grounded versus not is different which is really interesting and there's something called The Zeta potential on your red blood cells this sort of charge around them and there's research that looks at the way the red blood cells are charged when you're grounded versus not and it's different and you think wow that's actually physiologically different and I mean it's very clear you can see this like if I have the grounding meter you can tell like there's a difference in the ground when you're not grounded you're sort of accumulating a charge and you think is that something that your body is used to historically evolutionarily which is the framework that I consistently come back to we would never have done this it's very hard not to be grounded in nature 50 000 years ago and I think oh man that was sort of a realization to me like do you have a dog yeah always grounded when they're outside they unless they're wearing like the doggy pot like the doggy shoes right they're always grounded they're always touching the ground um and we did this experiment of Airbnb and Topanga uh one of my guys actually climbed a tree right and so when you're grounded in a tree when you're touching the tree because the tree is grounded yeah it's a good point like it's very hard not to be grounded in nature without shoes on or with natural fibers in the bottom of your shoe but it's very easy not to be grounded in our world today like wow that's a really stark contrast you know we have rubber soled shoes and how many people are actually grounded at all and like it's very possible that most of us are grounded zero percent of the day yeah well they used to say they when you would uh go to the beach at least be like oh it's the it's the negative ions from the ocean that make you feel good and I always kind of question that I'm like how about maybe this is the one time that people are actually taking their shoes off measure cortisol levels they would like look at you know just level even perceived relaxation at the ocean and they will say look oh it's just the white noise or it's the negative ions and I always question that because I'm always speculated on ground I've always been a fan and thought that it made sense because we are electrical systems like it just makes logical sense to me even without looking at literature and so I had always questioned that being like hmm no one well not many people wear shoes at the beach and I always thought that I was like maybe it's just the fact that they're actually connected to the Earth in conjunction with these episodes yeah and if you I mean going in the ocean you're ground I mean the sand is grounded without a doubt but yeah you think about it like it feels strange to be to be wearing shoes on the beach yeah almost anyone is gonna when I see people walking in shoes on the beach I think don't you like there's some intuition like no my body wants to touch that it's like seeing a glass of water you want to drink that yeah so your body like wants to do it and I think that for most of us when we are aware of this if you see a nice patch of grass you might actually want to like take your shoes off and go over there and like touch it potentially because of this I think it and there is interesting research that it sort of calms us as humans and changes sympathetic nervous tone there are small studies in women who have done shift work nurses and they have them sleep on grounding mats for a month and it normalized their sort of diurnal cortisol spike in the morning you know many people have this tired but wired physiology where they have this cortisol Rhythm which is out of sync we want that to be early in the morning that's what wakes us up and sleeping on a grounding mat normalized it for these women it's actually a very very striking visual that maybe we can put in the YouTube I can send you the study where if you look at it prior at the beginning of study it's just one study I think it's 12 women their their cortisol rhythms are all over the place it looks like spaghetti or something and then at the in the study they're pretty synced up it's just this gradual decline throughout the day of cortisol and then a morning Spike and the intervention was sleeping on a grounding mat and a grounding mat is interesting because it's this conductive surface I think it's some sort of carbon surface it's like um you know Carbon type of conductor amethyst and other things yeah well and it's into a wall and it's plugged into a ground you have to test the outlet and you know you can get very 2.7 I think is what it is 2.7 Hertz I don't know I don't even know you can get very geeky about this and people some people are worried about dirty electricity and other stuff but I think that any grounding is better than no grounding and like that basically you plug it into an outlet that's crowned that you test the outlet and then you're grounded when you're sleeping that's interesting so I've been thinking about grounding more recently and it's just it just makes me more even more like a hit yeah I mean I walk around in like cotton shorts with holes in them and I never wear shoes anymore so that's that's another thing about definitely on the same page I mean it's I've been on the ground and kick for like the last couple of months and I got a really I got a grounding mat and you know again purely anecdotal right but like even uh like my sleep just I'm just trying to like spin even if I spend like 20-25 minutes a day doing some kind of neater yoga or meditating on it just like just making a concerted effort and of course I do try to be shoeless as much as possible anyway but making a concerted effort with that and I've even told my team I've told Jr you know I just said like I know this is like hippie Witch Doctor weird stuff but like call me crazy but I feel a difference don't you I mean I've I haven't done any controlled studies but whenever I have friends over to my house I'll put a grounding mat down on the couch or a bed and say go lie on that and tell me what you feel and I should do some sort of controlled experiment where one of them is plugged in and one of them isn't see if they notice the difference they can tell but people consistently and get it's just nothing scientific it's just anecdotal it kind of feels like it's pulling you in or like just just like kind of ground it just feels grounded in an interesting way no so yeah I think that's pretty that's pretty fascinating all right what's big number five here um okay so I think number five I mean it overlaps a lot with the other ones we got shoes we got maybe sunglasses yeah yeah changed my mind on sunglasses for sure I don't wear them anymore I think that you want the sunlight in your eyes and I don't know I mean I think that there are times when it's super bright out I just wear a hat rather than sunglasses because I don't want to confuse the brain like this is so interesting that like you know your eyes are I've heard many people say this but your eyes are sort of this exterior brain these are outgrowths of your brain and they're looking at the natural world and so yes right now we're sitting under blue lights not super evolutionarily consistent but why would I want to walk around all day with some sort of UV filter on my eyes that kind of confuses my circadian rhythm doesn't make sense to me like why would we do that yes if you want to shade your eyes from something I put a shade up here and in Costa Rica where I live I will wear a hat to protect my face from the Sun I don't use sunscreen unless I'm surfing and when I'm surfing I use a Tallow based sunscreen with zinc with essentially no other active ingredients because I'm really interested in sunscreens these days but I just put that on my face when I'm surfing I don't put sunscreen on my body I do have some Italian Heritage so I tend to tan it looks like you do too and so I will put a hat on if I'm walking around but I don't wear sunglasses because I want sort of the full spectrum of light coming into my eyes throughout the day I want that information I think that for so many of us as humans today a lot of health and disease is connected with the fact that we're giving our bodies very confusing information there's very confusing information around food right we're just not eating the same food anymore and whether that's processed foods or seed oils so many evolutionarily inconsistent signals to humans how could our bodies be healthy right we're not grounding we're not using circadian rhythms we're not getting up with the Sun or going to bed at night when it's dark we're using blue lights at night we're wearing sunglasses you know we're putting things on our skin to protect quote unquote our skin from the sun when our skin is actually supposed to see the Sun and those things we put on the skin have octopenzone Ava benzone octocrylines which are absorbed and connected with Cancers and so think about it like you're just we as humans in 2023 are basically quote unquote swimming in information that is confusing for our body I mean how why would our bodies respond any differently than they are as a culture which is massively confused massively unhealthy and we have very unhappy people so I think that the simple and perhaps just it's just it's such an overly simplified concept it's just freaking give your body like basic natural information quote natural you know nature-based information the Natural State like what is it it's look at the someone you wake up without contacts try to avoid toxins in the environment like Plastics that are xenoestrogens put your freaking feet on the earth you know don't wear synthetic clothing that would probably be another thing I've changed my mind about is underwear and what my underwear is made out of um you know polyester underwear doesn't look so good for any either men or women we can talk about Lululemon I don't wear underwear I don't wear underwear very often either man it's good I have a little bit of underwear on right now I'm wearing some boxes because I got some holes in the front of my shorts here but yeah so it's I think that that's true but what are your shorts made out of yeah so I mean and then and then I think it goes back back to what I usually talk about which is food and the idea that look your body needs to have a food signal you just need to get your body the right information and if you give your body the right information and you know you being like a generalized Royal youth all of the listeners if we are giving our body the right information then our genetics know what to do and they they're responding properly and we're just yes humans might evolve into some transhumanistic cyborg in a thousand years but right now in 2023 we basically look like we did 20 000 years ago and 20 000 years ago we were giving our bodies very different information I'm not saying we need to walk around in loincloths the idea is that hey we live in an amazing time we have technologies that make it easy to do things I drove 40 minutes to get here from Topanga that would have taken me a whole day to hike here yeah you know we still could have had a campfire tonight but now we can do this technologically and you know thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people can see it that's amazing but as we're doing this as we're using this technology I think we need to be aware that we're giving our body different information that it's used to and we need to return to what it's expecting if we hope to be fully healthy yeah that's a about our crisis abundance right yeah and confusion in terms of information yeah yeah that's awesome man and I will say one thing on the sunglasses I'm with you on the sunglasses I did go snow blind one time oh my god well all right which I was I was hiking uh climbing Mount Whitney and so yeah so I was at like probably 13-ish thousand feet or so and like yeah I was like I'm not wearing sunglasses in this time it's extreme right and I come back down and I'm sitting down and we're having dinner afterwards and I'm sitting down and my wife says Tommy your eyes are bleeding like what do you mean she's like you look like Terminator I'm like what's going on now like I'm like I have blood in my eyes and uh and then I started feeling like I have sandpaper in my eyes right and uh end up completely blind couldn't see and ended up uh in Lone Pine Hospital which is like a rinky dink really scary hospital just in the eastern Sierras and uh they had to give me these drops that they basically said if you use these basically more than twice in a 10-year period you will go permanently blind because it's like the only way to like get the eyesight back I don't even know what the hell is in them but it was just like give me anything at this point to get my like it was so now anytime I'm going in the snow for longer than two hours I will wear sunglasses but other than that no yeah extreme circumstances and I've done that too I mean I've climbed in the last time I climbed significant things towards Whitney yeah you know or actually it was Rainier during my residency and I was not I did you know you definitely wear sunglasses if you're on a freaking white snow field and the snow is blaring down but listen most people are point zero zero one percent of people on this podcast are listening to that are doing that and most people are just wearing their sunglasses I mean when I talk to women they say I don't want I'm wearing sunglasses because I don't want to get wrinkle lines in my eyes from squinting okay great hide emotion which is a whole different question right yeah that's a whole different thing like communicating if you're wearing sunglasses uh you know I know there's some early literature coming out surrounding uh even Botox and how it's affecting how people are communicating which is really interesting because like if you look at someone that's had work done you know the the feedback at the Loop is just that signal is completely distorted because there's this body language in this facial language that we would have if I'm talking to you and we're communicating but if you're frozen but the same kind of thing if you're wearing sunglasses and trying to communicate with you I'm a big believer in that yeah yeah I thought the same thing with Botox and it's you know you meet people in real life and especially here in Los Angeles you just every once in a while I'm talking to someone I think like what is going like why am I not getting the right emotion there are so many muscles in the face yeah I don't know how many muscles but the complexity of human facial expressions is is incredible and to to mute part of that is to take away some of our communication as humans and I understand that women or men don't want to look older but I mean some women don't even want to laugh because they don't want to get wrinkle lines from laughing and I think that's just ludicrous but it's I agree I think Botox changes the way that we're communicating as humans and sunglasses too you can't understand someone's emotions properly just like masks did and there's so many kids now that have perhaps stunted development from growing up not seeing facial expressions when they were young during the whole travesty that we just went through so who knows yeah yeah well where can everyone find you bud Paul saladino MD on Instagram and then that's pretty much the best place on all the socials it's Paul saladino MD well as always brother thank you man thank you man

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Length: 30min 35sec (1835 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 02 2023