4 Prophetic Discernment Types—Which Do You Have?

hello everybody well i'm chris felton from bethel church as you well know and this is how the cunnington i've known you since you were come on right here i think you were like after a while you look great in anything you know what we say in our houses but i said what did his mom say every day and the boy said because i have four sons and a husband and they said you'll say do you notice anything different about me and that that that is they said you just say it it could be anything it could be your nails your hair your dress but you notice anything different about me and then they just sit there and there's this kind of we should know that we don't know what it is it's like look at fear so that's what they said i'll see wrinkles you don't want to ask your kids you don't want to ask your kids no they're very honest they're very honest they're all scary they they're crazy they're boys i so i met you and you have an identical twin sister named i have an identical twin sister named deborah and we are near twins so twins i don't know if you know this there's categories obviously fraternal and identical but we're beard twins so yale did a study that 10 of identical twins are near twice so oh you like to look in the mirror yes and even biologically so i'm left-handed she's right-handed our palette's on opposite sides so it's a whole biological should be physiological she's kind yeah she's cute i'm cuter i always wonder what it'd be like to be an identical twin and think you're twins ugly uh right you know i'll tell you what i definitely tend to copy her because i know how it looks so i said oh okay i'm never wearing that color okay i've never and what's funny is we were just on vacation with our kids and the her kids get us mixed i mean her son came over and started talking to me and then he goes oh i thought you're my mom i mean we it's consistent but your voices are very different so as soon as you talk that's all i used to be able to tell like ask i say hi and then when you say i'm like that's number right there that's the that's the kind one over here this is the other one side yeah the softer side the mirror the mirror on the other side but on a serious note i i met you bear when i was young i was just coming into adulthood i think i was 19. no you were 16. was i 16. high school in weaverville yeah we drove to a little town called weber you're your sister yeah it was wild i was coming out of high school and i came we were invited to come speak at a little youth group and you know weaverville who knows were you actually 18 then well i i was i homeschooled my my junior and senior year so i'm not quite sure where i was i think i might have been 17. those home school folks never know i don't actually know if i graduated like i think my mom might have just signed it to get us out but uh so we came up to wienerville well god was really moving in california yeah in a pretty profound so we were you know we were there for it and so my sister and i cleaned houses during the week and then would go and speak and minister whoever would have us i always said like there was about 15 young people and then revival and hit and there was like 17. like it was like that so we came and we were built to minister and we didn't know very many people i think there was a guy named mike moore mike mike morris mike morris he was leading up and invited us and then we drove up there and spoke at a youth event in a gym and we started to prophesy that was kind of there's more to the story but we were really brought in not for our communication skills but our prophetic skills we really didn't know how to preach at that point i mean we were reading reading reading reading and then luckily praise god when you have an anointing of your life you can lean into that and you can be not that smart and god makes you know his supreme actual makes them supernatural believers and so we began to minister prophetically um i always think i think we were dumb enough to not know any better i think there's something about in our spiritual life when you just believe you just go okay god i've got nothing to prove and we didn't have anything to prove and we start prophesying over people and you we talked about this later like years later you had a different experience because somebody had come up to you in the back and said these people are false prophets right they said um so i was working that day and they said hey can you come over for a couple hours just to judge the prophecies and it might because the prophecies yeah i've never really done that before that sounds interesting so i went over that day while you girls were ministering to the youth group which i had led that youth group previously um but there was a lot more than youth there i mean the group yeah and then at the end uh you called me out and i had never met you and you're like now there's a business anointing on you and of course i was a business guy at the time and gave me all this stuff about business and what i was doing and like yeah she's good and we went to we went to a round table pizza after that we made the pizza and i talked about this because now you know almost 25 years later of ministry which is amazing there was a moment in that that if you follow my life at all which i don't expect that you do but if you catch little glimpses you'll learn that i have learning i call learn disabilities but i have comprehension issues and reading and dyslexic and i have all the you know all the good stuff but your sister's got all the gifts yeah and unfortunately i miss the window with people there's a lot of resources on it for people that have learning difficulties and are learning and i just kind of i think i was just my parents just prayed for me i think that was their way but we i i definitely was struggling with finding my call finding my significance and i was telling you that at the round table yes because you looked at me and said that's funny because you seem rather intelligent and i had never did not realize at that moment i had never heard someone use the word intelligent toward me and i just started and you didn't know anything you just kept eating and talking and i am i'm crying because you know something about when we haven't had things spoken over our lives it just touches our hearts so powerful just one more little personal story a few years later i tried to hire you here yes he did her dad she worked for her dad and her dad called me and said i'm i'm mr bellatone i need to see you so i have to drive to see your dad it's one of those experiences you don't want to have i was hoping that you were going to talk with them letting me come my dad's a full italian it's in the family and so yeah you and kathy drove down i wasn't even in the room i've had you know now but no yeah i was like what are your intentions with my daughter like dude i'm a married man you wanted me to be a pastor for the friday night service yeah and it was i mean it was a good service but bethel was a bevel so like let's be clear bethel with 800 people maybe a thousand at that point but it wasn't the worldwide movement and we were starting a church in roseville so we were you know giving our lives to that and i always laugh because you we turned around you said you know that's fine you went you know did your thing i didn't knock my thing and i always laughed because i said it's a good thing bethel never turned into anything like scrutinized like i was dating you or something like uh i never had an interview like this before it's like usually i'm interviewing the employee in this case the dad of the employee is interviewing me that's right we always say being erotic is a full-time consequently we didn't hire you nope no sense of humor because i want to say 15 years later yeah you did hire me and i love that reality because sometimes we can feel like we miss something like i often felt like did i miss something was i supposed to take the risk i didn't take the risk but that's i love that about god because you know he turned around and he i came back with my four children and husband to do what god had called me to do here at ethel all along so it's pretty powerful yeah and ran more revolution for how many years did you do that yeah seven years seven years yeah so we're changing subjects over here and we're you know we're entering into this vortex of the school of prophets where you're going to speak this year it's exciting you missed every year almost every year inviting you and you're like yeah you know why it's australia australia always has us in july and august because that's their like summer whatever window but that's why we know we're going to loyalty lives and well aware of it and god shut down australia for us so we can have admission we love you australia we're coming for you when you open up totally did your call as a prophet why don't you why don't you just talk a little bit about how did you like when did you discover that you had this prophetic mantle and you know you just shared a little bit of your journey a few years ago when did you come to this place where you're like i'm i'm not just doing prophetic ministry i'm actually a prophet right well i don't know if i set out knowing that i was i think i grew up in a prophetic home and uh you know back in the day you know in the 80s 70s 80s 90s there was a prophet and there was the and they were often strange and they were you know very unique because i think there wasn't a culture of the prophetic so that's kind of how they operated and my dad happened to really have a prophetic gift and would travel around the world in a prophetic way and so i grew up around that prophetic voice but i didn't necessarily know that it was unique or that he was kind of functioning in the prophetic so i remember not believing i could hear god's voice and i watched my dad and the way that his prophetic gift worked which i think there's unique ways that it works but for him specifically he would give one-on-one prophetic words on the platform so he would call somebody up they would stand up and he would kind of read their mail and there was often tears and kind of wow moment and it was very much used in the kind of an inner healing way and so i remember not believing i could hear god's voice and then about in my high school years i started telling my dad you know it's so obvious what you're telling these people i can't believe that they think this is prophetic it's just so obvious and he remember him saying no how to live that is the prophetic in fact you actually are seeing and hearing what i'm saying and hearing and being prophetic is often acknowledging what people are already seeing and so that was an awful moment for me so i began to kind of learn that like okay i am hearing god's voice and then begin to practice it i was thinking about this uh we i also went to wyoming and youth with a mission is a huge movement around the world and we love them and uh there was a joy dawson wrote a book on hearing god's voice and so we would sit as a in wyoming they would have us sit quietly and hear god's voice and then write it down or share it so i started kind of practicing in these prophetic moments and then i i think as i went into adulthood um i began to realize that i was i was using the prophetic for personally individuals but then there was almost this grace to begin to teach or speak on to a group or to a movement or to a team and i didn't know this until i came to bethel a couple years ago and you talk about this but you really can't operate in an apostolic prophetic voice unless the leadership is giving you kind of that ability to do that and so i didn't realize that and i travel you know in ministry often and i realized that when i would go to certain churches and they weren't open to it i had a tendency for the words to be very personal and unique and just kind of individual but if they were like let it go give us what you've got i often would get a word over an environment or over a leadership team so that is about authority and permission that's a long answer but for me specifically that's how i really started with practice i i like to look at it as like you're working out in the gym and the prophetic is something we practice now i know people and chris knows this there are people that they're just prophetic that's just who they are but i don't think god wants us to change our personality to hold the gift i think god knows exactly what he got when he got you and he is so comfortable you hearing his voice in the way that he made you and so i i really think we shouldn't be strange to be spiritual but we should be ourselves and let god use our voice in the natural way and something about that god just i just find the more i am who god called me to be and has called me uh to look like act like sound like the more i can relax and it doesn't mean i'm for everybody just like chris isn't for everybody although he's probably for more people than i am definitely yes i think that's part of it and when we talk about the school of prophets and we're bringing you guys in you know it's really important that we learn our authentic way that we hear god's voices and also authentically communicate god's words because we don't want you putting on something that's not you we want you to be prophetic everywhere so if i have to change my voice and change the way i think and change the way i talk for an atmosphere then it's not really authentic to my life and we want you to be spirit-led people not just a platform minister and that's really important you have this unique situation in that you have four boys at home oh hallelujah um you know a lot of a lot of my followers have seen you on the platform so they they they have a pretty good idea many of them will have a pretty good idea watch you minister listen to you teach behind the scenes what's it like to be a prophetess in your own home with a young family yeah and a boy i know and a husband what what's that like right i live with five men let's just talk about that which actually is not as complicated probably because i think that men are i've learned i've learned to talk man very very well in my life and i i realized that if a man is not happy and you've usually missed one of their basic needs which is food sleep being outside a hub some kind of touch or just to leave them alone that's one of their needs and so i learned that very quickly but i would say from my gift i grew up with again my parents were heard god in different ways and we talked about this that the way that i look at it is that you have four distinct prophetic personalities again you can be bilingual and they can mix but i like to look at it as a knower seer hear and feeler so my knowing is the knowing you know paul took timothy instinctively there was an intuitive sense to what god was calling him to do and for some of you you're intuitive that's how god speaks to you you just know that you know and that's it and there's no thus saith the lord and there's no open heaven it's just we're supposed to move here we're supposed to do this and that's it some of you are hearers which means you hear god saying specific things whether it's in worship or while you're driving in your car you get this phrase or you hear god say do this or do that and you're here i'd like to say it's the play-by-play you're kind of the the classic hearing god voice kind of people in our church and then we have the seers and your seers are your visionaries usually god gives a seer a vision and that vision will last them a lifetime and they'll be filled with hope and faith for it but they often struggle with the details of life because they have this big vision and it's going to take a lifetime to accomplish and then lastly you have your feelers i would say feelers are the least acknowledged in our environment uh not necessarily bethel i think bethel's done a really good job of acknowledging feelers but in general in the body of christ we've often been tagged as emotional or mystics but really it's somebody that god speaks to you in your emotions you feel god and usually it's linked to intercession god is giving you an emotion that he wants to partner you with so that you can begin to be uh hear his voice for the people that you're with your family the reason i'm going in all of that is because i grew up in a home that my dad used his prophetic gift to paradise so i've said this often but i grew up in a home where my dad would be ministering somewhere i remember distinctly being in high school and the phone rang he was at back east and he said have a look god woke me up and told me you're watching something you shouldn't be watching and he was absolutely he was right i mean it was terrifying and i said yes and you're right and i turned it off and so my dad really believed and my mom said this too that they that you can parent with the holy spirit so that you don't have to worry about everything and exhaust everything but allow him to lead you so for me i'm i'm learning i'm not an expert by any means and being a parent in this generation is no small thing it's complex but for me personally i'm trying to partner with the holy spirit to hear god's voice of how to parent my kids and not just do what i've always done or what my parents did or what i think is the right thing so i was thinking about this the other day one of my sons came home and he was clearly shut off not not angry not weepy just kind of shut off and i knew he was thinking about something and i didn't push it because i think it's really important we don't just push our kids and you know unless god's telling us to do that so i left him alone and i i asked the holy spirit what do you want me to do and i just heard the holy spirit say you need to get him away from his brothers and just ask him and so i had said to hudson hudson will you will you come upstairs let's have a conversation he was open and so we went into my bedroom and we sat there and i just said hudson what's going on i i feel like something might be wrong can you tell me and of course initially he is no mom it's fine you know why you always worry about it it's fine and i just and i finally just said i i feel like god told me there's something wrong and i never do i don't do that regularly because i think it's really important we don't manipulate our kids by saying god said or the lord wants you to when it's really you i i actually think it's i caution you to use this phrase because you should use it when it really got what you really save it up for the big one save it for the big line i always say don't die on small mountains and so i just said i really like god's telling me and he broke and began to cry he talked about him being picked on at school and somebody had said something and he couldn't get rid of it and and i we both god just kind of let it and i i just said thank you and we prayed and we talked about some strategy and you know what i knew at that moment that if i had not heard the voice of god at that moment i would never have caught up on it and i would have just chalked it up as he's tired or you know hormonal or whatever so i think i would say for me i you know i can't be everywhere you can't be everywhere some of you guys you know you're in the boardroom your kids are at home you know maybe your wife is over here your other kids over here and you're trying to figure out how to hear god and this is what's really important chris i know this is how we both feel about this is we don't want you to come to school profits because you think you're a props to the nations and that's the only people we want no no no we want anybody who wants to hear god's voice in a way that shapes culture and whether that be your home whether that be your church whether it be your city we want you to come so that you can hear the voice of god because we believe the voice of god changes everything and so that's what we're talking about and for me personally and guys i've done it well and i've done it miserably like where i've said things and my kids are like that's not it at all and i you know i've done it wrong we've all done it wrong uh but but prophetic is not something we perfect it's craig rochelle says it well and i love this analogy he said there are things in life problems to solve and there are other things in life where it's a tension to manage and i love that concept because sometimes we think the prophetic is a problem to solve i'm gonna hear god's voice and that's it i'm gonna speak god's voice and that's it but really it's intention to manage we just go okay i'm learning i'm ebbing and flowing in the culture i'm in in the season i'm in to hear his voice that was really long craig rochelle talked about it um in relationships and i i felt like that was an aha moment for me where you know like even my call and travel and kids and life sometimes i think i'm just going to have a problem solve i'm just going to solve it and be done and i know what's good and what's bad and what's right and what's wrong and when i realized that it's a tension that i that i actually managed it it gave me freedom to change the rules in different seasons of my life rather than it being good or bad does that make sense yeah and so craig rochelle will be the pastor of life church phenomenal leader what um out of those four personalities yeah yeah good question well i'll tell you what no words really feel like the least spiritual person in the room and most people that i meet will say oh my husband never hears god or you know my wife i just want her to like get a heart for god and you'll find that they're knowers that they don't have a thus saith the lord and dreams and all the stuff fancy stuff they just know that they know and they're steady eddie and that's in my life i've had to almost like validify and go you know what i just know that i know and instead of me thinking that i'm making just a good decision i'm going to validate it by saying i think god's saying this to me and what i've realized even with my husband i don't need to say god said but sometimes those around us if we're married you know or leading with the knower or hearing from the nowhere sometimes we got to use the words god said and wrap it up in that so that people actually know we're saying it in a spiritual way rather than just saying i think we should do this so i'm a knower i'm married to a feeler which is very interesting but you might be in a room with an unknown yeah yeah yes your uh your children are any of your children very prophetic that's a good question um did it like pass down that's insane well they're still young like my youngest is is nine and my oldest is fourteen and a half um and i can see that they each have like a hero feeler here i can see each of them operating in unique ways i think my my youngest is is similar to me he's not going to miss a thing he's just sharp he just catches it and my eldest is a feeler i mean he's just creative and i feel he's like his dad um and you know my middle my one of my little ones i don't really know if he even hears god so it all it'll all come out not i always say you can hear god a specific way but how i believe might be very different and when i'm prophesying over some in the room and you probably would identify all four of those come out so i could be ministering over someone and all of a sudden i have this emotion i feel for them from god or all of a sudden i see a picture of them or all of a sudden i just know god wants to say this so you can flip in all four of those in just one prophetic word so we're not getting pigeonholed into one we just are trying to give language to some of the things that we often are confused about that's so good well i'm excited to have you in the school of prophets after inviting you like 29 times yeah you just think i am i need to be smarter can follow you and you have truth to the table like your ministry has exploded since you quit me and yeah so okay so you can follow you on instagram on havela cunnington yeah my full name pablo pennington you need to spell it for this i know h a v as in victor i l a h h a v i l a h c u n n i n g t o and not cunningham but cunning10 and you can find us at truth to table like farm to fork truth to table and over there we empower the female voice as well as inspire the believer so our goal we we actually create a lot of bible studies and we take people through 15 20 30 day bible studies as well as i teach communicators so influencers so i have something called crash course it's communication and we talk about writing books and how to deliver a message and how to prep a message and how to go live so all the things i wish somebody had taught me as a minister and a voice we try to teach i try to kind of take you behind the scenes so you can see that god can use anyone and you don't have to be anything too special because he's special about so we do all of that but come find us and every january we lead a free bible study for around the world people all over the world we have 25 000 people and that's not an evangelistic number but we had 25 000 people join us for our last our last bible study called i do boundaries and we talked about boundaries so come join us i need to take that well after i did more of a reason i had to learn no no you needed that course before you did more remission and so school of profits august 2nd through the 6th on campus and by the way we're full on on campus now we kind of feel like we need to get people this you know like california's been so shut down i know our governor has been so strict you know whether you like that or not he's been so strict and now we're fully open so um if you've been thinking about coming on the campus i'd love to have you on campus by the way school ministry too uh this is like on campus and online wow and so then we also have online so school profits will be on campus and online love to see you um you can go to bethel.events to um to decide where you want to sign up and what you want to sign up for and get more information too incredible thank you so much i love you i love you it's we love you guys see you there god bless you

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Published: Fri Jul 16 2021