you absolutely have to pay attention to what's been happening the past couple of days multiple Toyota Tundras have blown engines and they were 202 24s not 2022 2023 is that's right the newest 2024 Tundras this is on top of the other issues that these Tundras have like leaking coolant squeaky brakes that never seem to be permanently fixed center consoles rattling tailgate gaps window seals they make a lot of noise and they have to be replaced and when they replace the window seals it's with the same parts that failed before Windows not rolling up and down properly and before you think I'm just some Toyota hater let me show you something real quick here we are in the garage here's one Toyota that I have Lexus RX 350 here's my other one of course the 5.7 let's just fire this bad boy up oh cold start look at that 229,000 Mi not bad so let's get back to what we were talking about earlier the 2020 24s that are also blowing here's the Facebook group post they're giving an update on their 2024 with the blown engine dealer finally confirmed they were will be replacing the short block under warranty they were very light on the details but pretty much confirmed that it was spun bearings again just like the 22s and 23s exactly the same problem he had 7,500 mil on the truck the next one was also a 2024 had a lemon law buyback because he only had a little over 3,000 mil on on the truck and if you guys didn't see this on another YouTube video 2022 Tundra that needed its third engine replacement at 49,000 Mi this is getting ridiculous and what's more coming across a video of someone needing their new engine and they remov the video my guess is Toyota probably made them a deal and said hey we'll make everything right or we'll buy your truck back if you remove the video because that's how Toyota plays if you watch tfl or any of these large TRD John any of these large channels they are total shills for Toyota and the reason they are is because they will not get invited to events they will not get invited to the engineering talks and all the other things where they produce their content little small Channel like me I don't care I'm just I've always been a Toyota fan and I want Toyota to do what they used to do which is build reliable cars at a fair price neither of those things are happening any more and the most interesting thing about this is the cost of the third gen engine is about $2,000 for the dealership to replace they have to remove the entire cab and split your truck into two get a new short block take all the parts off your old truck reinstall them to the new short block and then rebuild your truck and put the cab back on and test everything doesn't sound like the easiest path forward does it why aren't they just using crate engines and replacing everything that might have something to do with why we're seeing multiple replacements on single trucks and I promise this is maybe the last one I'll show maybe this guy says his son has his 2022 Tundra that needs its second engine replaced less than 35,000 miles fantastic you'll also notice that the new Tundras are starting to sit on Lots longer and they're starting to offer discounts new inventory oh look at that 45 Tundras available at my local dealership 27 Tacomas some of those are in transit but I've actually been to this dealer and filmed that you can go look at my previous videos I think the reason why people are starting to read forums they're starting to see things on YouTube and they're just not sure if they should pull the trigger yet it's just it's slowing down sales sure there's always going to be people with lots of money that only keep vehicles through the warranty period and they have no intention of keeping it past 60,000 miles and some people just buy extended warranties for these trucks to 100,000 and they're willing to take that chance because they just want all of the new features in these trucks going through my dealership here we've got a dealer adjustment of 500 dealer adjustment of 1,500 dealer adjustment 1,500 on The Limited 1,000 here 1250 here oh and we've got the 1794 edition with almost a $4,000 discount $2,000 cash offer you start to see a pattern here they're not selling these vehicles there's also lease deals that they were offering on the tundra and better financing than most of their other cars I believe the tundra was at 1.9% for 48 months also when you look at sales numbers you have to consider the people that are just buying these to keep them in warranty they don't care how reliable they are or if the engine blows up they're just going to rely on Toyota to fix the engine and some people are okay with that that's obviously there's a huge contingent of our population that is fine with paying 50 to 70 to 80,000 for these trucks having them potentially fail and it doesn't bug them whatsoever and I thought it was interesting in this Tundra Facebook group I started seeing posts like this they're looking to ship them or have people pick them up locally they're discounting even more $73,000 MSRP on the 1794 Crewmax and they're discounting them to 64760 this is TSB data coming in from dealerships engine completely shut off on me while I was driving on the highway barely had enough time to pull off the highway after I restarted it the engine had a knock that's the same exact problem with spun bearings that all of these people are having they had the engine rebuilt pursued Texas lemon law another one 45,000 Mi contact owns a 2022 Tundra the contact says that while her husband was driving a 30 mph vehicle stalled and the engine needed to be replaced so let's take a quick look at some sales numbers just to get an idea of how prevalent this is and it's not going to really tell us much because we don't know how many Tundras are actually failing but it sure looks like a lot to me they are selling more in 2024 I think that uh people thought that this problem had gone away there were a lot of people including the car care nut on YouTube that were saying saying that hey this was an early problem with the 22s and maybe 23s but the problem's gone it's clearly not gone and I'm a little disappointed that you know people rely on these I love the carare nut if you ever need Toyota advice he's he's good most the time but in this case he's absolutely wrong and then the the second problem they had an issue with Machining on the engines and the engines were basically seizing up and goodbye very early miles and they were going but I want to say one thing let me reiterate that one more time first year what I know most of you are going to say that are going to defend Toyota you're going to say yeah but they sold how many trucks I mean how many trucks did they sell you know in comparison to other brands how many other brands do you see that are having spun bearings in these vehicles and if you look here in 2023 they sold 125,000 Tundras 20 2 104,000 so they're they're way below you know a company like Ford or GM you know the numbers are very low compared to them but that's still a lot of trucks so someone's going to make the excuse that because they sold 125,000 and they only had let's say there was 100 or 200 failures the percentage is really low right now you don't know if yours is going to fail we've seen some at 45,000 fail and many people thought that this was one of those issues because it was spun bearings that the issue would come up early on with the engine and then you wouldn't see it if you made it past a certain mileage we're finding out that is not the case we see some with almost 50,000 miles and spun bearings so we'll see how this unfolds over time I truly I personally when the tundra came out I I thought it looked nice I liked the Interiors on them I didn't know of all these problems and I just wanted to hold off because I didn't want to buy bu a first model or second model year vehicle But as time rolls on it's clear to me that Toyota is not fixing the problems when you look at other YouTube channels they talk about the same thing they'll get things replaced but it's with the same failed part that replaced previously so same thing with the engines you see multiple engine Replacements I can't imagine having one of these vehicles out of warranty I think it would be a terrible idea um I don't see the these engines lasting nearly as long as the old 5.7 the old 5.7 was an absolutely legendary truck probably the best half ton the most reliable half ton you could buy in the past 20 25 years and just to prove this out this is what a lot of the old Tundras they made the old Tundra the second gen from 2008 to I think 20201 was when they manufactured this with the 5.7 L V8 and if you look you'll see this all you on car complaints and this is all TSB data so this car is a 9ye old nine model year old vehicle and look at look at how few problems are listed here two in the drivetrain two for the interior I mean th this is one of the if not the most reliable vehicle I just want a reliable powertrain and even in the worst case scenario if you look at the previous gen Tundra with the 5.7 L you could replace that engine with a crate engine for probably $8 or $9,000 the new one cost 30 so even in your worst case with that old Tundra if you had a transmission or a engine failure it's it's not going to ruin you financially it's not going to wreck your your life you're going to be able to move on put a new engine or transmission in it at two or 300,000 miles if you happen to have one of the rare problems and it's not going to kill you this new one is absolutely ridiculous how much it costs and when you consider that this new tundra costs between 50 I haven't seen one below 50 for an SR5 you're talking 50,000 to probably $82 $85,000 range the standard needs to be raised Toyota it's time to fix these problems we've we've waited a few years I would love to look at a new tundra uh as a potential replacement for my Toyota seoa and there is absolutely no way I could recommend it to anyone else and I couldn't buy one myself even if I'm writing it off for my YouTube business I couldn't do that it just wouldn't make sense to me I have to rely on it to go over the mountains I want to rely on this vehicle not to fail in traffic not to fail when I'm towing and I wouldn't trust it given the data I've seen if I were to buy a half ton right now there's probably not a new half ton on the market that I could recommend to anybody as far as just a reliable vehicle sure if you've got a warranty you can take it in if you're close to a dealership you might need to get a tow or have roadside assistance in your insurance but I'm just not willing to play that game if I was to buy a half ton right now I would for sure look at the 2021 and older Tundras I'd probably even go back to the ones that had the transmission cooler in them from the factory um and I would just save my money you could buy two or three of those Tundras for the price of one of these new ones and you know that thing's going to last you forever it I guess really the problem is that people are any more more just they're okay with this poor quality and it's across the board it's it's with Ford it's with GM everybody you see the new Duramax has the wet oil pump belt you you have uh oil issues oil consumption issues on the Duramax they're installing catch cans to prevent the heat soak the 5.3 is and 6. tws from GM have lifter issues with their active fuel management and the new ones Ford EcoBoost you can see those still still having issues but across the board all of these manufacturers I wouldn't recommend one to anybody unless you just if you hate money buy one of these new trucks so Toyota please please please fix the problem and then you won't have YouTubers and other people coming on and saying hey these are junk don't buy them I can't recommend it imagine later on once these vehicles get into the secondhand Market you've got these 50 to $80,000 vehicles and then they're being they'll be driven two four 5 years and then they'll be out of that powertrain warranty what's the next guy going to do when they buy a a Tundra with 60 to 880,000 miles on it they end up spending 4 or $50,000 because the truck was originally 80,000 and they think they're getting a sweet deal and they think they're getting Toyota's legendary reliability but they're not and then that engine fails you know what's going to happen is somebody's going to eat it trade the truck in get rid of it I don't know how how this is going to work in the secondhand Market once we get past this powertrain warranty and all of these vehicles all these new vehicles we're going to it's going to be hell to pay for the lenders I don't think any of these turbocharged engines are going to be reliable I think they're going to start having you've got dual water pump issues you've got multiple radiators and intercoolers you've got all sorts of Plumbing that can go wrong I I don't think they're going to last anywhere near as long as the old 57 did time will tell I could be completely wrong it's going to be interesting to watch it unfold I know I won't be buying one if I buy anything it'll be one of the previous gen Tundras I've had nothing but good luck with it I tow up the ike Gauntlet all the time and it does just fine I can go 55 or 60 toone my boat it's whatever I'm just tired of seeing these posts and forms I'm tired of seeing people pay 50 to $80,000 for these vehicles and really that's the problem is there there's this Upper Crust of people that are totally fine with spending that money and they they don't own the trucks ever right these people most the people aren't buying them cash I'd say 99% of people they think they own their truck hey if you don't have the title in the safe in your house or something it's not your truck got news for you you just owe the bank a bunch of money that's it anyway until next time
