2019-06-14 NSFRI NSDRM - What Can You Learn From a Daydream?

that look for a few minutes I would just like to talk about the choice I have it for there you go it's an old subject but I'd like to hit it once more what can you learn from a daydream the 4th days for things that are terribly important about every syncopation that you have to recall what preceded what preceded the daydream what was his life after it was over okay third you must always get a full description of the image of yourself than the danger the description of use of the images you must destroy it carefully the image of yourself that occurs and the first first opening of the daydream where you appear state of mind Thanks every day dreams and a failure therefore you have to control your state of mind what if it's like after the danger write it out describe it in detail now notice we don't care about the story of the danger that is of no importance that's what I called the drama why because you to take a look and see whether or not implicit in that image Hey whether implicit in that image this is the entire drama therefore a daydream is of vital importance because it's telling you that this image that occurs in patrons you want to discover where it comes from and its history right personal history where does it come from you want to see where it gets its power to see and you'll only to discover that if you go back to its origin so it's what is the personal history of that image that should be image at the end there yes what is the personal history of that image and that date right okay that's where it gets its power no so they're vitally important they're always telling us something important about ourselves that you want to reflect upon so you can see because wherever this image plays itself out in your life you know what that means that means you are you are setting up in your mind patterns of behavior and you can just step into them in reality whether you like it or not since you've been training yourself you're dangerous what to do they're always dangerous because they come out of that image okay I just it just occurred means that you can take the image of yourself in a dream and put it down here want America seven of dreams and a dream that's right so what's the difference between like the fantasy of a desire versus like age I don't know what a fact is to have a desire my wanting to do something pardon to have an image of yourself yes okay terrible isn't it to call it a day pretty no [Music] daydreams never have plans that you can follow because it'll leave out what you have to do to go up for the show okay compared with dreams that two questions one doesn't help to have to talk about it with someone else to have a midwife absolutely because you'll see things secondly because then you're making it real to yourself the luggage once you put it into words to put in your creating into words your stage let's participate in logos because wasn't that you cannot do without a midwife but I think so you're saying you cannot be real to yourself without a midwife is that the implication well look some people can do it some people can do midwifery without a midwife and that's why we retain the earlier because he has no bed waters right but we have to be brought to sing his problem which you can only see with the death of something he truly loved what's created a partner in this ideal friends the trunk of a tree those kinds of things will wake you up no I can't get a good friend and hope you guys are trying to do and you're the responsible for what's happened to me stop talking [Laughter] the park that I'm disconnecting on is that you will make it real for yourself it's really watch I believe those were your that's your phraseology right on it you will make it real for yourself through the process of having a midwife go should the reason why you need a midwife no it's the way you're going to think that's going to be using the very terms that are suspect in your own reasoning and someone else was more likely to spot that oh there's no language you know I see that you would not pick up but I'm still missing the connection it's probably pretty obvious but I'm missing it how does that bring you to making it real for yourself I guess I'm not really sure what I mean by that well the experience of what a plaque should have said something to your father and your mother yeah wouldn't have made any difference yes we'll have done that in this group and found out later that they did not really have a complete understanding of what they were saying Tillman Jr yeah so I'm saying only yes but only under the condition that I'm not just acting out of anger but that I see the whole picture I see a whole unity of it no so I know it know that under those conditions what difference does that make stronger charming well in my terms I would say I see what you're saying now what that means is that it closes a loop it ends it's it's it's it's getting the ransom in Ely attic terms but for me I like going a little further with it in the sense of I think we I think we concluded that getting the ransom the true ransom in the eleatic sense from the parent by going back and telling them having once even seen the unity of it not only how it affected you but how it affected them includes not just voicing it to them that's crucial to what you're saying but it also includes if possible be wiping them let me ask Julie thank you did a reflection have any effect on him yeah what we did is put it into words true what does that do putting a mentor well I realized I wasn't talking I wasn't putting into words how important these are you said why because you're telling yourself something about yourself and it also was up to that time you were carrying a about yourself that you are them assuming that's not real look what fortune he was getting for a change of time next week no dreams I would like to stay on Homer book 9 is terribly important it's homers Hey the Tomer is vision of Achilles you're gonna play shed and that's book 9 second question on your last insights in today besides the midwife it seems to me there's another comparison with DreamWorks and this one is different it seems interested in the content which is different thing with dreams you can find a content 5-1 if you ask what's your clients story or the Dragons that show up in your life absolutely but you can also do that with dreams why what makes what is so different about daydreams qualitatively different that the content is of no importance at all like for you to say the content of the story of the drama has no importance at all this to say that there is no analogical or metaphorical information can be mined from it as opposed to a dream you can find it if you want the point is it's the important thing to recognize where it comes from it comes from that image yes you might do all kinds of things with a drummer but you see very often people might have daydreams that they don't want to talk about well sure forget about the content let's just do it this way sure then they'll be able to see whatever problem they do have something I want to talk about the image that produced it okay so I see where you're going saying you could Midwife someone and they don't have to get into the embarrassing part or whatever they can still go back and look on their life sure baby mine however if you were working on it with yourself afterwards much like you can with and now that you get the mind after after that but each of the story reveals further like a way to look at books what would happen if I invited people who knew me and each one of them knew I have a problem and they're addressing it and they're bringing everything they know about me and sure we have history reoccupation also culturally clear that everybody there the whole approach is timing didn't over a killer you're strong they are spanning tree no one is upset over it yeah oh yeah this is what happened sir yeah yeah you're one of those heroes by the way that's the last moment he'll fight of course you won't get any reward she won't get any sense of victory yeah they know at all therefore they tolerated someone's front lawn I'd like to see how to watch it play itself out that he which are okay so unless you have some dream that seems urgent right we're going to spend the time on homer and compare especially nine and eleven if we have enough time you

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Published: Thu Jun 20 2019