<i> This is</i> Couples Court
With The Cutlers. This is the case
of John Vs. Willette. Uh, you all have
been together
for five years and engaged
for four years JUDGE KEITH:
Uh, Ms. John... Yeah. ...why have you brought
your fiance to court today? I brought him here today
because I feel
that he's cheating on me. Uh, he's extra friendly
with people in
the neighborhood. Mr. Cutler is
extra friendly with
our neighbor, so what does
that mean? (LAUGHING) Do I need to be
worried? Do I need to be
eyeballing or something? Tell me what that means. He just goes out of his way
to help them do stuff to their yard, if they're
working on their car, he goes out of his way
to help them do that. Just goes out of his way
to help them. JUDGE DANA: Okay. And you believe it's
beyond just friendly? JOHN: Yeah, I do.
That's what she's thinking.
She's thinking that. You know, I feel like
it's all a cover up for
what she's doing. Yeah, well, but
it ain't about me. Well, Mr. Willette,
in terms of what
you're doing, are you
a friendly person? Of course,
I'm always friendly. JUDGE KEITH: Do you go out of
your way to help your neighbors? Of course I do,
every day. I try to make
everybody happy. Especially her. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) JUDGE KEITH: All right. JUDGE DANA: He's Mr. Rodgers. JUDGE KEITH: That's probably-- Are you cheating? She can accuse me
all day but I'm not cheating. That's what I want to tell her
but she don't believe me. There's too much
sneaky stuff going on.
I'm too faithful... If I wanted to cheat
on somebody,
I would be single. There'd be no reason for me
to even be in a relationship. So, you believe
she's doing this to deflect about what
she maybe doing. It's a guilty conscious,
that's what I'm thinking. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) Okay, well, I mean, because he's
a friendly person, there must be
one of the things that attracted
you to him. Yeah, it was one of the things
but the extra stuff, and like, he won't ever leave
his cellphone alone.
WILLETTE: What extra stuff? He takes it in the shower
with him, he sleeps with it
next to his head, If I have to look at it,
he takes it and gives it to me
15 minutes later.
My phone is always... So I never
get to touch it.
...in the pocket. Okay, so, you all
have been together
for five years, you've been engaged
for four years, what was the first sign
that something went wrong? Um, it was probably about
three months ago,
he started working and he'll tell me
he's working
an over night shift, it's just him and
a guy working, when I pick him up
in the morning, it's him
and a female working. His excuse is that
the schedule changed
but it's always something. But I'm always working. JUDGE KEITH: Okay, so-- What can I do at work? The nights that there's
a female coworker,
I'll text him, I don't get a text back. It's just that if it's a male
coworker, he'll text right back
all night, back and forth, if it's a female, I barely
get texted all night
while he's working. It's a something in your gut
that's telling you-- Yeah. Making you say, "Hm." Are you not responsive
when you have
a female coworker? I'm responsive when
I get a chance to. I'm working. I can't just pick up
the phone whenever-- What if I have a customer
and she texted me at that time
but I'm helping out two, three
different customers.
Which is a little convenient that when it's a girl,
he can't text me back. JUDGE KEITH: Well, here's
the thing, Mr. Willette. I'm gonna let you in
on this secret, okay? (ALL LAUGHING) Women detect patterns. Ah, he's speaking truth. They detect them
very quickly. And the pattern is, when
there's a female coworker,
you aren't texting back as frequently as when
there's a male coworker. You probably
don't even know it. Women pick up on that,
I'm telling you.
Probably. If you don't get
anything else
from today, get that women
pick up on patterns. (LAUGHING)
(AUDIENCE CLAPPING) So... So, Mr. Cutler,
you paid attention. I'm paying attention. I'm on it to switch it up because you didn't learn-- I figured it out now, yeah. Ah! Okay, Ms. John, we've got
the failing to text, you got him as "Mr. Friendlier
the neighborhood", Mm-hm. What else do you have?
WILLETTE:
And do you got proof? There will be money
missing out of
our joint bank account, just like $5 or $10
here, there and when I ask him
where it went, he'll say
he bought cigarettes or something to that nature. But he just bought cigarettes
like an hour before that.
I'm a smoker. Where do you think he's taking
a woman for $5 or $10? (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) WILLETTE: I don't know... On the regular,
on the regular, not just here and there. I don't think necessarily
he's taking 'em out, maybe like them borrow money, or you know, grab
an ... drink or something, that's our money,
we work hard for it. So it shouldn't be spent
on no other female. Period. It don't matter
how much it is. All right, so, Mr. Willette,
you think all of this is just
her deflecting. Exactly what it is.
I have this gut feeling
that just-- Something in my gut
is telling me
its a guilty conscience. That's the reason why
she's trying to accuse me
for something so she can cover up
what she's trying
to cover up with. So what do you think
she's deflecting? I-- I don't know.
(STAMMERING) I'm thinking, you know,
she's kinda extra close
with my roommate, like... and-- AUDIENCE: Ooh. Extra close. They be gone
for hours at a time, like,
literally, hours at a time. Going to the store to get milk,
they'd be gone for two hours. One day, they went out
to get milk, two hours goes by, three hours go by, four hours,
11 hours later they come back. They had to go to
Jacksonville to go
feed their mom's cat. (LAUGHING) Okay, wait!
WILLETTE:
11 hours it takes. So you think she's
cheating with your roommate? (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) WILLETTE:
I have a gut feeling. JUDGE DANA: So, Cutler,
we have her side, we have his side,
now we need
the roommate's side. JUDGE KEITH: Okay, all right. That roommate is here. Ron, would you escort her
into the court room? RON: Yes, your honor. Right over here. JUDGE DANA: Would you please
state your name for the court? Stacy Herrera. All right, Ms. Herrera,
now, how do you know
Ms. John? Uh, my roommate. All right, and you're also
roommates with Mr. Willette. Yes. How long have you all
been living together? For between
four to five months. All right, so, what
do you know about Ms. John's and
Mr. Willette's relationship? Do you believe
he's cheating? Uh, there's points I do. JUDGE KEITH: Okay,
why do you believe that? He's out, he'll go
somewhere and say
he's going one place and then we'll run into him
and he's like, "Oh, well, "I'm just coming back
from getting this",
and he's empty handed. So that makes you think
that he is cheating? Yeah, I mean, its secretive
and its just something
that shouldn't be like, "Oh, well, his friends says this
and he says something else." It just don't make no sense to me at all.
It makes no sense to me. Mr. Willette, did this occur
that you were going for a friend and didn't come back
with the items? No, no. It didn't even
go down like that. But they could be covering up
for wherever
you're really going. They don't really--
That's what you guys
are covering up something for which y'all are doing,
trying to blame me. trying to blame me. She's obviously doing
something with her. They're always together. For hours at a time
they're gone. What do I know?
They're texting each other
in the same room. So you believe these two
are sexually involved? Yes, your honor. Wait, you believe
that your... I actually found-- fiance and your roommate are involved
with each other? It's so rare, right? Yes. JUDGE KEITH: Why
do you believe that? I-- I've found a pair of her panties
on my bedroom floor. What are they doing
on my bedroom floor? She don't-- We live together,
we do our laundry together. But you don't--
Our laundries
are separate. Okay, wait,
who's panties? Ms. Herrera's. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) What are they doing
in my room?
On my bedroom floor? If they got mixed up
in the laundry, why are they on the floor
and not in the laundry? (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) Okay, so, did he find
a pair of your panties
in the bedroom? HERRERA: He did. Okay, can you explain to me why
your panties are in his room? WILLETTE: Why? Is it-- Why? She does laundry,
sometimes it'll get mixed up
in the washer, in the dryer. I mean, there's total of three
of us living there along
with my two kids. It's an easy mix up. The laundry gets put
everywhere. Ms. Herrera,
what is the nature
of yours relationship? We're friends. Are you more than friends? No. So, basically, Ms. John
and Mr. Willette,
this is a relationship completely devoid of trust.
Is that a safe statement? Yes. At this moment. JUDGE DANA:
Five year relationship
and no trust. Four years of engagement
and no trust. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) JUDGE KEITH: All right, because we've had
these allegations, the court has ordered
a forensic analysis on
both of your cellphones and we have the results. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) At this time, the court
will call cyber security
expert, Mr. Gregory Evans. Ron, would you please escort
Mr. Evans into the court room? RON: Yes, your honor. How are you, Mr. Evans?
I'm doing great.
Yourselves? Good to see you again. Good to see you. Now, Mr. Evans,
she believes that he... Yes. ...you know, erases
information from his phone. Right. And so, with a forensic
examination, you can recover
deleted information, correct? I can recover deleted
text messages, e-mails, uh, pictures, videos,
anything that's stored
on a person's phone can be recovered. So you were given both
the plaintiff and
the defendant's phone for analysis, correct? Yes, your honor.
All right,
what did you find? Well, I got to put
my glasses on for this one. (ALL LAUGHING) For hours at a time,
they're gone. All right, well, let's
start with the first one
what I found. It's this message here
from Ms. John. JUDGE KEITH: Okay, it says, "I just want to be able
to make you happy
as your girlfriend, your wife, your best friend
and especially make you happy and satisfy you
in the bedroom." You're telling him I want to be
the best woman to you
that I can be. Yes. How does that
make you feel? Great. It's--
That's what I need,
that's what I want. That's what I got into
this relationship for. To, you know what I'm saying?
Make 100% of us together. JUDGE KEITH: And when you got
these text messages-- You know-- I'm sorry? When you got these text
messages, you smiled? Of course, I did. (AUDIENCE AWING) Did you find anything else,
Mr. Evans? Oh yeah! I mean, yes, your honor,
I'm sorry.
(ALL LAUGHING) This one is of
Mr. Willette. I don't know
if he has aspirations
of being a model, or get a sock contract. Well, do tell. Mm. Let me explain this
to the court. Uh, Mr. Willette,
I'm seeing more of you
than I ever wanted. (ALL LAUGHING) Um, and,
you seem to be... JUDGE KEITH: Hanging in
a reclining position uh, with no clothes on
except for a sock. JUDGE DANA: In a-- But the sock is
not on your foot. (ALL LAUGHING) Okay... So, you understand
what it looks like. Oh, I know
that picture. She took it. All right, and-- Who was
this photo for? Well, she actually took it. JUDGE DANA: Well,
this was for you. Adult play. Supposedly for me. JUDGE DANA:
All right. Can you tell
whether this was sent
to any other women? I did check for that.
I did not see it was sent
to any other women except for her. All right, did you find
any evidence that suggest either party
might be cheating? Okay, now,
this is what I do have
for you here, your honor. So this is a text message
from Ms. John to Mr. Willette. Correct. At 2:19 AM and it says,
"I am your wife
and I want you home. "Where the blank
are you now?" So, did he respond
to this text message? He did not respond to her
but at the exact same time, he did respond to
this young lady here. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) JUDGE DANA: So,
at the exact same time, she's asking,
"Where are you?
I want you home." He's texting
another woman.
EVANS: That's correct. EVANS:
That is correct.
JUDGE DANA: All right. JUDGE DANA: And so he says, JUDGE KEITH: "Dang, so we
can chill tonight? Me and you? "Yes or no?" JUDGE DANA: And she responds,
"Where's Tina?" Which is Ms. John. JUDGE KEITH: That, "At housee,
I'm on your steps",
is his response. JUDGE DANA: "Oh, you can chill
for a minute, then I got to go." JUDGE KEITH: And he responds,
"You and me alone,
laugh out loud" Okay, were you at someone
else's house at 2:19
in the morning? Yeah, yeah, I was. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) JUDGE KEITH: Okay,
another woman's house? Yes. Okay, what were you doing
at another woman's house
at 2:19 AM? Well, she had to owe me
some money, so I was trying to-- JOHN: So you're
trying to hang out at 2 o'clock
in the morning? Yeah, trying-- JOHN: You were trying to
hang out at 2 o'clock
in the morning? Could've went to your home boy's
house, you didn't have to go
to a female house. Go sit outside,
go to a different room. Okay, "Dangs, so, we can chill
tonight, me and you." That doesn't sound
like any bill collector
I've ever-- (ALL LAUGHING) I know it sounds crazy, but... JUDGE DANA:
Okay, so Mr. Willette,
here's what I'm observing. All up until now,
you've been smooth. Now that we asking you
the hard questions, you fumbling
all over yourself. So I'm gonna give you
one more chance. Were you with
another woman? Sexually? No. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE DANA: Okay,
so how are you feeling about what he's telling you?
Are you buying any of this? No. Not at all. It's surprising,
hurt, kind of a numb feeling. After all that we've discussed
today, what do you want
to say to your boyfriend? Or your fiance? That, I want to start-- I want him to start
being more honest and I want to
work things out and, you know, do whatever
we have to do to
move forward in our relationship. It's gonna be hard. JUDGE DANA: What do
you need him to do? I need him to come clean
and let me know everything
that he's done. JUDGE DANA: Well,
I have a question for you. He's accused you of being
in a sexual relationship
with your roommate. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) Have you been in
a sexual relationship
with Ms. Herrera? Her and I have
messed around,
yeah. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
But it hasn't been
a relationship. That proves everything
right there. That's crazy. JUDGE KEITH: So, you and
Ms. Herrera, your roommate, have been
sexually involved. HERRERA AND JOHN: Yes. How did that happen? Obviously, I was going
through stuff with him
and the lies and we just kinda
relied on each other and it-- That makes it okay then? Having drinks one night,
it kinda-- Led to another. Led one thing
to another. Was this a one time
sexual contact? Or have you been together
more than once? It's been more than
once, but-- That's even worse. How often have you
had contact? I say less than five. I was going to say two. Less than five, yeah. When was the last time
you all were together? A month ago? Um, yeah, it's been
about a month. (AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING) WILLETTE: I worked
so damn hard for this. That makes no sense. What did I do all this for?
For what? But you suspected that,
didn't you? Yeah, I had that gut feeling.
My gut feeling's always right. And now your gut feeling
has been confirmed. Confirmed. All right, so
now that you have
this information, yes, this is a hard question,
but what are you going to do? Are you going to stay engaged
to your fiance, you've always
been together for five years. I don't even know
what to say. I have to sit down
and think about this one.
This is-- You don't know if you want
to go forward, you're saying you want
to go forward and try
to work through this. <i> This is</i> Couples Court
With The Cutlers. This is the case of<i>
Mathis v.s Haid.</i> You all are dating,
you've been together
for two years, you've talked about
marriage, but claims of infidelity
are just rocking
this relationship. Is that right, Mr. Mathis? Yes, Your Honor, it is. Now, I noticed on
the court papers there's a 17-year age
difference between you and
Ms. Haid, is that right? Yes. Yes, Your Honor. How did you all meet? Uh, we met on Instagram,
social media. I got her like a job thing. So I was looking at girls
who want jobs, and I came across her profile,
Rocky's profile, and, uh, I just remember
thinking she'll make somebody
a good wife one day. Not me... JUDGE KEITH: Just somebody. Just somebody, yeah. All right. Somebody a good wife. Yeah, like... Okay, so how
do you go from she gonna make somebody
a good wife to, "Well, wait a minute,
maybe it's me that's
she gonna make a good wife"? I get a message in my DM
one day saying, "Hey, I noticed
you've been watching me. "What's up?
Do you know about
astral projection?" And we into metaphysics
and things like that. Okay, astral projection? KAMERON MATHIS:
Astral projection. Okay, all right. So you...
So is this true you realized
he was checking you out and you said... ROUKIYA HAID: That's true,
Your Honor. We talked, and we found out
about each other and
what we're interested in, and, you know,
he caught my attention. So you all start corresponding. HAID: Yes. JUDGE KEITH: What made you
fall in love with him? He made me feel secure because at that time
I was going through
things with my family, and it wasn't the best,
and I had to get out of there. He was willing to
help me out and made me
feel secure, protected, and that's what I needed
at that time. You don't have to be in that
with someone who's willing
to love you. Yeah, that connection,
that spark was there
from the very beginning. You connecting? See, we just connected
right now, she didn't
even know it. (AUDIENCE LAUGH) JUDGE KEITH:
That's what it looks like. When you just connect, I mean,
you only have to... Why you gonna make me blush
in front of this? You don't have to say anything,
you don't have to do anything,
you just feel the connection. Mmm-hmm. See? See?
You feel it? Stop it, Mr. Cutler. See? That's what it
looks like, right? Yeah. And that's what you all felt. JUDGE DANA: So, Mr. Mathis, why in the world are you here
claiming she's cheating? Well, first thing is
this right here. JUDGE KEITH: What is that? It's a text message
that I have. Where did you get
the text message from? Out her phone when
I was sneaking in it. (AUDIENCE GASPING) JUDGE KEITH: So... Your Honor, let's make
this clear, I don't invade
his privacy at all, so I think that's really
pure disrespect for you to come behind my back
and go through my phone. So, let's take a look
at this message. Would you
grab that for me? Yes. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, sir. Your Honor. JUDGE DANA: Okay. JUDGE KEITH:
Some other guy
has written, "Your love life, remember?
We need to work on that." JUDGE DANA: "Yes, I would
love another reading with you." JUDGE KEITH: "And I would love
to have your beautiful energy
in my space again. "You know where my dorm is." (AUDIENCE GASPING) Your Honor,
I can explain that. All right, we want
an explanation for that. Really, originally
the only reason I went
to him is for him to do a reading on me
and his relationship. And, uh... So he's talking about
your love life? HAID: Yes. MATHIS: Sound good. And you have gone to him
about your love life? Yes, to get a tarot reading. And he's the only one
that does that, and we go to school together.
We're just friends. JUDGE DANA: And so, Mr. Mathis,
you're not buying this. Sound good.
You know everything
just sound good. Here's my problem.
Okay, you go to someone,
Ms. Haid, who does a reading, does a reading,
tells you what he thinks... HAID: Right. JUDGE KEITH: He wants
your beautiful energy
in his space. Thank you. You Honor, that means nothing. There's plenty of people
who have beautiful energy. You say it means nothing. HAID: Right. I would love to have
your beautiful energy
in my space. I want my beautiful energy
in your space. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) Okay. That's, that's mutual. HAID: Your Honor. Those are powerful words. (LAUGHING) (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) You just don't say that
to everybody. Right, it's strictly platonic. You're asking for honesty
in this relationship,
isn't that right? What starts in deception
ends in deception. So my thing is
to keep this growing. When issues arise,
we need to tackle them. And you need to attack them
with honesty. MATHIS: Right. And truth. MATHIS: Right. So, Mr. Mathis have you found
anything else that make you
think she's cheating? Yes. JUDGE KEITH:
What have you found? One more thing I found is this old nice
hotel towel laying on the bed. You know,
hotel towels 'cause of
the threads in it. Yeah. So you found a towel,
where did you find this towel? In my house. Okay, Ron, would you get
this piece of evidence
for us, please You can check it out. Thank you, sir. 'Cause towels
are supposed to be
in your house. No, that don't look like
somebody took a towel
and showered in it. They look like somebody say,
"Let me lay this out." JUDGE DANA: Okay,
this is the towel
you put down on the bed? After the shower, yes, ma'am. And this is what you use
to dry your hair with? HAID: Yes. Okay, do you dry your hair
dragging it across the bed? I mean, I don't understand
why it's laid out like that. HAID: No, Your Honor, I was... Like angel wings,
you lay down in the snow
and do like that. Do like that. HAID: No, Your Honor. No. Look at them hair prints
above the towel. You all see that all upon it?
Come on, man. All of this has led to
no trust in this relationship. HAID: Yes. We noticed
in the court papers
that you're still married. (AUDIENCE GASPING) Is that correct? JUDGE DANA: All right... JUDGE KEITH:
You are a married man. MATHIS: You see
what I've dealt with? HAID: He is, Your Honor, and I just found that out. I'm busted. (AUDIENCE GASPING) He's been hiding it
for two years, Your Honor. Okay, wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute. AUDIENCE: Aw! You've been with this man
for two years? Yes, Your Honor,
and he's been hiding it
for two years. He's standing over here
talking about honesty, but he's the one who hasn't
been honest with me
from the very jump. When did you find out
that he was still married? HAID: About last week,
he told me. (AUDIENCE GASPING) JUDGE DANA: So you know
for a week that this man,
who is your knight
in shining armor... Yes, Your Honor. ...has been married
the entire time. Yes, Your Honor,
and I feel betrayed. Like, not only that
and he has children
as well. (AUDIENCE GASPING) And you didn't know
he had kids? HAID: He didn't tell me none. MATHIS:
Can I defend myself? JUDGE DANA: What... Can I defend myself,
I mean... JUDGE DANA: Okay, tell me. ...y'all talking like
I ain't here, Your Honor. It's okay? Okay, well,
let me explain. I thought it was just a phase. JUDGE KEITH: You thought
your marriage was just
a phase? No. (LAUGHS) I thought the relationship
between her, and I was
just a phase. When I, when I... I had no intentions on
actually, like,
going this far with her. HAID: Still, he should
give me the choice. MATHIS: It was... It was an Instagram thing.
I'm thinking this an Instagram
fling, whatever, whatever, it's gonna blow over... Okay, wait a minute.
Hold up, hold up. All right, let's just go
with that. But do you think at month six
you might mention your kids
or your wife? But the thing is,
we separated... JUDGE DANA: What about
month nine? What about month nine?
Is that when you finally say
"I'm married and I got kids"? What about
18 months in,
do you say, "By the way when you
get through with
the grocery store "I need to talk to you
about my wife and my kids"?
When do you... Right. Right. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) When is the magic moment
that you drop the bomb, "I'm married and I got kids." When does that happen? I planned on doing that
according to how we were
going to be in a relationship. And that was... But you already said, "What starts in deception
ends in deception." MATHIS: Exactly. JUDGE DANA:
And you know what? Because we want to know
about the deception, and we wanna know
what's true, your wife is here. (AUDIENCE CHEERING) All right. Wait a minute. JUDGE DANA: So,
we gonna find out. Y'all some blood hounds. But first... Before we get to that... (MATHIS LAUGHING) We gonna find out what's
going on with Ms. Haid and then we gonna find out
what's going on with you. (AUDIENCE CHEERING) Right now, we still
have allegations, Ms. Haid,
that you're not
being truthful to him. Now, we're gonna find out
about his issues, but what we have here is
you getting text messages
from someone who says they want
your beautiful energy
in their space. And he comes home
and finds the towel
spread out on the bed in a position that leads
him to believe that you were
using that towel to have
sex with somebody else. And all of this is fueling
his suspicion that you're
cheating on him. This court has conducted
a full investigation to find out whether
she is cheating. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) At this time the court would
like to call licensed and certified
polygraph examiner
Kendall Shull. Ron, would you please
escort him to the courtroom. Yes, Your Honor. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) Kendall Shull. (SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) JUDGE DANA: Mr. Shull,
good day. SHULL: Good day, Your Honor. JUDGE DANA: Glad to have you. SHULL: Good to be here. You conducted a polygraph
examination of Ms. Haid,
is that correct? I did, Your Honor. JUDGE DANA:
And she was asked "Since the beginning of your
relationship with Mr. Mathis "in February of 2016 "have you had
sexual intercourse
with any other man?' What was her response? Her response was no. JUDGE DANA: And what did
the lie detector determine? The lie detector determined
that she was being truthful, Your Honor. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) JUDGE DANA: All right. So we have one person
that is being truthful... We got one person
being truthful, Ms. Haid. On that question. JUDGE DANA: On that...
Well, that is the question. That was the question.
You came here for
an answer. You said she was cheating, and the polygraph says
she has not cheated. He's the one
with the secrets. JUDGE DANA: Now we about to
find out about you, Mr. Mathis. Because,
we've heard your side, and we've heard her side, now it's time
to hear from
your wife's side. (AUDIENCE CHEERING) Ms. Haid, you never
seen this woman, you never met this woman... Never, not once. Ron, would you please
escort her into
the courtroom. RON: Yes, Your Honor. (CHUCKLES NERVOUSLY) Mr. Mathis, you bouncing
around like a pinball.
Are you nervous? What you nervous about? Why you nervous? (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) JUDGE KEITH: Good day, ma'am,
how are you? TIFFANY MATHIS:
All right,
how are you? Would you state
your name, please? Yes, I am Tiffany Mathis. JUDGE KEITH: And, Ms. Mathis,
what is your relationship to
Mr. Kameron Mathis? TIFFANY: Um, that's my husband,
but we're separated. But you're still
legally married. Yes, legally. Yes. AUDIENCE: Aw. Were you aware
of Ms. Haid? No. How often do you
see Mr. Mathis? He comes by periodically
'cause he comes to see
his children and we were just intimate,
like, Saturday, so... (AUDIENCE GASPING) What? JUDGE KEITH: So you are still
in an intimate relationship
with Mr. Mathis? Yes. So when he comes by
to see the kids, he comes by to see you too? (CHUCKLES) Well, not all... (CHUCKLES)
Not all the time. When I get that itch,
he's just the one that
wanna scratch. (AUDIENCE GASPING) JUDGE KEITH: And this has
been going on... Wow! ...pretty much the time
you've been separated? Yes. (SIGHS) So even during this last
two years you've been
getting scratched? No, he's been getting
scratched, not me. JUDGE DANA: Oh! (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) This is probably one of
the biggest shocks
we've had in this courtroom, because I've not had someone
come here accusing someone,
who's innocent, who is really running game. You ain't doing nothing
but running game. You can
call it what you want, you can call it taking care
of my baby mama, you can
call it whatever you want. But you've got this young lady
living with her, making her life a living hell, accusing her,
and making her
uncomfortable, when you doing
your own thing. And I heard him talking
about being truthful, when he's,
he's not being truthful. JUDGE DANA: Mr. Mathis,
you can... I... Uh... Uh... Uh. You have talked enough.
Now I'm gonna get to talk. TIFFANY: I'm not
surprised. You came here trying to get honesty
in your relationship and find out if
she's being truthful, and you're the one
that's being deceptive. Well, then I'll say
what start... JUDGE DANA: You say that... The only thing that
you said was true is what starts in deception
ends in deception. What just happened Saturday with Ms. Mathis? She said you all were intimate. Yeah, that's just me trying to
make sure things right with
my baby mama, I mean... (ALL LAUGHING) Your Honor... JUDGE KEITH: Well,
let me ask this question. Let me just put it out there
so we all clear. Who's on the side? JUDGE DANA: Is it Ms. Haid,
or is it Ms. Mathis? I mean... JUDGE DANA:
Who's the side chick in this? She better be. That could be me,
I don't want him. (ALL LAUGHING) TIFFANY: I don't want him. It's not... TIFFANY: He's too paranoid. That's what I'm saying,
ain't no side thing, I'm trying to move forward
in life with this woman, like, me and her gonna get a divorce,
and I'm willing to marry Rocky. I'm willing to marry... Okay. Okay, but the big
question you willing, Ms. Haid, are you willing
to marry him? I don't know by now,
after today. He betrayed me.
I feel really betrayed. You know, he's the one
accusing me of cheating
all the time, and, you know, here he is
sleeping with his wife
or whatever... Run. (ALL LAUGHING) Every day, every day
there's always something. And you are accusing her,
and talking badly and making
her feel badly. This beautiful young woman, and what you're doing
is potentially ruining her
for her future. How is she gonna trust
another man? (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) Yeah, that's, that's the point
of me getting here. That's the point of me
being here is to, like, just bring it out to the head
so it can burst like a pimple. Oh, it's busted like
more than a pimple. It's busted, busted,
busted. I wanted everything to be
all right, I didn't know y'all
was going to go this far. (ALL LAUGHING) We are nothing
if not thorough,
honey. That's what we do. We said we'd do a full
and complete investigation and that's what we do. But now that
we've uncovered
the truth, you know, there's choices
that got to be made. Mmm. And you said he rescued you
from your previous
bad situation... HAID: He did. You may not feel it now, but you may be being
rescued right now
from this bad situation. I agree. It's a lot. JUDGE DANA: Run. I agree it's a lot
to think about. It's a lot. Whatever you and your wife
need to work out,
y'all can work that out, but until you work that out
don't bring anybody else
into this madness. JUDGE DANA: As we say
in this courtroom do not cheat yourself
out of the opportunity
to have a happy, healthy, truth filled
relationship. Court is adjourned. (AUDIENCE CLAPPING) As y'all can see, we definitely
decided to stick around and try and work
this thing out. We're gonna practice
what's called
"expanded relationship". Kameron and I decided to
call off the separation. Kameron and I decided to
work it out and, you know, adjust my new life
with my new family. Thank you, bye. Now I've got two women
in my life. (LAUGHS)
