14 Reloading Presses Compared: the BIG Single-Stage Shootout

[Music] it's here the world's most insane reloading press shootout Gavin gear here from ultimate realtor.com this has been the biggest project that I've ever taken on because in this video I'm gonna show you and I'm gonna compare 14 different single stage reloading presses a couple notes before we get started first I'd like to invite you to like and subscribe if you like this video please give it a thumbs up and don't forget to subscribe with notifications because I've got more detailed sort of scientific stories coming up like this okay here's how it's going to work for each of these presses I'm gonna go alphabetically by manufacturer I'm gonna take each press off of the custom rack that I built back here which is based on the in-line fabrication wall rack system which is great all these presses have the quick change ultra mount in-line fabrication plates on them so that I can quickly change them out so each press gets center stage I'm going to start with the high level information and metrics about the press what's the materials of construction what's the country of origin what's a high level you know specifications list and features break down then I will transition to measured performance criteria for each of these presses so with regard to performance criteria I looked at two things I looked at the press itself and I looked at the quality of the ammunition produced by the press and with regard to the press I started with the press Ram to frame fit I was specifically looking at slop and for conventional single stage press that meant installing some custom instrumentation that had designed and I built on the precision Matthews lathe and what I would basically do is raise the ramps at the top of the stroke press in and out wobbling it and press the side-to-side and look at the total indicator reading up where the ogive of a 65 Creedmoor bullet would be four presses without a conventional Ram that this test can be performed on I would take a look at the carriage where the shell holder sits four presses like this Forrester coax and then on presses like the RCBS summit it's actually got a carriage that comes down with the dye on it I looked at the precision of the fit between that carriage and the RAM itself so you can't 100% compare these numbers but it does give you a good comparison of the relative level of precision between the presses then I took measurements with this reed instruments SD 6100 force gauge pulling on the press handle through the entire stroke sizing 65 Creedmoor cases and withdrawing them as well so the full cycle I did at least two for each press and I used the same brass in the same Lube Imperial case sizing wax this gives you an idea of the relative amount of leverage on each press and the dynamics of how the linkage is engineered yes it will be sped up when you do it at full speed but in a relative sense you can take these graphs and compare them to get a good idea of how the presses respond and how they work so then it was time to load some dummy cartridges and these dummy cartridges I loaded five for each we're all loaded using the same brass Hornady once fired 65 Creedmoor fired them in my Ruger precision rifle they've all been fired in the same chamber and that was critical because I wanted to work the brass and I wanted to take measurements after that brass was worked because that's a real-world scenario and I used the 65 Creedmoor Hornady brass because not only was all fired in the same rifle but when I checked with my eye gauging ball micrometer the consistency of the neck thickness was within about 2 10 thousandths of an inch so I would size five cases very carefully and consistently and then seat five bullets I used Hornady 123 green a max bullets I got really good numbers with this with the reading competition cedar die the sizer that I used was the Forester full length 65 Creedmoor die this gives very good results itself as well and it's very well made so I thought that would be a good component to use for the tests so after I had five cartridges I would take readings I've got the eye gauging smart Wireless origin Cal calipers these at blue 2 and I would use the Hornady comparator kits for headspace and for bullets seating depth bullets evening depth comparator goes off of the ogive of the bullet and the headspace comparator kit goes off of the datum line on the shoulder and since these have bluetooth I was able to on my Windows laptop send it straight to excel and that saved quite a bit of time very carefully using the same amount of force and spinning the case to make sure the shoulder and bullet we're getting good consistent readings and then hit the button to send it to to excel so we've got base to shoulder and base to ogive measurements there I would then take the cartridges over to the metal lathe where head very carefully chucked up a Nelly Wilson case holder this is the same kind of case holder that's used in their trimmer and my thinking here was I want to simulate what happens when a cartridge is chambered in the rifle what are the critical aspects as the cartridge is being shot so I dialed in the concentricity two to ten thousandths of an inch at the exit and at the entrance and in that way got it very close to perfectly collinear with the spindle of the lathe so as this cartridge is being revolved I can then take an indicator and take readings for case neck concentricity with the body of the case which is a critical factor and then also bullet run-out I took those measurements at the ogive and then towards the tip as well and I used an indicator that reads in half half thousands so I got a good level of precision with that as well I put all the data into Excel and I applied some formulas I'll include details on that in the full article write-up so that's an overview of my test methodology used quite a bit of instruments is the precision packing scale to measure the weight of the presses and lots of data to look at so let's walk through each of the presses alphabetically starting with the Forster coax the Forester coax one of the most talked-about presses this actually started out as the Bonanza coax in the late 60s and in the 1980s Forester bought the rights to this press design and since then they've made very slight improvements it was a great design but they're they're always looking for ways to make the press that much better an example I was talking with Bob Rock from Forester about their priming system and the fingers that hold the case rim and they were making slight changes to that to make it work just a little bit better with today's popular cartridges it's made in the USA cast iron construction it's called the coax because there's two axes the axis of the die and the axis of the cartridge and they both have a bit of self aligning capability or float the dies are held by the die lock ring you can either use regular lock rings or force or suggest that you use their optimized slightly oversized block reads that fit perfectly in there but I found the regular lock rings to work good the die therefore has some float to it the way that the integrated proprietary Universal shell holder works has a little bit of float to it you can see the jaws come in together there's a small size and a large size and the way that the shell holder works the way that the die retention works means that both have a little bit of self alignment capability or float and the axis of the die and axis of the cartridge are therefore able to be coaxial that's where that name comes from with a 3.9 seven-inch usable frame opening this is got a generous capacity and I would call this a sea frame hybrid design in terms of the press frame itself it's got an integral frame with a backbone but there's the twin guide rods that guide the carriage up and down and another really notable thing about the Forester coax is the leverage you can tell right away when you start using this press it's got better than average leverage and in fact it's got the best leverage of any press tested in this shootout the average peak sizing force 465 crema show you the graph there was about seventeen and a half pounds some of these presses were up towards 50 pounds so that gives you an idea of how optimized this press design is it's there's going to be a distinction between cam over designs where the shell holder comes up and then it goes slightly down as the linkage cams over versus hard stop hard stop would be either where there's a physical stop to the linkage or in the case of this press the linkage comes up pretty much perfectly strange so basically the shoulder is going to come up and stop it's not going to go back down so it's almost came over but not this press has a great blend of usability features and precision and I think that's why it's so popular and I suppose it's appropriate that the Frankfort Arsenal Empress is next alphabetically because this press is frequently compared to the Forster coax they're both coaxial in design in other words they could both self align the dye and the cartridge because of the way the presses are designed but that's one of the only similarities this press is made in China it's got an MSRP of 299 typical Street prices 249 so it comes in street price about $100 less than the Forster coax but really there's quite a bit different here first it has a completely different frame design there is really no central cast iron frame on this press it is cast iron construction but these large guide rods really are what provides support for the upper area where the die block is it uses proprietary Frankfort Arsenal dye blocks these come in sets of three and they come with a dye case so that your dyes dye blocks are all together and organized and the dye blocks do float in the press which provides part of that coaxial alignment the shell holder is also kind of a unique situation here you've got rotary plates under each side of where the show holder grabs the cartridge and each has four different settings small large two to three and 3:08 so there's sizes all the way from two to three and some other small cartridges even smaller than two to three all the way up to 338 Lapua that's another unique differentiator on this press is the five-inch usable frame opening which is the largest of any of the presses compared here it also has a non pressed light which is another differentiator and overall the quality and precision of the ammunition produced by the empress was similar to the Forster coax in the same general category so each press is a little bit different they share kind of the the general overall shape and look another difference with this press compared to all of the other presses is that you can toggle these linkage plates and flip them around and that switches between a hard stop and a cam over action for the carriage so depending on your preferences and depending on what your goals are you can actually switch between the two so that's the Frankfort Arsenal impress on two Hornady starting with the horny Lock and Load classic this is a straight up Oh frame press cast aluminum construction for the frame it does have the Lock and Load bushing system integrated which I really like because you can easily change out dyes I will note that the bushing is removable in this press which I like because I actually have a story back in the archives of calibrating the die height on this press with my Lock and Load AP progressive can swap ties back and forth which is pretty cool it has an integrated priming system via this lever and there's even an optional tube where you can automatically charge the lever the lever is easily removable and then it doesn't get in the way as much if you're not doing on press priming it's got the integrated primer catcher bucket there it's got a lot of great features 3.75 inch usable frame opening and basically I think what's notable about this press is the price point it comes in about $147 street price and the fact that it has the bushing system integrated and here's Hornet ease other single stage the lock and load iron where the Lock and Load classic weighs in at eight point seven three pounds this lock and load iron is massive it comes in at 25 pounds when you pick this thing up you can feel that massive USA casting both presses made in the USA both use the Lock and Load bushing system that's kind of where the similarities end this press is unique in that it's the only press in this entire collection with completely automatic priming it's got a slide bar priming system you can see this sliding back and forth here that's kind of similar to what's on the Hornady Lock and Load AP progressive press and the way that the shell holders are attached is a little bit different too let me show that to you you slide the show holder in and then there's this platform that goes over the top and snaps down so when you put the cartridge in it's almost like you've got this little platform here and it's also ambidextrous you can install the handle on the right hand side or the left hand side it's got really nice features in construction there's a set of racks and accessories up here this is a 3d rack it's got two positions here for case prep tools so that you can do that as a part of your process if you want and an acro bin holder in case you wanted to have bullets or whatever up next to where you're reloading another notable thing about this particular press is the cam over action so right here I've got iron on iron and it has this kind of unique camming over and initially I thought well that's kind of odd feeling but when I looked at the precision numbers for the Lock and Load iron it did really really well in the lineup of presses for things like base to datum line for shoulder set back and base to a dive for bullet seating consistency so it's a massive press it's packed with features and if you want fully automatic priming the lock and load iron is something to look at okay time to enter the LEAs zone and I'm gonna start with the little press that could this is the Lea breech-lock Challenger I just checked so the MSRP on this press is $99 yesterday mid-south had it for $68 on sale that is not a lot of money and if you look at my budget precision two to three series where I used the breech-lock challenger complete reloading kit and a Thompson Center compass chambered into two three and a budget optic I had an entire package under $600 and was able to put five shots in under 0.3 inches at a hundred yards so it all depends on your budget and your goals this press has all of the basic functionality that you're going to need and a few extras as well it's got a 3.75 inch usable frame opening this is made in the US it's made from die cast aluminum Lee has figured out a way to make stuff really cheap and still make it perform pretty well I mean it depends on the product you're talking about summer favorites and others aren't they're collet sizer is a favorite if you're on a budget this press will get the job done as I mentioned with the budget 2 to 3 project being an example there of it has some interesting features as well this breech lock system is kind of like the Hornet II Lock and Load bushing system it requires a little bit more rotation and it's kind of more like screw threads in in how it works but you can either attach a bushing to each die and insert and remove it like so or if you align it just correctly there's a little cutout here and you can drop it in and have this button come up which retains the breach lock bushing in the press so then you don't have to buy bushings for each die you just screw them in and out and the bushing does not rotate in the press it's got on press priming via a lever the lever just drops in and when the d priming happens it falls through a little hole here down onto a square funnel into this tube you can either let the tube fill up or direct it into a trash can the action on this is hard stop in that the RAM comes up to the top and it just stops it does have an ambidextrous handle you can put the handle on the right side or the left side and you can adjust the length of the handle as well for optimized throw and optimize leverage same on the other cast iron the 50 BMG and the classic cast iron prescence these the same basic design their handles are a little bit beefier the diameter of the rod here so a lot of value for a little bit of money okay next I'm going to show you two presses that are essentially the same but are part of different kits this is the Lee classic cast iron o frame reloading press I also have here the Lee 50 BMG reloading kit press which is also cast iron the 50 BMG kit comes with all of the parts that you're going to need like a priming holder and a different top for the RAM it's actually removable which is an integrated shell holder for 50 BMG the 50 BMG kit comes with the seven eighths by fourteen bushing and a standard Ram top that accepts centered shell holders as well so these two are actually kind of the same thing with different configuration options the Lee classic cast iron has an MSRP of a hundred and ninety dollars for a little bit more you can get the breech lock it actually sometimes it's offered at the same price instead of a seven eighths by fourteen bushing you're gonna have that breech-lock bushing that's going to accept the same kind of bushings as the breech-lock challenger the 50 BMG kit is offered as a set with dies everything you need to load 50 BMG so again - classic cast iron MSRP about $190 I saw sale prices and online prices about 125 dollars the 50 BMG kit has an MSRP of 370 dollars with street prices around two hundred and fifty nine dollars so if you want to load 50 BMG and you want to load standard rifle cartridges that are smaller than 50 BMG I think that 50 BMG kit is a great value if you want to have a large four and a quarter inch usable frame opening and you want a value-oriented heavy duty construction I think the Lee classic cast iron either in breech lock or standard is a good option as well interesting findings I thought it would be interesting to run both of these presses through my entire series of tests even though they are the same thing essentially because I wanted to use it as kind of a control sample and when you look at the performance numbers they ranked a little bit differently but they were definitely in the same ballpark in terms of the datum length tests and the concentricity tests so I think that showed yes there's some variation in my testing due to some of the variances of brass and just kind of luck of the draw but things tended to test pretty consistently both of these tests stood better than the breech-lock challenger it had a little bit more slop in the RAM and it didn't produce quite as precision oriented ammunition but again acceptable results if you're looking for somewhere around a third of an MOA or a quarter MOA that kind of thing both of these have the same kind of primer collection tube that you can either direct into a trash can or you can let fill up in empty periodically same ambidextrous handle design a little bit beefier you're a little bit longer these ranked kind of in the middle on the force graphs that you'll see in the detailed write-up I expected the leverage to be actually a little bit more given that it's a 50 BMG press but they were kind of in the middle to upper range for that these also have a hard stop design and it is a 50 BMG press so it can take the bushing out it'll take inch and a half by 12 dies as well that means you could also put the Hornady Lock and Load bushing conversion kit in this press which you can on any of the presses that have a removable bushing that has that one and a half 12 threading on it so I would say this has a lot of value I did have a little bit of an issue with one of the castings I had to file down a rough part of the casting because the bottom isn't really finished I mean you have to you have to cut certain areas if you're going to meet this really aggressive low price point but again they work well and it's going to give you the configuration options that you're going to not find on some of the other presses let's talk Lyman I got two presses from their new brass Smith lineup which was introduced at about this time last year this is the ideal I'll also show the victory here's the deal with the ideal okay this is about the best deal that you're gonna find on a USA made cast-iron press it's a sea frame in construction it's no-nonsense and what this press really shines with is things like bullets eating because it's got a very short throw it's very quick to use but surprisingly it also fared well in my force tests the peak sizing force on this press was about in the middle of the pack which surprised me with the short handle and short throw I expected this to have the maximum peak sizing force for that once fired 65 Creedmoor brass again this is a straight up press it's got quality cast iron USA construction it's got nice linkage it's got a central handle so it is therefore ambidextrous in nature it's very simple and straightforward the spent primers go right into this spent primer cup and it's just what you need and nothing more uses standard seven eighths by fourteen dies like you would expect it comes in at ten point eight three pounds which is a little bit lower on the scale but considering its overall size of configuration it's pretty massive it's very solid MSRP of nine $99.95 I saw it on sale for 82 dollars at mid-south shooters supply so if you want a piece of gear that's gonna last a long time good simple features optimized for things like bullets eating or decapping this would be a great addition to the lineup the action of the ram is hard stop it comes up and it just stops abruptly you can feel that and I think this is just a good all-around basic option and it's a really good second press okay stepping from the ideal up to the victory this is a big step up in capacity and weight this thing weighs twice what the ideal does coming in at about 20 pounds whereas the ideal comes in at about ten pounds this has a four point seven one inch usable capacity compared to the three point six nine inch usable capacity on the ideal this press also has manual on press priming you pull the lever and then a primer is dispensed into the cup you push the cup in on the way down and then the primer is seated into the case so what I like about that kind of a priming system is it's pretty much foolproof it's not going to get jammed on the downside it is one more step to keep track of as you're reading your ammunition both of these presses are no float design there's no float at the reloading die and there's no float at the shell holder so depending on what your philosophy is around self guiding versus rigidly locking things in these presses are gonna be the latter again USA made massive cast iron construction this one is ambidextrous but not with a central handle can't do that with the priming system it's got an offset handle that can be mounted either on the right hand side or on the left hand side nice generous length handle this is a really good all-around press it's also got the hard stop it's not a cam over design MSRP on the victory is 209 95 and I've seen street prices right around 165 dollars which is a lot of massive value for the dollar and here we have the MEC marksman mech has only been in the metallic reloading equipment game for a few years but the mech marksman has become popular in that time and for good reason it's got a lot of great features and some unique capabilities it is what I would call an open frame o frame C frame press I think open frame is probably the best way to describe it it's a massive USA casting for the frame it's got a ground and polished Ram and you can really feel that when you cycle the press this is probably the easiest cycling press that has good RAM to press frame fit check out the detailed article for more information about those metrics it's got an integrated tray in the top it's got that standard one-and-a-half by 12 threading I've run it with a Lock and Load bushing on the bottom on the RAM is where you'll find one of the interesting features on the marksman and that's its patented floating shoulder design you can actually see it move side-to-side and the idea is kind of like with the Forester coax or the Frankfort Arsenal empress is to allow alignment between the case and the die and that's exactly what happens if you look at the performance data that I gathered for this press it did very well and I really love how accessible and open things are there on the front MSRP is 235 dollars as of the filming of this video and I saw it on sale for about a hundred and ninety dollars on mid-south shooters supply which is I feel like a great value this is a press that is familiar to many of you this is the rock tucker supreme from our CBS and a hop to say right off the get-go the most notable thing about this press in these tests was that it was basically neck-and-neck with the expensive German Prezi press in terms of the quality of the ammunition produced when it came to average datum length when it came to the standard deviation of those values and the normalized total indicator reading for case neck concentricity and bullet concentricity the RCBS rock trucker supreme was right at the top of the list with the prezi press USA made cast-iron construction this has got a four point 1/2 inch usable frame opening which is very good it's got an integrated lever priming system this is kind of interesting design you swing it in place and it can rock back and forth you insert a primer you prime instead of primer and your prime or you can just flip it out of the way which i think is kind of a nice convenience it's got a bushing at the top threaded four seven eighths by fourteen and it uses standard shell holders and this is one of the things I'm gonna have to do more analysis on is float a good thing or is float a bad thing in terms of the shell holder in terms of how the die is secured this press and the prezi press both completely fixed designs fixed show holder fixed die station so what does that mean I think what that means is if you have really good precision in your press you don't have to have float if you have float can it help correct for some circumstances certain types of dies I'm gonna have to collect more data in order to know that but this press really really did well it's also got a ambidextrous handle mounting arrangement I've got it mounted on the right here it's got this unique primer catcher where when the D priming is happening basically this little hood here catches the primer and then it'll fall either to the left or the right now here's the question for you all does it matter if I'm up on top of the the equator or below it in terms of which side of the earth I'm on because mine are all over here on the right side I will leave that for you to come template if you wanted to switch this over to Hornady Lock and Load bushing system you can because it's got this bushing on the top that's removable that has the inch and a half by 12 threading on it it's also very attractive it's got the typical RCBS is sort of silver and green speckle finish which i think is really nice this press basically hard to go wrong with it's a good solid performer MSRP is $226 is 61 cents that's a very exact number and I saw prices at mid-south down around 166 dollars which if you're looking for precision ammo it's is not a bad way to go are you ready for something different because this is this is the RCBS summit which literally turns the reloading press upside down on itself that's right the die moves up and down and the cartridge stays stationary it takes a little while to get used to but I'll tell you what this press got the top score in total indicator reading for bullet concentricity and case neck concentricity what's interesting about the measurements that I took was that it has some side-to-side float which I think you can see here and very little in an out float I don't know if that had anything to do with those results but in terms of concentricity this press was king and in addition it's got a really open and accessible format I mean you can get your hands all the way around the cartridge here and you this is standard seven eighths by fourteen dies it's got the threaded bushing and it's entirely above the bench except for the portion of the handle that comes down below when the die is at the bottom of its stroke let's see MSRP on the summit is 280 129 I saw street price at mid-south shooter supply of a hundred and ninety nine dollars the weight is 19 pounds so it's on the heavier side it's a very solid construction and it does have a cam over design so it varies the die comes down that very slightly goes back up the float again is side-to-side it's got a zerk fitting here so that you can grease it and I think this is totally a notable press because of the design the performance and again I do like the RCBS speckled green and silver paint job enter reading this is the reading big boss - it is another classic cast-iron Oh frame press it's made in the USA it's made to exacting standards you can scott this cool retro green crackle finish which I particularly like and I would say I've put more miles miles on this single stage press than any of the other single stage presses behind me I've sized a lot of military 308 with it and I've put it to a lot of hard use and I looked at the press Ram to frame fit this was one of the better presses it still has tight tolerances even after all that use and I think that just says this press is put together really well it's got the standard 7/8 by 14 bushing with one and a half by twelve on the outside so you can run a Lock and Load bushing conversion kit on this press uses standard shell holders it's got a 3.75 inch usable frame capacity weighs in at 15 point 7 pounds it is it is heavy it's not the heaviest but it's very solid nonetheless it's got hard stop actuation rather than cam over it's got this slide bar priming system where you can pull to dispense of primer and then on the way down you push it in you prime you let it go and it springs back I like the way that that works and it's good to have the option to prime on the process even if you don't always do so another thing about this press is it came in second overall on leverage so it was right behind the Forester coax the peak sizing force was just a little bit over 17 pounds let's see what that was it was 17.3 2 on this one so very good leverage on it and with an MSRP of 339 40 and a street price of 204 dollars again if you're looking for kind of like a lifetime piece of equipment that kind of an investment and you want good precision and a good classic design check out to reading Big Boss 2 well it came up last alphabetically and I'll have to say it's kind of the most crazy it's the most extreme it's the most nicely machined press this is the turbine CNC heavy prezi press this is the 120 millimeter model there's three different sizes this brings precision to a different level the turbine C&C prezi press one the overall precision ranking but I'll have to say the RCBS rock checker supreme was actually very close this press has a very unique configuration in that it's got a very large central rim with a bushing and then it's got three guide rods and they each have linear ball bearings that help support this carriage the carriage is incredibly tight I think it was one and a half ten thousandths of an inch of movement I mean we're talking about locked-down precision another so this is also the most expensive press 850 euros which makes out to about nine hundred and fifty dollars and it's also even though it's it's cnc aluminum a lot of the parts on it it's the heaviest 32.2 six pounds this thing is massive I mean the handle alone look at this thing there's no flex at all in this and with sizes this will load 338 Lapua there's also the large president press which is 140 millimeter model that will load 50 BMG the 105 millimeter standard prezi press is for conventionally sized cartridges there's different bushings that screw in this is the 7/8 by 14 bushing that was included with the press and again the precision was outstanding and I think really to test this machine fully I would need better quality dies and potentially neck turned brass and a bunch of other stuff that I really didn't want to get into for this particular story but I will be looking for opportunities on going if I do some benchrest stories for instance to test this you know even further to get it really out to its full potential it has a four point six eight inch usable frame opening and I mean it's just the Mercedes of reloading presses you should see people when they come into the shop and they they cycle this thing it it kind of defies description it's just it's just an amazing experience to use it I'll just put it at that it's also got an ambidextrous handle mounting arrangement and a really industrial primer catcher through a stainless tube that drops into a large capacity cup the prezi press will not disappoint but it also is expensive so you kind of have to decide what's important to you so there you go an overview of 14 different single stage reloading presses I had a lot of fun and it was a lot of work putting this story together I do want to remind you click on that first link in the video description there is a huge article that's going to go into detail and lists a lot of the performance metrics a lot of the specifications give you pictures of all these presses there's a lot of information to absorb but remember if you want to load precision ammunition there's multiple tools that can get the job done it really matters what your personal preferences are what your budget is and I hope that this video has been helpful for you to make those decisions if you like this video please give it a thumbs up don't forget to subscribe with notifications - Gavin - if I got a lot more reloading stuff shooting stuff metalworking tons of cool stories coming up this year if you're one of these cool ultimate reloaded t-shirts you can go to the ultimate reloader store you can support me on patreon there's going to be links down in the video description until next time happy shooting and happy reloading [Music]

Channel: gavintoobe

Views: 623,248

Rating: 4.9439974 out of 5

Keywords: Reloading, 9mm Parabellum, AR-10, .223 Remington, 5.56 NATO, 6.5 Creedmoor, 224 Valkyrie, FORSTER Co-Ax, Frankford Arsenal M-Press, Hornady Lock-N-Load Classic, Hornady Lock-N-Load Iron, LEE Challenger Breech Lock, LEE Classic Cast 50 BMG, LEE Classic Cast Iron, Lyman Brass Smith Ideal, Lyman Brass Smith Victory, MEC Marksman, RCBS Summit, Redding Big Boss II, Turban CNC Präzipress, Reloading Press Shootout, UR Press Comparison, Single Stage Press Shootout, progressive press

Id: TqcYI0G2hqM

Length: 41min 0sec (2460 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 08 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/BlackKnivesMatter]

A single stage is a single stage. Spend your money on dies and components

[u/chandler729]

Holy crap just tell me who won.

[u/LOLingAtYouRightNow]

That winner tho. You can get a Rock Chucker AND a LnL AP for the same price as that winner, with only .0000000000000001% difference in precision results.

[u/pwny_]

No Redding Ultramag? Disappointing.

Also Gavin may have started out with good intentions but nowadays he strikes me as a traditional reviewer who will never say anything bad about any product he gets.

[u/Twelveangryvalves]

I don't trust a guy who refuses to answer questions on his YouTube page about which reloader he personally likes best. That's the mark of a shill.

[u/aimsport45]

And the write up is: https://bit.ly/2WS9jE0

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[u/aimsport45]

What a valuable contribution to the reloading community! It sounded impossible but he did it. But Gavin is clear that more exploration is necessary including neck turned brass and better quality dies for exploring the better presses. I agree.

Die choice is a HUGE factor in concentricity. Look at the Forster Die numbers: Runout varies between dies This also shows clearly what many know to be true that the right die can get three zeroes runout on many more of the presses on Gavin's list.

Also, this table raises a few questions about the overall winner.

See: http://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Precision-Rollup-Wide.jpg

SPOILER: Not sure why the winner was declared the overall winner when in the table above it was beaten by one or both RCBS's in every category except one tie and one super slim .00009" margin over one of the RCBSs.

Looking forward to more great stuff from Gavintoob

[u/YOUREABOT]

Fantastic video thank u