🔴 You shouldn’t eat octopus. Here’s why. | [OFFICE HOURS] Podcast 075

foreign foreign uh foreign foreign [Music] hello there friend what are we actually seeing starts to get complicated it was easy it will start to separate or definitely not behind that restricted accessory they're not forgettable none of them will be able to be revived um [Music] i should have a floating impossible anti-gravity [Music] the basilisk has its eyes on you what are you going to do then at some point the acceleration is going to get so high that you're going to pass 9.8 look i know that neither of those examples were fun a screaming fish on this side would never be leaving me weightless no matter where i am [Music] what's [Music] our teeth up or within our own body i give killer high fives [Music] okay good [Music] i'm sorry what were we talking about [Music] is a crab not entitled to the sweat of their brow no says the man in the restaurant it belongs to the poor no says the man in the octopus farm it belongs to the people no says the man in the aquarium it belongs to everyone i kyle ryan rejected those answers i chose something different i chose the impossible i chose office hours hello and welcome to office hours a live component of the facility where good old professor kyle opens up his digital aperture or thereabouts and allows all of you members of the general public my staff my security team all those people who are able to jump over all the laser-guided security that i have here for the next hour so to ask me any old sciency kind of question that your little old heart can think up as we want to do we'll be talking about number of topics that you bring up also i want to bring up a couple of topics myself during the next live hour or so of what you humans call content and programming and if of course if you want to continue on this conversation after it is live after this vod as they say is posted up back on the facility main channel you can always go to patreon.com kyle hill join the facility today talk to me every day on discord or thereabouts get videos early see behind the scenes photos vote on titles and thumb beasts that show up help me out i need it patreon.com kyle hill or during today's broadcast you can also try your hand at super chat i cannot promise i will get to every single one of your super chats but i will do my best if i don't get to yours still know that you are simping for science and for buying new meat in the kitchen as you can see already coming in elizabeth calvert says my tiny human alex wants to know does combustion really make water yes there is a there is a chemical reaction uh that combines so example if you burn hydrogen like if you had a balloon filled with hydrogen and you put a lighter up to it that balloon would explode pretty uh vigorously and the chemical reaction as you write it out alex you'll learn about this later in chemistry class but when you combine energy and hydrogen and oxygen one of the byproducts is h2o and you get water we also have uh we have sparky with the 500.00 the legend of sparky grows every single week sparky knows a thing or two about sentient crabs i know because i've seen him backwards crab walking on his private island uh all the sand perfectly rounded imported from dubai uh clothes don't need them why private island covered in the dome and he him any any crab walks around the island uh throwing money with his extra prosthetic digits which he doesn't even need we have skyler p with the 20 says hey kyle if the doppler doppler effect can red or blue shift light from the star can it shift out the visible uh can you shift it out of the visible light spectrum yes visible light can be shifted downshifted into radio can be up shifted into x-ray and gamma ray you're right on the money uh vincent with the 20 says hey thor love the show remember we're still going to be talking about sentient crabs do you think it's possible for technology to outpace the worst worst of climate change um technology will help but the first step is reducing emissions our emissions are so immense and are our pollution so prodigious that there's no real way to get out in front of it without attacking it at its source which is production uh mandatory sin with the 500 from new zealand says hey kyle show the love y'all though you're wrong the crab sweat belongs to me uh mandatory sin your your legendary is oh you're legendary your legend is also growing keeper of the crab sweat feral beast with the 25 considering your kevins are lab grown who told you that would that make them an ethical source of meat depends on whether or not they are sentient and that's what we are getting to today uh in just a minute scott evans with the 10 says hey love show the kyle that's what i'm doing i went to feed my fish today and there's an eight-armed kevin in the aquarium he's eating all the fish food and food refusing to get out um in this case uh if there is a kevin in your aquarium you do actually want to tap on the glass they're attracted to that and they will jump out now uh i see this the australian 799 will we ever make a kugel blitz a black hole made out of light don't think so uh we can hardly make anything better than internal combustion engines kaelin with the 1499 straight from australia let's get down under and talk about some sentient cephalopods why don't we cephalopods and their kin we're not just talking about we're talking about cephalopod mollusks decapod crustaceans when i say decapod i mean ten legged pot ten potted thing can we make a black hole out of lights as michael skinner cephalopods first let's get right to it okay so when we when we decide how how do humans decide what to eat how do humans decide what to eat it seems like when it comes to creatures that we eat not just plants because plants don't seem to have a nervous system as such when it comes to what we eat it seems that we have drawn a line we have delineated what we're willing to eat no not just based on what it smells good no not trial and error no it seems like we have settled upon consciousness sentience as the line so and cuteness i think i think cuteness also plays into it because there could be a really really cute non-sentient thing and people probably wouldn't want to eat it but sentience seems to be a hard and fast rule where eating something like a pet like a cat or a dog is accepted in some countries but it seems like it's not accepted in most places and we seem to feel that way because we recognize or eating a chimp for example again happens in some places frowned upon in most other places it seems uh it's am i sentient i think this is because that we recognize some of ourselves and our own mental processes in other creatures and it dissuades us from eating them because we can imagine their suffering it's culturally culturally relative says moon girl i believe there it i believe this this this cuts cross-culturally this consciousness thing this idea which is to say we feel bad about eating things we think can feel pain and don't feel bad at all about eating things that we know or have a good idea are not sentient like plants no one worries if broccoli screams although now i do [Music] terrible because we can imagine that other creatures that are sentient can feel pain like we would feel pain we would not want to be eaten alive we would not want to be um boiled alive or burned or any of that kind of thing and so we have this theory of mind that we've evolved with where we can get in we can put ourselves in other creatures consciousnesses wonder platypus says i mean we know plants feel pain well we'll get to that because the the the feeling pain is not the same as experiencing pain so i need to separate that language a little bit feeling here i mean by experience uh nociception feeling pain having receptors in your cells or on your body that will make you recoil from some noxious stimulus is not necessarily the same thing as experiencing pain in some sort of thinking way right or experiential way now i'm i'm saying all this because a new uk law a law that just went into effect about animal welfare in the united kingdom just put cephalopod mollusks and decapod crustaceans fun words to say on the list of animals for animal welfare animals that should be treated similarly to how we treat animals that we consider conscious like mammals and birds sentient rather mammals and birds when it comes to um processing them for something uh for uh for how we eat them so for example if we had a cultural acceptance that octopi octopuses octopies are sentient then it would change the way that we dealt with them if we continue to eat them we would process them in a different way maybe we would prepare them in a different way and to get right down to the nitty-gritty you'd probably kill them in a different way you'd want everything to be more humane at least the least amount of pain as possible so the britannic says what is the definition of sentience well this new k thank you for that amazing segue take the scooter i don't want the scooter thank you for the transition in the the uk law drawn uh drew upon a new study out this november from the london school of economics political science that looked at let's see over 300 different studies over 300 different studies evaluating the sentience of animals in two groups two invertebrates cephalo cephalopod mollusks decapod crustaceans so we're talking about crabs lobsters crayfish squid cuttlefish octopods so to your question this is important right what defines sentience well let's look at the study itself whoa whoa whoa says tyrannosaurus rust we should not treat them like we treat chickens we shouldn't even treat chickens like the way we treat chickens that aside should we treat these creatures in consideration more humanely than we otherwise would when considering their potential sentience so they're defining sentience this way the capacity to have feelings i like to think about it like does this animal is there is is there a sense of what it's like to be a bat or an octopus is there something experientially different if it's just a void of a void filled with various environmental stimuli in the stream of consciousness or not consciousness it's just stimuli then that doesn't seem like sentience but if it if it's like something to be an octopus you you sense things you feel things and uh feelings for example feelings of pain distress anxiety boredom hunger thirst pleasure warmth joy comfort excitement those are different right so to answer one of your questions in the chat right here sentience is distinct from nociception pain reception nociception is the detection by a nervous system of actually or potentially noxious stimuli like extreme heat or pain acidity alkalinity toxins break to the skin however pain and i really like this definition pain is just one example within a broader category of negatively valenced effective states so this is to say that you can feel the experience of pain or something that is experienced as uncomfortable or painful is different than actually receiving something in your nociceptors right so poking myself with this thor's hammer really hard might feel might might activate my nociceptors and hurt but that you must acknowledge that that's a different kind of pain or uncomfortable feeling than something like fear or being really hungry or being really bored right there's a certain there's a certain anguish to boredom there's a certain pain to boredom that you cannot describe by simply poking someone in the face with a mini 3d printed thor's hammer and so that's what we're getting at here right um what about sapience says takari babara uh sapience is uh just means like wise and it's usually uh associated with human beings so i think sapient human beings wise thinking human beings i think it's just another it's it's like sentience but for human beings and in the human uh the the homo lineage i don't know but it seems like more or less the same thing but when talking about human people um twin says let's get rid of other people that cause pain before we even consider this that's a whole nother thing twitch you know that so what i'm getting at here is the definition of sentience and to have feelings i ask you chad if your seafood dinner as the title says if you knew it could feel feelings like anxiety and pain and distress and fear and terror would you consume it in the same way would you consume it at all would you want to know that it had been treated to the best of our ability before you consumed it well this is what this new this study was looking at and it was considering these many-legged creatures in the oceans and on land sometimes and they came up with eight criteria now these criteria for each of these they wanted to see how strong the evidence was for each of these possession of nociceptors so they have pain receptors they have integrative brain regions meaning that uh it makes sense that some kind of nervous system would be uh interacting with or the region that connects like the feeling of pain with problem with maybe experience or consciousness it's it's uh mechanically possible the nervous system is such that it could happen so that's what i just said for number three connections between nociceptors and these brain regions responses affected by potential local anesthetics or analgesics see now that's different that's that that gets that gets interesting right that's science is complicated but that's when that's when things get really complicated right can you tease out whether something feels pain or experiences pain if you anesthetize an area right so say joe davis says the best episode of tng is when picard argues that data is sentient that's definitely top five measure of a man that episode is called um but these are the complicated questions right say i have some i have an octopus right and i inject one of its arms with an analgesic or i anesthetized an area such that i know the nociceptors won't fire i know it won't perceive that stimulus and i poke it well first first i i take a a as a control i take one octopus that's totally fine totally normal and i poke its arm and i poke its arm again it will start to avoid me poking it not only will it recoil and this comes from studies of course but not only will it recoil eh it will also learn to avoid the stimulus now if i then uh make that same part that i was poking the octopus make it so that it can't feel that pain and i go to poke it will it still recoil even that i know even even when i know it can't feel that pain so i know that experimental study that that experimental framework i just set up isn't totally perfect because i'm doing it off the top of my head but what i'm getting at is that an experience or a feeling of pain can be different from moving your body after someone pokes you maybe maybe the octopus was afraid right and that's number four as a potential well one of the framework for what makes uh one of the columns for holding up this sentient house here motivational trade-offs show a balancing of threat against opportunity for reward flexible self-protective behaviors associated with learn uh associative learning that goes beyond habituation just because the animal is inside of an area for a long time can it go beyond that right can you take a crow that has learned to do one puzzle in its house can you give it a completely separate puzzle in a different area that it's never been in before can it remember what it's like to solve a puzzle like that and do it that's different right and finally a behavior that shows the animal values local anesthesia the animal values local anesthetics or uh analgesics when injured see seen that seeing now that's the other half of the study that i was describing earlier where it it it enjoys or it uh values the experience of having something anesthetized before or uh in response to some pain if it's having pain it enjoys or you show you get it to show you that it it values that experience of not being in pain anymore um indy with the 10 says when i was a kid i cried after watching my grandpa and others clean fish ever afterwards i always took a hatchet and didn't allow anyone to clean the fish until i killed them uh jacques says the lion does not care if the buffalo is sentient similarly i like my steak rare jacques you are entitled to your opinion of course um i would say this you don't know that the lion doesn't care do you and also you're you are not a lion i would argue you are probably more sentient than a lion and so you can make your own decisions nature is cool but just because something is natural doesn't mean it is moral moral is is something we a moral sense is something we've evolved to have that is a construction based on how we interact with each other in societies in groups in between each other as very social animals and so we have a moral component to us and just to say just a point at an animal that does something that seems immoral and say well see that's fine well that's your your uh your example will fall down very quickly because you could probably point to a lion also eating its children and say it's like see i don't care if i eat my kids see it's it's it's hard to when you're picking and choosing that's when the argument's not great and that's what i'm getting at here is that because we have this capacity to evaluate other creatures in this way we can evolve our own morality okay so back to what i was saying in this framework of eight things they're talking about having very strong evidence strong evidence substantial evidence or little evidence and what they show down uh as snoop dogg would say down hizzle is that for these criterion one through eight everything that we were saying nociception integrative brain areas that kind of thing yellow is low medium high very high very low i'm assuming and if you want to sum it all up what they say oh that's that's the other thing i want to get to what they say is that our findings regarding cephalopods so uh like cuttlefish and uh octopades there's very strong evidence of sentience in octopods we have either high or very high confidence that octopods satisfy our all criteria except for five which is that medium confidence however the evidence is still substantial are strong evidence of sentience and true crabs so what do we do so what do we do any animal with a brain is sentient i don't think that's actually true so i've never seen any of these things before and any of these uh so when we're processing animals for food we do certain things to those animals to make the processing economical and very fast and cheap and all that kind of thing um we treat animals that we consider sentient differently like cows when we slaughter cows we do it in a different way than how we slaughter fish for example and given that this study says there's strong evidence that all that these squid and octopuses and crabs are sentient in the same kind of way you are probably less but in the same kind of way you are because of that we should change the way that we treat them if we continue to eat them now similarly to how i didn't find out until later in life what declawing was for cats don't declaw your cat it's i thought they were taking out like the nail and the root of the nail but uh the nail grows out of their first digit and so when you declaw a cat they're actually amputating the first digit of all of their fingers now if i knew that that's what they did of course i would never have it done i was 10 years old and my mom didn't know what it was either but because we value the experience that cats potentially have we wouldn't want to do that to them similarly this study says uh we should not declaw crabs and not in uh like in the same way but worse um removing one or both claws from a cl from a crab before returning it back to the water we also have a high confidence the practice of cutting a crabs tendon in its claw causes suffering current another example current evidence indicates that electrical stunning with appropriate parameters can induce seizure-like states and that stunning diminishes without wholly abolishing the nervous system's response to boiling water we recommend that the following slaughter methods are banned in all cases when you can have something more humane because of what we have found because octopadies and crabs are sentient we recommend don't boil them alive don't slowly raise the temperature of the water don't separate the head from the thorax or the abdomen from the thorax before death any other form of live dismemberment and freshwater immersion osmotic shock putting a salt water creature into fresh water to kill it on current evidence the most reasonable methods are double spiking whole bl whole body splitting and electrocution so does anyone have a link to this paper uh i will put this paper into the chat right now thank you for bringing that up there you go so why am i saying this i'm saying this because we seem to have this bias that things that don't look like us that don't act like us that aren't cute that don't have fur or big big eyes like a cow or just fluffy like a chicken or a kitty or a puppy or something like that we don't treat them very well and it doesn't seem like we care too much about their well-being but as we learn more and more about how other creatures experience the universe how they might have an interior experience interiors trademark themselves as we learn more about that we can evolve our own moral understanding to the point where if we must continue to eat these creatures then we can do it in the most humane way possible and i haven't eaten octopus um since i talked about this last year something like that last year because we we went through a pain a pain study done in octopuses where we were talking about um uh anesthetizing pots at alms and stuff and i think that's back on the channel but knowing that i probably i'm probably gonna stop eating crab and i don't eat much but i do like for example i love good i love a good calamari had it last week knowing this information applies to squids squiddies will i continue to order it i don't think i can because once you know or have good evidence that a creature can feel fear and anxiety and joy and pain and suffering then choosing to ignore that information reflects on you right so i don't want us i don't want to spark a weird you know this side that side in the chat but i'm telling you my own personal decision based on the consciousness of crabbies and octopies which is the core which is the correct way to pronounce it if you want to sound really annoying about it jack driscoll says hola senor kyle hola question from the var lands from brian murray what's your favorite girl scout cookie um the coconut one with the chocolate drizzle with the hole in it what's that called this chat has kind of become the bad take zone says mmb well you know people people in chat like this are incentivized to uh be less sentient you know taylor smith as you see slowly raising behind me the 999 couple questions for you about water why does the increased salinity increase the buoyancy of water why isn't the buoyance force equal and opposite the force of gravity um why does increased salinity increase the buoyancy of water um oh so um buoyancy sorry about that buoyancy is dependent on the density of the fluid you are immersing something in density is exactly equal to the dense uh so the buoyant force that you need to push something down into the liquid with or how the how much the liquid also pushes up out on that object like a ping-pong ball or a beach ball or whatever it's equal exactly to the density of the fluid multiplied by the volume of the object you're submerging so it doesn't actually depend on the weight of the object itself the buoyant force the density of the object itself the buoyant force presses up based on the weight of the stuff you're moving out of the way in the fluid okay water with salt in it is more dense so the buoyant force is higher in seawater i believe like pure water is like a thousand kilograms per cubic meter and sea water is like a little over a thousand kilograms per cubic meter and ice is a little less than a thousand kilograms per cubic meter which is why it floats um why isn't the buoyant force equal and opposite the force of gravity because again the buoyant force is not weight dependent it's volume dependent and that is why even though something like a beach ball and it and a tennis ball could weigh the same heavy 10 heavy-ish tennis ball and a very light beach ball they could weigh the same but because the beach ball would have to move so much more heavy water out of the way that heavy water is trying to force it back up out that's why g'day kyle this is cheechola with a 3099 jackson says can bugs feel sad i don't know i hope not i mean i'm remember that movie ants like a bug's life was pretty good but ants was freaking depressing and not why did we show that to kids chichola with a 1399 g'day kyle could that space yeat rocket flinging thing be used to launch nuclear waste into the sun is launching stuff into the sun possible or even a good idea cheers you bloody legend oh look all the big legends coming into the chat today are lobsters the same same as crabs as kyle howard um lobsters are considered in the study that we were talking about yes um is launching this uh stuff in the sun a good idea or even possible says chichola as we've gone through a number of times we are moving around the sun on earth at like 30 kilometers per second and so you can't just throw something into the sun the first thing you have to do is cancel out launch something in the opposite direction that orbital velocity 30 kilometers per second to do that takes a lot of very expensive rockets and fuel making it not very economical you could launch stuff into the sun but it'd be much harder than just throwing it i mean if you want to still be a villain about it throw it into a volcano that's easier hey kyle kyle the kyle would it be possible with long enough piece of paper to decapitate a person with a paper cut and moving right along um zee with the 500 donation hey kyle i was listening silently to all this and got increasingly more guilty for years i would go octopus hunting every summer and would get on average three to eight i loved the hunt and the recipes i got to try with them but now i feel horrified that i did all that thank you for bringing this information to us z don't get too hard on yourself i mean like like like me accidentally declawing my cats true ignorance here i think we can forgive because once we have this once we have new information we can update our beliefs if you really did not have that information you can't hold yourself accountable too much and it's not widely known information either um and i'm not saying we can no longer eat these creatures i'm not i personal choice i i might not but um if if you are to eat these creatures or to uh go octa octopi hunting as you did um there's probably a more humane way to kill those creatures before eating them um i'm mentioning that to contrast it with some of the ways they eat octopus in i'm just gonna say japan because that's the only place i've ever seen this like eating an octopus alive like taking a live octopus and eating it knowing the information we do about sentience and some level of sentience that seems really terrible you can imagine some giant thing the fear the terror you would have the the discomfort the the pain the the abject i mean it'd be the worst thing to ever happen to it'd be the worst thing that's why i think attack on titan is so freaking terrible and gross but it'd be like the worst thing right and and if you know that that a creature even might potentially feel like that and you're doing that to it like you're some like you're some horrific monster right in that case it's much easier to say like we should stop doing that because it's terrible right most likely terrible and a terrible experience um but for you hunting the the the octopuses uh i don't know what you did but uh you know what i'm getting at is once we know this information there's there's there's decisions we can make and there's decisions we make as a society and as individuals and how to most humanely deal with this information on the one end you have eating these creatures alive which seems immoral in the face of this information on the other end you just have subjecting these creatures to being eaten in the first place which may or may not be okay and then in the middle you have this gray area of what we have to decide right so i don't have an answer for you um but thank you for that five for that 50 benji boys no that's not you five benji boys z your legend grows every day former octopus hunter now champion of octopadies all around so i got i got a a naked uh naked bald guy with sunglasses backwards crab walking down his own private island z is usually in some sort of uh leather custom leather jacket riding a ducati super bike and is now the savior of all octopi uh octopates in the world we're really chad we really know how to gather the nerds here at the facility don't we adam frost with a 3099 says hey kyle i like how you include philosophical topics in these streams never thought about today's topic before but we'll do now keep being a legend you know i uh i liked philosophy in height in college so much that people i remember at one point some uh some other student leaned over in me was like are you a philosophy major i was like no i just love arguing um i do like philosophy but it's hard it's it's it's i'll tell you what's hard to do if if if this show's hard to do in real time with you asking me to do math and talk about black holes and stuff philosophy in real time seems hi from bulgaria hello from bulgaria uh ham stray says that naked bald guy has crabs on his private island uh yeah but you need like a couple commas in there to make it sound not like he had anyway um that other ted says you can't get most vets to declaw pets anymore they mostly know how bad it is that's true yeah i remember bringing in one of my cats to get a checkup and yeah they said my vet personally says that she refuses on moral ground she won't do it um so that's interesting how uh so when i was a kid you know however many years ago that was that it's evolved in that short amount of time hmm uh burton says oh hey cal and i miss i don't know octopuses and stuff uh could the moon support a planetary ring system visible from earth i don't know i don't know what the what's the what's the rash limit uh for the moon [Music] this is fun isn't it um gray with the 20 says hey thanks for the show the uh the book other minds this fantastic deep dive into the intelligence of octopadies and one i really recommend it touches on these topics and is what has led me to not eat octopuses 8-bit luke with a 17 says didn't mean to overstep on the question only meant it in jest i missed the topic but i'm obsessed with octopuses can't wait to watch the vod later thanks for being awesome 8-bit luke i forget what you said but you're forgiven for whatever you did um zach unless he was really bad zach with the 999 says hey kyle can you explain why led lights produce more light with less heat longer life spans and less energy than other light i don't exactly know how leds work like enough to tell you the exact specifications of everything what i do know is that leds are better in all those ways that you mentioned because it's not using heat itself to generate light so since time and memorial which is a phrase we should retire um the the first way that humans created light probably was through fire and then candles and then light bulbs and that kind of thing and in all those ways we're getting light as an inefficient by-product of heat so like a camp the the the humans first camp or campfire if you're nasty um most of its energy is radiating out in infrared the visible light of it is like an offshoot it's mostly putting out heat in infrared radiation the same is true for old incandescent light bulbs and edison bulbs they're radically inefficient most of what is coming off of them in terms of radiation is infrared in heat and the majority is not invisible light so leds are rectifying that inefficiency by producing more visible light than they do in visible light that's why it's good to get more in depth i'm sure one of my colleagues somewhere on the internet has something about what is the rosh limit for the moon i don't know i was going to look it up i don't think the moon is big enough so the roche limit chat is the distance at which the title forces that a body imparts to something rip that something apart so jupiter for example has a roche limit that's pretty far away from it it's uh jupiter is big and when you're close to jupiter if you're orbiting jupiter it's going to push and pull on your internal stuff because it has a lot of gravity and at a certain limit the roche limit that pushing and pulling is enough to overcome the internal forces of a material like a planet and it breaks apart and becomes rings or just breaks apart i don't want to look this up why am i doing this in real time why am i doing that i don't care oh yeah the physics of leds didn't so when i say i don't know how leds work off the top of my head totally um didn't didn't uh didn't led technology like win recently win a nobel prize they're surprisingly complicated the physics of leds are are pretty complicated i think what do i know i thought that was fiber optic says fred france no fiber optics do not fiber optics are a way to transmit information using light so a fiber optic cable is a very efficient cable that as light hey look i'm jordy laforge as light moves through that cable it has total internal reflection so it stays inside of the cable and at the end of the cable that light comes out and if you send it in little pulses you go beep and you can translate that into information ones and zeros and that's what fiber optic cables are used for photons visible light or maybe not visible i don't know it's uh fiber optics don't aren't illuminating spaces jeez what the heck am i getting it burton oh wait wait imam with the five says we've known for decades that pigs are intelligent but bacon stales are still bacon sales are still high something as alien as an octopus doesn't stand a chance unfortunately you're probably right that yeah knowing that octopadies are sentient probably won't save them but all of you could make your own decisions based on the information that you now have and it maybe won't make a huge difference but it might make a difference to that one octopus that doesn't endure uh a horrific death burton the one two three four says hey kyle sorry i missed the start of the stream you know what it's okay is there any comparison in human physiology or experience to a decentralized nervous system i'm having a trouble having trouble wrapping my head slash arms around it burton is referring to the fact that we think that octopadies have distributed intelligence in each of their eight arms so it's not a centralized intelligence not everything that's doing information processing is all in their head or their mantle if you will or wherever the heck their brain is i think it's like in the middle um some of that intelligence or what is doing the information processing is actually in their arms so that their arms can act kind of like independent little mini brains um do humans have anything like that not as far as i'm aware um not like that but what that makes me think of is when we're talking about consciousness and you hear about subconsciousness and things like that you are we we imagine in our so more philosophy for you we imagine that throughout our our day for uh throughout our waking life that we are conscious of everything right you're aware of what you're doing what your body's doing what you're gonna go to do at work all that sort of thing symmetry it doesn't feel like you're missing something but that's an involved trait the majority of everything your mind and body is doing or your brain and body is doing is completely unknown to you you don't regulate your heartbeat you don't keep track of how much acid is being produced in your stomach you're not controlling the turnover in cells in your rib cage you're not controlling your breathing until right now you're not consolidating memory almost everything that you're doing you are completely unaware of you think you're aware of it and that's it that's an evolutionary advantage to feel like you are the author of what you're doing but i submit to you that you are not and that's a whole other that's a whole other episode baby we should join with the mollusks against our common enemy the arthropods said the says the other ted who would win in a giant battle between humans octopadies and crabs and the ants i'm going ants on this one or emus anyone who still doubts octopates or sentient and intelligent should watch octolab on youtube i haven't checked that out uh the magoozian but um there was just a couple of news stories just the other uh just a couple of weeks ago right that that um we people are saying emus yeah that's what i was thinking uh the great emo emu war the great emo war of the 2000s and lo seven battalions of emos gathered at their stronghold affectionately named fort dashboard confessional and behind this grand fortress they had established fortifications in the form of rows and upon rows of spiked bracelets to slow enemy vehicular assault they had eye shadow by the gallon filling the moat outside that particular hot topic on that day so such that the enemies the chads could not swim to them history tells us that the emos did not make it through the night they their bangs covered their eyes such that they couldn't see the air raid from the chads above and thus they were destroyed and so ended the great emo war of 2001. where am i what what what happened i could i could i could have done that conservatively for an hour tactical buck is just saying no jordan says i have just arrived and i have zero contra zero context for what's happening it's okay i do too um i was talking about ants someone said something uh um ants will win people uh who would win the ants or the crustace i forget i said you don't have free will something like that what is that mystery liquid says patrick stewart sir patrick stewart in the chat um well sir this is coffee in a fancy mug and um it's actually it's actually a new sponsor that you will see in a couple of in in later this week or next week and let's just chat we can all agree if you watch the last episode of the facility the people who won hey if you won if you're one of the three people who won the wormhole challenge email me so i can send you money but let's all admit chad that i do the best keeps ad on the internet okay please start an emo war podcast i think i think what's what triggered that is that i just uh drove back from las vegas and uh i listened to uh dan carlin's hardcore history the whole way and that puts me in a certain frame of mind you know and imagine the germans at this point they had 12-inch guns you had to cover their ears and they fired these gun you know he's i don't know it puts me in a certain headspace um matt lauc says yes i would eat ascension octopus hey man i wouldn't but that's you cheryl sanders says the fi with the five says the emo war was definitely worth this five dollars uh koopa no one does it like koopa says speaking of your keeps add will it help if the baldness is self-inflicted and non-male based uh well given how much you shave your head koopa on purpose for dark elf fashion keeps probably isn't going to help you because you don't want to keep it but if you want to keep your hair keep it keeps how'd you go from octopus to emo wars you know what i'll tell you jordan you can go back onto the channel after this is live and you can see chat what do we have coming up this week at the facility well oh hey you know what you know what you know what since uh since you're here and since i'm rambling and since it's been a while and i saw chat would you like me to try to show you a preview a quick 10 seconds from of chernobyl footage farrell beast says uh where'd you get that science shirt i must acquire one uh this is the science channel i i was given this by the science channel i don't know if you can buy them oh that's a lot of people saying yes okay i'm gonna try to do this in real time so um it's gonna look weird forgive me this let's turn man i i hope i hope i don't go back into the void of okay we do this in real time i think nothing should be you're going to hear a lot of clicky clacky just a second oh i need to okay okay okay okay um so coming this week on the facility we uh with the early release twins with the 20 says give me some chernobyl footage you got it buddy um hmm okey dokey so uh coming up this week at the facility with the surprise drop of halo infinite's multiplayer coming to the facility we are going to be we are going through the full we're even deriving equations chat we are going through the full physics of building a halo ring this week at the facility uh and i have upgraded kevin's have recently upgraded our technology here at the facility just enough that you know you know our you know my my my computer girlfriend arya you know her you love her you love her little cute little robot voice the cabins have upgraded our technology such that we will have an arya cortana style hologram in that halo episode we'll be building a halo ring in that episode that's later this week and then as i'm about to show you we have just artemis bot that's what you were hinting at yes i recognize you from twitter uh and stop you don't have to thirst after arya all the time don't worry it's fine she's she's not even she's like in the cloud anyway so um one of you in the chat was saying where's that chernobyl footage i shot so much 366 gigabytes and we are just getting through it the first episode um about chernobyl was going to be the the grand overview of my journey it was going to turn out to be so long i think we're splitting it into three chapters um and so this first chapter about going inside of the power plant will be coming to you very soon i can say that and i can also say that we took so much footage and now since we're doing the chapter thing i think we will have no less than eight videos from chernobyl i'll spread it out over the next six months or whatever we go inside of pripyat as you see here we go inside of the powerplant we go and see the sarcophagus face to face we um meet and learn about the dogs of chernobyl and the wildlife of chernobyl we look at how instagram and social media has become the second disaster to hit this area in ukraine it's gonna be a lot of very cool stuff eli thank you for the five and the ten so let me show you is there audio says wonder platypus no so what you're about to see i filmed myself with a facility drone a real one a nice one uh they're all real i mean um but just a little i'll give you a little preview okay koopa says the shots from chernobyl you've shared on patreon are dope that's patreon.com make adam a worker not a soldier that is what is on the top of this building make the atom a worker and not a soldier i shot this by hand by controller with a drone one of the facility drones and this is just a it almost looks like a 3d animation amazing holy cow smooth like butter cue cinematic music oh don't worry so much so much cinematic music so much slow motion i'm actually we're actually right now working with a composer of ambient music for new music just for this series of chernobyl episodes i cannot wait to show you captain dagon says i'm having deja vu i know hey if you're if you're a member of the facility you've already seen this footage but most of you here aren't so we have a lot of amazing things to show you i hope you are here when we do show you if you missed me describing the great emo war of 2000 if you missed me talking about why you might not want to eat octopuses then what you want to do is go back how long before pbs or discovery channel licenses out your videos right when they pay me a bunch of money you can go back to the facility channel catch up on what you missed eli thank you again for the 10 you look very fancy in your suit i appreciate it um like i said coming up the facility we have halo and arya in full body hologram style we have uh the first chapter of the first episode of our chernobyl journey coming out very soon uh we also will be appearing on matt pat's largest ever st jude charity live stream in about a week we'll be there with some other science youtubers um there was one more thing oh also coming we have a new gaming channel where you can see all the cut downs of everything i do on twitch i know i haven't been on twitch recently that's because i've been traveling um but if you want to see highlight reels and cut downs of me playing as a scientist through bioshock and fallout 4 and dead space check out the gaming channel right now there's going to be a lot more on that and i might start streaming on youtube to try it out there so go subscribe if you haven't yet join the facility get a white lab coat get behind the scenes photos get videos early i'm gonna get off stream and put up another behind-the-scenes photo from something right now but if i don't see you any of those places that's fine i'll see you on the next office hours i'll see you in the next episode of the facility until then i hope you have a wonderful rest of your day thank you to everyone who sent today for science i got it i mean of course i i said i can't get to everyone but i gotta shout out again z mandatory sin and sparky legends in their own right who each gifted five hundos it really helps that octopus form that octopus sanctuary that i'm building here at the facility thank you so much if i don't see you i'll see you when i see you have a wonderful rest of your day your week your month or maybe even your year am i gonna get sued by friends i don't want to oh real how does david schwimmer already have our number no i don't want to talk to him you talk to him uh stall him say say you saw chandler kissing his sister through the window okay have a wonderful rest of your day be nice to each other and octopaties if you see them because this is all we got foreign

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Length: 77min 36sec (4656 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 23 2021