💡QuinLED💡New COB style addressable LED strip

hey guys welcome to a new video over the past year we've looked at some new variants of LED strip and most recently it was the rise of cob style addressable LED strip first there was the 5vt 332 LEDs a meter strip which gives you insane resolution but it was only 5 volts so that comes with particular challenges later came the strip I call addressable neon a 24 volt version with 5 cm zones which is much easier to install I think it's time we do a comparison to show you what's currently available so you can make the correct choice for your project we're going to do that in two videos this video will be about looking at 5vt adressable carob LED strips in 60 LEDs a meter 100 LEDs a meter 160 LEDs a meter 240 LEDs meter and 332 LEDs of meter those are all individually addressable so this should be quite [Music] interesting all right first we need to get some of the technical stuff out of the way while doing so I'll have some shots so you can already see what these led steps kind of look like during those shots I'll have a text overlay of what you're actually seeing or I'll try and explain but later in the video we'll be taking a look at detail shots too so as mentioned today's video is about 5vt addressable cob LED strip with different densities of LEDs because these are 5vt each LED on these is individually addressable no groups or anything like that okay let's first take a quick look at my testing setup and then move on on to the LEDs per Channel talk and after that we'll talk power for testing I'm using a meanwell lrs 600-500 amps at 5 volt I did a dedicated review video uh you can check that out if you want on top of that is a Quin LED dig OCTA stack consisting of a power seven board which facilitates all power distribution and includes input and output fuses and some onboard bul capacitors combined with per Port output capacitors to try and deliver the most stable power possible lastly it features a broken fuse indicator light per Port if anything goes wrong on top of that powerboard there is a stack of two times Quin LED dig OCTA brain boards which are both being powered using Q Power post from the powerboard I needed two because the amount of LEDs we're addressing in this test exceeds the total amount a single esp32 can handle with a decent frame rate more about that in a bit other than that each brain board is connected to ethernet and we're using a maximum of four of the eight LED output channels per board about the brain boards these provide fully level shifted output channels combined with resistor switches per port to optimize the data signal for the type of cable being used all of this is in a nice and small package using a 3D printed Mount orop from the Discord server designed it makes for a really nice and small but powerful up to 50 amps in this configuration package it's all running the latest version of wed and brightness animers and such are fully disabled all right enough about the driving Hardware let's move on to the actual LED strips all of these led strips are of the same type and that is the ws2811 protocol this protocol is a fixed rate protocol which means that the data signal always runs at 800 khz no matter if you have a single LED or 1,000 LEDs this has implications for how many LEDs you can run with a single data Channel I have a comprehensive article about this and I recommend you go read that but in there we see a little table we can use to highlight the issue of this if you look at that table when we have 100 LEDs on a single data Channel those LEDs can be updated 333 times per second or as we'll call it 333 FPS that's quite good but if we now connect 1,000 LEDs to that single data Channel we see that we're only getting 33 updates per second which can be considered slow and that will be visible as stuttering animations choppy Transitions and such issues you want a decent amount of updates a second or fps to make sure animation Transitions and such look nicely fluid and smooth my general recommendation is that you shouldn't exceed 600 LEDs per data channel do you need more LEDs then do so using a second data Channel this way all connected LEDs will remain nice and smooth and can still be used as a continuous LED strip for animations and such as a quick note with W LED on the esp32 I recommend sticking at around Max 2 ,000 to 2500 LEDs per board hence why we're using two sync brain boards today so looking at the strips we have today this has some direct implications I'll try and reflect that in this table here which shows how many meters of strip you can run from a single data connection before exceeding that 600 LEDs total limit per data output as you can see from the table with 60 LEDs per meter we can easily run up to 10 m or 32 ft of LED strip without a problem but even stepping up to 160 LEDs in meter this decreases and we can't even run 4 M or 13 ft anymore so these led strips are mostly suitable for situations where you need a short but high resolution strip generally I advise this for projects that are going to be something close by and where maybe the LEDs themselves are directly visible here for instance are two projects like that first is my hardlight project that is still in my living room I built last year during the live stream which has the 332 LEDs of meter strip in there since this strip is very close to diffuser a normal 50/50 style package LED strip would still be visible through the diffuser but using these cob LED strips with a high density it's so smooth and perfectly diffused the high density also helps in regards to light output since it can become quite bright even even with the diffuser on there and here's another example although we built it with an LED strip which has 198 LEDs a meter it's also a perfect example where a highdensity cop LED strip would really perform well so projects that are close by relatively short and hard to diffuse are excellent candidates for this type of strip although the strips can of course be used for larger or rather longer Projects please keep in mind you're going to need to do extra data cabling to make sure everything is going to run smooth even then with for instance the 240 LEDs a meter strip you are realistically only going to be able to run about 8 m before the esp32 itself becomes too slow right during this video I've already been showing you comparison shots taking of the strips lying on my desk varying from having 300 LEDs lit on each roll showing you the differences makes in regards to resolution and also with more LEDs lit to show you the effects a little bit let's take a look at the LEDs from a top down View and configure it in such a way that only the part visible in the camera is active at that time this means animations will be calculated for the same length but the amount of addressable LEDs and that length varies from um well X to X I forgot to note this in my script but it'll be on the screen okay let's move on to the next topic and that's power how much power do these led strips need well instead of going through all the numbers in this video take a look at this chart this chart will also be available in a real world powers sheet article where you can look it up yourself and compare between 5V 12vt and 24v Etc because of that everything is noted in Watts if you study that sheet for a bit you can see the cop style LED uses less power per LED than the generic 50/50 package style LED like we see on ws2812b LED strip now this doesn't mean all things are equal for instance this doesn't take into account the amount of light output that is actually being produced currently I don't have a good method to measure and compare these but I recommend sticking around and looking at my direct comparison shots later in this video which should give you an indication back to Power adding more LEDs per meter also means power required goes up basically the variance with the higher densities such as the 160 240 and 332 LEDs meter you can see the power requirements actually rise above the normal 50/50 style ws2812b package strip for these you really want to start adding multiple injection points for the 240 LEDs a meter and 330 LEDs a meter you'll need one middle injection point about every 2 m to make make sure you don't run into massive voltage drop issues when running them near 100% another thing to note about the 5mm strips they will take in about 2 amps for an edge ejection point where a 10 mm one will take in about 4 amps so that also means you'll have to do more injection points for longer lengths so this again means that these strips are more suited for shorter projects than longer projects because especially at 5vt long 5vt wires get need to be really thick and get really expensive real quick all right let's do a quick summary of the strips you see on the screen again starting at the top we have a standard 60 LEDs meter WS 2012b strip with an ip65 cating on top below that we have a cob LED strip which also has 60 LEDs a meter below that is a carb 100 LEDs a meter strip and then a 160 LEDs a meter strip these three strips are all 5 mm wide so next to having a high LED density they're also very thin making them an option for projects where you are maybe lining the edge of something or generally don't have a lot of space moving on we have a 10 mm wide 240 LEDs of meter version and then the 332 LEDs of meter version I've showed off in a dedicated video about a year ago none of these cob LED strips have a waterproof version currently so they are mostly suited for indoor projects or where you have a decent waterproofing because of what you're building it into like for instance my door number project for all shots we've been seeing the brightness setting in W LED set to 50% as I mentioned it's a bit hard to quantify overall brightness but I'd say that the 60 LEDs per meter car variant is a bit less bright than the 50/50 package style variant starting with the 100 60 LEDs a meter variant though because of the added amount of LEDs I think it overtakes the brightness of the standard ws2812b and the even higher density ones are certainly more bright now of course you need to see that in perspective they are more bright if they're for instance all lit up to the same color if less LEDs are turned on they will be as or slightly less Bright Now in short you can also compare this to the real world powers sheet and there you can see the 160 LEDs meter variant also uses about the same if just slightly more power than the ws2812b variant basically inut power equals brightness most often it does depend a little bit on how efficient the LED itself is but as a general overall rule that can be stated also a cob LED so a tiny little LED in there is generally more um efficient than one in a ws2812b 50/50 package thus plus you can also use the power figures to pick out the right LED strip for your project if you already have one of the others also listed in the power tables so you can compare and you know pick an higher or a lower one this current shot also makes it very clear what the difference can be in regards to how the animations look where some animations are quite unclear and not visible well at all with 60 LEDs a meter or with the ws2812b on the high density LED strips they look a whole lot better this as mentioned is great for projects where the LEDs are either directly visible or very close by and can really make a big difference however if the LEDs are further away or for instance being projected against the wall and you're only seeing the reflection the added resolution makes much less of a difference and it's generally not worth the assle the last thing to discuss about these led strips is price and that's actually quite interesting cuz previously the 332 LEDs a meter variant was quite expensive for 5 m you were paying about 180 bucks and you can't really use 5 m anyway you have to chop it up and Etc but the newer variants especially the 60 and the 100 LEDs a meter in 5 mm width are actually cheaper than normal ws2812b 60 LEDs a meter strip now if you go for the 160 and the 10 mm variant you're paying about a buck maybe a buck and a quarter more per meter but I'd say that's still pretty good versus the uh the normal standard strip basically and uh since that's a 10 m or 10 mm you don't have to inject it that often and with 160 LEDs a meter I think it makes a better alternative for instance than the 144 LED a meter uh 50/50 style package LED strip but anyway here are the prices on the screen in total for 5 m and well what what you'd be paying per meter these are based off of AliExpress I'll try and also search for Amazon links but most of this stuff is generally available on AliExpress and less so on Amazon or at least then it's also cheaper on AliExpress anyway and I'll have some affiliate links in the description if you want to help me out use one of those links and that'll give me a small Kickback but in all cases these variants are now at least somewhat affordable versus the 332 LEDs a meter strip which was just insanely priced I'd say even the the 240 LEDs a meter but especially the 160 LEDs a meter strip is very nicely priced okay well I think that covers most topics I wanted to highlight in this video hopefully the shots have given you a a decent impression on how these are different from traditional 50/50 style package LED strips we've been well using for years I'm really excited for the options these open up especially since some are also available in 5mm variants or for instance running a 100 LEDs meter or 160 LEDs meter strip with a shallow diffuser will already perfectly blend these together where this was much harder before also being cob LED strip there are projects where these won't need any diffusion anymore at all and because of the lower power consumption they make a perfect combination with the dig to go even with its limited budget of 15 watt it can fully Drive the 60 LEDs meter cob variant with a 5 m or 16 ft strip and will still do well even with the 100 LEDs a meter variant so there was a lot of information in this video also oriented toward what these LEDs are best suited for for in my opinion and that is shorter length projects in one of the next videos we're going to look at cop strips again but that time we're going to look at 24 volt variants including rgbw and ip68 variants so waterproofed those are basically the opposite very well suited for longer projects but they come with their owned outsides versus these 5V cop LED strips if you have questions about these strips or about your setup feel free to drop them in the comments or come to the Discord server and chat with lots of smart LED people there I will also be making a addressable cob strip recommendation page on Quin l.in which will live next to the normal addressable LED strip guide that's already on there and well that's all thank you very much for watching and I hope to see you back in the next video bye-bye [Music] 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Length: 18min 17sec (1097 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 13 2023