🏈 NFL Mashup with Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe & Dan Orlovsky following Week 15 🍿 | First Take

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should Andy Reid bench Tony well I don't know if he can because they already th at the receiver you know they got Ross one of their receivers that they were counting on this year he had a domestic violence issue so he still has a suspension to serve so I don't know if and when he's coming back you see Scot Moore got bailed out yesterday he fumbled the ball but they got a a holding call away from the ball that kept them so right now I don't really know how they can bench him considering the fact they're already thed receivers and don't have anywhere else to turn but when you look at it he's Lo he he lost his confidence because he's always he's looking he's looking to make a play every time he gets his hand on the ball if you watch this deal you see he's already looking to get up field well you can't I've never seen anybody score anything or get any yards without the ball in the hands and so it doesn't do you any good to think you're about to take off if you haven't secured the ball yet and it's it's it's getting to the point you see Patrick Mahomes now Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid it cost him $150,000 because their eye they pointed it at the officials in actuality they were upset at cadarius Tony and and Patrick Mahomes is like I don't really know what you want me to do guys I have to throw in the ball but it's going to come a time and I've seen it happen and I don't want to call the quarterback in and the player's name but I've seen a time where a player has dropped the ball so much the quarterback has looked at him he's wide open and go somewhere with the football Ste now and it's and it's about to happen to to to an you're like Patrick you got to throw him the ball but he's going to lose all if he hasn't he's very very close to losing all of his confidence in cadarius Tony I'm glad you brought that up um uh before we move on um Travis Kelce my brother you see what we talking about now I mean he was upset the other day on his podcast you know what I'm saying and you know dropped the f bomb and all this other stuff and you know because he was coming to the defensive receiver we understand why he felt the need to do so we're not Travis Kel for that but do you understand what we're saying sir because it's there plain as day and what you're seeing in that footage with Patrick momes is somebody that's screaming at the offensive Minds the offensive coordinator naggie Andy Reid and is like yo y'all what what more do you want me to do damn because basically they're telling him throw that man a football throw that man a football throw that man a football and he's getting to the point like Shannon just pointed out he don't want to because you don't believe in them anymore I do have a solution now I do have a solution because the drops is one thing the interception from it is another and I think that that elevat if you just dro the pass okay we got another down I go somewhere else okay but when that creates an interception that's when you lose it because not only not only does that create a turnover but that also blemishes your statistics see everybody ain't going to remember that to that that cadarius tonally dro about five passes and four of them led to interceptions they ain't going to remember that what they going to say is Patrick will through four interceptions that's going to take them off okay so we we have to understand that right here's the solution Shannon here's the solution Dan olowski just throw it towards the sideline if he misses it it'll go out of bounds don't throw it anywhere in the middle of the field of that man I mean anything in between the numbers just don't throw it don't even look at his Direction okay and it to make sure it's outside it's there's two choices either going to catch it or it's going to be incomplet and out of bounds it ain't going to be something that he going to drop and it's going to fall into the hands of a Defender don't throw him anything in between the numbers that's my solution to that problem so from my non football play itself I'm just saying damn it I mean I'm just thinking logically I'm putting on my spot thinking right here you understand if you throw it to on the side line okay you make sure it's going to touch up or it's going to go out of bounds cuz if it's in bounds and his hand or what you're depending on are the dolphins really this good or are the Jets just that bad jets are really this bad they're really um they're pretty damn awful um I'm not GNA hold this against Salah too much it was a bad day yesterday it was awful and if yesterday is indicative of the entire season that would be different but there have been many times this season where we looked at the Jets defense and we've said they're pretty impressive they just they just can't they just can't score points to save their Dam life Zack Wilson is a huge problem he shouldn't be on this roster he shouldn't be a backup he should be gone having said all of that I'm looking at Douglas the GM why was Zach Wilson on this roster why was he the backup what did you do this comes a point in time where we have to look at the roster assembled and what have you and we have to say we understand that Aaron roders went down but my god did you have to look this bad and this is what the New York Jets are the offensive line is trash they're quarterback is trash and so when you look at it from that perspective what hope do the receivers have what hope do the defense have I think what you're looking at with the New York Jets is a team that is so incredibly disappointed they came into the season with such lofty expectations Aaron roders gets hurt on the fourth play of the Season offensively for them Shannon and I were at that game together all right you get you get hurt then and then you turn around and and despite how Elite your defense is and the expectations that came with it week after week after week you see that you can't score a damn point and that your quarterback is just just not good had no business being the number two overall pick and what have you and that's we have to look at Douglas and and and and what you assemble for this roster if anybody should be on the hot seat it should be him Salah ain't too damn far behind but I'd give him an opportunity to have a quarterback because he hasn't had one yet since he's been with the New York Jets that's Douglas's job to find him one that's not his job and he has hasn't had one and I think that's what the problem is Stephen I agree with everything that you said I think the thing is what they were hoping for Zach Wilson is that Aaron Rogers would get a couple of years up under his belt Zach Wilson wouldn't have to play for two years and he'd gained valuable experience through that but that didn't happen but when I look at this Jet's roster as quarterbacks you mean to tell me that Zack Wilson and Trevor Simeon are better than Cam Newton and I'm not saying cam not the 2015 Cam Newton but 2017 2018 Cam Newton better than both of them jokers you can't convince me otherwise the Jets are that bad now I'm not saying Miami isn't good I think they're a good team I don't think they're great uh we haven't seen them beat anybody of of Merit yet uh we'll see what the Bron what happened with the Broncos their final record but thus far when they step up in competition they fall down but the Jets are horrible the Jets are horrible and you're not winning because the quarterback is the one position that you can't hide you can hide a corner you can hide an offensive lineman you can hide a lot of positions but the guy that touches the ball on average 60 to 70 times the game You Can't Hide him because of what a defense will do they'll make you play him they'll make you make him an active participant in the game and not a cheerleader years before uh uh do you remember you could run the football you could disguise your quarterback but the NFL the way they open the game up and and basically force you to throw it you can't hide him any longer so it's the Jets being pathetic being putrid and they're that bad Miami is okay but this is all about this is all about the excuse me this is all about the Jets not the Dolphins was it a bad look for a Payton to be ripping into Russell will hell no hell no the only thing that I'm mad about is Shawn Payton feeling the need to tell somebody it's none of your business you know what that's my player I'm the head coach I yell at who the hell I want to yell at if they ain't getting the job done if I got a problem with something that they've done I we ain't on a sideline trying to win PR contest he's a head coach do you want have you have we not seen Bill bich yell at here we not seen Bill parcel yell at people have we not seen Mike Shanahan get at people Shannon sharp your former coach what about what about John Harbaugh what about Mike Tomlin the list goes on and on damn it if a player ain't doing what they supposed to be doing you the coach gets on you that's coaching I mean it's listen this is a Russell Wilson who by the way has been having a good year but I I literally saw some ignorant ass people on social media talking about he just had a kid so what congratulations wish you nothing but the greatest of health and all of that other stuff but that don't have a damn thing to do about what you complete 56% of your passes against Detroit and y'all getting RAM rodded and run out of the Motor City they got one they have nothing to do with the other oh so you know what I I got family issues I got something to celebrate familywise so I get to come on TV and come on the air and bring all of that with me and then and then not do my job no that is nonsense Shan Payton has been in the league for years been coaching over 15 years of head coach he want to get into somebody's behind so be it he has every right to do it and don't have to explain the damn thing because I wanted to that's what he should have said to the reporter if if Russ had fun with the football if Russ had thrown an interception I probably could agree with you although I haven't seen a coach getting into it like this on the sideline with a coach of a quarterback of that caliber but the offensive lineman line up off Sid how the hell is that Russ fault I'm now if Russ if Russ audible out of a play or something like that transpired but I didn't I didn't handle being yelled at period let alone being yelled at publicly so for me Stephen A I I'm going disagree with you because for me he needs to offer some clarity because I'm sure the reporters are sitting there like well okay if the offensive lineman lined up outside how is that Russ's fault did Russ do something was it something that led up to that maybe there was a sequence deal that happened that we didn't see or that we don't know but N I don't think I don't think in that situation Shawn Pon was right to yell and and and undress basically Russ on the sideline like he did I Shan I completely understand where you're coming from in regards to you not responding to it in that regard this is totally okay with me usually I'm like you never do it to a quarterback in public this is December football it's basically a playoff game for Denver they weren't playing well offensively it's a highly emotional moment I don't think this is anything other than two Elite competitors and certainly one at the head of the organization trying to gather the attention of the quarterback and maybe others I mean Shan you know this sometimes coaches yell at this person just because they know they can and they're really trying to yell at this person and our group so you know but not the quarterback de I've I've been y that before well let me say this stop it Shan but shanon but check this out shanet shanon you don't know whether whether the off sides was a byproduct of what Russell Wilson did and and and that could have been what Shawn pton was upset about also I saw no push back from Rossell Wilson zero he said go ahead that's not his that's not his personality Stephen A he's not he he's not like you remember when Bill O'Brien you remember when Bill o got in Tom Brady's face and Tom was going right back at him that's Tom's personality that's not Russ's personality wait a minute but wait a minute I'm saying this how do you know because he was playing for Pete Carol before and then Nathaniel hacket and they certainly would never do that so that's not their personality so we don't know right we don't know because Russell Wilson had never been exposed like that but I think the thing is being knowing him the little bit that I do I don't know him that well in the little bit that I've been around him Stephen A that that doesn't seem like his personality he's type of guy that okay I'm going to take the coaching and if there's something that he said that I didn't like I'll address that at a later date and time but like I said like you said now I'm not privy to everything that was being said throughout the entirety of that drive maybe there is a call that Sean wanted Russ to get to that he didn't get to maybe there was a check that he wanted him to check that he didn't get to maybe he wanted him the quarterback andne could run something else that he ran that led to that so I'm not sure and I think the reporters are asking like okay you're yelling at that what was the sequence because we scored and the guy happened to line up off sides if the guy lined up outsid how the hell the offensive line how is the quarterback responsible for how the offensive line Lin up but they but they were asking for they weren't necessarily asking for what spec in terms of a play breakdown to explain it they were asking why you yelling at your quarterback and he's like you know it's none of your business why it's none of your business why I'm doing it and he's absolutely right to say that and keep in mind mind Russell Wilson did spend last year being incredibly pacified I mean they did they did everything but put a bib on them put a bit but you know what Stephen A I know Stephen A if he's in that if he was in that locker room asking that question he'd ask that same question because right I would you damn right I would have asked you know I would have asked I want to know the details and then you as followups lots of followups right provocative ones that's what I well that's what I did take too on the St show get real provocative Dan are you impressed Baker Mayfield has the Bucks in first place of the NFC South I'm impressed not surprised M I've always been a baker guy I've always thought that Baker was a good player and that he had a lot of people who said unnecessary things or or or judgment about his game a lot of people say like oh Dan you're this quarterback apologist all you do is try to prop up mediocre quarterbacks no I don't I try to tell her what it is I try to tell her what it is Baker Mayfield's a good player bro Shannon he's a good player Lambo he went into Lambo and did something that that's not what done have a per perfect pting that's not what Molly asked Molly asked were you surprised that she that he has this team in front of the NFC South when you look at Desmond Ritter when you look at Desmond Ritter when you look at Bryce when you look at Bryce young and Derek Carr really really really Desmond rer Bryce you thought you thought Tampa Bay was going to be in there over pitch New Orleans thought I thought they listen when we thought about New Orleans we thought about their defense we didn't think much about Derek Carr who's been in the league for nine years and doesn't have a playoff Victory stop okay that's number one number two stop acting like we're making stuff up about what we've seen from Baker Mayfield we never called him a Scrub but the former number one overall pick okay it did not has not measured up that is a fact okay that is a fact and so when and you had it one Mayfield's going to go to the playoffs to last three years excuse me they beat Pittsburgh a couple of years ago that was a really good season on his part yes sir outside of that how has Baker Mayfield looking in his career Stephen A he's he was in Carolina who obviously is what about when he that's not what you just said about Bryce young where where is Bryce young at so Carolina's not that hold on Carolina is not that good they're in a bad situation oh I just said Bryce Bryce young isn't Carolina and you like oh Baker Baker I said New Orleans I said New Orleans Shannon you unequally thought Tampa Bay no no no no no no no first of all he was in Cleveland after the playoff year he was playing awesome then hurt the shoulder okay the shoulder was a huge part of that season Cleveland moves on then he goes to I believe Carolina Carolina's in not a good situation right now in goes to the Rams plays some good football for the Rams not great but good football here's the point everyone says that Baker Mayfield stinks no he doesn't he's a good player highs and lows but we talk about Baker Mayfield we can't sit here and say well if Brock pie was the number three pick he would be this guy that we Rave about and always talk about Baker as the number one pick context let me ask you this has Baker Mayfield as the number one overall pick a franch supposedly franchise building quarterback being everything you thought he would be it's a simple yes or a simple no yes he's everything you thought he would be you done lost your mind how your mind guys how my God how take last year out of the equation cuz he's played he's playing on two different organizations the r played on two different organizations what great qu what great quarterback decided to go chase Desa let me ask you a question what that's not what San Diego did that's not what the Chargers did that's not what Cincinnati did when you got great qu backs do you go look for another quarterback if he's what you said he [Music] is
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Length: 17min 14sec (1034 seconds)
Published: Mon Dec 18 2023
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