替人流淚的職業!你聽過孝女白琴嗎?台灣「哭喪」傳統,對現代人還有意義嗎?ft. 孝女白琴 劉君玲《 強者我朋友 》EP 041|志祺七七

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I just recalled the situation when I participated in the funeral of a relative. If I had actually heard it, I would have cried at the scene because I was already a little emotional. For me, I was actually fully involved in every scene. So I will guide the family members with my own feelings Hiho Hello everyone, I am Zhiqi and welcome back to the strong. My friend’s guest today is the filial daughter Bai Qin who has been reported on the BBC. Miss Liu Junling, what is Liu Junling’s strength? First of all, she is 12 She started working in the funeral industry at the age of 18, and became the youngest filial daughter Bai Qin in Taiwan at the age of 18. While inheriting the tradition of filial daughter Bai Qin for Taiwan, she also created a new look for the funeral industry. Let us know today Let’s get to know the filial daughter Bai Qin. Please Jun Ling, please say hello to our audience. Hello everyone, I am Jun Ling . Today besides us, there are also our projects outside the camera, Yangyang. Let’s chat together. Hello everyone, I am Yangyang. Okay, but before we start, let us enter some business service time. Now there may be many people who don’t know what Bai Qin is. Can you briefly introduce Bai Qin, a filial daughter? In fact, in the early days when transportation was not convenient , there was a traditional custom. When a son wants to see him off, he has to hold a fight, and when a daughter wants to cry, the reason is actually because transportation was not convenient in the early days. When she got home, she usually wouldn't see her for the last time, so this traditional custom evolved into a role in a puppet show. She wanted to find her mother. This character was later used by the Gezi opera actress for folk use. So what does the so-called cry Lutou mean? Crying Lutou means to send him off on his last journey , so it is equivalent to letting everyone know about me through crying. I’m finally back to see you. In the early days, it seemed like people would cry when someone left. How did I get into this industry in the first place? It was because of our family business. My grandma used to be a filial daughter. She used to be a filial daughter. Bai Qin was doing all these things when she was a child, because after her mother passed away, her family suddenly ran into debt and there was a shortage of manpower , so she followed her grandma and her sisters and brothers to make the soul-drawing formation. At that time, the industry was actually quite prosperous, and every time there was a chance of success. Once in Taiwan, a bereaved family would call three, four, or five formations to fight against Taiwan, so there was an urgent need for manpower at that time . In fact, when I was young, I would resist taking this kind of job. But later, my sister said, after all, this is my family's job. You can learn it well. It's not bad. At least you are in this industry. This is your skill, and it can be considered half-coaxed and half-cheated. How old were you at that time? When you came out, you were the youngest filial daughter. Bai Qin was about 18 years old , because at that time, the market demand happened . The young filial daughter was half-coaxed and half-cheated and then learned it. I just mentioned that this is what the family does. I have heard that many filial daughters, Bai Qin, are passed down from their ancestors. Is this true? Yes , I basically learned it before. A filial daughter, Bai Qin , or one who can be a leader, is usually a poor family member . They ask their children to learn kung fu and learn to lead the souls of the dead . A filial daughter needs more skills , such as singing and teaching, so it is usually more likely to be a family business. I will pass on the work of this dutiful daughter , so how to sing it is actually spread in the family, and it will be passed down in the family , so there will be different factions with different practices . For example, when our dutiful daughter came out to compete against the Taiwanese, wen's dutiful daughter The filial daughter of Wuwu means that some people will cry and suddenly do somersaults , and some people will cry all the time and use their voices to get their family members into that situation. In this way, they may be taking a very emotional route, like my sister. It was adapted into a way that Bai Qin, the filial daughter, used to speak in a more Gozai style , so most people would not listen so carefully and if they couldn’t understand my sister, she would change it into a more vernacular way , so they have been innovating internally. It is necessary to seek innovation and change. Otherwise, people will not be in the mood to listen. If they don’t understand, they will not be able to integrate into the situation. What does it look like when working? Qin, we basically used to follow the family members in mourning , then we have to make a distinction . Today we are here to mourn on behalf of the family members. We are the performers today. My sister made a Japanese kimono with a bow tie. The belt and the whole set are all white. Maybe add some piping on the white clothes to separate them. Are there any personal items that must be brought? In fact, in the past, it was just clothes that were put on. This was the clothes of a dutiful daughter. But in the early days, my sister had He said that you should prepare knee pads because your feet will be injured. But when you were a child, you were always brave because sometimes your family members would invite you to come and they would say that they would have to crawl with you for so long. You have knee pads with you , so we should just climb by yourself, so you would get angry and say no. Ah, I didn’t even use knee pads because my feet couldn’t stand it later because of long-term occupational diseases , so I prepared knee pads like this because sometimes it seems like I have to crawl in from the outside, right ? I started crawling just a few lanes from the entrance of the alley. You guys are like You have to crawl, cry, crawl, cry , and talk at the same time. Is it still like this now? It's still just because in the early days, people built sheds in their own homes, that is, bereaved families . Now most of the cities in the city are in funeral parlors , so the chance of crawling is not that high. Do you often encounter some supernatural events when doing this kind of work ? In fact, we just don’t think about it too weird and confusing, but it will be warm. A long time ago, my brother was on the go. We often ran on mountain roads. Sometimes we were just on the go. I can drive very fast on mountain roads, but I don't know how to slow down. Once, my brother's car was a new car, and it suddenly got stuck when he was turning a corner. We were all going to the car. The moment before, he got out of the car and checked because it couldn't start no matter how he started . As soon as he opened the car door, there was a cliff next to it. If you didn't suddenly turn off the engine, you might have fallen. So this is still happening. Maybe someone is helping. I 'm a little curious about whether funerals can take place from morning to night. In the past, there were more opportunities to have an evening show, which is a farewell ceremony. There would be a performance the night before, which is equivalent to a vigil until the last one. It's evening, and then I send him out for the farewell ceremony in the morning. Now because time is becoming more and more condensed, there is not so much time for doing things , so it is usually done on the day of the farewell ceremony . In the past, there might be 40 minutes on the day of the farewell ceremony. we do Now maybe let us expand and contract like this for 20 minutes and 30 minutes , so you have to go to work regardless of the sun or rain . On a typhoon day , no matter how bad the weather or environment is today , you have to go to work. It is the worst I have ever encountered. What is the weather and the worst environment? The water is flooded up to our knees. We can’t even climb. We can’t climb. We can only wade through the water and our whole bodies are already wet. Will your family members still follow you? Will you ask your family members to follow you ? Because they may not be that professional , they will take them to wade in this way. They have also encountered some construction sites with cement floors interspersed with stone and glass. Because he was setting up scaffolding at the construction site , it was easy to get injured. It was easy to get hurt because it would go through . At times, even the knee pads couldn’t be protected because things would penetrate through the knee pads. I don’t know if I can ask this question. Is there any way to reveal what the price of a show might be? I ’m probably over 10,000 yuan per show now. Personally, because I know how to specify, it might have been less than a few thousand yuan in the past , so Bai Qin, the dutiful daughter, usually has one person . There will be no dutiful daughter Bai Qin, and there will be a driver during the performance. In the past, there would be a piano player, and now it may be almost They all know how to play tapes because there are not many people who can do this. Those who can play the piano may have become traditional Chinese music performers. It’s a bit hard to imagine because I myself have never seen the performance of the filial daughter Bai Qin. I am very curious about the other part. It is because it is, for example, there will be some content about crying. Do the family members need to prepare this content or do you prepare it yourself? Basically, we prepare it ourselves because time is becoming more and more condensed and there is no way to talk to the family members like before. When talking about how this deceased person passed away today, there were different explanations for different ways of passing away in the past . For example, he may have died suddenly, or he may say that looking back on the past, we were talking and laughing. How could we have known that you would suddenly leave us like this after an eternity ? If you have a chronic illness, you will say that we have been praying to God and worshiping Buddha for a long time , hoping that your health will get better. Unexpectedly, there are unforeseen circumstances, and people may have misfortunes and misfortune, but we still can't save you. Wow, this part that was just a talk and just a white lip actually has some truth. Is it a part of the performance? Can you demonstrate it to us? It can be chanted. For example, it is similar to the singing method of Gezaixi. Wow, I just recalled the scene of participating in the funeral of a relative. If I really heard it, I would really cry at the scene. I came out because I was already a little emotional at the moment, yes, for me, in fact, I really put all my energy into every scene , so I will guide the family members with my own feelings , for example, what will I think? I will be very Sadness or how I feel when I lose a loved one today, I will integrate myself into it or add some elements to make the family members more excited. This method is like this. In fact, when I had never attended a funeral when I was a child, I would think about why there is a funeral. There are so many different ceremonies. When I was a child, I would find it troublesome to talk about them. But after I attended my grandpa’s funeral, I suddenly felt that all the ceremonies were meaningful. For example, you will wonder why you have to fold so much. There are lotus flowers because nothing is right at the moment and you will be sad. When you are sad, if there is nothing to do, you will just keep thinking. But if everyone gets together to fold lotus flowers, we will start to talk about how grandpa used to be , and the family will chat together. Then I think about my grandpa’s affairs , and when I have something to do , I feel that the family is united , and grief seems to be gradually dealt with through talking . If I can release my emotions through crying , I think there are many elders who are not able to cry well on their own. But if we can be together in that situation, we will feel more comfortable. Many rituals are designed for the people who remain in the world. This is how I feel at the moment. I also want to help netizens ask a question because young people nowadays The distance from the funeral seems to be relatively far, and they will start to wonder why they need to find strangers to help cry at the funeral. They may even feel that it is a bit noisy to cry like this , or there is no need to crawl in from the outside like this. Kneel down, what do you think about such doubts and doubts? In fact, I once met a very young family member, probably in his 20s. After he was over, he came to chat with me. He told me, I know you have read the reports. He said, in fact, at first, I felt that you I was very noisy and told him that in the past, when I was at home, I might have heard the filial daughter Bai Qin yelling at someone's funeral outside. But he said, "I am very grateful to you today." He told me quite easily , but His eyes were filled with tears and he said, "You may think it's easy for me to talk like this , but in fact, you just helped me talk a lot because everyone is not good at expressing these things. It's the first time I've ever faced him and said, I don't know if you have any." Fixed lines or is it true that every family has a similar situation? You just stabbed me at a point. I asked which part it was. He said that you just suddenly told me very hard that you knew you shouldn’t talk back to you but you still kept talking. Talking back to you is a mistake I know I shouldn't make, but I still make it on purpose. He said you stabbed me, but it's really what I always wanted to apologize to my mother , but what should I do if I can't speak? It's really touching. Because it is the first time for everyone to face this matter, and there are some things that you would not say out loud if you don’t have a chance , but work like Dutiful Girl Bai Qin provides the situation for everyone to think about these things carefully , and he said please Before we came, he had a dispute with the elders. They thought why should we find someone else to cry? He said, but later on , we felt that your voice influenced us. Later, he silently shed tears again. He said, I deliberately told you in a relaxed manner. But in fact, you really touched on our pain points. Thank you , and then you held my hand like this. At this time, do you feel that there is still a sense of accomplishment and meaning in doing this job? You will feel very small , but we seem to be able to replace you. People express something like this. Another thing that reminds me is that it seems that it is increasingly rare to see people asking for the filial daughter Bai Qin. Is this true? Then the second thing is how do you face such a big environment? A change because in the past, the older generation would invite their filial daughter Bai Qin to come They will think that the farewell ceremony must include the filial daughter Bai Qin , who must be involved in the dead soul array. In the past, there must even be a drum pavilion to take the souls home together. Now it may be more modern and there will be some replacements , such as the Buddha car. The drum pavilion is not as noisy as it used to be . The filial daughter Bai Qin is actually aging now. Many old people have left. Young people don’t know how to invite this or farewell ceremonies are becoming easier and easier now. Funeral parlors can allow you to do so. The usage time is said to be 3 hours , but it actually takes about 1 hour to 2 hours , so you have to have so many red tapes for these things. In fact, young people cannot absorb so much. Furthermore, they don’t know that these things exist. So we have already been responding to this general environment. Many years ago, I created the first female team in the funeral industry to create a role for women in this industry. Why did I want to create an all-female team at that time ? Because before I felt that I couldn't escape or would be caught back home. I continued to be a filial daughter, Bai Qin, and held the Soul Tracing Form , but I would suffer from professional burnout. Also, I kept feeling gloomy and miserable every day, and thought about what else I could do in life , so I later started a girl's life. The team wants to say that in this industry at the beginning, there were some local dolls , which were more traditional funerals. They were doing some old funerals , so maybe they were all dressed as boys , and there were not so many straight suits, etc. So they just wanted to use girls to appease the families. Girls may be able to comfort family members by hugging or holding them. These comforts may be expressed in different ways by speaking softly to family members. In the early days, there were some old funeral directors who felt that girls in this industry had the problem of dirty menstruation , so they would resist but wait until When there are some etiquette companies that are more accepting of new practices, they feel that women in this industry seem to have more different sparks than boys. For example, when he is crying at the top of his lungs, we girls can hug him. I couldn’t hug boys who were family members , so I started to become famous. I heard that you actually do many different types of activities besides funerals, right? Because later on, you became famous and gradually started to imitate more . How do you distinguish between sexes? I started to take my team to learn about the SPA of the general body , which is to help the general body with massage and cleaning. Then I learned to help the general body with repairs. Then I started to transfer to the reception of temple fairs, wedding banquets and other industries that need girls to create. It is a new and different job , so I first found a special position that girls can play in funerals , and then developed different forms with girls as the main body. Wow, how many people are you working with the company now ? In fact, it should be As long as you give me a clear time , like before, I had 178 girls at a spring wine banquet and then a temple fair, because there must be some costumes . As long as we have time, it doesn't matter how many girls we can have. Wow, there are also One point is that many people will mention that you have been interviewed by the BBC. After you were interviewed by the BBC, do you think it had any change or impact on you? Many family members will designate the person who will be on TV and then I I think I am just saying that I present things in our industry that others cannot see more thoroughly to people abroad or in our own Taiwan who don’t know what our industry is doing so that they can see it . Is there any past experience? What kind of strange looks do you receive because of this kind of work ? As I said earlier, there are actually some young people who will resist their family members and elders. Why do they invite others to cry? So of course they don’t treat us well when they see us. With such a good look, you will think that my family invited this nondescript person to come to my house and you came to cry and crawl into my house. I don’t know you , so that kind of look will make people feel uncomfortable. Or maybe we used to be pointed at when they saw our car on the road. You know how to make fun of it , etc. How do you adjust to this ? I can’t help it. This is my family business and I really want to escape. When I was a child, people pointed at the car and said it was an electronic float or that you were crying for your father and mother. Later, it became I want to carry this work forward, and I want you to know , or in fact, we often have a joke saying, " No matter who you are today, I am telling you to kneel, I am telling you to kneel, " which means that in my job today, I am here to cry, crawl, kneel, and crawl on behalf of the family members. So no matter who you are today, if we ask you to kneel, you still have to kneel. We sometimes tease ourselves like this , but in fact, we just want to say that we are here to cry on your behalf today. We are here to vent on your behalf today and express something that you don’t have. In terms of method , it will become what you think in the future. Forget it , I just need to carry forward my work. Is there any special goal that I want to achieve in the future? Because this is the dusk industry now. Of course, I have contact with etiquette and what else? Now that we have joint ventures with others in funeral parlors, we can further diversify the industry and even diversify our own team. Finally, is there anything in particular that you would like to share with our Zhiqi Qiqi audience? Don't look down on any industry. Every industry has its own meaning . We are very grateful to Jun Ling for sharing this episode with us today. If you like today's video , don't forget to share it or click here to watch it. More related videos. So today’s Zhiqi Qiqi comes to an end here. We’ll see you tomorrow night. Goodbye.
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Channel: 志祺七七 X 圖文不符
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Keywords: 孝女白琴, 劉君玲, 台灣, 殯葬, 父後七日, 喪禮, 哭喪, 喪葬文化, 親人過世, 台灣傳統
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Length: 22min 15sec (1335 seconds)
Published: Sat May 04 2024
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