BORDER. HI, BILL. YOU ARE ON, BILL. >> HEY, GUYS, BREAKING NEWS AS YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, JUST HEARING THE FEDERAL JUDGE HAS BLOCKED THE ADMINISTRATION EFFORT TO DROP THIS ON MONDAY. BORDER PATROL AGENTS AND D.P.S., IT'S WELL COME NEWS BUT ALL IT'S GOING TO DO IS KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. TITLE 42 WILL HAVE TO DROP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT ON MONDAY. WE HAVE SEEN AN EXPLOSION IN NUMBERS. WE HAD MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 230,000 MIGRANT APPREHENSIONS, THE HIGHEST IN HISTORY, AND MORE THAN 1.3 MILLION ILLEGAL CROSSINGS SINCE THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR. EVEN WITH TITLE 42 IN PLACE, EXPLOSION OF NUMBERS. WHAT THIS MEANS NOW, FOR CERTAIN COUNTRIES, CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL STILL BE ABLE TO EXPELL THEM BACK TO MEXICO, MEANING THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SHOWN THIS VIDEO WHERE ONCE PEOPLE COME ACROSS AND ARE DETAINED BY BORDER PATROL, RATHER THAN TAKE THEM TO THE PROCESSING CENTER AND PAPERWORK FOR HOURS, THEY CAN PUT THEM RIGHT BACK TO A BUS, DROP THEM OFF AT THE PORT OF ENTRY AND EXPELL THEM BACK TO MEXICO. IT CAN TAKE LESS THAN AN HOUR. THEY HAVE USED IT MORE THAN 1.7 MILLION TIMES SINCE MARCH OF 2020, THAT BEING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. FRONT LINE BORDER AGENTS WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR THIS NEWS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TEXTING WITH THEM FOR THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, EVER SINCE NEWS CAME DOWN THEY WERE PLANNING TO GET RID OF THIS ON MAY 23 AND THEY WERE BASICALLY SAYING BUCKLE UP, IT'S GOING TO BE TOTAL ANARCHY AND CHAOS AT THE BORDER. D.H.S. OWN PROJECTIONS WERE SAYING UPWARDS OF 18,000 ILLEGAL CROSSINGS A DAY COULD HAVE HAPPENED IF TITLE 42 WERE TO DROP. 540,000 CROSSING IN ONE MONTH. MORE THAN HALF A MILLION. AND PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT WE JUST SAW LAST MONTH IN APRIL, WHICH WAS THE HIGHEST IN U.S. HISTORY. SO, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF A SIGH OF RELIEF FOR BORDER AGENTS AND TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT NOT TOO MUCH. THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN EXPLODING EVEN WITH TITLE 42 IN PLACE. YOU DON'T HAVE WELL OVER 200,000 APPREHENSIONS AT THE BORDER MONTH AFTER MONTH WITHOUT THERE BEING A SERIOUS SURGE AT THE BORDER AND WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING THE VIDEO ALL DAY LONG. WE KEEP GETTING THE MASSIVE GROUPS OF 150 TO 200 CROSSING EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN BIG PICTURE, THE ADMINISTRATION CANNOT GET RID OF TITLE 42 ON MONDAY AS PLANNED, THEY HAVE TO KEEP ENFORCING IT WHILE THE LITIGATION PLAYS OUT. BACK TO YOU. >> Jeanine: BILL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY 1.7 MILLION SINCE 2020 HAVE BEEN SENT BACK BECAUSE OF TITLE 42, HOW DO THEY MAKE A DECISION THAT SOMEONE SHOULD BE SENT BACK BASED ON TITLE 42? WE WERE NOT EVEN COVID TESTING THE PEOPLE. HOW DO THEY MAKE THAT DECISION? >> REALLY IT DEPENDS WHAT COUNTRY THEY ARE FROM AND WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC IS. IT STARTED OFF WITH THE NORTHERN TRIANGLE COUNTRIES. GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, EL SALVADOR. WE HAD AGREEMENTS WE WOULD PUT THEM ON FLIGHTS OR KICK THEM BACK TO MEXICO. AND DO THE SAME THING WITH MEXICANS. ALONG THE WAY ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION'S CHANGED, DEALS CHANGED WITH COUNTRIES IN THE NORTHERN TRIANGLE. NICARAGUANS, THEY WILL NOT TAKE THE CITIZENS BACK UNLESS THEY HAVE A PASSPORT. CUBAN, WE DON'T HAVE A TITLE 42 WITH THEM, AND VENEZUELA, AND ONE OF THE CRITICISMS HAS BEEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT THEM ON A BUS AND SEND THEM BACK TO MEXICO. FOR SOME DEMOGRAPHICS, THEY PREFER TO PUT THEM ON AN AIRPLANE AND SEND THEM BACK, AND YOU KNOW, YEAH, THE BORDER PATROL UNION SAYS IF WE REALLY WANT TO ENFORCE TITLE 42 ACROSS THE BOARD, KICK EVERYBODY BACK TO MEXICO. ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT DONE THAT. THEY HAVE PREFERRED TO TRY TO FLY SOME PEOPLE BACK AND WHEN THE HOST COUNTRIES DON'T COOPERATE THEY CAN'T DO IT. >> Jeanine: I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL. THE QUESTION I'M GETTING AT LAWRENCE IS THE FACT THAT THE DECISION TO SEND PEOPLE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL COUNTRY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 42. THEY ARE SAYING 42. BUT IF NICARAGUA WON'T TAKE THEM BACK, WHAT DOES IT DO FOR 42 OR NOT. SEEMS 42 IS USED IN SOME CASES BUT NOT OTHERS. >> BASED ON THE REPORT AND I'VE DONE IT AT THE BORDER, 42 HAS BEEN USED AS A BAND AID. IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE MASS PROBLEM AT THE BORDER. ON ANOTHER NOTE, DID THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION A FAVOR HERE. BUT NUMBER TWO, AS A RESULT OF THE JUDGE MAKING THIS DECISION, A LOT OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE PLACED IN DANGER COMING ACROSS THE BORDER. A LOT OF THE FOLKS ASK WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THE CHILDREN ACROSS THE BORDER, IT'S A TICKET. THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET ACROSS AND THAT -- THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY AT THE BORDER. MOST OF THE RUNNERS THAT YOU SEE ARE SINGLE ADULT MALES BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THEY CAN'T COME INTO THE COUNTRY UNDER TITLE 42. SO THIS IS GOING TO PUT OUR BORDER PATROL AGENTS YET AGAIN IN A BAD POSITION BUT AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO PUT THESE KIDS AND THESE WOMEN IN A BAD POSITION AS WELL. JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE ISSUE FOR THOSE DEMOCRATS ON THE BORDER AREAS. THEY ARE DEMOCRATS AT HEART. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IF THEY CANNOT DO THIS, THEY UNDERSTAND THE VOTERS ARE PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THEM BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE, AND I'LL NOTE THIS, I KNOW JESS IS GOING TO HOP IN ON THIS. LATINOS AS WELL, OVER 50% ARE MINORITY. THE TEXAS D.P.S. DOING A LOT OF THE PATROLS, THEY ARE MINORITIES. LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS AT THE BORDER, THEY ARE MINORITIES. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF YOU HATE THE PEOPLE AND WANT A BETTER LIFE, THIS IS ABOUT LAW AND ORDER AND THE STRAIN OF RESOURCES IN THE AREA. >> Jeanine: THE POINT LAWRENCE MAKES IS A GOOD ONE, HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE DEMOCRATS ALONG THE BOARD RUNNING FOR OFFICE? >> IT GIVES A FEW MORE MONTHS TO LISTEN TO DEMOCRATS, ONE WILL BE CHALLENGING SINEMA IN 2024 IN ARIZONA, AND FEELS LIKE A TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A COMMISSION, A REPUBLICAN RETIRED FROM CONGRESS, AND GET THEM TOGETHER FOR A BIPARTISAN PLAN. WE HAVE TITLE 42, IT WAS A BAND AID AND A THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION ON THE SHOW YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS ISSUE WHERE IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED THIS IS A HEALTH POLICY. TITLE 42 CAME INTO BEING BECAUSE OF COVID. WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS A WORLD WHERE HOPEFULLY COVID IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE RUNNING THE IMMIGRATION POLICY, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP. HOPEFULLY NOW WE HAVE A FEW MONTHS, THE SUMMER, VERY HIGH NUMBERS OF CROSSINGS TO DEAL WITH THAT, AND WE CAN GO INTO NOVEMBER WITH THE CLEAR PLAN. >> Jeanine: OK, WRAP IT UP FOR US. >> IT IS A TESTAMENT TO HOW APPEALING OUR SYSTEMIC RACIST COUNTRY IS THAT MILLIONS OF NONWHITES WANT TO COME HERE. AS LONG AS WE CARE ABOUT IMMIGRATION, IT'S LIKE CRIME AND INFLATION, THE WHITE HOUSE WON'T BECAUSE IN THEIR VIEW WE ONLY VIEW THESE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE ARE DEPLORABLES EMBRACING REPLACEMENT THEORY. WHEN ALL IT IS, WHETHER IT'S CRIME OR INFLATION OR IMMIGRATION, IT'S ABOUT PROCESS. IT'S ABOUT RULES. IT'S NOT ABOUT PEOPLE. WE ARE A BIG -- REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERTARIANS, WE ARE ALL ABOUT SYSTEMS. WE JUST WANT YOU TO BE PART OF THE SYSTEM AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE PAINTING A BROAD BRUSH OF THE RACISM STUFF AND THEIR WAY OF DOING IT HERE LIKE THEY DID WITH CRIME ELSEWHERE. >> Jeanine: GO AHEAD, KATIE. >> THE BIGGER ISSUE OF THE SYSTEM, BILL REPORTED THERE WAS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN ARRESTED IN TEXAS FOR HELPING TO SMUGGLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ACROSS THE BORDER. BIGGER PICTURE, THE LONGER THIS LAWLESSNESS GOES ON AND THE MISSION IS TO PROCESS PEOPLE, NOT TO ENFORCE THE BORDER AND PROTECT THE COUNTRY, THAT CORRUPTION WILL BREED AND IT WILL GET COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. IT WILL REACH PUBLIC OFFICIALS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, SO THERE IS A LONGER TERM CONSEQUENCE TO ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF LAWLESSNESS TO CONTINUE AND ONCE IT'S IN THOSE SYSTEMS, WE LOOK LIKE THE MEXICO CORRUPTION AND THAT'S A LOT OF REASON WHY IT'S HAPPENING AS WELL AND ONCE YOU GET TO THAT POINT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GO BACK. >> Jeanine: THE SAD PART ABOUT IT IS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION FLYING PEOPLE INT
