ALONE THE CURRENT FRONT RUNNER FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. LIKE MANY OTHER STATES, COLORADO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PREPARING TO ADMINISTER ITS PRIMARY. A LOT OF THINGS REMAIN UNCLEAR. THIS IS UNCHARTED TERRITORY. ADDS EVEN MORE UNCERTAINTY TO WHAT IS ALREADY SHAPING UP TO BE THE MOST UNCERTAIN ELECTION SEASON IN MODERN HISTORY. JOINING ME NOW IS THE COLORADO, THE TOP ELECTION OFFICIAL IN COLORADO, JENNA GRISWOLD. THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF COLORADO, SHE'S THE CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC ASSOCIATION OF SECRETARIES OF STATE, SHE'S A CHAMPION FOR DEMOCRACY AND A GOOD FRIEND OF OUR SHOW. SECRETARY GREW AS WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS VERY EARLY ON. YOU, LIKE EVERY SECRETARY OF STATE IN THE COUNTRY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING ELECTIONS IN YOUR STATE, WE HAVE THE SAME RESPONSE. IS THAT IT IS NOT LIKELY GOING TO END WITH YOU. IN OTHER WORDS, WHILE ONE COULD, ON PAPER, SO YOU'RE THE FINAL ARBITER OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNEW FULL WELL THAT THIS COULD GO BEFORE THE COURTS, THIS HAS NOW GONE BEFORE THE COURTS TWO TIMES IN COLORADO. IT'S GONE BEFORE THE COURTS IN NEW MEXICO, IT WILL GO BEFORE OTHER COURTS AS WELL. WHERE DO YOU STAND RIGHT NOW AND WHAT HAS BEEN DECIDED? HOW DO YOU MOVE FORWARD IN COLORADO BASED ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED? >> WELL, TWO COURTS HAVE LOOKED AT WHETHER DONALD TRUMP IS DISQUALIFIED AND WHETHER HE ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION. BOTH HAVE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT THAT HE DID ENGAGE AN INSURRECTION. THE COLORADO SUPREME COURT, OF COURSE, HAS DISQUALIFIED HIM FROM THE COLORADO BALLOT. ALI, I AGREE WITH THE COLORADO SUPREME COURT. I HAVE SAID, GOSH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME, DONALD TRUMP HAS INCITED THE INSURRECTION. THERE SHOULD NOT BE A LOOPHOLE FOR INCITING INSURRECTION FOR THE PRESIDENCY. JUST LIKE YOU, WE'LL WAIT TO SEE IF AN APPEAL IS FILED TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT AND WHETHER THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT DECIDES TO INTERVENE IN THE CASE. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUDGE LUTTIG AND LAWRENCE TRIBE HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS DISCUSSION FOR A LONG TIME. THAT WAS WHAT THE COLORADO CASE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT. JUDGE LUTTIG WAS ON THE SHOW YESTERDAY, TAKING EXCEPTION TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON IN THE UNITED STATES TO SAY, THIS WOULD BE UNSATISFYING, TO HAVE DONALD TRUMP DISQUALIFIED FOR THIS LEGAL MATTER. THE INTERPRETATION OF SECTION THROUGH THE 14TH AMENDMENT WOULD BE LESS SATISFYING THAN IF THEY HAD DONALD TRUMP ON THE BALLOT AND HAD PEOPLE NOT ELECT HIM AS PRESIDENT. JUDGE LUTTIG SAID THOSE ARE SEPARATE AND UNRELATED ARGUMENTS. THE LEGAL MATTER NEEDS TO BE PURSUED IS A LEGAL MATTER. >> THAT'S RIGHT. MY JOB IS TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. WHEN THERE IS BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER SOMETHING IS CONSTITUTIONAL OR NOT, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO TO THE COURTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ONLY, AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP TRIED TO DISENFRANCHISE AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHEN HE TRIED TO STEAL THE PRESIDENCY IN 2020. THAT WAS NOT SATISFYING. HE LOST THAT ELECTION. I THINK THE IDEA THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND JUST IGNORE WHAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT 2020 AND THE ATTACKS ON DEMOCRACY AFTERWARDS, IT'S ALSO VERY DANGEROUS. WE KNOW HE'S A THREAT TO THIS COUNTRY, HE'S A THREAT TO VOTING RIGHTS, TO THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. HE IS A THREAT TO THE STABILITY OF THIS NATION. THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE AN ELECTION AND HE LOSES AND ACCEPT THE RESULTS IF HE DOES LOSE, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE VERY LIKELY GOING TO BE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT WE ARE AND IN 2020. >> YOU SAID IT'S DANGEROUS, YOU MEAN THAT FOR DEMOCRACY, BUT AS I MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION, IT IS SPECIFICALLY DANGEROUS, I ONLY READ ONE OF THE THREATS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE JUSTICES OF THE COLORADO SUPREME COURT, THERE ARE MANY, SOME ARE WORSE. WHAT IS IT LIKE? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION? WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE YOU? YOU'VE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THIS SINCE DAY ONE. >> IT'S SCARY TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. YOU KNOW, I WAS THE DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE, I DID NOT -- SIX REPUBLICAN UNAFFILIATED VOTERS CHOSE TO BRING THE CASE. WITHIN THREE WEEKS OF IT BEING FILED, I HAD 64 DEATH THREATS. SINCE THE DECISION, I RECEIVED DOZENS OF DEATH THREATS THAT JUDGES HAVE BEEN SWAMPED WITH DEATH THREATS. WE STAYED IN REPORTING. I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS DONALD TRUMP IS A DANGER TO THIS COUNTRY. IN THIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE WIN AND LOSE COURT CASES, PEOPLE WIN AND LOSE ELECTIONS. WE HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE SYSTEM HAS THE OUTCOMES THAT ARE CORRECT, THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE FAIR, THAT JUSTICES ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE LAW IN COLORADO AND APPLYING IT CORRECTLY THE USE OF VIOLENCE TO TRY TO INTIMIDATE US. IS UNACCEPTABLE IN A DEMOCRACY. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO INTIMIDATE ME. I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S BEEN A REALLY SCARY SITUATION THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING SINCE 2021. WHEN YOU ARE IN THESE POSITIONS, YOU LARGELY FEEL ABANDONED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN MANY STATE GOVERNMENT ACTORS. LIKE YOU'RE ON AN ISLAND. WE ARE GONNA BE PUSHING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT DEMOCRACY REMAINS INTACT AND THAT WE UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE PRACTICALITY OF YOUR JOB RIGHT NOW. THE REPORTING HAS BEEN THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO START DEALING WITH BALLOTS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY STARTING ON JANUARY 5TH. THIS RULING IS STATE UNTIL JANUARY 4TH, PRESUMABLY TO ALLOW DONALD TRUMP AND HIS TEAM TO APPEAL IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO. THEY'VE INDICATED THEY WILL. WHAT PRACTICALLY HAPPENS FOR YOU? DO YOU MOVE AHEAD ON JANUARY 5TH? WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT DO YOU DO? >> SO, WE'LL HAVE, OF COURSE, TWO PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES IN COLORADO, THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY, THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. ALI, IN YOUR INTRO, YOU HAVE SPOTLIGHTED THAT THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THREATENING TO CANCEL THE PRIMARY. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL OPTION FOR THEM. WE WILL HAVE A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN THE STATE OF COLORADO, JUST LIKE NORMAL. COLORADANS OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED TO HAVE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. IN TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATION DATE, WHICH IS ON JANUARY 5TH, THAT'S THE DAY THAT I STATE TO THE COUNTIES, THE CANDIDATES OFFICIALLY ON THE BALLOT, JUST LIKE YOU, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE TO WHETHER THE SUPREME COURT TAKES THE CASE, WHETHER AN APPEAL IS FILED. AS OF NOW, NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED. DONALD TRUMP, AS OF NOW, IS DISQUALIFIED FROM THE COLORADO BALLOT. >> JANET GRISWOLD, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE TOO MANY TIMES, YEARS AGO I HAD NEVER SPOKEN TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE AT ALL IN THE COUNTRY. I PROBABLY COULDN'T NAME MOST OF THEM. NOW, I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW SO
