‘RIVAL ROYALS?’ Prince Harry & Meghan Markle under attack as they make moves | Palace Confidential

will new photos of the Princess of Wales finally silence her doubters is the king getting caught up in the new Cold War will Donald Trump actually kicked Prince Harry out of America and Megan marle a narcissist we'll answer all those and more in a great new episode of Palace confidential hello and welcome to Palace confidential I'm Joe Elvin and back this week to talk about the big Royal stories is the daily mail's editor at large Richard k and diary editor Richard Eden welcome to you both now we've seen a fantastic rise in our number of subscribers recently so if you're not already do please press that subscribe button and join the 221,000 not that we like to mention it who are signed up and get notifications whenever we put out a new episode right let's kick things off now with Prince Harry and Megan marle Richard Eden Richard the first Richard thei start with you uh Richard Eden the were downgraded by the royal family this week what on Earth does that mean what can you tell us yes this is all a bit unfortunate it's the um they're quite slow to do these things but it's the upgrading of the um official Royal website and obviously um Prince Harry as king Charles's younger son would have a very prominent position but he dropped down um after quitting Royal duties um and now it's the next stage of of their humiliation they've been pushed um pretty much down to the bottom just given a joint entry of um Duke and Duchess of Sussex and it depends how you look at it actually because on my mobile phone they at least they were still above prince Andrew so he was there just below them um but if you look on your or certainly on my um PC he was um next to prince Andrew so they're they right at the bottom but they're just a sort of embarrassment now kind of hanging on but obviously it highlights the very strange position they're in where you know it's the king's youngest son is now no longer part of the firm so is it the royal family you know or is it the firm it's it's a tricky one I I just would like real clarification for anyone who doesn't understand is this simply about the line of succession or is it something else Richie k no it's not to do with the line of succession I mean Harry remains very much uh quite high up in the line of succession you'll forgive me I can't remember what number he is think people call him f on T yeah number five he comes after Prince Louie right um so he he they can't take that away from him but Richard is absolutely right I mean he has been downgraded um as we know the palace never do things in haste and people have been clamoring for this change for months if not years so what's taken so long uh they don't do things in haste they they take their time they do it when they think they can slip it out and it won't get noticed the only trouble is right now anything the palace does gets noticed and and these things get interpreted in certain C ways but but basically Richard's right um Harry no longer a working Royal his his wife not not working at all as a working Royal they've slipped right down the list of of those prominent royal family members who actually go out and do good deeds on our behalf now I'm sure that somewhere in the back of their minds in Mont they were expecting this but it must sting I just think you know if you think who's above them you've got you know cousins of um Queen Elizabeth you know Duke of Gloucester um Duke of Kent um you know and they're above the son of the king so it is it's a strange situation but that's what happens when you quit Royal duties um you know yes he's still in the line of succession he's still a counselor of state but he's no longer taking part so the idea is someone who looks at the royal family website would be who are they what do they do they want to find out more information they don't want to find out about um you know celebrities in California well and in potentially further strife for Harry uh Richard Eden We've joked before about President Trump if he wins the next us election saying that he about deporting Prince Harry but that Donald's been talking about the Duke again and he's been saying American authorities would take quite unquote appropriate action I mean what is that I don't know it's just me I do get the impression that Donald Trump enjoys um sort of playing with um Harry and Megan I think you got to look back at the history that um before she um got to know Prince Harry Megan was very um rude about Donald Trump she talked about called him a misogynist and this sort of thing and he has a long memory for these type of um slurs and and so now he's sort of getting his own back teasing um and what he's referring to is the ongoing um court case which we've discussed with this think tank in America the Heritage Foundation trying to find out about Harry's immigration status yes and what he said about his past drug use on his application um and another big theme for Donald Trump his immigration and you know he he feels there shouldn't be double standards for um famous people and and less famous so he's doing he's throwing his weight around but we'll we'll wait and see what you know if and when he's president Richard K whether or not Trump is elected we're once again faced with this you know really unedifying Prospect of a diplomatic incident involving a member of the royal family no matter where they are on the website picking order indeed I mean there is a big difference between Donald the candidate and Donald the president and once he's in the white house um he'll be smothered by um all those sort of this the American equivalent of the Civil Service who won't want him to cause ripples um with America's oldest Ally and in particular with their first family I mean one thing we have learned about Trump he's rather in awe of the British royal family um he seems to have made his peace for example with the king who in the past he's had big differences of opinion with over Environmental Policy um but yeah I think Richard's absolutely right I think he loves this idea of toying with um with Harry and Megan and it probably does go back to all those years ago when when Megan said those disobliging things about him are you suggesting that King Charles might ask the Americans if they can keep Prince H now that's a possibility that that that might be an interesting diplomat incident yeah it's like Donald I'll do you a deal well on to Megan now and after much speculation as to what her new Lifestyle brand would be we now know it will be called American Riviera Orchard and that it is a cookery and Lifestyle brand Richard K you've signed up already I presume naturally I mean what we have here is a sort of a a US version of the Lakeland catalog in Britain or perhaps oh I love the Lakeland catalog okay well I Megan is tapping into that uh into that Vibe um I think in America she's more likely tapping into the Martha Stewart Vibe um she's sort of the the accomplished hostess with the mostess um will will it work who knows I mean Megan seems to have um turned her back on all manner of uh things as she seeks to find some sort of validation what she can do she she's no longer acting she doesn't seem to be producing very much she's certainly not making anything as far as we know in terms of movies and and um documentaries at the moment um lifestyle choices for middle class Americans seems uh quite an interesting Niche whether it works or not I don't know but the early reports were that the the the online response to it was massive I mean people were were hugely interested well I am very curious and I'm also curious about I kind of think fashion yes I know Megan for politics activism cooking can she cook um I think sort of cookery lifestyle was very much part of the blog she used to write the tig which was a real um love of Megan's that she she was I think told to leave behind when she joined the royal family and I think that always wrinkled with her so this is an opportunity to to bring that kind of Lifestyle blog back to life interesting and just days after this Emer there was a royal biographer who calls to S when she suggested that Megan Markle had quote unquote narcissistic and controlling qualities well strong words yes the these this was a quote from um very distinguished um biographer and Royal biographer Sally bed Smith an American Author um and she she used those quotes in the context of a comparison um with um Duchess of Windsor oh that Old Chestnut um you know and yes it's it's not a new comparison it's been made by lots of people but she used very strong language and it's that um obviously comparison with another American um divorce and and the relation she was talking about the relation between Harry and William and that similar relationship between um Edward VII and the future um George I 6 interesting now Richard K as we alluded to that Harry might love this comparison between Megan and his mother Princess Diana but it it does seem that everybody else brings Wallace Simpson to mind absolutely and uh it's not a nice uh comparison to have and Wallace Simpson pushed around the Duke of Windsor um he was very much A reduced figure in her company um and of course there was as Richard says that whole relationship between Edward and Mrs Simpson and the rest of the royal family they lived in Virtual Exile after he abandoned the throne um and that almost certainly is the future Prospect for the sussexes um you know it's it's interesting to to look at the relationship between the ex King Edward VII and the Future King George I 6 and the relationship as it's turned out between Prince William and Prince Harry two very close Brothers one younger brother who looked up to an older brother throughout his childhood and then they brutally were separated because of one man's love for another woman and in both cases American divorce and it's a very tempting and and amusing if you like analogy to take and I can understand why people have come up it just feels like sometimes when you talk about the history of that it's like you you can't be a human being and a royal it's very challenging lend yeah I mean the the modern royal family of course have been trying to change themselves and and make themselves much more approachable much more relatable is the is the buzz word they like to use and and that me means stressing their ordinariness and the trouble is the more ordinary they come across the less interested we are in them because that's the whole point about royalty it's the ique the magical side of royalty that people are interested in I think I'll just carry on being a normal uh Richard Eden now you broke a story about Prince Harry going on holiday with a gang of new Pals what do we know as a social diarist I just love this sort of um finding out more about these friendships you know the longer that Harry and Megan are in California they're they're making friends and sort of monitoring how these things are going and some of these friendships are very interesting so um last week I got wind that Harry was on a skiing holiday um Megan wasn't with him she'd had a previous skiing holiday with some of her girlfriends and that the one of the friends that Harry was with was Corey Gamble who's business executive and he just happens to be the other half of another powerful woman is um Chris Jenna you know the matriarch of the Kardashians Clan the manager who's helped make millions for her or even billions perhaps for her daughters the real American royal family yeah so this is an in ining new friendship between Harry and Corey so we'll see where that goes and they weren't on their own there were others there there was um Whitney wolf who's another very interesting character who's become a billionaire I think through um her dating site um bumble oh yes of course which um you know could be useful in the future if Harry ever finds himself a single man again sorry I shouldn't say that just cynicism today sorry I shouldn't say things like that goodness um and then her husband Michael herd now very nice man he is I'm sure but he also has the added benefit of having a private jet so he's the man who is a Texan Oiler and he flew Harry and Megan um to watch their neighbor Katy Perry perform in Las Vegas it's just so convenient private flight and so he's probably um flowing them over so when we saw Prince Harry um at the Diana trust Awards on a video screen he was talking for ages to the um the the guess at this awards ceremony and it wasn't from his um mansion in monito but it was from a a ski chalet in Aspen where he was on this skiing holiday so um yeah intriguing new friends wow so Richard Kay in know to the Royals we were just saying appearance is everything it's everything for Harry and Megan is is this the kind of image that you think is good for the sussexes bad for the sussexes I think for um Mainline uh royal family supporters it's um bad for them frankly I mean they have crossed the Rubicon from royalty into mere celebrity I mean that's really what they are they they are Hollywood celebrities with that extra Factor if you like because of their titles um I I'm not sure in the long-term where it's going to lead them the problem they're going to have in America as we've discussed many times on the show is um America has a sort of a short-term uh system if you like uh they're enthral to celebrity for a while but after a while if a celebrity is a bit of a one-trick pony and they've only got one story to tell in Harry's case possibly that's true then they'll move on to the next new thing I should say there was a very unpleasant incident um at the end because Chris Jenna's daughter Kim Kardashian you Tred to not to make your mouth go upwards when you say there was a really unpleasant incident carry on well as you know Kim Kardashian has literally hundreds of um millions of followers on Instagram and she she posts um something sort of pop at um the Princess of Wales saying I looking out for Kate or searching for Kate or something like this and like you could argue it was a joke it's a bit of fun but it was just one of those things that added yet more fuel to the fire of the conspiracy theories and you know we are talking about a woman um recovering from serious surgery people thinking it's funny it's a bit odd yeah it's pretty unpleasant uh do you think this is we were talking a few a few weeks ago about Prince Harry being at some event and being photographed with like a sort of like a peripheral German Royal do you feel like do you think that Harry's going to become that weird random Prince if he's not careful rather than well in a way we've got um so everything we've seen over the past week um with Megan and her big project because that this is very much her Harry's not involved as far as we know so you know he does seem like the plus one you know a bit like Cory gamble he's the plus one the powerful I think he's going to end up like Prince Phillip's German relatives who are not talked about very much but come along to a few Royal events and their obscure uh German royalty where they rather obscure titles that could well be Harry's future now Richard Eden you've written in your newsletter that Harry and Megan are acting more like a rival us royal family well why have you said that well I just think because um we've started to see har and Megan's plans taking shape over the past week and the lifestyle website is a big part of that I mean you know let's look back what was the the real reason that Harry Megan quit the royal family was money it was about how to make money and this project well they said it was about privacy um yeah they've said lots of different things there were different theories but um money was a big motivation and that's what Queen Elizabeth couldn't tolerate and what this website is about it's commercial it's the hopes are it's going to be a big big project and will make make Megan another Fortune you know um so that that's part of it taking shape but also what we're going to see so I'm told are events over the coming days and weeks which will be um you know them visiting places hospitals perhaps sort of thing to give a very Regal image and and this is all happening remember while um you know King Charles has not seen very much and while Catherine the most glamorous remember the royal family as out of action I don't think that's a coincidence no and you've written about a royal photo shoot this week as well yes this is a photo shoot that Megan's organized at their Montesito home interestingly with her children um Prince Archie and Princess lilbert um she's had a an old friend professional um photographer Jake Rosenberg come and take photos and perhaps it is significant given the recent um Photoshop r that it was a um professional photographer who came in rather than asking Prince Harry to take the photos well they're not going to be news photographs are they they're going to be sort of like magazine Styles so probably you can you can mess around a bit with the lighting or whatever on those yeah and what Megan's friends have said is that um they're just for family use or whatever they're not for her project but um we we'll we'll see about that time will tell well before we get to your comments a question for you the viewer would you be interested in seeing us live either online or in person getting within stroking distance of Mr Richard Eden how do you feel about that that's first I've heard yeah well we are looking to see if this is possible and if enough people are interested we'll put a link so that you can share your thoughts in the description below now you've been commenting a lot on our recent videos and here are some of your thoughts from last Thursday's show Linda Johnston writes that she totally agrees with Richard Eden about Harry adding that they were disgraceful to the royal family why do they think the British people will welcome them back sticking with the sussexes Sharon albanes has this to say they have a UK publist for her new lifestyle website let's watch it Crash and Burn like everything else they've done oh gosh that is Harsh uh JM has commented on the fact that Princess Anne didn't appear to curtsy to Queen Camila at the Commonwealth day service if Princess Anne had seen the queen earlier that day she would have curtsied then once you have curtsied to the queen there is no need to do it again in the same day that's that cleared up now don't miss our regular princess an section later in the show meanwhile I think I can say that Sandy B spoke for pretty much all of the viewers who when she wrote about this for the Princess of Wales saying I stand with Katherine meanwhile British River praised Rebecca's clarification over that photo Ral thank you Rebecca for explaining that it was issued as a news photo I have been thinking all this time that they just put it up on their social media and been amazed at the reaction but if the Palace issued it as a news photo that would definitely make a difference thank you for the clarification now let's get back to the panel and after a difficult couple of weeks for the Princess of Wales there was more unwelcome news for Katherine as it emerged that the hospital where she was treated recently is investigating claims that staff tried to access her medical notes while she was there Richard Kay tell us what we know so far well the latest we have is that the hospital are investigating the activities of three members of Staff um we don't know what they did whether they accessed Katherine's medical notes or not but clearly some attempt was made to try and find out what treatment she had what she was undergoing in in the hospital and this has major implications obviously for the hospital concern the London Clinic which the royal family have used for many many years I mean it's it's also the go-to hospital for the rich and Powerful from all all around the world um and this could heavily undermine their reput ation but for for Catherine it must just seem like yet another setback um you know she's gone through the storm over the manipulated photograph uh and all the uh worldwide conspiracy theories about her health and well-being um which has just sort of been being fueled if you like by incidents such as this this does not help uh the situation we should at this point give the right of reply to the London Clinic who had this to say we we have systems in place to monitor management of patient information and in the case of any breach all appropriate investigatory Regulatory and disciplinary steps will be taken now Richard Eden this story is perhaps a reminder of just how intense the level of scrutiny is that that she faces at the moment if you can't trust your medical staff oh my goodness I mean if I had a pound for every person who'd ask me what's the real story with Princess yeah I could buy a palace myself you know so in a way it doesn't surprise me at all that um people may have been prying a bit or if they know that those records are there on a computer system you know they're they're having a look that sort of thing so I think the key thing though is that you know we have to be very sensitive about it because remember that there was a tragedy in the past you know on one occasion when Katherine was in hospital while pregnant with Prince George um there was that prank call from Australia and it led to a nurse who was on the reception putting um these pranksters through to someone who knew her details giving away personal information and then the nurse who'd put her through ended up killing herself it was just so unbearable you know the last thing we'd want is any sort of Witch Hunt or anything who knows what's gone on I mean the facts will emerge I'm sure and I think I'm sure everyone's taking it seriously without wanting to spark any sort of Witch Hunt indeed now Richard K also this week we saw Katherine again in photos when she was out shopping with Prince William at a farm shop and I think a lot of people will hope this draws a line under the hysteria and conspiracy theories they may however however indeed they may hope hope so Joe but all the indications are that those people whose minds are made up this was not the real Catherine it was a body double didn't look like her etc etc will not be uh consoled by this I mean people want to believe what they want to believe I mean um it's tragic really and uh really for for the Royals as it and it tells us an awful lot about the The Human Condition um what we choose to believe and why um I think there were very good reasons for why this film was allowed to be published because ordinarily um footage such as this would be deemed to be private but clearly the Royals uh realized very quickly that this would be a very good method of sort of combating some of this uh online uh Mania um we we all hope it will uh and we hope that this is the first sign or of many we're going to get in the next few weeks there's been speculation that we might see Katherine at the Easter Parade which is the uh traditional Royal service at Windsor Castle on Easter Sunday and the Royals usually parade down from the castle to St George's Chapel will she be among them I we don't know yet but it would be great if she was yeah now Richard Eden the mainstream media has been criticized for how they've covered this story but it's all a bit beyond the traditional press Now isn't it oh my goodness there is this kind of wild um difference at the moment between mainstream Publications which you know we have all these rules we've got laws we've got privacy um we've got codes of conduct and then there's the worldwide web which is you know real wild west some of the things I've been sent are nuts yeah just nuts I know and the number of calls I've had with um you know very conspiracy theories and all sorts and a a lot of it then it does raise questions you know about how the palace has handled it doesn't it frankly I mean what You Know Rich is just saying about you know if the palace has acquiesced in some way in the publication of these photographs then obviously you think well why didn't why didn't they put some out earlier of their own you know it's I think as as Rebecca English has said on on this program before it was perhaps a bit naive to think that um Catherine one of the most photographed talks about women in the world could just withdraw for three months from public life and that that wouldn't be filled um that vacuum wouldn't be filled with with other stuff and it's because it's not just the British press it's that worldwide interest yeah um and it's it is a strange kind of dangerous situation you and I have discussed we've had texts from friends all over the world asking us about it yeah it's crazy crazy it really is yeah but now inevitably after the uh the Mother's Day photo rout there's been lots of people questioning various photos of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and now a photo of them has been killed what can you tell us yes this is the first picture of featuring um Prince Harry and Megan so perhaps that's an interesting development I don't know but this is the official portrait that was published after Prince Archie's um christening um you know lovely photograph um but it was it's been withdrawn by one of the biggest agencies gy um but they haven't they haven't really gone into details as to why they've just said because of suspected manipulation and we should say that the photographer who took it completely denied this he said you know no he didn't do anything that's nonsense what I don't understand it's it's not like it's not anything stalinesque you I mean it's like they might have changed the color here or there on a sofa but that photo happened so yeah I mean the problem is we just don't know do we and the same as um Prince Williams photograph because no one's actually spelled out we've had our suspicions and we've had experts analyze it but no one spell that so in all likelihood it was a bit of touching up to improve things um and with Harry and Megan and actually um you know who knows but um I think it just reflects the fact that um lots of agencies of people are going through past photographs now I mean what we can say for certain is that um my goodness the Royal household will be more careful in the future when they're issuing these pictures I think this road is a very dangerous one for a lot of fashion magazines to be dragged down believe me you would know yeah so Richard K Rebecca can't be with us sadly this week but she broke the story about the promising news that the king is hoping to take part in trooping the color this year now tell us about the story but firstly for those who don't know can you explain trooping the color very briefly trooping the color or otherwise known as the the sovereign's birth parade is um a big event held in central London um just a spit from bakim Palace and um the household division which are those magnificent uh bare skinn guards that uh visitors to the UK see outside buan Palace and St James's Palace um they are all professional fighting soldiers but they have a a ceremonial arm to their Duty as well and every summer they perform this meticulous operation called trooping the color where one of the regiments is chosen to troop its colors the colors are the flags that they've won from Battle Hors going back to the before the English Civil War um and it's it's done with great skill and great Panache it's me memorable for the colors the sound the mass bands of the guards are playing and the crunch of the of the guardsman's boots on the gravel of the parade ground and it's televised and The Sovereign the king in this case is always the main focus and the main feature the the the colors are presented to The Sovereign and what Rebecca reported was that Charles has determined if he can to be there but it's unlikely he'll be on Horseback he's much more likely uh to be in an open Carriage which of course is what we got quite used to with the late Queen Elizabeth and hopefully we'll see Katherine there as well well hopefully yes I mean it always culminates with a fly past and the whole royal family or the working royal family now crowd onto that famous balcony at bucki and Palace and they look a loft as um British Jets and the famous Battle of Britain flight fly overhead and there's a lot of um room to swing a cat on that balcony now though isn't there oh please this year invite them all that's what I've always said I want to say I love it when you see that um you know packed balcony with some of the junior roles as well so invite them all well you can stick around later for some fantastic pictures we have of Ching the color for you but before then to a less edifying story about the King Richard Kay Russian media prematurely killing him off this week yes indeed um more Mischief from the Kremlin they issued a statement on some Patrick's Day of all days I think designed to sort of undermine Britain but they issued a a statement on what looked like buck and Palace notep paper that the king had passed away um the previous day um immediately the British Embassy in keev in in Ukraine issued a statement denying it saying it was completely untrue um but it it just is a another reminder of what the royal family are up against it's not just the wild west as Richard called it of the worldwide web it's these um governments with whom Britain and the West have have serious disagreements who are contributing to the Mischief God it's just Madness but anyway time for the princess an section of the show we know you love it and this week marks the 50th anniversary of the attempted kidnapping of Prince an in which a policeman was shot three times but survived while trying to save her from the attempt and an is said to have responded to the threat of being kidnapped with not bloody likely now in the end a former boxer who happened to be passing helped the princess Escape now Richard Kay we sort of like think kind of fondly about that time with a bit bit of Mischief but you know it was a very serious incident and it changed how free the Royals would be thereafter absolutely it was deadly intent I mean gunshots were fired into the car I mean looking back at the pictures which have been published this week of uh the Royal Rolls-Royce riddled with bullets broken glass everywhere um Jim Beaton who later went on and had a very distinguished career as her majesty Queen Elizabeth's uh private detective survived um being riddled with bullets um I saw years later his bloodshot shirt which was donated to Scotland yard's black Museum of famous crimes go there for posterity um but it was a reminder of how um open if you like the royal family were in those days with dealing with the public now we use that old cliche a ring of Steel which surrounds the Royals and that really was the precursor to why the Royals now have um Round the Clock uh protection I mean it should be pointed out that Beaton did have a gun and I think his gun jammed as well as the uh Gunman's um but things have have improved a lot since then Ian L neither Anne nor her then husband Mark Phillips were hurt at all and and in the look on their faces was one of of great shock but of course you that you had that wonderful remark which sounds so very typical of Princess Anne and it's probably just colored why she's so stoic and matter of fact and no nonsense about everything to this day you do feel once you've survived that you can survive anything now yeah right anyway well discussing trooping the color got us thinking back to some of our favorite moments from the events over the years so so here are some of the most fun pictures of the Royal children watching the event [Music] [Applause] [Music] enjoy [Music] [Laughter] [Music] a [Music] d [Music] well we do look forward to seeing what Beautiful Moments this year's trooping brings now a reminder that if you want to give your thoughts on seeing us live Richard actual Eden live click the link on the screen now or in the description below my thanks to the Richards and to you for watching and we'll see you next week bye-bye

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