HOWARD: CAMPUS VIOLENCE CONTINUES TO SPREAD WITH POLICE MAKING ARRESTS AT GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY HERE AND ALSO AT UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WHERE THEY BROKE UP AN ENCAMPMENT AFTER A WEEKLONG IMPASSE. PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT THE PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTS WITH CNN'S ERIN BURNETT, HIS FIRST INTERVIEW WITH A SERIOUS JOURNALIST IN MONTHS, AND SHE PRESSED HIM ON SEVERAL ISSUES, OTHER ISSUES INCLUDING THE ECONOMY AND RISING PRICES. >> IT'S ALSO TRUE RIGHT NOW, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT VOTERS BY A WIDE MARGIN TRUST TRUMP MORE ON THE ECONOMY. ARE YOU WORRIED THAT YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO TURN THAT AROUND? >> WE'VE ALREADY TURNED IT AROUND. LOOK, LOOK AT THE MICHIGAN SURVEY. 65% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ECONOMICALLY. HOWARD: GUY BENSON, BIDEN, IN MY VIEW, HIT THE RIGHT NOTES IN THE HOLOCAUST SPEECH, BUT GIVEN THE SPREAD OF VIOLENCE AND ARRESTS AND HOW MUCH HAD GONE ON BEFORE HE GAVE THAT SPEECH, WAS IT A LITTLE TOO LATE? >> YES, BECAUSE HE HAD A ALREADY BOTH SIDESSED THIS ISSUE. SOME OF THESE HORRIBLE PRO-HAMAS HATEALLIES HE SAID, OH, I CONDEMN IT, BUT I ALSO CONDEMN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF THE PALESTINIANS, PARAPHRASING, WHICH WAS AN AWFUL, AWFUL ANSWER. THERE'S ALSO REPORTING, HOWIE, AS I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN, THAT HE GAVE THE HOLOCAUST SPEECH AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM, AND HIS TEAM WAS TRYING TO KEEP UNDER WRAPS IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THAT SPEECH HIS DECISION TO WITHHOLD MILITARY AID FROM THE ISRAELIS AND THEN CONFIRM THAT AFTER THE SPEECH SO IT DIDN'T STEP ON WHAT ELEMENT OF HIS PANDERING BEFORE HE PANDERED TO THE OTHER SIDE. SO THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTREMELY UNIMPRESSIVE PERFORMANCE BY THIS PRESIDENT, ONE THAT I THINK HAS HAS SHOWN A GREAT DEAL OF MORAL COWARDICE. HOWARD: WE'LL COVER THAT IN THE NEXT SEGMENT, BUT WILLS SUCH A THING AS DIPLOMACY BEHIND THE SCENES WHETHER YOU WANT TO GO PUBLIC WITH IT OR NOT. LUCY, THE THREE CABLE NEWS NETWORKS ALL BROKE AWAY FROM STORMY DANIELS' TESTIMONY, WHICH WAS KIND OF AT A SENSITIVE POINT, TO TAKE THE SPEECH WITHOUT THE SEEMMY DETAILS BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE JUST LOOKED HORRIBLE. BUT IT STILL MADE ALMOST NO NEWS COMPARED TO THE TRUMP TRIAL. >> THE WELL, I THINK THAT A SPEECH THAT IS TIED TO A REMEMBRANCE EVENT, IT IS NOT LASCIVIOUS, IT'S NOT GOING TO SORT OF DRIVE CAN RATINGS IN THE WAY THAT WHAT POSITION THE PRESIDENT CHOSE WITH STORMY DANIELS WILL AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST SEGMENT FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FACING IS THEY CONTINUE, I THINK, TO BE DISTRACTED BY THE PROTESTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON CAMPUS AND SOME OF THE MOST EXTREME ELEMENT9S AND FORGETTING OUT WHERE THEIR BASE IS IN ALL OF THIS. LOOK, IT'S AP AN ELECTION YEAR, AND THAT'S PRETTY RELEVANT. ING THERE WAS A POLL LAST WEEK THAT SHOWED REALLY ONLY ABOUT11% OF VOTERS THINK THAT BIDEN IS NOT PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH ACROSS A RANGE OF ISSUES AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS ONE THAT'S VERY FRONT AND CENTER. AND SO I THINK THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE SEE BIDEN FACING IS HE IS TRYING TO SHOW THAT HE'S BEING ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE, THAT HE IS SHOWING THAT HE, YOU KNOW, IS WITH THE CAMPUS PROTESTERS, THAT HE'S, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MEET WHAT HE THINKS IS HIS BASE WHERE IT IS, BUT THAT, IN FACT, IS NOT HIS BASE, RIGHT? IF MOST OF HIS BASE WANTS TO SEE THE PRESIDENT STRIKE A MODERATE POSITION ON THIS ISSUE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID GET IN THAT SPEECH. HOWARD: YEAH. BUT BESIDES TALKING ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST, HE TALKED ABOUT THE CAMPUS PROTESTS. IN ANY EVENT, I WAS GLAD TO SEE ERIN BURNETT PRESS BIDEN. HE GAVE SYSTEM OF HIS STANDARD ANSWERS, BUT SHOULD SHE HAVE ASKED, AND I KNOW YOU ONLY GET A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT THE BORDER OR FORGIVING STUDENT DEBT OR HUNTER BIDEN'S UPCOMING TRIAL WHICH MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE DIFFICULT SUMMITS FOR THE PRESIDENT? IF. >> YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HEARD QUESTIONS ON ALL THREE OF THOSE. I UNDERSTAND SHE ONLY HAD SO MUCH TIME. HE DOESN'T DO THIS MUCH, AS YOU'VE ADDRESSED AND WHICH I THINK IS NOT A GREAT LOOK FOR HIM. THIS WAS A SIT-DOWN AND, FRANKLY, SHE PRESSED HIM ON THE ECONOMY, HE GAVE STANDARD ANSWERS. HIS E STANDARD ANSWERS ARE BAD. FOR HIM TO SAY WE'VE ALREADY TURNED IT AROUND? IF THAT IS NOT TRUE IN TERMS OF THE POLLING. HE'S 202 POINTS UPSIDE WATER ON THE ECONOMY, HE'S TRAILING BY DOUBLE DIGITS TO DONALD TRUMP, AND EVEN DAVID AXLEROD, OBAMA'S GURU, HAS PUBLICLY COMPLAINEDDED AND SORT OF GRIPED SAYING YOU'VE GOT TO STOP WITH THE FOOTBALL SPIKING, THE TRIUMPHAL IFISM ON THE ECONOMY. IT'S INSULTING -- INSULTING TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S THE NOT HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE LIVING OR FEELING, AND YET HE'S KIND OF ADDICTED TO THAT TALKING POINT, HE'S PARALYZED IN IT, AND I GUESS HE'S GOING TO TRY TO ROLL WITH THAT INTO NOVEMBER. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT A PLAYS FOR HIM. HOWARD: YEAH. BIDEN SPENDS A LOT OF TIME ABOUT THE LAWS HE'S PASSED AND HOW IT'S BENEFITING THIS OR THAT COMMUNITY WHICH IS PERFECT LEGITIMATE, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF NEWS. THIS CNN INTERVIEW WAS DONE ON A WEDNESDAY WHICH IS ONE DAY THERE'S NO TRUMP TRIAL, TRY TO GET MORE ATTENTION. FIRST SERIOUS SIT-DOWN, I SHOULD SAY, WITH A SERIOUS JOURNALIST IN A LONG TIME. JEN PSAKI, FORMER PRESS SECRETARY ON HER MSNBC SHOW, SAID IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO DO HOWARD STERN AND "THE VIEW" THAN HOLDING A PRESS CONFERENCE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM DOING A SOFTER SHOW, BUT HE HASN'T DONE A PRESS CONFERENCE FOREVER. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT A BIDEN'S TEAM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE SHOW BEFORE, BIDEN'S TEAM CONTINUES TO THINK, I THINK, THAT THEY'RE SO AFRAID OF THE CRITICISM HE WILL GET IF THEY JUST LET HIM LOOSE THAT THEY HOLD HIM REALLY TIGHT, RIGHT? SO THEY DON'T PUT HIM OUT THERE, AND IT REINFORCES, BY ACCIDENT, IT REINFORCES THE NARRATIVE THAT HE DOESN'T, IS NOT WILLING TO DO MEDIA, NOT ABLE TO DO MEDIA, YOU KNOW, NOT UP TO IT. AND THEY HAVE GOT TO GET OVER THAT ESPECIALLY BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO GET THEM. AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO GET TIGHTER ON SOME OF THESE TALKING POINTS. THE ECONOMY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT. EVEN IF THE ECONOMY WERE THE BEST ECONOMY -- HOWARD: GOTTA GO. >> OKAY, KEEP GOING. HOWARD: HE STILL NEEDS TO CAMPAIGN ON OTHER THINGS. >> YOU HAVE TO FEEL PEOPLE'S PAIN. HOWARD: LOOK, HE'S WELCOME ON THE SHOW. I HOPE THIS IS A TURNING POINT AND HE'S GOING TO DO MORE INTERVIEWS, BUT WE SHALL SEE. THANKS SO MUCH, LUCY CALDWELL, GUY BENSON. >>> UP NEXT, MEDIA MISTAKES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND A LEAK PROMPTS BOTH CANDIDATES TO
