‘Hideous’: Michael Cohen describes the length Trump would go for money

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>> MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS MOVING FULL SPEED AHEAD IN A CASE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. MICHAEL COHEN CONFIRMED WITH ME ON FRIDAY THAT HE MET WITH PROSECUTORS FROM THE D.A.'S OFFICE FOR MORE THAN SIX HOURS THIS WEEK. THE CASE IS SET TO BEGIN ON MARCH 25TH, AND WILL BE TRUMP'S FIRST CRIMINAL TRIAL TO GET UNDERWAY. JOINING US NOW, FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO DONALD TRUMP, MICHAEL COHEN. HE IS THE HOST OF THE ANALYTICAL BEATDOWN PODCAST, AND AUTHOR OF REVENGE, THE DONALD TRUMP WEAPONIZED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AGAINST HIS CRITICS. >> THAT IS THE TITLE RIGHT THERE, HONEY. MICHAEL COHEN, IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. OKAY. YOU HAD A LONG MEETING WITH THE PROSECUTORS. WHAT DID YOU DISCUSS? WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE UPCOMING TRIAL, WHY WAS THE MEETING TO, LONG WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A LOT OF REVIEW THIS GOING INTO THIS. I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING MORE ABOUT TRUMP'S NEWEST VENTURE. OF COURSE, THOSE HIDEOUS LOOKING SNEAKERS THAT HE IS TOP AIDE IN ORDER TO RAISE MONEY. YOU KNOW, AT ABOUT 4:00 THIS MORNING, I CAME UP WITH AN ENTIRE -- I DECIDED THE NEXT CHAPTER OF MY LIFE, I WANT TO BE LIKE MINUTEMEN, I WANT TO GO INTO ADVERTISING. DONALD TRUMP ACTUALLY BELIEVES HE'S THE COMBINATION OF MICHAEL JORDAN, KANYE, OFF-WHITE. ALL SMASHED INTO ONE. GRIFTER, RIGHT? JUST SEE HERE, FROM ME FIRST, THE HAIR FILLINGS. I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S THE RIGHT DAY BEFORE IT. >> I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS HOW HE MADE A LOT OF HIS MONEY. THE MERCHANDIZING, MICHAEL, IS NOT A SURPRISE. WE KNOW HE IS CASH-STRAPPED. WE KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE. HE CAN SELL OUT ASSETS AND PROPERTIES. HOW MUCH MONEY CAN HE ACTUALLY MAKE MERCHANDISE IN HIS NAME? GIVE US A SENSE. >> IF YOU LOOK TO SEE WHAT KANYE HAS THAT, I MEAN, HE MADE BILLIONS. MICHAEL JORDAN, MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I GUESS SOMEBODY IMPRESSED UPON TRUMP THAT HE TOO COULD MAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE SNEAKERS. AND, FACT I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, HE SHOULD ACTUALLY GO WITH SOMETHING MORE THEN HE USES. WE ALL KNOW TRUMP DOESN'T PLAY BASKETBALL, IT SHOULDN'T BE IN SNEAKERS. MORE LIKE ADULT DIAPERS OR SOMETHING. HE SHOULD BE AND THAT SORT OF SEVERE, AS OPPOSED TO HAWKING SEEKERS. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SECOND POINT THAT GOES TO THIS AS WELL. WE SHOULD TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. YOU HAVE THE HEAD OF ONE OF OUR TWO MAJOR PARTIES THAT IS FINANCIALLY CASH STRAPPED. >> SIMONE IS MAKING THIS POINT. >> WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HIM AS A POTENTIAL PRESIDENTS, BECAUSE HE IS FOR SALE. HE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE HOW HE'S GOING TO RAISE 500 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. >> THE SAUDIS, THE RUSSIANS, YES. THE SAUDIS, THE RUSSIANS, LIKE, HE IS OPEN TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE TAP KEEPS MOVING. >> HE'S COMPROMISED, YES. >> LET'S STICK WITH THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT. HOW DOES THAT THEN PLAY ITSELF OUT IN THIS CAMPAIGN? WE SEE THE SETUP PLAY WITH THE RNC, TAKING CONTROL OF THAT, LARGELY, FOR THE PURPOSES OF USING THOSE RESOURCES TO BEGIN TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT. WHETHER HE'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR NOT, I THINK THE LESSON THAT I'VE LEARNED AT LEAST, FROM WHAT WE'VE SAW IN MAR-A-LAGO, IS THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL HAVE, HE MAY NOT HAVE THE PHYSICAL PAPERS HE CAN SELL, BUT HE KNOWS STUFF THAT, FROM HIS TIME IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HE STILL, TO SOME DEGREE, IS, AS A FORMER PRESIDENT, GETTING INFORMATION THAT A PRESIDENT, A FORMER PRESIDENT WOULD GET. HOW DO YOU SEE HIM UTILIZING THESE ASSETS? THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE FOR HIM. TO SORT OF GET TO THAT AND GAME OF MAKING THESE PAYMENTS, AND REESTABLISHING HIS MARCH TOWARDS REGAINING THOSE BILLIONS. YOU KNOW, THE STICKERS NOTWITHSTANDING. >> ANYWAY THAT HE CAN. MIKE, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONLINE AND OFFLINE, AND I'VE SAID THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEARS THAT I HAVE, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE ON ALL 91 CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT AGAINST HIM IN THE FOUR CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEARS I HAVE ABOUT HAVING DONALD TRUMP BEHIND BARS IS THAT HE WOULD SELL FOR A BOOK OF STAMPS. HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT AMERICA. I SAY THIS NOT TO BE HYPERBOLIC, I SAY THIS AS FACT. KNOWING HIM FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE KNOWN HIM, HE WILL SELL THAT INFORMATION TO ANYONE BECAUSE HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIMSELF. IT'S SIMPLE. >> I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS SO SHOCKING TO ME THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS JUST BEEN ZERO CONSEQUENCES UP UNTIL THIS YEAR, OR LATE LAST YEAR THIS YEAR. THE HUSH MONEY, AS WE'VE TALKED, ABOUT IS GETTING STARTED. OBVIOUSLY HE HAS THIS JUDGMENT IN THE CIVIL CASE FROM FRIDAY, WHAT'S, THE HUSH MONEY CASE, FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT REMEMBER, IS ABOUT STORMY DANIELS, THE PAYMENT SHE RECEIVED, YOU ARE INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THAT. IT IS WHAT YOU ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL FOR. YOUR TESTIMONY, BEFORE CONGRESS, IS THE REASON THAT THIS TRIAL EXISTS, BECAUSE OF SOMETHING YOU SAID IN A TESTIMONY BEFORE CONGRESS. WHAT IS A WIN FOR STORMY DANIELS IN THIS CASE? >> THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH STORMY DANIELS. IT'S SALACIOUS, RIGHT? IT'S THE PRESIDENT AND THE PORN STAR, IT'S NOT. IT'S CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS, BUSINESS RECORD FRAUD. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CASE IS ABOUT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO -- STORMY IS ACTUALLY AT THE CENTER OF WHAT THE TRANSACTION WAS ABOUT, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT STORMY DANIELS. IT'S ABOUT, AGAIN, CAMPAIGN FRAUD FINANCES WHILE HIS BUSINESS RECORD FRAUD. SO FAR, SYMONE, WE HAVE SEEN, RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE FOUR CRIMINAL CASES. THERE WERE TWO CIVIL CASES. THE TWO CIVIL CASES, DONALD HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE. NO DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY ELSE. THAT'S WHY I CONSTANTLY PREDICT THAT HE WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE ON ALL OF THE CRIMINAL CASES AS WELL. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD THIS STATEMENT, THAT THE WHEELS OF JUSTICE TURN SLOWLY? THEY ULTIMATELY COME FULL CIRCLE. FOR DONALD TRUMP, IT'S NOW COMING FULL CIRCLE. SLOWER THAN WE WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE OF HIS DELAY TACTICS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT COMES FULL CIRCLE. >> AS THE LEGAL FEES ARE MOUNTING, THERE IS CONCERN, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE, FROM NIKKI HALEY, ABOUT DONALD TRUMP USING THE RNC AS HIS PERSONAL PIGGY BANK. SHE DOESN'T WANT THE RNC TO BECOME TRUMP'S LEGAL DEFENSE FUND. IS THERE ANY WAY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STOLEN ORDER, THAT THAT IS -- >> NO. HE NOW HAS HIS INSIDER, HIS FAMILY MEMBER THAT IS GOING TO BE CONTROLLING THE PURSE STRINGS. IF I WAS A DONOR, I WOULD BE VERY RELUCTANT TO SEND AN EIGHT DOLLAR. I FIND IT ODD THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LEAST OR SUPPORTING THE GUY WHO HAS THE MOST. REST ASSURED, IF YOU NEED TO GO TO FLORIDA, DONALD TRUMP WILL NOT PUT YOU UP IN HIS 7:57, EVEN IF THERE'S AN OPEN SEAT. HE DOESN'T CARE. IT'S ALL A GIGANTIC GRIFT. WE KNOW IT. IT'S SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. WE SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY WHAT HE IS DOING. YET, THERE IS STILL THAT MAGA SUPPORTING GROUP, THE SAME FOLKS THAT WENT OUT AND PUT $400, YOU KNOW, THOSE HIDEOUS LOOKING SNEAKERS. THERE ARE STILL WILLING TO PONY UP MONEY FOR HIM. >> POOR MICHAEL STEELE, HE REALLY WANTED A SEAT ON THAT PLANE. >> YES. WEARING THE SNEAKERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE -- >> NOTHING MIKE SHOWS THAT YOUR RACIST, SEXIST, MISOGYNISTS, SEEN A PHONEBOOK, HOMOPHOBIC, ANTI-SUMMIT, THEN A HAIR FELON. >> THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. MICHAEL, LET'S PULL BACK THE LINES A LITTLE BIT. THE THREAD THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THE JUDGES RULING REALLY TOUCHED ON A KEY ELEMENT. IT WAS FEROCITY. WHEN HE LOOKED AT YOUR TESTIMONY, HE CALLED IT OUT, AND TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU SAW THAT REPRESENTATION BY THE JUDGE, AND COMPARING IT TO WHAT HE HEARD ABOUT DONALD TRUMP JR., ERIC TRUMP. EVEN DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF, RELEVANT TO YOUR TESTIMONY, MY SENSE WAS, IT REALLY REINFORCE THIS DECISION IN MANY WAYS, WHAT WE HAD TO SAY TO THAT, JUDGE DESPITE THE FACT THAT, AS A JUDGE NOTED, YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, A FELON, BUT YOU STILL BROUGHT THE TRUTH. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WISH THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE, AND I THANKED JUDGE ENGORON, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, FOR PUTTING IN THAT ADDITIONAL LINE, BECAUSE, REMEMBER, I HAVE TESTIFIED NOW BEFORE SEVEN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES. THE MUELLER TEAM, THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE DETERMINING GENERAL, BEEN ON THE GROUND, JURY I'VE BEEN TO TRIAL FOR THAT CASE. AND SOON TO BE ON THE WITNESS STAND FOR THE MANHATTAN D.A. CASE. I'VE CONTINUOUSLY TOLD THE SAME STORY, THE STORY IS A TRUTHFUL STORY. ALL OF MY INFORMATION IS PREDICATED ON THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY FROM OTHERS. I DO APPRECIATE. WHAT I WISH THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT IS WHAT MY FELLOW, WHAT'S MY PERJURY COUNT WAS. IT WAS THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I CLAIMED TO HAVE SPOKEN TO DONALD TRUMP ABOUT THE FAILED TRUMP TOWER MASCOT REAL ESTATE PROJECT. DONALD WANTED THREE, BECAUSE IT'S A DI
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Length: 10min 43sec (643 seconds)
Published: Sun Feb 18 2024
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