IS HERE AND FORMER ACTING SOLICITOR GENERAL AND MSNBC LEGAL ANALYST OUR FRIEND NEAL KATYAL IS BACK. LET ME START WITH YOU, NEAL, AND THIS LIST. HOW DOES IT DEEPEN YOUR UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST OF WHAT TRUMP HAD, BUT HOW HE HAD IT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, NICOLE. LIKE IN THE START OF A RELATIONSHIP YOU MEET SOMEONE NEW AND EVERY DAY YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW, INTERESTING THAT THAT BRINGIOUS FURTHER. TRUMP IS THE REVERSE OF THAT. EVERY DAY YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND WORSE AND DRAWS PROSECUTORS IN MORE. INVESTIGATIONS, THIS ONE IS SPIRALLING FOR TRUMP DOWNWARDS. IT'S NOT JUST THAT HE STOLE THE DOCUMENTS. IT'S NOT JUST THAT HE LIED ABOUT THEM. IT'S EVERY NEW FACT THAT MAKES THE SITUATION WORSE. SO FIRST WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SOME DOCUMENTS AT MAR-A-LAGO AND THEN WE LEARNED IT WAS HIGHLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND THEN WE LEARNED IT WAS HUMAN SOURCES AND SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE AND SOME OF THE CROWN JEWELS AND THEN WE LEARNED HE DIDN'T RETURN THE DOCUMENTS WHEN THE ARCHIVES ASKED FOR THEM AND THEN WE LEARNED THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAD TO GET A GRAND JURY SUBPOENA FOR THESE DOCUMENTS. THEN WE LEARNED THAT HIS LAWYER CERTIFIED THAT THEY HAD RESPONDED TO THE GRAND JURY AND TURNED OVER THE DOCUMENTS WHEN THEY HADN'T, AND NOW WE'RE LEARNING THAT 43 FOLDERS WERE FOUND WITH CLASSIFIED -- WERE BEARING CLASSIFIED FINDINGS AND A WHOLE LOT MORE WITH MILITARY INFORMATION, AND I'VE JUST BEEN RACKING MY BRAIN. I CAN'T THINK OF WHY TRUMP WOULD HAVE 43 EMPTY, CLASSIFIED FOLDERS THAT WERE COMPLETELY EMPTY AND THAT EVIDENCE IS COMPLETELY CONCERNING, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT TRUMP'S ATTORNEYS HAVE LIE ON THE FBI, AND I DON'T THINK THAT TRUMP'S TEAM HAS SPENT TIME LYING ABOUT THE ARCHIVES AND THE FBI ABOUT SOME EMPTY FOLDER GOING ON HERE. >> PETE STRZOK, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE LYING. IT HAS DEVELOPED EVIDENCE THAT TRUMP'S LAWYERS WERE LYING WHEN THEY SAID ALL OF THE RECORDS WERE IN THE STORAGE ROOM AND THIS IS FROM DOJ'S FILING AFTER TRUMP RESPONDED ON TUESDAY. AFTER PRODUCING THE REDWELL, THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS WERE IN, DOCUMENTS FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS WERE STORED IN ONE LOCATION, A STORAGE ROOM AT THE PREMISES AND THE BOXES OF RECORD IN THE STORAGE ROOM WERE, QUOTE, THE REMAINING REPOSITORY OF RECORDS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. COUNSEL FURTHER REPRESENTED THERE WERE NO OTHER RECORDS STORED IN OTHER PRIVATE SPACE AND OTHER LOCATION OF THE PREMISES AND ALL AVAILABLE BOXES WERE SEARCHED. DONALD TRUMP HAS BASICALLY CONFIRMED THAT THAT WAS A LIE BY SAYING MY DOCUMENTS, MY CLASSIFIED STUFF WASN'T ON THE FLOOR. IT WAS IN MY CARTONS. WE'VE GOT THE TARGET CONFIRMING THAT HE HAD CONFIRMING NOT IN THE STORAGE ROOM WHICH IS WHAT HIS LAWYER ATTESTED TO. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT WHERE THIS INVESTIGATION IS? >> NICOLE, I THINK WHAT IT POINTS TO IS THAT THE CERTAINLY THE WAY INCREASINGLY I THINK ABOUT THIS IS NOT SO MUCH A CASE OF MISHANDLING OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION WITH ELEMENTS OF OBSTRUCTION, BUT MORE A CASE OF OBSTRUCTION WITH ELEMENTS OF MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE RELEASE MATERIALS AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, WHEN YOU LOOKS AT A COVER SHEET AND YOU SEE 42-POINT FONT TOP SECRET AND SECRET WRITTEN ON THE FRONT. IF YOU WERE DOING EVEN THE MOST CURSORY OF SEARCHES IT IS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT SEE THAT, AND SO THE FACT THAT ALL OF THIS WAS RECOVERED AFTER THINGS WERE TURNED OVER TO NATIONAL ARCHIVES, AFTER THINGS WERE VOLUNTARILY TURNED OVER -- WELL, UNDER SUBPOENA TO THE FBI AND DOJ IN JUNE THAT ALL OF THIS MATERIAL WOULD STILL BE THERE? THAT'S REALLY CONCERNING AND THE OTHER CONCERNING PART IS WITH ALL THESE EMPLOY TEE FOLDERS. WHERE IS THAT MORTGAGE FRAUD WHERE THERE WAS A DONE DEAL UNFACTED FOR THAT COULD DO GRAVE DAMAGE TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY. THIS IS POTENTIALLY AN ONGOING THREAT WHICH ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INVESTIGATION BY THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION AND IN PART, MAYBE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER AND PART OF THIS IDEA OF APPOINTING A SPECIAL MASTER IS LUDICROUS BECAUSE THE LAST THING THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DOING NOW IS SLOW ANYTHING DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO FIND THIS MATERIAL AND GET IT BACK. >> WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT NOW, BUT PEEL PETE STRZOK I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SHOWING YOU WHAT BILL BOAR HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT. >> WHAT PEOPLE ARE MISSING ALL OF THE OTHER DOCS WOULD CLAIM EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, EVEN BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOVERNMENT RECORDS AND EVEN IF THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AND SUBJECT TO EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. THEY STILL BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT AND GO TO THE ARCHIVES AND ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SEIZED LIKE NEWS CLIPPINGS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE IN THE BOXES CONTAINING THE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. THOSE WERE SEIZABLE UNDER THE WARRANT BECAUSE THEY SHOW THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION WAS BEING HELD. SO I THINK IT'S A RED HERRING AND AT THIS STAGE SINCE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS THIS WAS A WASTE OF TIME. PEOPLE SAY IT'S UNPRECEDENTED AND IT IS ALSO UNPRECEDENTED FOR A PRESIDENT TO TAKE ALL OF THIS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND PUT THEM IN A COUNTRY CLUB. HOW LONG IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO TAKE TO GET THAT BACK? DO THEY JAWBONE FOR A YEAR? THEY WERE DECEIVED ON THE VOLUNTARY ACTION TAKEN? >> THEY THEN WENT AND GOT A SUBPOENA. THEY WERE DECEIVED ON THAT, THEY FEEL, AND THE FACTS ARE STARTING TO SHOW THIS THEY WERE BEING JERKED AROUND. >> HOW LONG DID THEY WAIT? >> PETE STRUCK, DOES HE MAKE A GOOD POINT THERE? >> NICOLE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. >> WE WAITED LONG ENOUGH. >> WHEN THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD MAKES A POINT THAT YOU AGREE WITH WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO? [ LAUGHTER ] >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHOEVER'S MOUTH IT IS COMING OUT OF AND WHOEVER DID AS MUCH IN THEIR POWER AS ANYBODY ELSE DID IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO ENABLE THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT, AND HE DID JERK AROUND REPEATEDLY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, FIRST THE ARCHIVES AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THERE IS NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF SAFETY, LET ALONE AN AUTHORIZED STORAGE CONTAINER AT THE COUNTRY CLUB AT MAR-A-LAGO. THAT'S COMPLETELY
