WWSD: Rethinking the AR15 - CONCLUSION

hey guys thank you for tuning in to another episode of in range this is actually the final conclusion kind of sad in a way some people thought it would never come never end the wall would stone a new project we took a long time getting here because we really wanted to be very thoughtful about every sub component in this gun yeah and that's what took this a while now some people said why did you just do this in a week or two because we went through a number of ways of testing and we went through a number of iterations of parts yep quite a lot of stuff to get to where we're at like for example a couple things didn't work out quite the way we wanted we went somewhere else we did this or that or tried a bunch of sub components II would this work better than that would this do this would to do that and so that's how we came to the conclusion we came to and when the conclusion we've come to is we're finally talking about the 14.5 inch super-lightweight carbine which is interesting because I have mine right here which is the one I used throughout the entire what would started your project and I a mine here which you've never seen before yeah yes as a viewer yep because you made a conclusion after going through the what what started your project and shooting your longer rifle we originally started with yours being a DMR we realized it wasn't it was just a longer rifle for a little longer range yep and we had my carbine and when we were done with the project your conclusion was I just don't have the need for the extra barrel length and the extra magnification yeah everything I will ever want to do with that rifle I think I can do just as well or even better with the shorter carbine yep shorter carbine is substantially lighter weight it is in fact for the final tally I measured this without the sling and without the light okay so you have the hollow Sun on it with the optic okay five pounds 2.9 ounces 5 pounds to 2.9 ounces I think we've been understating we've actually been we've been telling people that this was about a six-pound gun well it is when you pile all this extra junk on well the reason you want to have such a light gun is so you can pile on the extra junk and still have a light gun right so this gun even with the light and the laser and this little vertical vertical grip doodad and the magnifier is still lighter weight than an iron sighted m16a2 by a large degree ya pounds lighter and that translates into a carry ability carry ability handle ability and agility that you just don't have with a big heavy gun right boy did I learn that hard in the Red October match when I brought out that alpha-a K and I actually you know it was really closely simulating some of the guns they saw captured in Syria and things like that right and some of the stuff those guys need on their gun they need them on the in the field but when you try to be fast dynamic with a gun weighs 13 pounds it is a lot harder thing to be fast and dynamic you know the other side of that is there are people who are gonna hear that and say well you're clearly just a weakling and you might need to go to the gym sure the no matter all of that aside every pound of gun is one pound less of anything else that you can carry the point whether you can carry 20 pounds of stuff total or 200 pounds of stuff mm-hmm every pound that's on your gun is one pound that you cannot have of something else and that's the military application of something like this it's I got 15 pounds of rifle and ammo yep do you want seven pounds of rifle and eight pounds ammo or do you want five pounds of rifle 10 pounds of ammo ammo which one's more useful yeah but also no matter how strong you are how capable you are the reality is a lightweight gun that balance as well the transition between targets all of that matters better it's a huge deal it makes such a difference exactly the stronger you are the more you can exploit a very light rifle however even if you aren't particularly strong this rifle now becomes viable to people that don't have those capabilities exactly we've seen a number of people that aren't necessarily big brawny dudes and they pick up this gun and it absolutely suits them in a way that the traditional m4 configuration with the cheesegrater rails at you know nine pounds something else and the big heavy grenade launcher cut barrel on top of exactly all that included now another thing that's interesting about this is that when you look it's like some people say Bullpups and bullpup so generally a little heavy but they balance well towards the rear when the guns light enough as this is this kind of one-handed manipulation that you normally would see people doing with a bullpup because of the balance being in the rear becomes just as capable with this light gun because it doesn't matter it weighs 5 pounds 2 ounces yeah yeah especially one like this that well and even more so if you take the light off of it yeah I know I'm doing that with all my you know force multiplying garbage on the front but and the reason for this on my gun by the way was to test that viability out it wasn't necessarily we were going to have a practical application of an IR laser at a match and we knew that but having it on there told me things about my rail system whether or not it was gonna retain zero which by the way it does and all that extra a little bit of weight out there how does the gun balance now that I have things that normally are considered kind of a requirement on what you would consider a tactically applied rifle the laser maybe not the light absolutely is a requirement so other things we learned in the process and we've talked about this before in the project these carbon fiber flow to besides being very strong and very light they actually are really good about heat yeah so we had a little bit of a concern at first that the the gas tube comes up right underneath this handguard because this handguard is fairly small in diameter deliberately and we never had any issues with the handguard heating up in fact what's really kind of cool is out here in the Arizona desert now it's winter right now but we were running these during the summer and normally at a match or any an evening you leave the gun out in the summer in the Sun and it will literally become hot enough to burn you you can touch it not a round fire you pick the gun up and it will scorch you to the port where you cannot actually use the gun correctly I've had worse scores because when I went to shoot the gun was burning me to the point that I could not concentrate on what I was trying to do yeah the polymer G wax stock doesn't do that it doesn't do that as badly and the carbon fiber float tube doesn't do it at all it's an incredible it's incredibly good at not being heat absorbent that is something we did not anticipate didn't expect it turns out to be a really cool side benefit that's not something the arctic guys are gonna be all that concerned about but it's really nice down here in the desert yep and then we had some things that were a little bit of shift I do have a piece of Picatinny rail here at the front nothing on it right now but that is where I can put my quick detach Harris bipod I decided that unfortunately bipod we were trying to use just didn't quite cut it yeah we we never did come up with a totally appropriate bipod but a little piece of real light there with a QD one thing I would like to say is that we did mention that the gas tube is very close to the 12 o'clock position of that rail system it is difficult to mount objects or things on these m block slots right here because the rail and the gas to look quite close yeah it's possible but difficult so really these slots here are usable the ones near the rear or not not really important there's not really anything I want to put there um other things that were very controversy about the product is the fact that we hired we eschewed the use of iron sights or backup polymer sites or any form of backup iron sights we don't have them on the front here on the top and we don't have them in the rear and the reason for that really wasn't because we were trying to tell you you should not ever have backup sights which is by the way the way the world decided to take it the epical internet um but that wasn't the purpose the purpose for that was to prove that we had faith in a relatively little cost chinese-manufactured optic yeah and that things have gotten so good that we didn't I think that this would fail under any conditions that we were going to use it in and therefore we were not worried about having a backup iron sight yes kind of beat up there quite honestly it is beat to crap it is scraping very badly has been hit a number of times and I got to say part and parcel of one of the things that we wanted to do with the what what's done a new project was to modernize the sighting system and we landed up going with a hollow Sun because it brought things to the table the other companies that are a little bit more conservative have not done yet right it has an auto adjustment brightness that has an EOTech reticle and it has more importantly a solar panel on the top allowing this to work in pretty much any conditions and keep the thing running and on top of that it does auto adjustment of brightness which normally I turn off when I find it to work really well your pros and cons that generally works okay on top of that the other reason what okay follow up here the other part I was gonna say is the other reason for not having backup iron sights on the gun this is exactly that was okay was because I wanted the free rail space now I'm gonna pose this to you and you don't have to agree and I know some of you are not going to I believe the rail space conservation that's on this not wait but the rail space conservation allows me to do more important things with the rifle than having backup iron sights that by the way I have never deployed on any gun I've ever had them on in any situation now if your kind gets hit with bullets or whatever you got a problem you got a bigger problem at backup iron sights probably but I've never had an optic fail in a way that I had to flip up a backup iron sight to rely on them or do something to keep going so since I have so much faith in sand some in the modern optics but I'd rather have is this rail space open to put where I wanted to be for I relief my magnifier and I've got the magnifier on as a QD so if I don't want the magnifier on there I could take that off reduce the weight of the gun put this in my pack and now I have I'm back closer to my 5-pound 2-ounce gun but oh gee golly gee things are bad today things are far away really I want this pop it on and if I had a backup iron sight on there the ability to put that magnifier where I want it you've just now changed you could put it back up iron and then put the magnifier super close but people were talking about length of pull and armor if you're putting on a magnifier that slightly changes your eye relief you can adjust your eye relief now by changing where you put the optic on the rail right and there's yet another potential reason to want that rail space and that's night vision that is why don't you hold this for a moment so so this is actually a cool product that I found a long time ago I forgot even who makes it I think it's us Paul Moore was you as Paul you got your helmet cool but you got this pouch in your helmet even cooler get rid of the helmet so that is cool yeah it's a way to carry your night vision in an armoured way without carrying a separate night vision container yeah in the helmet so here's my pvs-14 which in most modern applications you see people using them they have them helmet mounted because they want to be able to do things with without being weapon mounted and they use their IR laser as their aiming device typically it's very hard with a helmet mounted pvs-14 to get behind even a red dot right doable very challenging it okay now I'm gonna pose this out there goes everyone helmet Mouse their night vision if you're going against an equal force that also has night vision you know what you don't want to be do emanating IR lasers and our laser goes that way and it goes right back to you yeah so at that point you have to start doing things that are more passive or you may want to be passive for other reasons so because we have the real space save by getting rid of the iron sights I can take this off damn my helmet put on my pvs-14 crank that on there are many mounting systems for pvs-14 this is just the super simple one I've got on here and lamb-lamb a-- I am now in passive night vision mode and I'm on weapon I'm not emanating an IR laser I can actually use this to look through this and I have everything freed up I don't have anything hanging off my helmet or head maybe I don't have a helmet and now I have night vision capabilities other accessories may apply like for example the what's that corner site that corner just again if you wanted eyes you had some sort of 90 degree or angle angle shot kind of thing again cool things it's a thing you couldn't do if you had a plastic mag pulp site sitting there instead it would make it more far more challenging if not possible at all you are going out there and you're making the claim the pvs-14 is gonna be more useful on that than a plastic iron sight yes and I think it is I'm gonna go ahead and say that a pvs-14 is a more valuable piece of equipment to have on your rifle than a peanut plastic backup iron sight no you know there again there are situations where maybe that backup iron sight could save your life but the situations in which you're going to probably need some other four piece of equipment on your gun are highly more likely in that back up by our sight situation that in my opinion not always is mostly longer so let's be fair that there are really two applications that we're talking about here one is serious military application in which case things like this and you see this when you look at a lot of pictures of a lot of Special Forces guys not just American but around the world they often don't have a backup iron sight because they've got something more valuable there whether it's a magnifier or a night-vision device or some other thing a thermal I mean could be any sort of thing yeah and the other group are people who are recreational or competitive shooters mm-hmm and for that group a cop I heard cite isn't relevant if your scope breaks you know home and you fix it well replace it it hurts your score that day fine but I don't know that the backup iron sight is gonna be all that much of a help your score is trashed when your optic goes down if in the first if you're in taxco up with your cool one to 50x magnifier and and and that thing decides to die that day the iron sights aren't going to fix your score on that stage for that day so you're out of that match the other thing I would say is that if you're using a red dot sight I'd still rather have their real space for just a magnifier yeah then than anything else yeah even for a competition you've been in competition for recreational gun plus the ability to take things on and off is reducing or increasing weight necessary based on what you're trying to do with that particular moment yeah other stuff that was controversial about this of course is we went with the G wax polymer lower yeah now we have videos in every one of these sub components but this is the conclusion yeah this was controversial I love this thing I do too what I was gonna say about that is the first of all it's more durable than you'd think it's the only durable polymer lower on the market they've been running I literally have run these over with cars intentionally and unintentionally and they survive when aluminum lowers do not write because these flex and then they come back bend elastically aluminum just bends plastic some of the reasons that they have that rigidity is because there's a honeycomb in here and it was designed to be a polymer lower out of the box it wasn't an aluminum lower suddenly made in polymer right now that means you don't have a interchangeable pistol grip you can't change the length of pull and our contention throughout this entire project is doesn't matter okay well this isn't comfortable you know what I found this to be the case there's a lot of things I found to not be comfortable until I'm shooting it on the clock and realize it doesn't that comfort that's suddenly so important to make sure it comfortably campano completely fits my hand like that adjust a grip or whatever we saw cha-cha you know what that's cool when you're at home playing with it but when you're on the clock you're trying to hit targets as long as it isn't so uncomfortable that it's impeding your ability to perform it's irrelevant it just doesn't matter it's literally irrelevant and the length of pull not irrelevant but almost irrelevant so much so that for me the added benefit of it doesn't pluck mustache hairs makes enough difference that I'd rather have this than an adjustable stop now obviously we're not gonna argue that not plucking mustache hairs is going to be important when you're fighting Isis in you know L bonus day hey you know what it makes the rifle before comfortable it does however in people go with armor you need an adjustable length well I just argued a couple points earlier in the video that changed that by not having the backup iron sights and adjusting where the eye relief is required for my quick detach optic if I set my quick detach optic with the eye relief that I have when I have armor on and therefore it is further back or further forward guess what I can do I can yeah especially with the magnifier that doesn't change the 0 of your red dot by applying it or taking it on or off if you obviously if it is done if it's one that has a zero like a variable you're not going to be moving it around but if you have the right variable another thing we did in the project we found that eye relief is not that important on many of the high-end quality variables right they have a large wide eye box and people say well you don't shoot an armor and I will argue yes we do good shot matches and a lot of times in armor and this once again just like the pistol grip not being interchangeable kind of vanishes on the clock you know I think some of the armor the the adjustable stock for armor comes from the 80s and 90s when it wasn't rifle plate carriers it was these giant Michelin Man flak vest suits and you still see those in some some armies but I think I'll I don't think anybody in the civilian world is deliberately using that stuff anymore or certainly not trying to build their gear around it and hopefully most militaries are thieves and I think they're starting to get away from you know now we're another thing you made a good point I think by saying ATS for example you know what was not really common in the 80s quality high-end futuristic optics yeah so if there was a length of pull issue with iron sights my oag was great no oh but iron sights matters more you need a consistent cheek weld and a consistent have placement the comb to get accurate hits with irons yeah and therefore length of pull when it changes depending on what you have on matters a lot with iron sights yeah far more than it would with absolutely zero matter with a red dot and very little with a magnifier as long as you've got real space to change the eye relief depending on what you have on that particular day yeah one more thing we didn't get into already I just thought up the red dot again we went with a red dot on the carbine and you have a hollow sound there you decided to copy that idea it doesn't have to be hollow some we like the hollows on because of the things that it brought to the table what would a red dot does especially on a carbine that's designed for zero to three hundred yards as well as CQB or at a match close-range targets but that EOTech reticle helps a lot guess what you have absolutely zero eye relief yeah you bring the gun up if there's a red dot or a reticle in the field of view anywhere in the field of view you can fire hit the target yeah and when speed matters and time matters and we're talking milliseconds the red dot is the fastest sighting system you could possibly leverage on a gun it's also dramatically easier to use in awkward positions if you have to shoot from your weak shoulder if you have to shoot from weird you know bending over you have a V tach barricade where you have to shoot with the rifle horizontal rollover prone under a vehicle any number of those things without the eye relief requirements of a magnified optic or iron sights these are just way easier to use a high-end variable will get very close we found that to be the case with the trigger con acupoint that we're like man the I really find this is so forgiving at 1x that I'm like but when the day is done things are said the red dot is still in my opinion the possible fastest sighting system you can have even reflex sights and things like that which are technically they're actually 1x it's different than 0 X right now I know that's not the exact terminology but I'm going to go ahead and call this zero X because there's absolutely no form of magnification going on all it's a lens in front of you with a reticle projected on it you're just looking through it again and therefore no aberration of your sight picture no operation of what you're looking at downrange besides maybe some color hue or tint yeah and you just have a reticle that you use in whatever position is that to get it huge so we like the concept of the red dot we like the Hollis on we would never denigrate someone for picking some different than the hala Sun as long as it's as good or better if you want to go put an 8-point comp m5 awesome do it and answer the question by the way the the hollow the hollow Sun 5oc three-layer 503 C at least it is not a tax-free life of company oh you can reduce this actually does have a low enough setting that it will work with the night vision got a problem I was able to do that without any issues at all yeah just go to the lowest setting and you're good and you turn off the auto adjustment yeah so but other than that I mean gosh what else is there to say at this point really well like a I built a new upper yeah to have a carbine length upper yep because I just came to the cur every time we by the end of this project we were getting to places someone that actually happened when we were at we were at Tiger Valley yeah you were you were using your gun very effectively but there were a number of times where you said you know I wish I just had the carbine yeah yep and oh one more how I do one more thing I do have this neato thingamajig wrapped around my stock one thing that could be better on the lower is it could have better places to a chip to put your skier sling and where if you know it house and notice what we've done with the end we standardized on the V tach two-point quick adjustable there are others on the market I work with the V tax tail at least is long enough you can actually just wrap it through the stock cinch it down at the top at the 12 o'clock or two o'clock wherever you want it as long as you get it tighten up it's a little too loose here but it doesn't matter this gives you where you want your sling to be with a two point anyway yeah you don't need any special hardware on the stock to do that this happens to be something that I think calves arms made before calves arms went away and I had it in a drawer but the blue force gear makes one similar okay I could do the same thing with blue force gear but you don't need that if you at least with the VTEC the tail is long enough to go ahead and sling it up and you're good to go god I'm sure we're forgetting something cool the PDQ lever you get that turned out to be a big deal yeah that really helps for for handling yep for being able to wrong hander mag an all closed or if you're in an ambidextrous situation even if you're right-hander that does apply you don't need it but it's interesting part and we've harped on this before but the bad lever is just a bad idea we saw PEC we saw another problem with them at desert brutality yep we did it wasn't an ende but we had a guy break his in battle ever broke and it messed up his trigger group that's us but that said after we started paying attention to people running bad levers we saw no less than three and Di's it matches with bad livers yeah and don't do it I had one myself not as a match but out here when we were trying to film and I was doing something I fired the gun I'm like yeah that's gone off forever no extra controls in the fire control group ever yeah do not do not put them in there so so PDQ works great by the way someone's gonna cash in your this is loose and it's not a problem what happened is I just did not belong type that down this is held in with this group so before anyone says anything this is still working it just happened to be I didn't blue loctite that and I should have so that's no big deal what also the charging handle we landed up going with the guys Lee ACH and charging handle so you got charged again we went with the super which means the wings are a little bigger yeah you know what people gave us a lot of recommendations on others on the market as well we couldn't try them all we tried several we did and the guy sleigh is expensive but it just worked really nicely and it didn't catch on ending gear no nope never had an issue with it and of course we've got the SLT one triggering here from Katie arms they now have an SLT 2 which has a flat trigger if you're so inclined in general let's give our conclusions about the what would started your project what do you think about what did you think going into this project I thought it would be an interesting exploration to do I don't know what I don't know how much I really expected to get out of it would be it does seem to be a take on the AR that nobody else is looking at and that seems odd because I think people would and now here at the end of it I'm freaking thrilled this is this is my one go to rifle mail yeah because it does everything as a conglomerate it does everything better than any other rifle I can't think of what I would what I would want that could possibly surpassed we've been able to accomplish in this yeah the project started off as a g-wiz what happens if we revisit what would the stoner do was a play on the idea of why did we not use a gun now that's with modern materials right that's also lightweight yeah oh and and the pencil barrel fun facts as well that's another video that was that's probably the most important the driving price single most driver but two pencil barrows an example of where modern manufacturing capabilities have changed some of the things that he tried to do then and made them viable now yeah so the polymer lower would have been something he would have at least considered her looked at I think so because it's a modern Mishima manufacturing and capability and material that's lightweight the pencil barrel it was able to do what his Oh at least the original ones could not which is maintain at least a 1 MOA of accuracy shift even under high heat stress right the original ones shift at four or five will be tested and in random direction in random directions obviously the carbon fiber m-lok rail is way ahead of its time in that regard the sighting systems etc but no way you don't see too many people visiting this idea of why is they are become this 12 pound behemoth thing right and and that's what this was and when we got done with the project it actually surpassed all of my expectations excellent and when you're running like this gun in a match or in a timed environment or at a training event cuz I took it to training events as well with a gun as I'm gonna use your words the gun disappears and what you're trying to achieve becomes your goal and all you know is that the guns doing it with you right not against you yeah it's like driving a car that is well-designed you don't notice the steering wheel you don't notice the pedals you're just driving where you're attempting to drive same thing happens with this you don't notice the rifle you just there's the target yeah make its next target make hits and make hits is literally pull the trigger when you want to hit the target almost always even if distance it's amazing so unless you've tried something like this or tried one of these rifles you're not gonna really you can't grok this unless you do it the weight is something that just I can't get across on camera and the balance and all the other things there's lots in aggregate this becomes better than the sum of its the sum of its parts that make it what it is yeah and people that tried it at the match we had people into good match to pick up on what would start a new car Vanilli and then no joke a month later they had won yeah because it changes the way you look at they are you know there may be a few follow-ups to this video even though this is the final conclusion of the project because we've got a couple sort of been there done that military guys who have expressed curiosity about it and there are some people I would love to put again you can describe it all you want but I'd love to put one of these in the hands of a couple specific people yep and just see what their reactions are this is not something that we're advocating like the army should go replace all of their m16s with these obviously no but I would love to hear some reactions from people with some some very substantial real world experience here's what I would say to that a lot of people take everything out of context is this Palmer lower for example ready for military issue use no I don't think it is I think what we're doing here is when you look at what we did with the project for someone who's really a student with it not for general issue but someone who needs something specialized they could take it handle this yeah a competitor's handle it civilians can't because they're not putting into the rigors of war or per se although the stock this this lower does handle a lot what I would say is what you want to look at with what we did with this project is take the concept and the parts that we were able to acquire and apply it towards future endeavors with where the AR should go in a three or a four or a five or six generation version of a G whacks lower it could be something improved upon this but if we take the concept to keep moving forward with man and AR really shouldn't be more than six pounds right then we could do amazing things I think so yeah so I think there's been a really popular project onion range more than I expected hopefully the future ones will be just as but I don't care if it's popular or not I'm thrilled that we did it because I really love the outcome and so what people should also really we're not selling these rifles no this is not something we're making money on we dealt with multiple different companies someone's selling them because I'll tell you what when I tried to get the parts to build my new I yeah it was a little difficult at some points even could not get the parts for his own rifle yeah but what people think all they're just showing for this concept no we're not because we do not make money from geo X we don't make money from PACs I'm we don't make money from home so I don't even know if they know who we are certainly don't make money from a pvs-14 manufacturer none of these things any income on in range what we did is work with companies that had for leaning interesting products that could apply to the project and then worked with them to collaborate on building what we wanted to build right and we've had people say why don't you have someone else build the rifle the problem is it's an aggregation and amalgamation of multiple different companies products it's like gee wax makes this FAC sound makes that the hollow son makes this arrow makes the upper dies Lee makes this ke arms makes that and that's a hard proposition to deal with is to get one guy to want to aggregate all of those different divergent companies into one product yeah so and it's a pain in the butt trying to coordinate something like that and we just want to do other things yeah but the point is we're not selling these what we're saying is what I'm gonna do is list all of these sub components every piece of it now that we are certified on all of them that are in this carbine you can have a list on the in range TV website there'll be a link in the description below of every sub component with a link to it and an average cost yeah last point everyone says why'd you build those elite expensive rifles they weren't that bad some of the parts are expensive some of the parts are cheap but certainly not a super expensive yeah I already handguard cost more than our object yeah we went for the parts that did the things that we wanted to do without considering cost either high or low honestly I don't remember what the final cost came to I'll do the math we'll do the math we'll have it up there because full disclosure some of these parts were donated to us some of them we purchased so that said I did do the math at one point I'm not gonna say the number of via because then I have to correct it anyway yeah but when I got to the number of what a full carbine was in terms of cost it was significantly lower than a number of what you would consider high-end manufacturer ones yeah if you went to Daniel defense it said give me your best stuff click it was that was dramatically more than what would stoner do car being built with all the components we have here this is gonna cost you substantially more than a $450 beater you know oh god we made too many of these before the election closeout kind of junk right then I'm gonna argue you don't want anyway night yeah so but that that I think that we covered all of the topics hopefully yeah it's a what would start a new project why the goals where we got to the achievement that we made with it as a team as well as with collaboration with others and I think we've come up with in my opinion best-of-breed AR you could buy right I think so yeah you may not agree but that's okay you haven't tried it guys thank you for tuning into this if you would like this kind of content and this kind of deep dive onto stuff because we're gonna be doing more of that in the future on other topics yes please consider supporting us on patreon we bring hopefully bring a historical reference point to our topics and efforts which was why we did what was donor do yeah the historical reference of what the air was supposed to be versus what it became and this project was a return to those roots and it's because of patreon support that we can do 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Keywords: wwsd, ar15, m16, m16a2, m16a1, stoner, sullivan, eugene stoner, jim sullivan, 5.56, 223, .223, slt-1, slt-2, ke arms, GWACS, faxon, pencil barrel, carbon fiber float tube, norgon, pdq, holosun, 503c, kasarda, inrangetv, forgotten weapons

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Length: 28min 50sec (1730 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 07 2018