Wide vs Narrow Winter Tires Tested - What's REALLY Better on Snow and Ice?

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In this video I will finally be answering whether  a narrow tire or a wide tire is better on snow and   ice. Firstly why are we even having this argument  well there are two contrasting theories both of   them technically correct coming at different sides  of the coin. The first, and this is the one you   most often hear from the internet experts, is that  a narrower Tire puts more pressure in contact with   the surface below thus generating more grip.  Now this is technically correct for physical   grip but it ignores the fact tires also produce  grip through chemical interactions and that a   tire's footprint actually changes as the tire gets  narrower, the footprint gets longer. It's a bit of   a shame that this one isn't strictly true because  if it was a LaFerrari or any other hyper car would   be running around on these 205 wide tires which  would look hilarious. The contrasting argument   is that a wider Tire just puts more down, more  compound in contact with the surface generating   more grip, and for an all season and winter tire  more sipes which are the little Cuts in the rubber   that give the tire edges to cut into the surface  and grip, and everything else being equal a wider   tire will have more void in the tread pattern to  pack in snow, and as snow grips snow that also   gives its advantage. As this has been quite  a difficult one to work out I've needed the   help of a tire company, and thankfully Hankook  tires have once again stepped up and helped out,   so huge thank you to Hankook. They provided all  the way from a 205 wide tire on a 16-inch wheel   up to a 275 wide tire on a 19-inch wheel, and  they did all the maths about wheel sizes spaces   and everything needed for this BMW 3 Series.  The tires are slightly different, the smallest   is the Hankook Winter I*Cept RS3, and then the  bigger three are one of my favorite winter tires,   the Hankook Winter I*Cept EVO 3, so excellent  winter tires to be getting on with. Let's finally   find out, let's get on with the testing. For snow  handling I started with the smallest and ran to   the biggest and then looped back around to the  smallest for verification, so that means I started   with the 205 on the 16-in wheel moved to the 225  square on the 18in wheel then moved to the 255   Square on a 19in wheel and then I put the 275 just  on the rear. Now we couldn't fit 275 all the way   around sadly but it will give us some interesting  data points, especially during the traction test   I'll do later. Starting with the smallest the  205, now this is quite a small wheel and tire   for this car but you know what it felt great! We  know the RS3 is a good winter tire and everything   just felt easy it like it had good levels of  grip, if anything compared to the best tires   it did feel a little bit disconnected a little bit  more disconnected than the bigger wheel sizes, and   that was especially noticeable on turning where  you just you were just kind of guessing a little   bit more when the car would actually turn, and  there was a slight delay, but the benefit of the   higher sidewall was, this track isn't perfectly  smooth and there were some ups and downs and   some undulations and over those it was the least  affected, some of the other tires would break into   understeer or oversteer as the surface undulation  changed, but the smaller one just soaked up,   it felt the most stable mid corner, but it just  felt a little bit more disconnected. Switching to   the slightly wider 225 now this was the biggest  jump subjectively, but I've got to use the word   biggest a little bit carefully because it was very  small. The turning was a bit crisper so the car,   you turned it just felt a little bit more  crisper on initial turning but then it would   pick up understeer a little bit more quickly  the overall connectiveness, if is that a word,   how connected you felt to the driving experience,  was improved, and I imagine that's largely to do   with the much smaller sidewalk going from a 60  profile to a 45 profile and the bigger wheel size,   but the differences were incredibly tiny. In  fact I even wrote in my notes if this is the   differences between the 205 and the 225 I'm  not really going to have much to talk about...   for shadowing? Maybe. Probably correct. Moving to  the 255 Square, yes you've guessed it everything,   was just a little bit more direct, very very  difficult to notice between the 225 and the 255,   even with that extra width and the extra inch of  wheel size and you just had to be a little bit   more delicate and a little bit more prepared with  your actions because when we went from grip to no   grip, to that transition, sliding period it was  just a little bit more abrupt and it happened a   little bit more quickly, but the margins are  very small. Interestingly when I put the 275   wide on the rear the balance almost came back or  the the progressiveness stepped up a little bit   on the rear axle, the 275 just slid a little bit  more nicely it gave you a tiny bit more control.   I guess it felt more like the 225 or even the  205, that big wide rear tire just allowed you   to to play gracefully with the rear which I  really enjoyed. The differences were however,   I'm going to remind you, extremely small. Now  at this point you're probably screaming at me   for times, which is completely fair, you've  listened to me talk, I'll put them on screen   now. The entire difference between the narrowest  and the widest was a massive 1.8%, and it wasn't   actually the narrowest that was quickest, it was  the 225, so one of the middle sizes. Now this 1.8%   is smaller than the differences between a bad  winter tire and a good winter tire, or a good   winter tire and an excellent winter tire, so, so  far for snow handling at least, there's there's   just no point worrying about what tire size you  pick, but there is lots of point worrying about   what tire you pick. But let's go and see if I  changed my mind during traction [Music] Testing   traction and braking turned out to be quite...  interesting! Snow traction had the narrow 205 wide   tire offering the best 0 to 35 kph times at 6.35  seconds, which was nearly 5% better than the 225,   and over 6% better than the 255 and the 275  could manage, so it seems that the narrower   tire can't quite turn as well, but longitudinally  it offers more grip. But wait! Snow braking had   the 225 back at the front almost matching the  255, with the narrowest tire now the worst,   4.5% behind. So that is not what I expected! What  about ice? Well ice testing is even more difficult   than snow so we ran the group twice which resulted  in over 100 acceleration and braking runs for the   four configurations to ensure the data is as  pure as it possibly could be. The results? Well   the narrow 205 was back at the front offering the  best traction, and the narrow 205 was back at the   back offering the worst braking again pretty much  mirroring what we found on snow. Maybe averaging   things out will help us get a better picture.  Excluding snow handling the narrowest tire was the   best in the snow, with the widest being the worst.  When we averaged out ice performance the narrowest   tire was also the best, but this time the widest  combination of tires was second best and the 225   that did so well in snow struggled more in ice.  So let's finally average out the directions. The   narrow tire does have a clear advantage in  both the traction tests so this is at least   one result I'm happy with, the narrower tire is  just better in traction. However when we averaged   out braking it was clearly the worst which just  still doesn't quite make sense to me. Overall from   all the testing the narrow tire scored the most  points, but as I've stressed a number of times,   at this point the testing was extremely close and  you'll find a bigger variance between a bad and a   good winter tire than the differences we have  in this test. The obvious elephant in the room   is the different tread patterns on the narrow 205,  sadly this was the only way of getting this range   of sizes possible, but if we just look at the 225,  255 and 275 which all have the same tread pattern,   it's fair to say that width just doesn't really  matter at all, and since filming this at the start   of the year here I've seen some other tests and  they've found exactly the same. So what can we   learn from all this testing, well I think there's  three key takeaways here. In terms of handling,   in terms of outright grip around the handling lap  there was almost nothing in it. Yes there was some   subjective differences between the 16 inch and  the 19 inch but this has got a very high sidewall,   so that's what gives you that subjective handling  difference. In terms of outright performance if   you look at a winter tire test there was less of a  difference between these two as there was between   a very good winter tire and just a good winter  tire so I don't think you can really decide a   width is better for handling or not. In terms of  traction, the narrower tire definitely seemed a   little bit better both on snow and ice, but in  terms of braking, which is essentially reverse   traction, it didn't quite live up to the wider  tires. Just to quickly drive home that point,   I have the data from this year's Tyre Reviews  winter tire test which was tested at the same time   on the same vehicle at the same location. In that  comparative test of 11 winter tires, even ignoring   the cheap budget tire, the delta between a good  and bad winter tire in snow handling was over 6   seconds a lap whereas in this test it was just  2 seconds, in snow traction it was a 3/4, of a   second difference here it was half a second, and  in snow braking there was a 3 meter difference,   whereas we had just a difference of half a meter  in this test between the same tire in different   sizes. Most people will not have the option of a  205 or a 275 wide winter tire on their vehicle,   they'll be looking at the differences of maybe 20  millimeters, a 205 or a 225, or a 225 and even a   255, that's probably quite rare in the real world  as well, that means the differences between these   these or these is essentially nothing, so stop  worrying about how wide your winter tire is and   start worrying about how good the winter tire your  fitting is, because that's going to make a much   bigger difference. Fit a winter tire like this  Hankook Winter I*Cept EVO 3, it's an outstanding   winter tire, as this this RS3, so Hankook are  making some exceptional winter tires and the   All Season the summer tires are excellent too.  Thank you so much to Hankook for supporting this,   test let me know what you've decided from all the  data, whether you're going to try and size down,   you know what it does make sense to fit a narrower  winter tire in the winter because you can put a   smaller wheel on and protect your big alloy, so  on a car like this maybe you're running a 19in or   an 18in wheel on a 255 and maybe you want to go to  a 225 on a 16 or 17in steel wheel just to protect   your summer wheels, that has a lot of merit, but  in terms of width just stop worrying about it,   pick a good winter tire, not a wide winter  tire or a narrow winter tire. Anyway let me   know your thoughts any questions please  ask below and as always safe motoring!
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Published: Mon Nov 13 2023
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