Why the Italian Mafia Hated The Godfather Movie

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so you've never acted before Godfather I so who's playing call they said number had some playing caller I told Sinatra that story at the Copa I told the stripper II started crying I mean how ironic is that Sinatra was my only singing teacher the bigger the pain the bigger the upset you could have gone either way by the way you have an aspect of your life that is linked to the mob and then the other side is entertainment you've met every single mob boss in the US right all of them every mob field I met every guy and I was always the kid well you never actually and joined them up there's a lot of stories about me of people I killed it all that I'm with Marlon Brando he says to me too bad you were never a Marilyn Monroe Joe Kennedy I'm gonna set up my own Monroe with Bobby and John and they were gonna film it like they did with Jay Hoover before I tell you what I'm sitting down with you today I just kind of want to tell you what Robert De Niro said about him okay so this is the book called Hollywood Godfather Robert De Niro says Johnny Russell walks the walk talks to talk what a life a worthy read right now before we even start the interview let me kind of give you a glimpse about what stories you may hear about today Marlon Brando Marilyn Monroe James Caan Al Pacino De Niro there's a lot of stories the people this guy part he had one of the best clubs in Vegas for seven years that everybody would go to party I don't want to spoil all these stories I want him to tell the stories to you but today's guest with me the one and only from the movie Godfather Gianni Russo here with us Johnny thank you man willing to have y'all all was my pleasure you know I'm sitting here watch and get ready to do this yeah obviously together and I'm telling myself what you and I just talked about in the last hour fascinating thank you the amount of stuff you've experienced it's crazy like a hundred people's lives into one life well I had a I started very young it's 12 got the loyalty of so many people and I'm still around 76 oh look how many years I've been doing it that's unbelievable and but I did interesting things I was not a person that I'd get bored if I wasn't changing my occupé every seven years in doing something like that so I say you know I'm trying to say what angles to go but I said we start off with Godfather how about we do that we do get I want to go Godfather and then we go back to upbringing story how that was and then how it led to post Godfather but I want to start off with Godfather so I've heard a lot of stories okay about how it happened where you got the role right cop you know they're looking for different people to play Carlos and Carlo and they're thinking about who this guy is gonna be and it's somehow someway you come out of nowhere and you start playing at the roles so what is your version of the story based on whatever I won't hear from you well that's probably the cleanest version because what I've heard it's craziness no I I always on my ego I saw the tremendous ego and I had to drive and I always want to be an actor and I always heard you know your trials and tribulations you got a sputter you got to do this and I figured how am I gonna get in then they came out with the book mm-hmm and I had someone read it to me because I can't read at that time she read it and then they knew they were having problems with anti-defamation league the Colombo family so I at the time was I jewelry stores in Las Vegas and I was doing you know all kinds of things down there so I had I always do my own commercials so I have the camera crew so I shot a scene for Michael scene for Carlo and the scene for Sonny you did all those three I did the three got it and then I played politics and I got to meet Betty makar kind who was Al Rudd ease executive secretary so how girlfriend got to me to her I said I had this test and I was Freeman everybody in the world must be sending tests how can I make this exclusive so I said what kind of causes like she's all he loves Bentley's and Rose Royce's I just happened to have one eye - what kind of women she was Chinese women who this is who this is Betty McCord al ruddy secretary and you're asking who and how what what would attract him got it so so I got my 16 millimeter real a film that I shot and I got the book cover and I wrapped it and I got my Chinese chick I had a find one it was easy in Vegas I went to the Tropicana Hotel and the line had every girl in the world I found this little Chinese girl I paid her a thousand Thomas which is a lot of money but I had so much cash I'd say that get rid of cash at that time I said three days drive-in rest I bought her a wet look this material looked like leather but it wasn't made her little uniform to match my car and that I had Betty macaw it arranged communicator drive on I didn't want to left at the gate I said I want to drive on for her to come here Sal arranged it so we had it all planned so and I made her give me blow by blow by blow I was down the street and so she pulls onto the lot and when she pulls up to rut his building he was looking at he said why cuz they already told him this car is great to see this chick come to your office he there's no clue no he didn't even know he had she's delivering and then she delivers this to him they talked for a brief minute and it leaves unbeknownst to me my test was shot on Aerith Lex film 16 millimeter camera with a mag stripe that's before tape before all that and I bought old film so it had a sepia look the color was destroyed but unbeknownst to me Francis Ford Coppola was trying to convince Panama to shoot the whole movie in the sepia look antique look so wasn't like test that they liked they were sending it all around to see that's what it should be so now they send me a letter because I read in the newspaper that they were going to use unknowns like so many people said they were gonna hunt this guy to the end and it was all false and they sent me a nice letter saying we're sorry we misled you obviously you went to a lot of expense to make your test whether using actors I saw so now I knew that Columbo was using this book as as the footstone to peel everything about Italian Americans how they've shown in this con he's gonna ban this movie got it and he had a big rally I mean thousands and thousands of people showed up at Columbus Circle to pick it and he was picking the FBI boat and they called him in can't being on the sentence understand one thing you're a head of a family you don't pick the P up for you I tell them they say you better stop with all this bullshit like so many other Dawn's as we go through life as I did got out of water so I somehow or other said how am I gonna get their attention and I didn't have to do it at that I I was a planning to do something some idiots on the west coast Italian Americans we're gonna show Joe their support they blew up the gates of Melrose a paramount they're 20 feet off they blew it up boom up on Sunday morning they were laying on the streets so this is my opportunity so I called Benny Makar I said Benny what's happening she's all over the know she's yeah ice is a whiz ruddy or he's never leavin to go to New York Bobby Evans Stanley Jaffe and they all flew to New York they said that we gotta stop this they took these people gotta kill him it was an idiot that did that so I took the advantage I got on a red-eye I flew there and at the Gulf and Western building which is Trump now I'm there sitting there and the only reason they knew me they all saw my test so I'm sitting in the bench of the lobby and Ronnie looks to me says Jenny ruse us yeah so what are you doing I said we've got a problem I think I could straighten it who would have no problem iStopMotion me on you got a problem so he went upstairs I don't know if he was going up to call the FBI called New York I didn't know what he was gonna do they come down about half hour late and I go up everybody's in the room and they said what do you know about what's going on here I smell the world knows what's going on it Italians are not gonna make me make this movie unless you do the right thing and what's that ice well I know and I didn't know I was bullshit I know what's bothering them and I think if we straighten that out they'll let you make the movie if without them you're not gonna get the union cooperation not getting any locations and this was already when Francis was doing tests they had a cinema will heal and they would have a Mulberry Street they went it to lunch they stole the truck it was like 2,000 I was right the chemical they just took it while to let them know you don't come to our neighbor without permission so they really knew this is not just bullshit and by the bunch of button but the budget by the way was well like a five million dollars he asked for and he wanted eighty three days they give him like 50 something days no what's crazy how you gonna get that done well we did it well then they started when they started seeing the dailies when we're getting ahead of ourselves so what happened so I now go down the street because the league had an office on Madison Avenue and this young attorney who stole my attorney bearish logic he was easier local yeah absolutely I've got a great guy and he under yourself he was really well-known mob attorney as he grew but there's a young kid at the time so I go to the league and that Joe didn't come in yet so I go to Brooklyn see Joe I said Joe cuz it was selling a buck above that's how they were raising money Italian flagging him a buck so I see - I see Joe this movie Keuka make a lot of money it sounds I gotta make money with this I said if you sit with them I could arrange a meeting bring Barry with us let him read the book whatever you don't like let him straighten it out so how do I make money I saw I'm gonna arrange a 90's paramount like this I said I'm gonna arrange me to get the world premiere in every major city the night before it opens as you could sell tickets $400 on a $50 you could arrange for that I said I didn't know if I could uh so now I go back decide set up the meeting that's what's good for you let's do 10 o'clock tomorrow that's okay so I go up there I know they all know the book they won't come together and I said I arranged a sit-down for you they said what I says you never sit down do we leave anyway so no they could come here tomorrow ten o'clock in the morning so I told Joyce and bring people will say broke mine arrested Chico when he brought a crew it was like the original cast for the cut they committed so now I just spoke to Joe I'm down the lobby I'm gonna bring him up there third third floor I should do one thing we get this on I play Michael and Sonya call no problem so we go out they talk back and forth this time the other and they brought off certain points that then they like being referred to as guineas and Robson this they don't want to be used they go they don't want those were there anyone of that gonna be used anyways in the script Oreo is old it was supposed to and then one guy was so funny though interesting she's funny with good job bad boy I have to being that you brought it up I was the only one that used clean it up you Guinea brat that I shot that scene awake after Colombo got shot cuz come on Mike I said clean it up gotta say what I said she was a Kenny Brad that's what we used to say in the neighborhood you know it's like black people call themselves whatever they call themselves we called ourselves Guinea he didn't want it in the book so I used to ride away everybody went crazy I said don't worry buddy you just got shot he ain't gonna say nothing so now we have this meeting and they resolve it they said we're gonna read it we'll take out what you want they shake hands and that's together the hammer everything's happening he's gonna get the world for me is so they will stay getting up I'd say go Joe what about me you look around he goes like this everybody said like he was God everybody sat down is what are we gonna do for my boy here they saw we're gonna give a part I said no no no no I said you do I play Michael's son your call so they said well this is a news to a lot of people in your audience they said we already cast Sonny its carmine Caridi he's a Broadway play man for my mantra big guy and James Caan is playing Michael I so who's playing call they said number had some playing caller they looked at each other and Joe says he's playing Carlo and that was it so then they played another game on me it's have your agent call ice I got no agent you don't have an agent no he says are you in the Union us you know i so don't worry about i did my homework this is a tap hot least a right-to-work state you give me the letter I'll go joining you you know they gave me let Iran over I play caller you changed my life Wow 50 years I mean not all partners with vikon that's crazy so that's pretty well to think about that so you've never acted before Godfather never done a movie by I'm a born actor but I never but but but I'm talking like oh you should know nothing nothing so you closed and sold yourself into it yeah now let me ask you let's go prior to that cuz now I wanted to go to this part how you got it and then we're gonna get tuna Marlon Marlon Brando this stories let's go prior to this so who were you in high school you and I are in high school I know where the high school you didn't want to high school when I got out of Bellevue I hit the streets I was a gimp yet see what they did was I had an incident I don't forget it to that now I had an incident in the hospital then they moved me from the polio ward let's talk about that listen the insane war I went upstairs for 72 hours observation but talk about that talked about the fact on you know you're seven years old what happened there just prior to me going to Bellevue and being quarantined my mom I got up like my father's old school time so I had two older sisters we're living in a two-bedroom flat down on Mulberry Street so my sisters had a room my mother father had that room so where they're gonna put me is they had a utility closet which they cleaned out they put a youth mattress on the floor and why I think I get away with a lot of things we had a five-gallon kerosene thing that they used to put to fuel the heat in the house and every five minutes a boom in the stench of kerosene I think I'm brain damaged so today I'm gonna use that sometime in a case so I was there and the only way to get out of that bed was on the left side so one morning I got up I couldn't get out I had no feeling I'm all of a sudden what how are you at the tenants I was just seven seven and you know nothing so I call my mother and remind my father was still home yet he started all while giving some ask me to be alright you know maybe he's got a cramp you know so my father being the mother as she was at the time took me to a clinic down the block named you know I don't know what they're talking about you know like I hear that kid at that year when paying attention to that then the next morning the bell rings early and I hear my mother crying and I thought my mother and father had another fight they were always fighting and - ambulance guys are there and they came for me because they did the blood war command polio and everybody was so frightened but polio in America at that time this late-teen 49 people were dying thousands of people they thought it was the war and they showed up mobile fountains they fire hydrants everything no swimming pools because they didn't know how to control was that contagious Wow and then I was a part of Jonas Salk's vaccine experiments and that was the screw-up at first too and I was already going to church everyday with my grandmother so and I'm saying to garden why didn't you do this to me God I mean I I mean I can cry about it now girls they took me I had it here I couldn't believe it man and you're seven years old and they brought a small stretch upstairs because we were a little tenement and they could be one stretch thank God so the guy put his arms underneath my arms and that might try to hold my mother's hand they carry me down these steps they put me ambulance so now I go to the hospital and I'm begging my mother if she had assigned me in please don't leave me so I'm not gonna leave you I didn't want to say the nurses with callous or not sense it but that's what they do they weren't worried about me and I'm praying saying it they've say that my patron saint hmm and after about a half hour paperwork we went upstairs and I remember I was on the gurney they slapped me in my mother took all my clothes they put me in a gown and then my mother's holding my hand and the nurse said you have to let his hand go I said what do you mean no your mother can't go here and I looked up and I saw the biggest word in my life quarantined across the door you remember that vividly oh yeah I didn't know what it said but I saw there's not like Exeter's like stop quarantine unit that was it I went in there for five years five years did you see how I okay my mom and dad never what do you mean never every dollar to visit five years I guess would you see for five years nobody I saw twenty kids in the ward you son nobody for five years nobody no family no family first of all I think it got to be that my father want to come anyway because you know he's that kind of guy but my mother but I I saw even the other kids never had business but for the first three or four and that was in August and my birthday's in December but I'm about to tell you is probably one of the reasons I'm alive today there's two reasons one was Dolores blown she was the candy striper when she got there she was calling Gambino's nice and he told her there's a kid from the neighborhood make sure you're watching they will always watch me I didn't know it because of you know our relationship in Sicily and all that your uncle was a Khmer - who - yeah now with the game being us from connected to that ya know they the other way are they all the way around they sent those guys here because the real real power is in Sicily so listen yeah still live yeah love it so what happened was she would bring me the jello and you the you know hug at night but now my birthday was coming to send the 12th I think maybe they'll surprise me they'll come nobody came I was hysterical I meant you know seven years old just turning eight that December and I heard on the radio this consent very absorbent that's how my life's cycles go I heard on the radio WN e w said today is Frank Sinatra's birthday chairman of the board Hoboken italian-american and little skinny kid I was skinny and I related to this guy I told Sinatra that story at the Copa four or five years later I was 16 so maybe a little more than that I told the story started crying I saw so not to cry twice in his life personally that day and I was backstage between shows at Caesar's Palace when his mother's plane was his plane but it was missing that she was supposed to be the second show the tables chairs were there and he's not a religious guy and at the end of the first show he said I'd like you all if you would please whatever your religious beliefs are pray for my mother she's supposed to be sitting here worried because they didn't want to tell him the plane had a mountain which is ironic because when he abused the Martin later on Deans son hit the same mountain get out of here same mountain ken how did you know that weird Wow I was like but and I became close to Frank with that you know because of that phone for seven for seven to twelve you don't see your parents five years they rain that's that's an eternity that's an eternity I don't watch how do you do day to do anything anybody else did if you were to get out what happens though when I got out I went back to the neighborhood the only thing I knew you know then the parallels even went round we'll get into it later that's how her and I connected she was in an orphanage in in the valley yeah looking at water brother studio and she said something gonna be as an actress and I when I finally got the bed the window with the bed like maybe took two years to get to that window and I finally saw what uptown was I'm 133 but I'm still looking up I only saw a little Italy the neighborhood is crazy and that was my goal I'm gonna be up here I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do I'm gonna be Sinatra now I had Sinatra I mean how ironic is that Sinatra was my only singing teacher and he wind up baptized by less on the channel crazy and you end up singing yourself you become a singer yourself you perform for a bunch of events oh my god you won awards of who you you know what Awards the gym you weren't like a six you said six oh why not not be singing though I was producing no producing yeah but you've been singing a trumpet would put parties here you would ask what's wrong little finger on e for me yeah I mean yeah I opened Trump marina but let's go back to twelve so did you see your parents post twelve did you go back and live with your parents don't know no I used to go visit them I didn't I knew I couldn't be there my father was always abusive I mean there was times my father I could my father has a young kid yeah if I went to a school told me and you see me on the street if I don't acknowledge don't say Wow cuz he was a player you want to be pick up girls you know why nobody you know he had three kids he was real bull a red shirt until he died that's who he was and he always abused my mother and but you know I to me I was I wasn't bitter at them I was sad that they didn't have the courage I mean you try to take one of my kids I got a lot of kids I got 11 kids take one of my kids I'll grab that kid go to Canada you know like so many people didn't during the draft you don't take a kid and it's opening or go look what I am tonight thank God yeah no doubt about it sometimes you you hear these that yeah that's what I think I think there's a big part of it where the bigger the pain the bigger the upset you could have gone either way by the way it was dead yeah I was younger I want to become an assassin I was so bitter so but but that's the part because you have it you have an aspect of your life that is linked to the mob a big part of it life that's linked to the mob and then the other side is entertainment right I go to Delancey Street one day and I see this new invention called ballpoint pens you don't need ink anymore hmm and the stores ten feet one so I go in the store and there's the main there and I should you the owner Stice yeah and they introduce myself and he said I'm Mr Rabinowitz I said Mr Rabinowitz I got I got something I think he's gonna love it I said what's that he says I'm gonna become your partner and he looked at me and he calls his brother Leo Kabhi I want you to meet our new partner he's playing with with a heavy Jewish accident and I said I'm serious and so are you gonna be my partner tell me tell me I said you're selling ballpoint pens yeah I said well I'm gonna experience your business it's how you're gonna do that I see you're here you got ten feet 200 feet wide I said you should be selling spaghetti not ballpoint pens so he said very funny how you gonna do this I said you're gonna give me 50 pen if I give nobody nothing dude are you giving I said listen to me please I'll take take you ain't taking that's all right I'll leave here with 50 pence tomorrow and you come if 20 a missile I pay for them give me the 50 again I'll do that every day is how do I know you come back I said my grandfather told me look me in the eye give me a word and shake his hand that's it that's all you need in life he's a grandfather smile man he gave me depends then I asked because I've seen one I didn't have went to office space them and I saw they got paid paychecks I walked to the bank and they filling up my lungs come on man Pinto was full on a board I knew he was a marine Midland Bank so I go in I said when does the paydays here you saw we have to stagger them cuz a pain in cash I said would you give me the list of when you're paying who is why you wanna rob my Snow White's that I have an idea cuz I wanted to go but you got your humble up let me show up 15 minutes later hmm you had all this time means yeah so it got to be much would buy that I'd walk into this place I knew this schedule every day I was somewhere else but then it got to be they just open the drawer they had typewriter a small port been said okay don't want no more so I came out I was disappointed and it did you know all the train stations are still the same some on Broadway and canal and ICN and awe and says uptown I always wonder go uptown from the hospital I'll go it up so I got off of 59th Street and Fifth Avenue and I made that my stop I stood outside and Sharon Ellen and self-doubt van cleef and arpel i have this gimp um i was starting to pull it into my truck because it was growing too fast my little cigar box but I didn't take the typewriter braces just these little drew pencil ever coming out everybody would come by give me a dollar you know and I saw to me as a kid I you look at everybody I said everything is Sunday here cuz I used to talk to the doorman is what do you mean as everybody has this Sunday best on because they all dressed to the nines my neighbor nobody interested maybe Sunday to go to church that's how I met Costello you started walking down used to cost town every day he lived on the west side that's how you go connect and he walk down 59th Street come to Fifth Avenue go into the sherry Netherlands go showing come back out that's how I got to see him and then you touch my shoulder this is kid what are you doing here I said I'm selling bends you looked at bend over the cigar box you throw a dollar in $5 take a bath this one on for a couple of months there one day maybe had more time you always had somebody or two guys will and he says to me what's your name I told my name he says you're Italian as hell his ruse always yeah this is who's Angelo Russo to you was Angela listen my uncle he's Angela no she's your uncle I said yeah why his when's the last time you saw I say never so I said there hung him in London for in 1948 and he looked at Blackie not renewing the guy's a name now he says this guy's telling truth I said on why I said I take offense to that and he looked at me he says you know whether the world of klunkins everybody knows where there's in the lobby in a walled-off I'm fucking you he's bday tomorrow at 11 o'clock it's okay and he said Blackie take that cigar box home you never do this again I don't want to see you banging on the street gave me two $100 bills I was with that rental 1873 till he died and I couldn't go to the scheudle because they had a warrant out for my arrest so I went to the school across the street he was it was buried up on 86th feet and park every Campbell's the big everybody gets buried out of there but I had to show my respect then I called his wife that night and I described what she said where why you and then she said I shouldn't even ask you that cuz she knew they were looking for me I said I just want to let you know you look gorgeous today my respects I've been praying for him and I was in that's how long I was with this guy would you learn and that and that appear oh my god I mean you you you've met every single mob boss in the US right all of them well not only that at the time unbeknownst to me I was a kid I was just a messenger and you know he'd give me Alma Lopes go here go there first I was in stayed in the city for about two or three years I used to go to the support minute this do is 24 phone writers here blackboards data counting room here and then I picked up here at the end of the day that I make all my stops sherry Netherlands Hotel the Plaza Hotel all the hotels all the barber shops is where they took the numbers and the boss bets I would take them and not taking to the Wyndham Hotel on 58th Street and every day I'd go to insert the elevator top floor go there and they had people out there and I'd go in I mean it was like a bank everybody advises was count who's doing this so I thought I was being cute then I he'd go to dinner every night mm-hmm and if he needed me this before cellphones they know how to get in touch with me and I'd come back and I did errands for him at night he went to dinner every night Oh mr. Costello this guy thank God it was him and not some crazy like the John Gotti or somebody this guy was a gentleman of a gentleman here we never know he was in the moment that's why when Vito Genovese came out and he wanted his family back Frank couldn't be happier to give it to him because Meyer Lansky and the ALF in Chicago all over the world put to sin to get together and that's but became now it's the power that's why Godfather - when Hyman Roth who was my olanski in the old mm-hmm he said we're gonna be bigger than you were steel and they were they were doing 10 man a week Shh it was insane the money yet and the buildings I mean the buildings that here well you know he owned 11 Wall Street I mean him and Joe Kennedy during Prohibition they said they made 50 manage Wow that's a law but how I met all the people are you same the waldorf-astoria after the appellation crime can move that whole raid mm-hmm they never did that again so they had their lawyers say where can we meet we gotta meet they all took hotel rooms in that hotel I was busy that casually bump into you every mob film I met every guy and I was always the kid always clean and he gave me money he's gotta clean up that outfit ice whatever you want me to do he'd give me like $300 go buy clothes I'd buy enough and give him 200 back I don't know if he was testing me I never abused I was rhythm oh then he said in 1959 so where you start going to Vegas for me it's okay whatever you want me to do I always went by TWA I didn't know they had how use and I will use them anyway that's another completely different angle my story but no you were asking all the time you were around them all the time all the time all the time only is the kid people say what's that name is the kid the way being left I know his name well you never actually went in and joined them up no never never they added Sicily so hands are off that kid a lot of people he'll I mean I got so close to the people of Chicago Tony Accardo I love Tony Accardo we made a lot of a lot of business death and I'm still friends I'm going to Chicago all the time now did you ever hear a guy called Frank Nitti no he was with with Capone Frank Nitti was big legend well you know too young his son Nick Nettie and I were partners for years mhm we would do a lot of laundering of money through the Vatican which hundreds of my men money and you can't even believe on much money now his son John Nettie is with me now his son it's so crazy with three generations and Nittis but in my book this picture was nobody has his pictures of Tony Accardo Nick Nettie and I at the trivia film before going to Vatican nobody that's these figs that's so insane because you say oh this is so far-fetched and then there's a photograph and then there's our there this is public that's it how do you get this vote aggressive crazy and that's before everybody has a camera there and they follow now I've been blessed I mean it's so crazy there's a lot of stories about me of people I killed and all that there's always self-defense so how did you get connected with Marilyn Monroe where did that connection take place well that's funny as the years progressed it was like 15 and I got caught a couple of times on the street I could do my collections and a truant officer came up to me was like May of that year and he says come over here yes sir is why should school at school I don't go to school I maybe like 10 grand in my pocket from clicking everything and I've said he might not know this guy clicks his money I how am I gonna tell Frank so I'm being very polite he said well you've got to go to school okay so he saw he's writing me a ticket he's what your mother follows men and about the address 1 to 1 Mulberry Street did you give this to your parents if they don't turn the sin within the next 10 days we're gonna come left you know butcher juvie that's juvie Wentz juvie juvenile home I said ok so now I'm going to to choice I dropped the money off the Windham when I go to church that's why go because they let me in me right Joe DiMaggio's at the ball everybody's there Jackie Gleason Jackie Gleason used to film at CBS student right now we ever oh this guy a Colbert show mm-hmm everybody's been there and I used to go over there I'm everybody knew me so I used to see Gleason all the time and he was fun I mean I had fun where all these guys synoptic they used to drink martinis like to look like me after all day so I go there and it comes Costello he sounds everything you look a little down I said I swear that guy gave me a ticket he looked at the ticket at 11:00 he's just think if you were ticket he's your makeup walk one day they met him I said no he said let me straighten it eyes you couldn't straighten I said I knew what she said so the next day when I go to meet him all the time you see me I just enrolled you in the school I saw the water go to school just don't worry about it you're gonna go to Willford Academy it's on top of Lindy's right on Broadway between 52nd and 53rd Street you should go there and just check in it's doing it's all covered so I go yeah check in I had a meeting o'clock in one I didn't have to start anything with him until you have to know so the girl shows me know what I liked about it was all fucking broads of it so I got my little schmuck you know I think and they teach rather scrubby and all that I didn't give a shit about any of that Wally's bronze I said this is like a candy stuff for me to get it and I had all the money in the world I'm making dates cuz I'm gonna cooperate any time I want I just told L carmine I took them every day they couldn't even drink that soda they give me give me booze they didn't care but I was dating these people things of coppa seeing Sinatra I have it made and then I got close to the lady says you know you don't have to come here every day I smile just come for a couple of hours take it cuz and I did that and then walks and Claire it was a colorist for L'Oreal us one of those become his and Kenneth and Kenneth he may know the name now became Jackie O's hairdresser and she opened a shop called Kenneth's in New York but they were working at Lille - a on 56th Street and Park Avenue which every society bird in the world so they came up they were looking for shampoo boys and me I'm a clean freak like Paula type beef like that is a mine in my shirt my uniforms I do a my oh shit never touch my clothes I mom I always starts so she like these two Guardians came in they saw me and they finger all this guy this piece of candy and they said you come with us I said whatever they say buddy and the good news why I wanted to go because it's the last hundred hours would that count I can work and get paid in tips and the last hundred hours goes to me graduated they didn't know I think you I didn't want to graduate soon as I was December 12 came I'm sixteen see you later with this infinite do and all that as you would be the fourth hinder harem Chapel you'd stand at attention the stairs was a hot she was a haberdasher one of the most famous Lily - hmm the second floor was the salon so I'd stand there and then they'd call me they'd give me a card say go to room 4 never give you the lady saying what she led to rinse there's they taught you even their procedure doll that I go into the shampoo basin it's a little room private it's Marilyn Monroe now I just finished watching Mount Monroe at the New York pamorah because when it was cold at night and I was in at the bakery I go to the movie theater well the 24 hours a day and I had everybody knew me they gave me free popcorn I'm watching my own Monroe and some like it hot I must have masturbated 15 times understood it we all wore dog food why not she was on the cover of the first Playboy magazine I know that she was she was she was amazing so now that's about Monroe I pulled the drape I don't know how long I was looking at her but she said is this someone any I said excuse me of ladies and I had to go through the procedures they you know about the touching there the water on her wrist is that the right temperature and she's laying there like spread-eagle what I hadn't shown that had baby you know yeah we all know and she had this the smock on but a legs I wound up saving myself I can't believe this so now I stopped massaging a hair and she's moaning and she's more now my mind's going crazy I get an erection I must be pokin or Amelia because she's there my three-piece sets on my shoulder that she started requesting me then like Christmas comes Costello says to me this weekend don't make any plans I said why he's we're gonna put my own Monroe in the world off you know she is yeah I know I'm downstairs with him I'm been in the building they hid her out here for a year look if you know that Marilyn Monroe came here for one year in New York when she was having problems with Darryl zanuck and all the list everybody was abusing her so she came in and they loved her and I went yeah like he told me to go I was there I brought my how stupid I was I brought my little shampoo kid I just gonna watch it so obvious she comes out with this robe on I mean she was gorgeous I mean today's world she'd be voluptuous so we're talking have a son waiting for the same when we're gonna wash it yeah because I saw a robot it's victory kind of you know which throw it out and I didn't know what else was but he just said they wouldn't but I didn't know she wasn't going to win so then she ordered room service I never know what room service was I'm in this room do you understand I'm 16 you are 16 years old 16 just 16 actually this would maybe like January your blood is sponsored by cialis at that time on your legs I'll be a bleed bike you know a Viagra but that's what got to Slade II crazy cuz now she said you haven't you like champagne ice I never had champagne nicely thinking me little drinks seven and seven at the Copa when I was you know but now she's got room service and I'm here I am but sitting there I'm said what's up my friends can't let you see me look at this I got on the road it's true she said let's go take a bath I said you want me to take a bath right it's just yeah come on so she gets to the drop and she just drops her a rope it walks like another ten feet gets to the top she got the bottle champagne two glasses women so I go yeah I couldn't get my pants now my dick was so big it's like everyone gonna get over this thing and she's so much attraction she said like yeah and I go like you need it I said at the end to the top I was gonna take anything for granted but there was no way I had nothing to light it with so I'm sitting in the tub talking about everything in the world I don't where to insult the lady and she starts playing with me we drinking champagne long story short I left Monday morning to go to see him downstairs and he's looking at me he says you didn't want to ask he said two gentlemen you've been here all this wine since you told me to stay we could have went home and slept that was the weekend that's the weekend a minute that's that maybe the weekend of 99.9% of sixteen-year-old boys in the world that's like a fantasy right I could you know I couldn't even tell anybody the only person I ever told about that and it came out later got too much respect for women to begin with spin forward I'm wit Marlon Brando and we're talking whatever every night now him and I he loves me you Ian stay where we all stayed I had this apartment I stood at the Park Lane because I wanted the collabro coming out every morning with paparazzi obviously that a bigger room here but I want the media so I used to go to the ELA zai hotel that's where he was staying he liked the monkey bar it's the live and which they have all night long this guy is nuts because we had cool you never we different call times 2 o'clock 3 o'clock whatever and we're talking about my own woman oh he loved him a big affair I don't know we shed the fair with everybody especially when she was going to Stella Adler here a great thespian teacher but he says to me too bad you were never at Marilyn Monroe and I looked at me said what was that look I said I don't know he's your Marilyn I said yeah I mean being you're talking about I'll talk to you about it I was with him this is I think you're lying it's okay you should tell me something that nobody would know about well it's okay over her right leg right and bright in this cleavage she has a scar he says you fuck your with him and I bonded up with that he's so crazy but I was told to go to count Eva three or four years later they commissioned Marilyn to go to him and I don't know what's going on I found out later said to get everybody obviously John F Kennedy I was hanging out with Senator John F Kennedy for years when he came to the Sands Hotel I watched him do lines of cocaine offered Juliet Prowse his stomach he never saw a lady with a shaved pussy that was big thing enjoy your browser Ava God every night that were in that pool I mean Ava Gardner did everybody guys girls monkeys anything she gives she was nuts so when I was just always allowed to be anywhere I wanted to beat up that was Jack and trotta's building they built us on the property to Sands Hotel as old swimming pool you know waltz around how is he how is that was hell is Jack Jack was a great guy I met him here earlier then they shipped him down the Vegas when they opened the Copa room mmm and that's when Jules Modell to ran this for a while but comma and always ran that but Jack was a great guy great guy easygoing bond oh no Hardy guy and he and see that what I can't hey I wasn't realizing what they were doing that time they were equalizing the syndicate with juice they'd want to put Italians in those deal semen and again I don't know I never segregated myself of being a gangster if I'm Italian but they were that smart that's why Costello called himself Costello he wanted to be Irish he never used his name because when he took over Tammany Hall a nice Irish guy you don't know what he was a big guy but you know but that's what they were doing man they interesting they had more Jewish beards we'd call them to run stuff and that was Maya Mira's a genius why engage every remote dateless no but I did sit down with Oscar Goodman oh I love uh you know Oscar you know he has stories and a half ask him who controlled the mob business Malhotra Tony Spilotro yeah Oscar Goodman right to this day okay you told you tell Oscar you talk to me I'm gonna ask her just hired me for April 16th to degree your mob museum about my book it's the 50th anniversary - Godfather real book I'm going there I love Oscar Oscar and I go win another entertaining guy I saw and a character I shot two movies in Vegas he had to be in each one he had to be here he played the mayor of Vegas when I had an Ed McMahon McMahon and McMahon was the governor in my movie and he was he made himself I love him he was a casino he was in casinos and he was totally yeah I was saying with Oscar Goodman is he had a lot of things to say about the Lansky and the influence he had in Vegas oh my god and what he did through moe oh yeah he dissed daily choices man that's that that's exactly it that the amount of influence he had to create Vegas into what it is and they went through Bugsy because a lot of people think it's Bugsy it's Lansky who had the info used Bugsy as the frontman yeah and why bugs you got not I mean I know they got a shot Bugsy they were Beverly Hills marksmen shadows through the window right through to your eye that's where they got that thing in The Godfather be modalys I mean mo green mm-hmm that was pucks he was supposed to date three million dollars went south with all that construction and everybody wanted to know why and then when he opened he had opens her a flop you doughnut they made no money but the the foresight that they had you see your took a wrong guy about Vegas I know everything about Vegas we had a club there was seven years old before that Frank Costello and Joe Kennedy on the Tropicana Hotel I had the biggest nightclub in that way before my club called Tiffany's I had Elvis Presley open it for me Elvis Presley when you pinch Sammy Davis jr. opened my club Tiffany's in the Tropicana what here was a Jesus I don't even know like 69 how was Elvis I love Ellen others not stuck what's this but how different was he then everybody else was he unique in his own way why he was just unique for who he was I mean this guy was statue ash I mean I mean I've seen him I had the privilege of see because but my friends Alex oofy and all of them and you know Kirk Kerkorian of course welcome Curt opened the hotel yeah but belong before the M Jim he opened the international opening week fourth of July weekend first two weeks Barbara Spicer second two weeks Elvis Presley it's two shows a night no Kurt Kurt and I were like this we get a money I'm a with him he had the only show room that's at 1,500 people everybody said you're nuts The Sands Hotel for the people 1,500 with a balcony what happened with your falling-out with Sinatra you had a so-so what when you're about to do Godfather he called you right don't call him 80 what was that all about oh he was nuts I mean I did so many things with this guy I could tell you stories about him forever but he calls me up Dorothy calls me says the old man wants to talk to you so I get on the phone he said he got cast in the godfathers yeah he says to me you're a friend of mine - of course Frank he said I don't want you to do the movie I said what is I didn't really don't want you to do it you can't do it okay but I just spawned eight is I saw okay no hung up I'm saying myself see fucking nuts so I waited a couple of days and I played the game on him called Dorothy assits could I talk to you a minute get on the phone he started the conversation I'm so happy we're turning that movie down that's kanesha one question you're a friend of mine right I saw his dialog right back at him yeah I second I actually questioned if I asked you not to do here to eternity would you have done it and he hung up on me because he knew where I was going fuck you know it took me for three years who cares for you he tried to eat them one time could get stupid you know he's bad if you have a temper bad drunk temper okay she's one of those kind of guys hold me back hold me back in there's nobody hold him and he's gonna get his ass kicked I'm in the gallery in bar one night and he's drunk like 3 o'clock in the morning and I told me something that I could pay attention to move so yeah I mean I don't have to pay attention nobody I respect everybody but don't call me a kid you all walk ain't a fucking cab so I go on and he says you know when I tell you to come here I said scuse me as you can't talk to me that was he looks at jelly I put Julian a graver two minutes so he raised his hand like he's gonna smack me I grabbed his a little skinny young guys let me tell yourself this is a warning next time you raise your hand I'm gonna rip off your arm and shove up your ass and he looked at Chile's is Frank cuz you can't I mean I'm a lovable person I'm not a tough guy don't treat me like I'm some bar rag cuz you're Frank Sinatra I won't Eliot that's one thing I would never let anybody know that's why I've gotten some trouble sometimes but I had enough people to take care of though you had a falling out with him again afterwards though I had a lot of what was it what happened with him in Marilyn Monroe there's oh my god something about that was in America gal Eva yeah when he had me you were kind of a you know the whole story was about to come out Marilyn was gonna come on and talk about the Kennedys what happened there what happened there was that Kennedy's never kept their end of the bargain when Joe Kennedy went to Frank Costello and he said well my son had become president I need your help so they all got together Cokie Civello with the Teamsters out in Kansas see every mob I was traveling all over the place and I loved it Bianca hmm I bring this message that message this message and obviously primaries coming they still realized they don't have enough votes they had all the culinary vote all the international all showman with the Anastasia Marcellus of New Orleans you name every union Brotherhood Teamsters everybody and the thing was he becomes president we're gonna invade Cuba and give you all your casinos back was a win-win and everybody went for it so now the guy becomes president John's mistake was he made his brother Robert attorney General Robert hated his father his brothers when he stood for Robert was the baby he was mama's boy Joe Kenny I could tell you stories budget you would not believe now all those boys had to have a blowjob in the house when they were 16 he'd bring people in and given blowjob make him bet he got to be a man this game is crazy I heard some stories about him always crazy he I know nobody knew better than Costello because they were partners during Prohibition uh-huh so they were partners so what happens he makes a maternity general no invasion Cuba he said there's no missiles they're loving this so they're waiting they got nothing then I mean I meant Marcello's house in the walls because he knew their family things like you're like good there's one thing about me you invited me I show up see we're gonna have this big barbecue I go they read it's a backyard Oh US Marshals with Bobby Kennedy and they were arresting him they deport him and he told them right then and there he says you're dead it's oh now you're threatening you or some Washington he threatened I'm killing you your dad just like that they took a lot of income and farmers grandchildren and everybody that's what kind of crazy he wasn't gone a week that I was on another trip to Hollywood so then what happened woman Rome when Rose announcer commissioned to go to Catalina Ken and so was Joe Kennedy Bobby and job of course they weren't getting what they wanted so they were gonna set up my own Munroe we're Bobby and John one more time because they don't love fucking her and they were gonna film it like they did with James remover they had jr. over in that block over the years so now cuz he was a crossdresser they set up the party yep so they're gonna do the same thing now mmm they had Marilyn think I didn't like and I was with Frank my pictures that pictures around that pool with Sinatra laying there another singer he was just up there plan and but Sam Giancana was there everybody was there and they were doing it Sam's crazy I love Sam but they had house so strung out that you know where she was because she hated she's so in love with John Johnson became president who's gonna leave Jackie Mary off ah are you crazy then she found with Bobby so they thought and they had the room or rigna with the sophistication we had today but they had it John don't show doesn't show yeah business couldn't come so at least they said let's get Bob inna cuz he's the one busting balls let's get Bobby Bobby and her have an conversation unbeknownst to everybody he says fuck you I'm going your brother you and I'm going to public they didn't know that she said that she calls Joe DiMaggio in San Francisco Joe come and get me I got to get out of here cuz she will fucked up Joe makes the mistaken call Sinatra what's going on there Frank he's mining business don't come here in Hong Kong if Jay married at that time they were divorced they were divorce but if Joe came who knows she may still be alive or next to home but no he didn't come Bobby leaves everybody leaves she leaves in a half two days later she's dead two days later no overdose she died of oxygen it's why I laugh they're gonna exhume her body same I mean I know so many people I know the guy who does it they have a guy and you're for hope me an organ and she had pubic hair so they kept pumping oxygen throughout for over here on the tushy that's it had an aneurysm Wow then they threw all this growth which added up builds it or anyway how certain are you of this story like how I'll bet on all my kids are you crazy you've been I would never say that I know what I knew who they sent in this guy works for everybody this guy worked for everybody the government this it was attacked it was thought he was a trained trained doctor no they used him a couple of times is it named public no he is so respected with everybody everybody used them CIA is Omar museum how about Great Britain used once Khrushchev used to this comes in the world yes oh yeah he was the master lives in Switzerland so popes that he been didn't you and Frank still have a relationship oh yeah at the end over here we come back you obese we're just gonna go he knows he's wrong he thinks he's Caesar you know the funniest story I'll tell you that the last time I saw him was right down the block Jimmy West involved John Gotti he's at Radio City Music Hall he's calling the wall of Jonas on some of his people he wanted 10 tickets from Sailaja John Kennedy tickets he wants a New York he didn't need so that's just as possible nobody's calling we're in Jimmy Weston's I really didn't want to go cuz I mean I like those guys but I'm not that guy that goes has dinner with them the certain people I'll go with John was out of control already he didn't like me so I said Jojo why do I want to go Joe was trying to make amends all the time I made him I didn't want to be bothered with so now we're sitting at the front there was a little culvert the old Jimmy westerns go down steps is old sofa so we're sitting here John liked to sit there go look at the bar and the birds and all that this dumb stupid waiter comes from behind John you're not gonna believe this in the back Frank Sinatra Don Rickles with their wives and I could see John's whole demeanor change and he's whispered to Joe watching his ear next thing you know the waiter comes with two bottles of Cristal from Sinatra to John which is the biggest insult in the world and that's while John drank you know when he was out why is that the biggest insult because you oh it's my cause they want to buy me booze I don't need your booze so he says to Joe take those two boughs and go show him up his ass now you can tell Joe Joe's very loyal so Joe pick the bottles drag the bull off and walk back there and I'm sighs slide down to my seat I don't know man so now picture this table Sinatra Barbara Marx Don Rickles and his wife so as we hear the story later Joe goes back to it to two pounds puts them on the table is what's that about this is get up come on destroy the kids so Celeste and he looks at Jilly Joe without looking at Jilly like what you're saying with the bottle crack some guys down full bottle of Cristal you get dead Joe it's 207 pounds done Don Rickles pisses and shits his pants are you gonna be serious he wouldn't show it's like the ODE of the stitch what's ridiculous so he comes back and people are running out because first of all they see what's going on everybody's running outs of John sitting there like Jose do that and then you smell off of that they couldn't do it everybody win I mean Don Rickles and while you hear about that but he literally did it right then in that I mean Joe's a scary guy you ever see job no look him up now Joe and I were together since we're 14 I had was he just as tough at 14 as he you know later on he got worse I feel bad because he always saw me and I know him and he said I want to get it too what you Tyson can do you know I'm not doing anything believe me he's well and then Maddie the horse owned all the nightclubs up here the peppermint lounge and all that and he knew he was being robbed so in a conversation there was a conversation envelopes had to go out to people you didn't have those clubs and they say what's the we're a little idea well I don't know what's going on so he wanted a non-italian because he figured if you knew Italians they're gonna know who the guy is so Joe Watts was fresh Joe to German but big so he put him on the door and in a week two weekends three weekends Joey knew everybody that was Robin so Maddie you know many of us are mmm Maddy to us and Manny and yelling he owned Umberto's with Joe gallo got killed on his 40th birthday that's Mattie Ross God you guys okay owned a lot of clubs and Whitman very mobbed up he said you sure about this is I'm so sure I want you to call your doorman staff term eating and Umberto's so you figured this guy cannabis he's gonna tell us so he gets there he says you know John we were all having problems with money missing and I don't want to point a finger at anybody you know Joe to German and there won't look like what's he doing in he said Joe gave me an accounting and he says he has the answers and now they're all wiggling and it was his nephew who led this group of skimming the money from his own uncle Maddie's sister Joe do you see the guy yeah he's yeah that's him right there was his nephew and then that he made the mistake of calling Joe a liar is would you just say you're a liar is you're dead Manny come on kill him cuz Joe kill you right there he's done it you don't play with job you can never call me I'm an honorable guy and this kids like he was waiting for his uncle said you can't kill him his uncle said you're gonna learn the hard way oh they didn't kill him though but they he was banned from the family forever Wow that's when it was what year is it 72 my god yeah seventies eighties yeah so let's go seven days every one of these I mean you you act it in a move you were in a movie that if the greatest movie of all time man you call it right I mean it's just crazy what happened with this that's my life how do I walk at a Pablo Escobar's torture chamber after three days I'm here yeah well then how do I go see Sodom ooh saying how do I got me how do I flee from your country how do I leave your country honestly it's about Johnny if Headley these stories are true they're crazy I told you earlier of 10% of these resorts right well the funny is they never all sure that's the funny I'm just telling you I mean if somebody's listening to this ain't come on John you cannot tell me these are true but if I'm telling you 50% are true this is crazy what all the experiences you had but what happened with Marlon Brando you take the part you go he finds that you playing Carlo then what happened apparently only matter confrontation because I was Francis Ford Coppola idea we were up to patch his out of 19 he took the back room there nobody's in the back room during the day because that's where they have the cigarette games that night after midnight so the whole cast is sitting around the table I've never said we're gonna have a cold reading I thought it'll turn the air-conditioning on I don't know what they were doing and I never read a script before first time I saw the script I copied my loins from the book and I made these things now I have actual script I'm on a call sheet I see a million an actor and I go with my Chinese chick so far I got a Brioni suit on and I'm waiting to see all these actors sterling Hayden comes his hair all messed up I mean even even Diane Keaton she like combat boots on walls everybody was scuzzy nobody was addressed you know I remember the great actors Fred Astaire you the way he looked Cary Grant on vevo god these people look like my god in a dress better than them so now we're all sitting around the table and Francis says you know I want you all introduce yourselves we know your who you are but let's just break that we're a family now and I want the Italians to exaggerate their mannerisms to teach the non attacks like James Caan is Jewish Marlon Brando's polish and he had all kinds of food and now everybody just read the script just read it but it got to you about region line so we got out malambri acting it's just really no yep just to get familiar yeah yeah so Marlon Brando then we all started laughing he was gonna say I'm all preventable but we didn't have to say not he got up and he sat down then Pacino got up on that but she don't play Michael and win around little table came to me I'm Johnny Russo playing call all and I'm dressed like the a lawyer we go around we do the first read-through we have a break on the call sheet it says big lens do not approach mr. Brando so nobody went near him let me ask you at that time he's got in Hollywood Marlon Brando's got a definitely caught as an actor yeah that's what I'm saying yeah I mean on the world I'm calling the greatest of all time yeah 30 yeah yeah don't talk to him that's what set Gurkhas he's not nuts I know everybody there cuz I go to it so I'm at the bar talking this and the other I come back in and he comes over to me Marlon Brando and I'm saying was this guy coming up early he says to me you were a big TV actor I said no I was like 26 at the time you got a big movie coming out Chris O'Donnell is really not on Broadway and everybody on Broadway is who just study with mrs. study what wait this he calls Frances oh this is Francis Francis Ford Coppola this is do you understand who this guy is he's I can't even tell you who he is he thought I was talking about you know cuz he knew I got they can't find me you're the director do anything else you want this kid he's embedded but the reasons I told you earlier that's right I never broke down a script of what my meaning is my pod people do he did it for me he marries my daughter he undermines my oldest son Sonny for the barzinis he gets him killed it to toe boots my son Michael tries to avenge his death he has to leave this country my whole family is destroyed like this guy you better get another actor just like that I'm saying myself wait a minute I just had a big party I told everybody's in this movie and everybody was saying the same thing you saying how you gonna be in this movie you crazy not an act to get out of here Johnny this is that us get out of here I said tell me I'm in the movie I have a big party I didn't have a party on 5060 patches so now I said you know I longer you're fired I'm gonna then make my move so I don't know protocol that I can't dismiss the director even in the rehearsal he's the director mm-hmm so I said Frances go over there been annoyed and he went now the whole room is sailing laughs is this kid then I did the next sacrilege I put my arm on Brent though let's come over here with me and I walked into the back cuz I didn't want to embarrass the guy so sooner we get out of here shot I had my arm on him let me just tell you something you fucked us up for me you hear what I'm telling you I will suck on your heart right here who'd I tell you to destroy my upper - it goes your Marlon Brando he stepped back I didn't know what he was gonna do he said that was brilliant he thought I was acting he came out of the room he told me told friends and then from there started she's with me every day I couldn't get rid of them every day cuz then he said now we're talking yeah and everybody really get pissed now took my Jimmy Carter's balls like this look at this guy and the fact that it's being shot instead 9 which is where you grow up you know everybody everybody would have to pee have to peel with my wedding we're at my real weddings the bane me no more ele on the bandstand played for two different weddings for me they wanted an Italian wedding bill as I got him up come on how you gonna get that so wedding cake LaRosa's bakery make my wedding cake I said what kind of cake is all we want to sustain out with the kosaka phony well how many tiers 6 I get the King for you and I make money for everybody get the King Chatham 1,500 I get 500 they said what how are they gonna get it done they couldn't get it done not worship I mean insane what made his style of acting like what like what did he have a role like did he have a routine right before he was doing was there anything that to him was random yeah random becomes don't forget he's 3-4 hours of makeup yeah 3-4 hours of makeup makeup yeah as that transformations coming the guy who were talking to when he walked in I was in there a lot with dick Smith my time the transformation is resume and if it was a serious part forget about it this guy was major I mean he taught me everything the closing scene he says you've never done this before he says you're gonna be projected in a single shot 20 feet of course is you know you're gonna die and everybody in the audience is gonna know you do that you're gonna die how are you gonna prove you know you know or you don't know how you're gonna batter you know don't know that you don't know cuz you know what the audience to know you're gonna die yeah when he says get the hell on my face right yeah I said what should I do is I'm gonna give you some clothes it's when he does this scenes with you first of all whisper a lot of stuff you don't like you want this to be between him and you don't let the rest of the guys here cuz you know they kill he's when he had you a ticket looked down make sure there's a ticket dead like you really think you're gonna get out of it all those little nuances he did that I got not act wow he did but like even used to when he hands you to drink don't get too nervous to portrays it let him push it up to you he did all that cuz I was so afraid of Michael at that point so you up until that when he walked in when I got up and said Michael please you got it overall I thought I could call him too but at that point but he she said one to show that transition and I'm the people you know I got recognized in the con Film Festival as most promising newcomer they thought this well that was grateful for quits I mean it's two scenes that's crazy it's not just like it's like one oh yeah the other scene is which scene the scene is where Sonny comes after you right there was a baseball god yeah that's a sick sense of calm cover yeah and he he actually hits you with the bat by the way I got hit me on the battery you guys had issues like him a lot issues he almost got me killed he got me killed about the third third weekends and throw two ribs of yours well that was good crawling uh that was still in that scene yeah he chipped my elbow broke two ribs hit me with the bat there was no bat when we rehearsed it two days in a row he came up with that improvising when he comes out of con throws the bat and he hit me right in the head I mean but then thank God we're behind the car but he thought I'd never get up no he's over at that guy right Jimmy Caan is so jealous I mean it's over now but have you guys reconnected those day I don't know I've never talked to you'd never talk to him I'm not that guy he always got me literally killed literally with Junya come my bazooka who took over the coal my family no jr. ye he set me up and thank God I was with Tommy Bilotti and Busey DeCicco if I wasn't with those two guys I don't think they were to kill me but I wasn't going on the set Monday what was Pacino like she knows gray Pacino when we met Pacino he was just such a humble guy really well he was a true actor mom and Pacino was young and wanted to do this magic plane Michael acquits career when no Pacino's and I still love Pacino you know he's got a lot of problems now oh I did any given Sunday you know that mmm that's what a white movies you weren't super mario brothers as well I think I did Seabiscuit yeah we only got one Oscar nomination don't we give more Seabiscuit why Jeff Bridges and Tobey Maguire were awfully good of em I thought it was a great movie yeah I thought it was a great moment here I mean I nicknamed one of our sales guys Seabiscuit really I use I said listen your nickname is Seabiscuit moving for every time he calls me what my phone would say Seabiscuit after the movie came out so Pacino stop did he have a routine or would he just immediately bone he was in it right away was there like there I actually was invited one afternoon where those three houses that were on the compound they took them where they were our dressing rooms I didn't have trailers up there there that was the confines up there was so small so our base camp was those houses everybody else was down in the community college and they'd bust them off but I used to watch these guys do improv improvisation and get into characters I mean I saw Al Pacino which I couldn't even to today and there was Jimmy call in the room Robert Duvall these are all thespians yeah I mean this is a legend a legend they would compete against each other Al Pacino did an improvisation of a one-legged man cured up his ball playing golf and no ball no club put the tea in the ground balancing himself one leg and put the ball on it then go back for the swing and it full get up again I mean you I mean for a while that you thought he had one leg you put the two legs together come together but that's what came that balancing who's in the room when he's doing that all of you only only actors are allowed in there and everyone's seen him do this and then they try to beat dance and do oh he's a challenge had it was an accident it was it an exercise Wow I mean who shocked everybody was there anybody that was like cuz Pacino you're expecting him Casal John Casal a brilliant actor what did he do just the things they did you know they they'd read books it was no books they challenge each other then they would come a part of it they were all do yeah totally improvisation it's great to see that it was a great lesson for me what it what has that movie done to your life I don't think I have a life I don't know what I mean I thought you and that's a great question because sitting here now 50 years 50 years is crazy what I have amassed I mean I'm a businessman I own not old I don't say that cos government I represent all the ip's I'm the ambassador ambassador the quarterly old brands Genco olive oil the company that I represent haunted with Greco brothers in Chicago they do six big in a year in saying food groceries without us we're about to go to 18,000 grocery stores it's the biggest launch ever because it's the Godfather it's new product random but one of the oldest brains in the world listen everybody knows this brain Iran we would watch God there translated in Farsi I mean got it brother was like required the watching you know you had to watch so funny you just said that Mike my two grandsons live in Italy and my mom my one grandson sneaks close to me yeah I don't have a good relationship but a lot of my kids and he says to me poppy how many languages you speak we're talking about he's I turned the television Chinese you're talking Farsi kiddo no he's 8 years old what does he know he thinks I'm a genius right but think about this guy speaks 20 languages yeah because we watched godfather translated apart have you probably seen it to see what it looks like I liked looking at that those kind of things yeah last last story last story I've interviewed Jim Jenkins Jim Jenkins was the guide that was one to four guys in the autopsy room that held JFK's brain in his hands I interviewed Clint Hill who was a Secret Service agent for Jackie Kennedy was Secret Service agent think for like five presidents and he was the first guy that jumped on the car when Dealey Plaza later so you know Clint Ellis and a bunch of other guys that have to do with JFK what's your version the story two days prior let me do that I went to New Orleans and I've run an envelope down which I brownie envelopes here we go and I go into to call us his restaurant and I just came from New York and I ran into the bathroom he says somebody in there so a few minutes later a guy comes out I gonna be I go and he just put down a big plate if they knew I like pasta bowl go away he'll dump they've unbelievable and I sit down he says don't get comfortable that's what do you mean he's got to go back you got something for me I gave him the elbow I just want to get rid of em all up to begin with I said to mr. C wants to know he's just telling this it's all so he told me go back to New York right go take a shower upstairs come down and gonna meet him at 11 o'clock commit is what what's what did he say he says it's on okay he slides the manila envelope over to me he's this $15,000 in cash and then there's Merchant Marine papers and you're leaving in there this week on the independence it's okay is where you going is you going on the ship this is essentially gonna know when you land in Barcelona come off the ship command I'll meet you at the pier they'll have a card name on it it's okay I said well he says they'll tell you that then one that's I did this so many times you know cuz I didn't want to know he didn't want me to know thank God he didn't want me to know so now I go get all my clothes if it eight thousand cash for spending money oh and he said you're gonna go to go to Layton's I set you up at Layton's we weren't wearing Boronia he says go Layton's get some closure be at the captain's table every night captain Bennington's to captain the ship okay so I get on board and I'm going to have to go had crude that care to go to where the crew was and they said no sir you have to go over your passenger ID Gucci luggage it the reason he got me on the ship as a hand dresser she has a Merchant Marine there's no passports there's nothing he didn't want anybody know where I was going that's how much she protected me Wow I was gone 22 months I leave we're going under the Verrazano Bridge I can remember like yesterday on the loudspeaker they said President Kennedy has just been shot and he was dead I'm getting chills even repeating it I said oh my god cuz I just spent so much time with John F Kennedy I went to do your normal I was with Senator John Kennedy watching a baby sitting for years while they were grooming this guy that wasn't enough now that night in the dining that we could I mean could then now a later on hours later they mentioned he's dead and then I saw this is insane because I was with I brought envelopes I went to Texas when they convinced Lyndon Baines Johnson to join the ticket even though he had all these votes they knew they needed Texas and Lyndon Baines Johnson him like up kid I need you couldn't stand the family but they he knew they said to him before his terms out you'll be President who told him that I can't tell you tell him that that's why I came along for the ride that's why he brought him to the knoll he was the only guy to brought him there nobody brought that out yet and there was three shooters that's why those guys when they saw him they knew he wasn't shot by Oswald and guess what happened to me now we go next morning I get up on a telex newspaper the guy that was in the bathroom who you Harvey Oswald Marcelo's hired him they wanted their own hitters they needed trust anybody three hitters the guy in the suit aren t that someone's gonna get him the guy in the sewer was the dead bullet that was the boat that they can't figure out how it made left's and rights a good friend of mine too and what they did to him they found him in a barrel you know 73 people died since the Kennedy assassination they took out 73 people calmly though he's gonna tell you that shit that's why then they did what they did you know but Bobby sitting in the front seat when that happened governor yeah and he knew what's gonna happen we don't know so do you come at LBJ you don't know you just know what you heard that's all that's all I ever do okay and not even know that and you don't even know that it's only hearsay got it yeah you know it's everybody's curious Manning you you would wonder you would think like after all these years you know a guy like that when all these things coming out someone's gonna come out and tell the truth on what took place someone with uh well there's a lot in my book I'll tell you that yeah I mean I've had even when you know when we when they was um I was devastated because I really liked the guy and not nor do I ever want to say I was part of a conspiracy but indirectly how I do was bring um boats like her was dead and I was questioned by everybody believe me and I waited 22 months I came back after 22 months I was gone you were in Italy I started in Spain the guy who picked me up we took our time and I realized why and then I finally got to Sicily and I stay we're very close friend of mine who just recently passed on and that was it what a life you live all these stories I said Davis they would say them nice and Costello would tell who go go go go for was the boss unless Lee says you want to keep this guy happy to skip runs you get his own food get him women you Grace Kelly anything with Grace Kelly ER and all I can yep it's funny they did a story on me a couple yeah a couple of months ago why I didn't talk about Grace Kelly and I said you know we're talking about Grace Kelly's like talking about the Blessed Mother I know Grace Kelly when she was staying here on 63rd Street and Lexington Avenue Barbara's not hotel a family from Philadelphia sent to you for finishing schools Costello would give me an envelope to go to the floor monitor after nine o'clock and this guy do we used to call it flowers for the table Branko gets me some flowers and I'd give the guy the money and then one night it was Grace Kelly when Audrey Hepburn and two other socialites and I drop them at the Copa or Latin Quarter they want to be Woodrow Wilson they're all these guys that's what it was all about and that's one thing what Costello he took care of everybody newspaper people police department may is everywhere presidents the amount of presidents they control the ridiculous ridiculous how was the race Kelly's personality more the personalities and how amazing yeah amazing lady and I was on it I were talking I was at every every year Princess Grace carriage horse my Monaco yeah but what's interesting every year I was at the Red Cross ball sitting with Frank Sinatra everybody else Carrie anybody was alive I was there E and everybody said like who is this kid last question Nixon mobbed up with Nixon my oh my god yeah Nixon Nixon was I mean there's so many that were but Nixon and I kept thinking of people didn't figure this out we all know Jimmy Hoffa while he was in pre-op found God yeah and it's gonna come out and this particular time obvious on the FBI wiretap all over the world they got me they I knew I was screwed so but the good news indirectly he got me out of that mess because I just borrowed 72 million dollars of the Teamsters and put my hotel in Vegas so and I was borrowing a lot of money but you don't have papist what do you need to get it so he was gonna come out and disclose Frank Fitzsimmons and all of them or what they did with the pension fund and the Brotherhood would vote him in so they called Nixon they said I mean yeah Nixon this she got a pardon Jimmy Hoffa is what is important to me offer any pardons certain killer that's the story nobody ever tell you that story he pardoned Jimmy Hoffa Suzuki watch Jimmy officer certain people can kill him who killed him Jimmy Cooney Jimmy uh Jimmy James Cooney something like that a name like that he's a prison right now yeah yeah it's apparently that's the story I mean there's obviously a lot of different stories when it comes out tonight well that's why I laugh all the time when they saying oh the FBI has a tip that they just buried in a farm they go didn't dig up father nothing comes up yeah I'll tell you what Jimmy out there is how's that that Buick they took the axles out and the motor block out and they delivered it to friends of us and they crushed it in that car question thing and mob guys were bidding on that pedestal it's a 4x4 piece of steel the friction heat and all that there is no DNA there's nothing and they say oh there's a couple of us that know the story it's Wayne said oh he was buried in the giant stadium means he's buried they come up with all these stories with Jimmy Hoffa is Jimmy Hoffa is in a mob bosses basement game room with a eight-foot piece of plate glass over it and they put their feet up it's only certain guys know that man that's nuts let's talk about this book Mario you guys had joined us you just sitting here like what we were talking about the now last thank-yous and this is a novel this is not true story based on a many fictional stories here not just so Nick Pileggi from Goodfellas Gianna Russo has seen a lot done a lot and tells a lot amazing Gay Talese generous as a true character who has led the most colorful life so what else can you tell us about this book it's coming out what it's coming on next come out March 12th year March 12th okay what else do we know that's gonna be in this book I know you talked about some stuff which shot what else is in here the Vatican lot of stuff about Hollywood a lot of ins and outs and movie stars friends I've been with great story about Josh and Gabor you got to read it's amazing I can't tell you what happened in how he used his house that's just so many great stories a lot of fun things a lot of stories of how the Godfather movie saved my life especially Pablo Escobar I don't know his death cuz you don't had a problem with two of his guys went there because you know they they believe in something here so when I haven't had an incident my Columbia State Street and I had to shoot this guy after he spared this woman and he slit my throat and I just took him out only to find out he was an underboss with Pablo Escobar and they were just setting up a whole new thing in Vegas of drugs and his brother Lorenzen when Delia was like this and he had to he asked the Avengers brother's death they believe in something here so I didn't know anything about this Oscar Goodman we were talking about earlier and then different people at the time they got a girl from UNLV to tell me about the son Satya cuz I came home there was the whole thing of my living room floor and I live in secured compound and this is on my rug and that my daughter pitcher which Salome and is a chicken and all this stuff on my rug like steaks what circle and she had to explain to me she said well you are marked for death but they're gonna avenge anybody and anything your pets they'll kill you'll be the last to go so I came to New York to meet Gotti who's the only one I think I know he was diving saved directly to him so again I gotta say my good friend Joe watts he's like this with John I said I gotta talk to John they arranged it I come here and I was wondering for the longest time not a long time in a couple hours while I was waiting to get on the plane why is he doing this he figured out I got that never come back he thought I'm done with this guy finally so he arranged for me to go to it I went I went to Bogota because I figured let me appeal to this guy I know my kids killed and all this and friends of mine I had nothing to do with this and I said if I had a minute to tell him don't let him kill me I don't care I don't want nothing to happen to my kids and I went and I met him in a church I felt good about that and then when I want him you know Pablo yeah Pablo and he was in a church the image of who I thought it was and he was praying and the closer I got to my smell flesh he was burning his fingertips I don't know mess with some kind of penance he was burning his fingertips on the candles as he was praying and as I'm walking down the aisle to get to him every time I walked 10 15 feet you hear creaking of the pews and guys were sitting up with guns so I thought I was there alone there was about ten fifteen guys in the church so all I remember is going in to him and I said mr. Escobar I gotta tell you and that's all I got out I woke up chained to chairs my clothes were stripped off of me the seat had no bottom and there were body bags blood all over I mean the stench in that room and these guys were just having fun with me then one day a man I'm sitting like I'm done I don't know how many hours I was there a guy neatly dressed standing in front of me necessarily talked about the Godfather and what it means to me he says to me why don't you tell me you will call him the Godfather and it was Pablo Escobar you just take him upstairs and clean them so I go he gave me some pills that I was in pain they had a shame and like a ball you know what rubber on it and there be hitting me in my groin area I mean my rectum and balls I mean I couldn't even move for like I walk like an old man at that time and he very apologetic he gave me some pills like if they took me to the room I stayed there he says sleep I don't know how long I slept next thing you know I'm all dressed in one of them you know those white beautiful colors I mean having dinner with him and he says to me I'm so sorry but my people treated you like this I'm saying was a you did you that's all not your people and we talked for a long time and he says tell me why did you come here I said I had nothing to do with this you are man or whoever he was because I didn't want to directly say it's your guy that's whoever you sent he breaks a crystal bottle sticks it in this lady's face I go to try to rectify it I told him leave I did I said you know Simon's too coming for you get out of here like if it was somebody and they're both gonna have it I was I don't want to be it Oh the warden said the trial for two months for you I said get out of here they said no bond I said nobody with mom his mom then I realized you know but I didn't know he had the bottle yet in that zone and that's when he went from my neck yeah and I went back and that's why this gin was hanging so now I have the green light and I could play with it once I know it's self-defense that's all anybody I killed with self-defense in fact the last judge I was in front this is mr. Russo I understand about all the self-defense he's been if you kill another person and you don't open your shirt and there's a big s on your chest you're good shit crazy things with so if you're enamored by all the stories he is telling you Kate today in this interview to sit down Gordon is book click on a link below to order the book for yourself and all these other stories that he didn't share because we don't have all the time you can read about it when you order the book I heard the book comes out with March 12 2012 March 12 the book comes out and then you also got a podcast right yeah Hollywood Godfather pod Hollywood Godfather podcast we'll put that link below as well go subscribe and listen to some of his podcast and would that be so generous it's been a pleasure sitting out here with you my pleasure thank you

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