So, Paula, now all eyes on the special counsel's election interference investigation. And now we have this sighting. What more are you learning tonight? Yeah, that sighting kicking up a lot of intrigue, a lot of questions about whether an indictment is closed for an hour. And, of course, we know from our reporting that, yes, the investigators have been in the final stage of this investigation for quite some time. We know they've talked to most of the key players that we expected them to speak to, like Vice President Mike Pence recently, Rudy Giuliani. We know they've been asking specifically about some of these schemes, including the fake electors. Right. The effort to put in these fake slate of electors. They've also been asking, as we reported last week, about that December 18th meeting in the Oval Office. So we know they've really narrowed it down to a few key events, a few key particulars, possible crimes that they could charge. But we also know from our reporting that they continue to reach out to new witnesses, people they haven't spoken to in quite some time, reaching out for additional documents, reaching out to schedule interviews. And they're in the big outstanding question is whether they will try to charge everything all at once. Right. This is a very sprawling investigation. Unlike Mar-A-Lago, there are well over a dozen potential targets, at least half a dozen potential crimes. Well, they try to charge this all at once or they're going to go through this in phases. And that's what is just not clear right now. As we know, it's in the final phase. We know what they've been up to. But we know they continue to reach out to additional witnesses. They keep gathering evidence. So the big question is whether this all happened at once. Or if they'll do this in pieces. Want to wait and see, though, All right. Thank you very much, Paula. So let's go now on the heels of that reporting to the former Trump White House lawyer, Ty Cobb. So, Ty, I'll get to the Trump delay tactics here which obviously you know well and could be very significant. But first, Paul is reporting the DOJ prosecutors together being side at the federal courthouse today. So you've got them appearing for the first time together in a few weeks. You also, though, have what she's talking about, which is they're still interviewing people. People are still appearing before this grand jury, which, you know, you don't always have on the eve of a possible indictment. So what do you read into all this? Is this about to happen or not? I believe it's about to happen. I think the you know what it was called, the January six case, which really encompasses all the attempts to cling to power and prevent the peaceful transfer of of government. I think that's a has been a very important matter to the special prosecutor. I think he has gone about it very deliberately. I think they have moved heaven and earth to do it in a timely way. I think, you know, keep in mind, much of their delay was caused by the January six committee's refusal and failure to share transcripts which set them back several months. So I think they've been trying to make up ground. I think they're ready to go. I don't think there may. As to Dr. T's to cross yet, but I do think there are some difficult decisions. You know, Trump could well end up being a defendant in this case along with several other co-defendants. He could be listed as an unindicted coconspirator. He can be admitted entirely. And, you know, they can they can continue to investigate and later bring charges. So you really don't know. But I think they want to proceed. And one of the reasons they want to proceed quickly is the Georgia case You know, we know they're trying. Wallace is has said that she's going to have an indictment almost immediately. The grand jury has been impaneled as of today. And they plan to simply, I think, read into evidence or have agents summarize testimony from their prior grand jury, the legality of which remains under under attack and under motions in Georgia. But I think they're I think they will indict quickly. And it'll be interesting to see how that proceeds, because it does the government, the federal government no favor for, you know, a D.A. and Georgia to be you know, examining, direct examining Mark Meadows and giving Trump's lawyers multiple shots at, you know, the various defendants who will be key against them in the federal case. So I think I think the feds will be moving quickly. I think they'll be moving decisively. And it will have been a well-thought out case, just like the Mar a Lago case turned out to be an almost flawless indictment. I think you'll see the same quality of work in the January six area All right. So on this this point about the Mar a Lago classified documents case that you describe as flawless. Jack Smith says he wants that trial to take place in December of this year. You know, and you have people, many legal experts who say that that theoretically there should be no problem with that. However, then enters the real world and the real world is that clearly Trump's legal strategy here is to delay the proceedings. Right. He's saying delayed until after the 2024 election indefinitely, essentially. Right. That's what he's asking judge can and do. And that is of course a judge that he appointed himself. She has final say in this. So do you think that Trump will be successful in having this delayed indefinitely in running out the clock until after the election for the Mar a Lago case time? I don't believe he'll be successful in getting her to grant the delay that he has requested. Keep in mind that Judge Cannon has scheduled next week the hearing, the first of the super proceedings, the so-called Section two hearing, where they start to sort out the classified issues. And that was over Trump's objection and consistent with what the government had asked for. On the other hand, you know, the SIPA process is a is a complex process. I was an act passed in in the early eighties. I've litigated under it. It can There are many, many built in opportunities for delay. Some that you can predict and some that are unpredictable. So there's room for mischief. There, which of course, is frustrating, I think, to the to the government, because Trump has no substantive defenses. But he does have, you know, the procedural ability to delay things and and that and, you know, that now that the keyword you know, the mantra in the Trump clubhouse of rotating lawyers is stall, stall, stall, stall them All right. Well. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
