Who polices the police? - The Fifth Estate

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I don't know...coast guard?

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 29 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Odhinn1986 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Mar 01 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

TL;DR Police fail to police themselves & the cop who got shot deserved it.

Here's an article to scan for the facts if you don't have 43 minutes to spare.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/police-oversight-nathan-parker-allegations

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Just wow. I have ZERO confidence in our police. It's not just a 'few bad apples'. Many many many cops are bad. We see it over and over again.

No wonder people feel compelled to take things into their own hands.

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They made great music, but Copeland and Sting's hatred for each other lead to the band's demise. Their management should have really done more to end the bickering.

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Canadian Police are a Law unto themselves!

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Tellitasitis1984 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Mar 01 2021 πŸ—«︎ replies

Police police police police.

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Police are public servants and ultimately answer to us citizens.

If they want to protect the corrupt than we must expose them.

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ten bullets that's how many shots one police officer fired at a fellow cop here at this intersection back in 2018. tonight the story behind this strange shooting and how it highlights the failures in canada to police the police i'm mark kelly this is the fifth estate [Music] pelham ontario an hour and a half from toronto a place where not much happens and according to robin zavitz the locals like it that way it's a very quiet rural community most neighbors don't even know neighbors names if you come out here you obviously want your privacy and you want to be someplace quiet and that's what it is a lot there's a lot of farmland here but there's also a lot of people that just don't want to be in the city and they want to come out here for peace and quiet but one november day in 2018 she saw a cluster of niagara regional police officers they were investigating the scene of a traffic accident that had happened weeks earlier zavitz said something seemed unusual from that blockade on the road we could see this intersection and the intersection was full of police vehicles lights were going there was one police vehicle that appeared to have driven off the road slightly and was in the ditch did you ask to find out what we couldn't get down this far we didn't find out what was going on until we'd been home for a while and at that point we had we heard through the grapevine sort of that there had been a shooting here in in pelham on the corner the first call that came through was uh a tip from one of our usual sources who said just that an officer had been shot and that immediately sets off the newsroom la flesche was immediately assigned to cover the story i started working my police sources from the newsroom because our primary goal at that point was to find out who has been shot what were the circumstances under which they were shot and what's the condition of the officer because an officer getting shot in the line of duty is such a rare occurrence in canada that if when it happens it's very shocking family members were calling us and saying oh my god there's a shooting on roland road are you guys okay what happened we said we don't know news quickly broke this police shooting was unlike any other before as you know there is an interaction and subsequent shooting of one of our constables by another member of our service at this time the investigation is in the hands of the special investigations unit we learned that it was a police officer that had shot a police officer so that was really cause for concern there wasn't a lot of information out there other than one officer had shot another in broad daylight in a quiet location in a quiet little community in the middle of the day while investigating a motor vehicle accident that's the stuff of that they make movies about it's right it's very odd four months later ontario's special investigations unit the civilian police oversight agency laid multiple charges i'm here to advise you that the ontario special investigations unit charged one of our officers detective sergeant shane donovan earlier today shane was involved in an incident that has been widely reported in the media those offenses are attempted murder aggravated assault and assault with a weapon donovan a 19-year veteran of the niagara police had an unblemished service record so why shoot a fellow officer as i'm sure the community can understand this incident and the last few months have been incredibly difficult and trying for the officers involved for their families and for our entire service what i can tell you is there's no playbook for a situation like this no playbook and no precedent for a cop on cop shooting donovan allegedly shot his fellow officer 10 times and somehow the victims survived the ontario provincial police was also called in to launch a criminal investigation and at that point you just think what how how is that going on you know whatever other criticisms and criticisms you want to lay at the police service they do stick together pretty well it was a very shocking it was a very shocking sort of incident because it just doesn't happen it happens in the movies it doesn't happen in real life what the hell happened but the opp investigation into the shooting would turn the case on its head they allege donovan the shooter was in fact the victim in this incident charging instead the cop he shot 10 times at approximately 9 40 a.m the ontario provincial police arrested and charged one of our officers constable nathan parker donovan's charges would be dropped instead constable parker was charged with assault assault with a weapon and assaulting a peace officer parker's a 28-year veteran of the niagara police force but for those who knew him this bizarre shooting was now starting to make a whole lot more sense once we found out that the cop had shot a cop that's when i turned to one of my colleagues and said does anybody want to take bets that nathan parker is involved in this and i was just bored scanning the headlines for current events and i came across niagara region police officer shoots fellow cop i just saw that headline and i thought here we go he's finally gone too far and so i clicked on the story and i wasn't even reading it i just started scrolling down looking for his name as soon as i saw nathan parker i went bingo because of course it was him when we come back we take a closer look at nathan parker and his troubled past if your brother were to knock on your front door what would you do oh boy i'm on the third floor so i can't jump out the window i'd call police [Music] it was an unlikely setting for an unlikely incident november 2018 niagara regional police officer shane donovan shot his fellow officer 10 times the victim constable nathan parker and yet parker is the one charged after the shooting we set out to find out more about nathan parker he joined the niagara regional police in 1990 fresh out of police college i attended his graduation at the ontario police college and that was a joyous occasion um our grandfather was there he was a veteran of the second world war he exchanged hats with my brother he put his uh his grandpa hat with my brother in his uniform and he took my brother's service cap on and posed for a picture and that was a really warm moment parker is now estranged from his only sibling his brother phil tell me something about growing up with nathan what was it like what was your relationship like growing up to tell you the truth i didn't have a male role model we didn't have a father uh so he was like kind of like he was my older brother but he was sort of like i didn't have a yardstick on how to judge how was i supposed to be a man how was i supposed to be a male so i looked to his example i i admired him i tried to emulate him uh but at the same time there was also fear because whenever he became angry he was vicious he's not he's not raging 24 7. uh he he can be humorous and and you know just have the characteristics of any well-adjusted person and then he'll become angry and it's uh it's disturbing and why did he want to become a cop um i guess he was just naturally attracted to it i guess he was drawn just born for it um he certainly was driven we were both skinny um but he turned to weight training to build himself up and i think that wasn't just for athleticism i think that was for the purpose of becoming a police officer to you know become powerful and intimidate or overpower people who are resisting that brings us to this couple wayne and marlene penner in 2003 marlene was pulled over for not properly displaying her license plate the police officer nathan parker her husband wayne was known to niagara police after two criminal convictions of his own he sat with his wife in traffic court parker had spelt the license plate wrong and this brought up a whole bunch of laughter in the courtroom and so obviously i laughed too he left the bench and he came down and he came up to me and he says if you even look at me or say anything in the courtroom i'm going to arrest you i said fine so as soon as he sat down i stood up and i said your honor and i've just been threatened by a police officer that he was going to arrest me if i said anything or looked at him and the judge says no you're not going anywhere just sit down so as i sat down the next thing i remember was i was putting a chokehold behind from parker so i get this straight he's putting you in a chokehold in the middle of a busy courtroom yes the judge just left and he dragged me with my glasses my glasses went flying and he dragged me to out through the doors the double doors that are the entrance into the courthouse punching my ribs punching my shoulders punching my head marlene saw her husband loaded into the police cruiser charged with causing a disturbance what tell me what you saw well i saw him a mess his eye and he was pretty beat up what's your impression of of officer parker i would not want to meet him in a dark alley i wouldn't wish that on anyone he scares me quite frankly the charge against penner was dropped he then filed a complaint with niagara police against parker a retired cop heard the case at a disciplinary hearing and didn't believe everything penner was saying he determined penner had been disruptive in court muttering profanities and that officers acted legally in arresting him he found parker not guilty so what he's saying is you can actually choke a guy beat him to a pulp in handcuffs choke him boot him kick him that's all legal no problem canadian law according to him penner appealed and won then niagara police appealed and won so penner filed a civil suit it took years to wind its way through a series of legal challenges it was eventually settled out of court parker's next incident though was more clear-cut just three days after he was given use of force training parker assaulted a 16-year-old robbery suspect the teenager had said something to yo like what's up g like he was pretending to be a tough guy uh parker did not like the term yo it was like rocky balboa i said yo and he didn't like it kid was arrested handcuffed thrown on the ground thrown on a police cruiser and then pepper sprayed and then according to that teenager's account while he's sitting in the car being pepper sprayed handcuffed uh parker says to him and you forgive the salty language are you gonna say yo to me again piece of [Β __Β ] this is somebody who's supposed to serve and protect the teenager filed a complaint and parker was charged with use of unnecessary force the police hearing officer upheld the charge adding i am of the belief this officer has an anger management problem and needs to be brought under control parker was docked seven vacation days and ordered to take an anger management course [Music] it's just so frustrating because he assaults people on the job if i went to my workplace and assaulted someone of course i would immediately be fired and face criminal charges so why should there be a double standard for police that would be such a great deterrent but lawyer margaret hoy says the deterrents aren't there she's taken on 100 cases for clients who've had run-ins with niagara regional police including shane donovan let's stick with the internal police discipline system here for the niagara regional police how how effective has that been as you've seen it over the years they're they're they're not it's not working so we're i'm seeing the same frequent flyers come across my desk on a regular basis frequent flyers yeah those are individuals that i see involved in police officers that i see involved in repeated assaults was nathan parker one of those he would be an individual that i've seen before i've seen him more than one occasion before one of those cases involved a cyclist named pino carbonara i believe that um mr parker had cut pinot off with his car and i think pano either um swore at him or maybe he gave him a finger and that that can get you beat up and niagara in certain certain neighborhoods and that's what happened to him yeah parker who was off duty at the time threw the cyclist to the ground then arrested him for mischief claiming he'd damaged his car that charge was dropped carbonara filed a complaint the police disciplinary hearing ruled in the cyclist favor saying parker acted with a total lack of professionalism judgment and courtesy adding a strong message must be sent to this officer so that we as an organization and the public at large maintain the high trust and accountability that the public demands of its police officers niagara regional police docked him 90 hours leave time and sent parker for retraining in all we found three incidents where parker was found guilty by niagara's disciplinary process for using unnecessary force during arrests but to what end i don't ever remember hearing one police inspector or superintendent of these hearings saying you know what officer x needs to go this this is an action that is so far past their public trust that we want to take this person's badging gun it doesn't happen when it comes to the specific issue of police discipline and police disciplinary hearings um they keep kind of kicking themselves in the shin and the the case that you're looking at the nathan parker case is precisely one of those examples that i don't think the service has calculated the damage to its reputation long term this isn't just a problem for the niagara police all across canada unless a death or permanent injury is involved most belief misconduct cases are investigated by internal disciplinary boards in secret the police investigating the police margaret hoy wonders where's the accountability especially when dealing with those so-called frequent flyers as far as i know they get very light if any punishment they get very light punishment the system doesn't seem to correct their behavior there may be things that they need to be looking at better such as psychological assessments to see if the individual has a a temperament that is such that they should be a police officer more often than not when i'm doing these trials i've found oh yes i'm that was the that was the high school bully and he's now a police officer one would have thought that the board or the police chief or whoever is in charge of that would actually investigate and reprimand them but very little happened to these individuals which were found to be culpable for assaulting individuals without cause what message do you think that sends to the police officers it's obviously a message that doesn't matter and do what you want who should ultimately be responsible for this i mean clearly there was a problem there and clearly the problem needed to be solved and it wasn't who should have taken action it seems to be a systemic problem uh come on get people weed them out of police service they don't belong i don't know i guess their hands are tied their hands shouldn't be tied i think that's an excuse come on police chiefs you got power you got authority stand up do something change the system you're the ones in charge you're not a bunch of passive observers you're the ones in charge [Music] change what is your emergency altercation on uh on the road here hey grab her by the head he claims he was an officer okay no way off the throw grab a guy in the head like that november 2013 a busy intersection in st catharines ontario in a textbook road rage incident an agitated man gets out of his vehicle to confront the driver of another car mcmurtini ambulance two witnesses would call 911. i think police have a major battle here two guys i don't know i don't know the particulars he's trying to pull him out of the truck as we speak one of the nails is trying to pull someone else out of the truck yeah right as we speak right now excuse me sir if you're a police officer you're totally out of line am i with you am i the off-duty police officer who is confronting him nathan parker hello hello yes hello the police officer just assaulted me there's little known publicly about the other people involved in that incident with parker well we track them down i was traveling on lake street and i came to a red light stop and the truck beside me came to a skidding stop beside me and then next thing i heard a lot of screaming a lot of effing all that kind of stuff i got out of my car i called 911 right away you want the license numbers hey one second there was a gentleman at the window of the truck and he was extremely irate unfortunately the guy in the truck made the mistake of putting the window down enough that he could get his hands in and he was attempting to pull him out of there and i would say by the ears that's when i told him like look slow down back off you know let him go and that's when he let the guy go and he looked at me with this crazy look and he walked towards him he didn't run and he's kind of like this on my chest and then all of a sudden kaboom he nailed me really good all right don let's go a few uh a few things first niagara regional police opened an investigation into parker's road rage incident after the driver filed a complaint against parker my name is bud rung i'm a detective sergeant i work out of the casino unit in niagara falls we obtained this video of the police interview this is what the public doesn't see how police investigate allegations of misconduct against one of their own your name is don plato yes is it donald yes watch how it begins what i read if there was an offense committed it would be dangerous driving the officer investigating the complaint against parker suggests plato may be the one at fault and could be charged so before i get any type of statement from you i want you to be aware of the jeopardy that you may be facing i'm not saying you are facing anything okay um but i want you just to be aware of that plato tries to set the record straight saying all he did was honk at parker for cutting him off he crossed over two lanes so i lay on the horn he slams on the brakes i can't go anywhere i'm wedged like this i don't know who he is he comes out of the truck he grabs me by the hair and ears and just like he's trying to pull me out of the truck because this guy this man's a big pretty big guy and i you know and i he's he starts with profanity and swearing so as he grabs you what is he saying to you oh he's just screaming and yelling like a madman yeah the scary thing was if we would have been out in a dark neighborhood where there's no witnesses i don't know where this guy would have stopped me at several points in the interview the investigating officer says niagara police will take these complaints seriously we have what we call professional standards it's kind of like you see on tv the internal people i can't say to you here you come to court and you get up because you it's up to you and if you're not interested in pursuing i'm certainly not going to victimize you again and say you have to it's no no it's it's up to you plato eventually dropped his complaint against parker though officer wrung told us later he didn't try to influence him in any way you know they talk about policemen you should be held to a start a higher standard which i 100 agree with and the criminal code doesn't look at stuff that way but the police services act does so even things like swearing right swearing in public you can lose time you can and if there is a history and severe offense of the police service act ultimately you can lose your job so parker didn't lose his job he was docked 120 hours pay this was his fourth disciplinary offense three of them involving violence setting the stage for the shootout with shane donovan i have friends and relatives that are in the niagara police department and there are a lot of really good people there for sure but unfortunately like anywhere there's always a few bad apples and what i don't understand is when there is a bad apple why is that bad apple still out there essentially a police officer is a civil servant i think and they're being paid by us taxpayers to serve and protect well i don't feel served or protected if you put a crazy guy like that back on the street with a badge and a gun the hearing officer in parker's disciplinary tribunal said although there are deficiencies identified in his performance appraisals he has earned the support and confidence of his immediate supervisors so what is the solution for improving police discipline well it's no secret four years ago the ontario government launched a review of how different police agencies investigate cases of police misconduct lawyer danielle robitaille was senior counsel on the tulip commission justice tulik made the recommendation that within five years there should be independent prosecution and adjudication of disciplinary matters for all of them it should no longer be left in the hands of the police to police themselves it's too important it's too important for public confidence and you know it's a civilian police force it relies on public confidence we're here sitting in 2020 where there are calls to defund the police it's a complete crisis of legitimacy what do you think of that idea that if somebody's got multiple infractions disciplinary infractions do you believe that they should be red flagged in a way you know one of the ideas that was explored in justice tolic's report was the idea of you know a college of policing where officers could be licensed and there would be a a way to revoke an officer's license so that they couldn't move to another service and start their career after a series of blemishes somewhere else there should also be a central database where interested members of the public can research an officer to discover whether they've been convicted multiple times of of infractions why do you think that's important i don't see policing as being any different than any of the regulated health professions you know if you go see a registered massage therapist a dentist a doctor an orthodontist you can log on input their name and address and find out what their entire discipline history was and police have more power more authority and are invested in the public interest in the same way that those medical professionals are i want to ask you about the case of of nathan parker yeah is is his case an example of the failure of the of the disciplinary process you could look at the case as a bit of a test case for a number of questions you know should nathan parker have been made an officer in the first place did he have the right disposition did he have the right training did he have the right mentorship was it the right culture at the niagara police service it's certainly a case that we're all watching with great interest the tulik report made 129 recommendations to improve the police disciplinary process and make police watchdogs more effective in policing the police have you seen any movement towards what you what you and what justice tullock were suggesting you know i have to say that it's been a process that has been extremely disillusioning um the the ford government seems to be unwilling and resistant to take up these recommendations you know unfortunately i've become a bit cynical about how these things work and i am very sad to say that it appears it's been shelved coming up a look back at the fire and the fury that helped create the first police watchdog agency in canada we're fed up with every time that there's an incident like this that the black community yells out and screams racism the use of dumb dumb bullets in the killing of wade lawson made it no mere killing but rather an execution and it's clear that a charge should be laid and that charge should be murdered [Applause] toronto 1988 it could have been yesterday black citizens marching in the streets demanding an end to police brutality and the beginning of police accountability the protest triggered by the death of this man lester donaldson five toronto police officers who said they were responding to a call from his home found the mentally ill and disabled man alone in his bedroom after a scuffle constable david divini shot donaldson point blank twice claiming he'd lunged at his partner with a knife there are unconfirmed reports now that donaldson was just waving a kitchen knife at the five officers many in toronto's growing black community took to the streets donaldson's death one more case of police using deadly force everything came up to a boiling point people were really really really outraged that police were killing people there was no consequence in other words the police always got away constable davini was charged with manslaughter and acquitted his lawyer argued that davini believed shooting donaldson was necessary to protect his partner's life four months after donaldson's death seventeen-year-old wade lawson was killed by peel regional police constable anthony milarani he and his partner darren longprey claimed lawson was trying to run them down in a stolen car they fired at the car however it was the rear window that was blown out lawson was killed by a shot in the back of his head with a banned hollowed-out bullet the use of dumb-dumb bullets in the killing of wade lawson made it no mere killing but rather an execution it's clear that a charge should be laid and that charge should be murdered charges were indeed laid but both officers were acquitted their lawyer argued the two officers feared for their lives and fired in self-defense that sparked even more protests in toronto leading to the creation of a provincial task force into police accountability or the lack of it and task force and policing made a recommendation that police forces be overseen by a civilian entity because of concern prior to that that police were investigating themselves and the prevailing feeling was that could not be fair in 1990 the special investigations unit was born in ontario the first of its kind in canada the civilian oversight agency would investigate incidents where people died or were seriously injured at the hands of police there are now seven provinces with civilian watchdog agencies but according to the canadian press recent data reveals these agencies only recommend charges be laid against police officers in three to nine percent of the cases they investigate so why is it the vast majority of civilian watchdog investigations result in no charges being laid against police officers to answer that we brought together four former siu directors who collectively ran the agency for most of its 30 years ian scott howard morton andre mara tony laparco they've never sat down for an interview together until now as we speak today it is almost the 30th anniversary of the creation of the siu but it was created you know after the shooting deaths of lester donaldson and wade lawson the public public outcry at the time right people saying we need to do something better to police the police when you remember that from 1990 fast forward to 2020 has the siu really accomplished those goals from the public's perception i i think the lack of trust in marginalized communities has never been lower than it is now and it's hard to understand why i think it's part of the lack of faith in the criminal justice system in total so the siu gets its share of that but let's so one of the issues there and certainly from a public perception is when we look at the the what is it less than three percent of the cases end up being recommended for charges being laid i'll give you i'll give you the answer the police investigation is motivated by the allegation of criminal activity serious injury or death and we're talking police officers so you wouldn't expect them to be killers like to me the faculty states three percent is irrelevant that just means that generally speaking the system's working that but that's not the public perception that's not about their public perspective and that's uh and that's to a certain degree the siu's fault because we should be uh basically telling people this is our mandate we we look into these incidents to see whether or not there are reasonable grounds to lay a criminal offense the fact of the matter is the vast majority of these cases where force is used is is not criminal but you know tony's right i mean the reality is we expect the police to enforce the law we expect to enforce it in a reasonable way subject to the parameters that exist in the criminal code and um force is ugly when it's used but there are many many circumstances and where the force is reasonable and regrettably necessary i i must have missed something because what you say is true but you're talking about a very narrow community us included that understands all that yes what i'm talking about are the public and particularly racialized and marginalized people they just don't trust and i say part of it is stems from a lack of trust now in lawyers judges courts the entire justice system right and unless it's redefined in a way that the public understands it and feel they're a part of it that trust ain't coming back the former directors say it's not just the public that doesn't trust the siu many police chiefs don't either in the past sa directors i think we all have done this we would say in our director's report in our press release whatever that uh there was uh reasonable force in the circumstances however police training sucked they should be retrained but then they'd go crazy she's at least going crazy that's not your job your job is to charge or not to charge don't tell me how to train my my officers so they'd be extremely defensive instead of saying yeah it's a good point let's look into it and do a further investigation on how these people were trained but you know the siu is in a perfect position to assess that and say without prejudging why don't you guys have a look at whether these guys were properly trained to handle the situation and that brings us to the case of nathan parker and whether the police can truly be counted on to discipline their own there's going to be red flags around people that have disciplinary issues i mean there are a number of issues obviously the hiring is the first one what we don't see on the siu end of it is this sort of incremental disciplinary issues which should put a red flag over somebody that this person's problem let me throw one one more case at you this is the nathan parker case the officer of niagara regional police who ends up being shot by a fellow officer i leave that charge too you laid that charge too yeah and when we look at at this officers the the the victim in in the case we look at well it depends on who who you see as the victim because according to 720b the person that i charged wasn't the uh uh you know he's the victim he's the victim that's according to the according to uh what's happened since yeah because i laid the charge against the shooter what transpired there well you're going to have to ask them but the fact that they're charging someone else with straws doesn't mean we always agree on whether it should have been withdrawn and i wouldn't lay the charge if i thought that it should have been withdrawn that's still before the courts so i really shouldn't comment when i think about when you're talking about parker uh but just because you have a history of disciplinary infractions doesn't mean that you you know someone justified and shoot you no but but it but it does but it does make you wonder what does it take to get rid of a bad cop well yeah i mean i think this is a great weakness in the system it's not really an siu issue no it's an internal disciplinary issue but i agree with you this is a big problem uh you know off for example officers can be suspended as they are right now would pay for sometimes over 10 11 12 years and this is a great weakness of the system in my view the former directors agree there's a steep price to pay if the public stops believing the police will be held accountable for misconduct don't take it so easy i'm very concerned about this city we're only at the big marches and protests now sure but if you get a rash of shootings of racialized people we'll never go as far as the states but you're going to see ransacking and fires well i i hope not i hope not too going back to a question you asked much earlier about you know public trust in the siu can you take a couple steps back as a society and say look what is the siu doing it's kind of a safety valve when we have some of the absolutely worst things that can happen in a civil society that being the death of our our people our citizens by sworn officers so how is it how do we in ontario respond to that well since 1992 we haven't had a we haven't had a real riot look at the us i mean you know they have so many riots down there they can't keep up with them right so and and and i know in the u.s i know they do not have very good accountability and and they pay as a society they pay big time and you know the police should care about this issue because look what happened was in louisiana where a grand jury we don't have grand juries here but but the grand jury did not indict in the death of a young black woman yeah two police officers were shot after that if you start to lose faith in the oversight agencies to that degree you just facilitating vigilantism and this is not like an ethereal concept i'm talking about here i'm talking about you know these are police officers getting shot wild that was wild and i mean you know i knock on wood canada never goes down that road but uh but you're right if there's a total loss in faith that's where you start to head but lawyer clayton ruby says there is a total loss of faith in police oversight to him the siu was and is an empty promise and i think everyone went in with high hopes but it didn't work and it didn't work horribly why didn't it work in your opinion i think because the message from government was we're doing this to assuage public anger over a couple of killings or violent episodes but our hearts not in it what we really want is what we've always wanted we want quiet is that why you call it a fake organization it is a fake organization it's designed to look like a real unit but it is not no and they never brought this is silly um stop pretending that we have a discipline system internally that works it does not work but we see time and time again i mean there are officers who have had three four or five disciplinary measures taken again against them and yet they're sent right back out in the street with their gun in their badge that's right that's worse than the united states you see the people with the highest number of complaints forget acted on or not 70 80 complaints and they're still on the street having a great time with a gun no it's irresponsible but we do not govern the police the police govern us so in the end why did shane donovan shoot nathan parker on this road back in 2018 well it turns out it was all a matter of police discipline in a sworn statement donovan says parker left his post without permission during a crash investigation when parker returned an argument broke out donovan says parker punched him repeatedly so donovan then drew his service revolver he says parker did the same donovan shot him repeatedly he says fearing for his life donovan is now suing niagara regional police and the police board for two million dollars claiming they failed to properly discipline parker when they knew he was dangerous and violent and for employing parker when he was known to have an uncontrollable temper and abuse his authority to harm individuals parker's criminal trial is now set for september parker didn't respond to our multiple requests for an interview however his lawyer is quoted as saying from the defense perspective the wrong man the victim is going to trial at first i thought oh parker's brother phil hopes the trial will finally put an end to his brother's career as a cop for the good of everyone he should have been fired that would be wonderful if there is a positive outcome from this horrible tragedy i'm really sorry for what shane donovan had to go through because that must have been torture to be charged with a capital crime the capital crime of surviving my brother anyone who knows my brother anyone who's been a witness or the target of his violence would automatically know that he would have been forced to act in self-defense there was no question in my mind this time he picked the wrong victim that bully picked a victim who knew how to defend himself [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] you
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Channel: The Fifth Estate
Views: 1,897,379
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Keywords: Police, policing, investigation, Niagara, pelham, Ontario, shooting, Nathan Parker, Shane donovan, stcatharines, policebrutality, siu, specialinvestigationsunit, canada, guns, news
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Length: 43min 17sec (2597 seconds)
Published: Fri Feb 12 2021
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