The identities of the six Trump coconspirators. Sara, what can you tell us? That's right, Wolf. As you noted, there are six coconspirators who are unnamed in this indictment. We are prepared to identify five of them at this point based on reporting from our CNN team. I think most notably the first unindicted coconspirator who again is unnamed in this indictment, we have identified as Rudy Giuliani, the indictment notes. This is someone who called the Arizona speaker of the House. That was Rusty Bowers, somebody who made a presentation before Georgia state lawmakers and the person that Donald Trump tapped to lead his post-election legal efforts. That is all Rudy Giuliani. Number two in this indictment is former Trump attorney John Easily. And this is the person who wrote this two page memo. This was the plan for Mike Pence to be able to essentially overturn the 20, 20 presidential election while presiding over the Electoral College certification. Number three on this list, another former Trump attorney, Sidney Powell, they point out that she filed a lawsuit against the governor of Georgia, which we knew. They also point out in this indictment that Donald Trump was espousing the theories of this coconspirator, even though he had privately admitted that they sounded crazy. We know all of that to be Sidney Powell, coconspirator number four on this list. As someone we've talked about a lot. Former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark, the indictment identifies him as a justice, Justice Department official. It also points to an email that a top DOJ person sent to Clark rebutting his efforts to try to use the department to overturn the 2020 election. And again, number five, we have approached another pro-Trump lawyer. This is Kenneth Cesaro. He was someone who was very involved in this fake electors plot. The indictment points to an email memorandum that he sent to Giuliani on this in December of 2020 about the fake electors plot. So based on everything that we have previously reported, everything we know what our sources are telling us and of course, the work of the House committee that investigated January six. Those are the five coconspirators that we are prepared to identify at this point, notably all attorneys who worked alongside Donald Trump in this effort to try to overturn the 2020 election Wolf. Really significant reporting. Thank you very much for that, Sara. Erin. All right, Wolf. And of course, now you can go through this. And when it says coconspirator, one, two, three, four and five, fill in those names. I want to go now to Caitlin Polanco outside the courthouse. And Caitlin, on the back of Sara's reporting. You have new information about something here in this indictment. What are you learning Well, Erin, we are now learning that the senior campaign adviser who is signified in this indictment as one of the people who was giving Donald Trump the harshest assessment that there was no fraud after the election that would overturn the vote. That person is Jason Miller. I have been able to confirm that. I've reached out to a representative of his and received no comment back, but I have been able to confirm that. That is indeed Jason Miller. And this episode is just one of the highlights of how the special counsel's office was using information that the close advisers to Donald Trump on the campaign, people who even stuck with him after the 2020 election, Miller continued to work with Donald Trump, continues to work with him. These are people who were telling him that there wasn't fraud and that Donald Trump and the alleged coconspirators or the coconspirators in this indictment who are not charged at this time that those people were doing something anomalous with what the campaign knew that there wasn't fraud. And this particular mention of Jason Miller in the charging document, it notes that he spoke with Donald Trump on a daily basis, informed him on multiple occasions that fraud claims were untrue, informed him that ballot stuffing that was being alleged in Georgia was not happening that there were not a number of dead voters in Georgia that would be sizable enough to swing the election. And he wrote in an email, this is according to the indictment on December 8th so a month after the election before the Trump electors come together to try and certify Trump won. Jason Miller writes in an email, When our research and campaign legal team can't back up any of the claims made by our elite Strikeforce legal team, you can see why we're zero 32 on our cases. I'll obviously hustle to help on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy beamed down from the mothership. So that's what Jason Miller senior campaign advisor was saying to Donald Trump. And yet Trump and the coconspirators in the indictment continued on pushing this myth of election fraud. All right, Caitlin Polanco, thank you very much. A pretty powerful sentence there from Jason Miller. And there was an expletive in there, too. I'll I'll obviously hustle up on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy, expletive beamed down from the mothership. That's the level of disdain and disgust expressed by one of Trump's key inner circle individuals charged with putting this forward again and again. Telling Trump it was false. I want to go now to Ty Cobb, the former Trump White House lawyer. And, Ty, I know you've had a chance to read through all 45 pages of this indictment. What stands out to you so far? Several things, I think, is that, as we discussed previously, in terms of what to expect, you know, that we've got exactly what we expected, which was a very, very detailed, laborious, easy to follow narrative of exactly why Donald Trump failed the country and put his own interests over those of the United States. It it is There is nothing in here that's gratuitous. There's nothing in here that's obscure. It's very easily understood. And I think most sane Americans reading this will understand that something very grave happened. I would like to articulate the gravity of this, but I can't possibly do better than the letter from Judge Luttig. That was the same Judge Luttig that was just moments ago. Read on. On your air. I think he is has always been a straight shooter. I think he, like me, feels that the Republican Party really cannot sustain itself without an abject rejection of Trump and a recognition that he needs to go into the rear view. And I think he's a great statesman when he said what he said about the significance and consequences of this day, having to take this, you know, sad step with regard to a former president. And our Jamie Gangel just sharing that statement that she obtained from Judge Luttig. Is there anything Ty, as you read through, you say that there's nothing gratuitous in here. Is there anything that you think is not here that should be here? Is there anything that is missing No, I don't. I don't believe so. I think it's I think it is this the states, the charges in a very understandable way and in a very and in a difficult way, because he's the only defendant, it makes it very difficult for Trump to deflect blame here and to spin it. Now, having said that, you know, the reference to the to the coconspirators is that they are coconspirators, not that they're unindicted coconspirators, which raises the possibility they may well have been indicted and justice may be following, you know, the traditional step that justice follows of not announcing an indictment unless a defendant is, you know, arrested and or arraigned. So it's it's it's conceivable that there is a fuller indictment upcoming. It's conceivable that some of these people have already pled guilty. It's conceivable that some people may read this, some of the people and they may read this and and go ahead and and plead but I don't believe that, you know, anybody who is listed as a coconspirator was surprised to see themselves mentioned in the way they are today. Right. And of course, we have identified Sara Murray was just reporting five of the six, the six being a campaign or political consultant who was instrumental. Right. And there's a few people that that could possibly be. But we're not going to, you know, make assumptions here until we know for sure. But we do know who all of the others are. Interesting, Ty, that you say that they could have already pled or that they could already be charged. We just don't know. And we don't know the status of any of those. I do wonder, Ty, your view on the timing here. We were having a robust conversation a few moments ago about whether the American people deserve a verdict in this case from a jury of their own peers ahead of an election. Given that this alleges that a former president tried to, you know, basically stage a coup and it lays it all out. Do you think that there's any chance that that happens, that there is a verdict in this case before the actual election? 20. 24? I think there's an outside chance. I do think this raises some this case raises. Unlike Mar a Lago. This case raises some significant First Amendment issues. And Jack Smith alludes to what Trump's First Amendment rights are. And accurately. Yeah, right at the beginning. And accurately identifies, you know, where those rights, you know, meet the wall, you know, at the at the point of, you know, the deception and conspiracy that are charged. I want to apologize if I said that the coconspirators may have actually already pled out. What I meant to say if I said that was they may have already agreed to plead because had they pled, we would know that. All right. Well, Ty, thank you very much. And thank you for that. Making that clear I appreciate it.
