White Jamaican on Growing Up In Kin-gston, TikTok Fame, & Speaking Patois | Sidequestz

so are you really Jamaican yeah we can tell say you a ganger me a ganger recognize you are you think um you could te this for me all some in the leg turn over back bend up everything shot everything yeah man if I met myself I wouldn't believe me either do you like Jamaican women yeah how would you flirt with a non- Jamaican girl and then how would you flirt with the Jamaican girl honestly I think I'd go for like a vulnerable angle right so try but we're going to do like a little Improv just go ahead just try it hey what's so little mama oh hey I got to say I love your curly hair thanks you like that so what's up um I don't know man okay for negative RIS was making it tough as the beard yeah yeah yeah a lot of guys say that but what about Pat you might be a little better with Jamaican one y going baby do hey y know say look good you I'mma come beat up the cervix see I went too far Gideon I appreciate you being here bro no worries man thank you for having me I'm a fan of you I'm a fan of you I watch your content I laugh a lot I was even listening to it today and there's just like [ __ ] that you've done that I didn't even know you did and I'm like oh this is my new favorite thing hell yeah the one I watched today that I thought was so funny was uh excuse me fake security guard people just going yo where's the Apple Store you go oh yeah you just go two down that way make a right trying to suck my own dick and then you'll see right at the end of the hallway bro that [ __ ] was killing me and then obviously the thing that got me hooked on you was uh all the Patwa stuff yep and so I'm watching this and I'm just like dude this is so funny that this white dude learned Jamaican Patwa there's no way like how do you do that and then I meet you at sh's party the other night and you tell me oh yeah I'm Jamaican and I was like oh didn't even cross my mind I think think I'm racist the fact that I saw you I was like I me obviously you are but N I don't think so a lot of times people would be like in the comments it'd be like oh you know he's Jamaican like y'all are racist for thinking that all Jamaicans are black but it's like it's understandable like if I met myself I wouldn't [ __ ] believe me either you ain't Jamaican that's a deep that's a deep sentence though if I Met Myself yeah have you met yourself dude not yet not yet dude you got do more more psychedelics and then you'll truly meet yourself you meet you forget yourself yeah dude something will happen so you were born where in Miami in Miami yeah and your parents you were telling me like your parents like had you there intentionally kind of vibe um no like so my dad is is full Jamaican but my mom was living in Miami when they first got together yeah and she had her her doctor in in Miami who gave birth to like my older brothers and she just liked that doctor yeah and wanted to have all her kids with that doctor yeah so my family was already well my mom was living with my dad in Jamaica but she had me in Miami and then took me to Jamaica how do you time that though that the timing of that seems tricky right I don't know you got to ask her about that like yo like do you just come over like at eight months yeah I I wonder sometimes I I feel what if you were trying to be slick and pop out you know a little early exactly she probably went like yeah she was probably there for her um uh pregnancy cuz her mom was like still living in Miami so maybe she was staying with the mom I don't know I should get the details on that he should figure that out dude and then immediately like how quickly after that did you move to Jamaica um I feel like in my head I want to say like two weeks but that seems kind of early to fly with a baby right dude I feel like she told me two weeks but maybe I got that number wrong two weeks definitely I mean I was Zero at least you know I don't know how long as soon as she could fly back to Jamaica how do you even fly with a baby though do you know what I'm saying like yeah you get a passport for this little [ __ ] that's a good question you know what I mean like at a certain point I think babies are just free yeah you should be like it's a baby like what are they really going to do they're not going to steal jobs yeah exactly from anybody unless they're actors yeah that's a good point you could have a baby actor come through like they're not criminals I don't think babies really do crime that much not that much not that I'm familiar with I've never heard of a baby crime but you even say a little p you're like this is some [ __ ] that could only happen in Jamaica you know what I'm saying infant with a knife you know exactly bro it's not of more Australian I think you guys we're you'll teach me PW by I will say now that uh I'm impressed with your knowledge of p and your vocabul like earlier you called me a fish yes which that's a deep cut I say I didn't appreciate it but you said it and I respected it you know yeah on the one hand I won't even say it for the people who don't know what it means but you can Google it yeah yeah Google it Google image search it mhm mhm go to pornhub.com and search fish just yeah exactly you'll see what you want to see yeah no that's uh that was told to me by a Jamaican woman that worked at a bank that I used to uh that I used to frequent and she was like kind of H me like early Finance stuff and uh I think she called me a fish and I was like I was like what I was like what does that mean and then she explained it and I was like it's kind of hurtful but also maybe I deserved it that's bold that she would call you that to your face and then just explain laugh at yeah I forget exactly the context I think maybe she said I was acting like a fish or something like I think I did something it's funny you also called me atim man and there is a little bit of a distinction apparently because I have a friend a gay friend in Jamaica who's one of the very few probably openly gay people I know from the island cuz it's a very homophobic place but he's like the [ __ ] coolest he's like the only person who could be opening G in Jamaica and everyone still respects him just man and he said to me one time he like man me but so he's saying he's a fish but he's not a b man so I was like okay I didn't know there was a difference but we don't know the difference there yeah what's what's the difference I guess like a btim man is just more of like just more of a b man you know I don't know how else to say you know I think I feel like just even the way you said it I understand exactly what it is it just has a little more of a hit to it or even a batty boy cuz then it has the alliteration aspect an alliteration insult is going to hit way harder but fish is also like you don't want to be called a fish in Jamaica it goes so far as like if if you um you don't want to like say you eat fish so people would say like oh yeah I did eat some sea creature they call Fish sea creature or they'll call it swim around own H swim around swim cuz I don't want to say fish cuz fish has such a connotation yeah that is so funny it's hilarious in Jamaica the kind of way they will twist around language to not say certain things bro I love Jamaicans gosh there's like there's a place in Jamaica called Mandeville but you don't want to say man they call it gille you know they'll always do things like that gille the funniest one I heard was uh this dope reg arst one of my favorit szla kalangi and in an interview somebody asked him about his career and he's like n my no career I was like that's a stretch but it's funny as [ __ ] is a car beginning you're like who beginning there you go yeah it's a car start yeah yeah but it's interesting because it originates from resta like um the way they talk is they kind of change words to remove negative connotation so like they don't say understand they say overand and they don't say like like falling in love they say standing in love and the most tricky one is instead of you and I they say I and I to sort of represent the concept that we're all one but it gets confusing when we talking to rest like yeah man the I have to go over there and then I did this and I it's like am I die or you die I'm confused bro that is both parts like beautiful and also extremely inconvenient yeah bro you summed it up perfectly that's so funny and so you lived in Kingston is that is that you moved to yeah so that's where my dad's from um grew up there went to school there and then when I was like 14 I left I went to boarding school I was telling you about the other night yeah yeah and so your dad is ethnically Palestinian but lived in Jamaica basically most of his life yeah so like the basic story is my I guess it would have been my great great-grandfather so it was like I'm the fifth generation my great great-grandfather immigrated to Jamaica from Palestine how long ago was that late 1800s bro that's crazy and so your dad lived in Jamaica's whole life yeah and his dad was born my father born and raised Jamaica my grandfather Bor and raised in Jamaica and then my my great-grandfather and my great great-grandfather together immigrated to Jamaica that is wild so does your dad have like a full thick Jamaican accent like Liv there his whole life kind of my dad has interesting accent which um is kind of this like it's kind of like we call it like the Uptown accent or the um Upper St Andrew accent and it's like it sounds almost a little British MH but he also like spent a lot of time in America growing up cuz his mom was from Brooklyn my dad so my grandma is from Brooklyn oh interesting so my dad like I think went to school in in New York when he was like um in his teens so he has a little bit of an American accent too interesting and then how did he meet your mom College oh really H so he went to college somewhere else he went to college in New York dropped out my dad would like I don't know if he would want me to say this but I mean [ __ ] it he was like a drug addict I guess an alcoholic yeah I don't know what he was doing but he was doing something and not school he was doing not school not school so he dropped out and was just like in Jamaica just getting loaded I guess for years and then eventually went to rehab got clean went back to college when he was like in his late 30s met a little bad ting exactly brought her back to Jamaica as we do as we do as his Jamaican culture you know and then and then you're born bro yeah that is so crazy and so you spend most of your time in in Kingston growing up like as a white dude living in Kingston what is the treatment like how are you perceive by like the locals like well I am a local so that's a that's a good distinction I'm going to apologize for that okay okay I get two more of those okay and after that I think you're allowed to fight me no no you I think you kicked my ass so I'll give you 10 more I get 10 more okay fine thank you so I guess by how would you describe it because you know what I'm trying to say but I'm trying to think of the way that people would see it because I guess what people think Jamaica obviously they're think black people which is not true you know in the in the whole scheme of things there's Jamaicans that are Chinese they just making all colors but generally people think they think black people so right as a white dude growing up in in Kingston are how are you perceived by black Jamaicans and then how are you perceived by non- Jamaicans that are expecting you to be black when you say you're Jamaican yeah yeah both good questions um in Jamaica it's less of a thing than it is in America cuz Jamaicans know there are white Jamaicans um I get asked sometimes if there's like any if I feel like I've been subjected to racism because white people are a minority in in Jamaica and I say usually I I don't if if there's ever been a time where I feel like my race has been issued it's rare you know and it's never been something over I think Jamaicans are one of the least racist people that I've ever experienced obviously there's a level of racism everywhere in the world but I think they're pretty they just don't really think like that I think classism is more of a thing you know I'm obviously from like a a richer family and you know what they call Uptown Jamaica so I understand if there's like a level of animosity towards like the upper class Jamaicans but it's not it's not race right and that exists everywhere right like yeah like yeah there's going to be like class feuds or animosity that exists but aside from that they definitely like growing up I did always feel a little bit of an odd one out just cuz if you're a kid and you're walking around you realize I'm the only white person here MH I feel a little uncomfortable you know and I was a shy kid so definitely I remember growing up and always thinking like I wish I was black cuz it just I'd fit in I think every kid just wants to fit in you know hey even in America I also think that yeah people are just [ __ ] cool you listen to rap music and watch basketball you're like I think I was born in the wrong skin cuz that [ __ ] looks awesome especially like our generation I feel like you know we grew up on rap music it's like we all wanted to be black yeah exactly um but it was I think twofold growing up in Jamaica you know right did you ever have like an awareness of your race growing up like at what point did you realize like oh I'm not black you know what I mean do you remember that moment or was it a gradual thing I don't remember but it definitely comes like like I think it's true that kids don't really think about race not at all it it's definitely came later where you start to realize and people start you know saying like oh you're white or you're this or you're that MH um but I will say it's it wasn't it was a very small issue in my life and race is doesn't really play into everyday life in Jamaica I think that much are there ever like funny stereotypes about white people in Jamaica that's a good question none that I can think of but I'm sure there are but also there are distinctions like I'm technically what they would call like the Syrian or the Arab like Jamaicans like Middle Eastern Jamaicans right is where is like my background which is a bigger like there's more like Middle Eastern Jamaicans than there are like European Jamaicans right see this is why I always say like race is socially constructed like it exists because we make it so because like you are Jamaican which obviously is a culture it's not a race but you are Jamaican and in Jamaica you are Arab yeah and then here you're white you know I mean like it is you you haven't changed at all but you go to a different place and you have a completely different classification exactly like ethnically which is just so wild and another thing that uh is interesting about Jamaica is there's also a distinction between like black and brown like in um America like if you're sort of biracial and you know they call you like light-skinned but in Jamaica that's like almost a different race in itself so you call that like um like a brown man and sometimes I've been referred to as a brown man and that's like the highest honor for me and I feel it's like when I when I'll see someone on the road and they like they don't want to disrespect disrespect me by calling me like a white man like yo white boy so I say yo brown boy and oh hilarious that's like a a badge of honor for me to be to be called a brown boy yeah so so brown boy literally mean someone that would be like mixed race yeah mixed race oh interesting so yeah we say lightskinn in America yeah and that's brown there m now what if you're like Indian they call it [ __ ] and I don't know I don't think it's a slur I don't think it's an offensive thing I definitely don't mean it I have my best a lot of my best friends in Jamaica are Indian but that's the word [ __ ] [ __ ] so you say like a [ __ ] man you know where that comes from I have no idea I thought about it like where the [ __ ] did that come from it's a cool nickname yeah yeah cool as hell yeah I mean that is so interesting yeah and then are there different forms of patat on the depending on which part of Jamaica you're in um that's a good question I mean there's like like I said like a lot of people would say what the kind of path I talk is like Upper St Andrew St Andrew is like uh the parish that Kingston is inh and um I talk basically like an uptown boy from Kingston um and then there's you know kind of more thicker you could say mhm like if you're out in the country in Jamaica you might talk differ yeah but I don't know if regionally there's that many distinctions between the PTO people talk yeah it's kind of more just levels to like how thick is your p and how because it is basically just a variation of English so like the closer you get to like the queen's English or the further it's kind of more like a scale I guess right but um yeah that's a good question though that's really interesting I wish there was more like um study on like the language because there's no like officially recognized written form there's not much um like history about it that you can find right and what are you taught in school like about like Patwa like are you taught are you taught in school like queen's English like British English in my school there was no nothing about pwa that we would learned you I mean you get like Jamaican History but they don't really talk about pathway at least not as far as I can remember yeah um but yeah all schools teach in English you know it's the official language is English yeah yeah and so many of your videos like you're just going up to people just like random dudes in Jamaica and you're just asking them a question and then it Sparks a full conversation like is that pretty common for Jamaican culture to be pretty open to just like a random dude coming up and talk to you yeah I think Jamaican people are some of the most outgoing people um and like I said growing up I was kind of shy but like it's very like Jamaican culture is super outgoing and like it's hard to be like shy in Jamaica almost because they're so like just you know so warm yeah that's what it seems like it seems like there's a real cultural warmth yeah that you could just walk up to any dude be like like literally like you walk up yo siki and just start talking and they'll just listen and and they'll ask you questions and like you're just in a combo what does siki mean by the way short for security yeah siki is security guard oh yo siki yeah oh that's so funny mhm and so if you're talking to a dude just like in downtown Kingston do you change the dialect at all or like is it just how you would normally speak like back home um it sort of depends you know I'll sort of fluctuate just between speaking you know just regular English and patha just depending on the vibe yeah um it just kind of depends like what what vibe or like you know yeah and same thing with with Alm like they can talk path they can just talk like normal English yeah it just depends on what you're trying to convey or like how you're trying to say so so now when you're in America if you meet white people like me and you're like yo I'm Jamaican and they're like no but really like how does that make you feel what is like the energy there you're like what are you talking about I'm I'm Jamaican like do I have to prove it to you or like if you meet like are there ever Jamaicans that don't believe you or is it pretty much off rip they're like Oh no you're legit here's the thing Jamaicans who are actually from Jamaica will believe me because like I said they know that there's white Jamaicans it's not like new to them right but like the diaspora or like second generation Jamaicans who were born and raised in America they sometimes won't believe they'll give you the you ain't Jamaican I'm Jamaican you know but in Jamaica you don't really get that um oh that's interesting and it's frustrating you know to have to constantly like trying to justify where you're from because it's like I'll tell people I'm Jamaican and then they don't believe me it's like I don't want to have to prove to someone something as basic as where I'm from right like sometimes I think it'd be easier just to be like oh yeah yeah I'm from Michigan cool let's move on you know yeah it's it's like not bad if you have to have that conversation once but you have to have it every time you meet somebody know it gets boring um it's very rare that I'll meet someone I'll be like Oh I'm from Jamaica and okay cool it's always some and even if they do believe me it's like oh that's so interesting like which is cool you know for them to um want to hear about it but it's always a conversation you yeah yeah and did you were you ever like not embarrassed of it but like were you ever like H I don't want to do this and then that ever change like did that ever change as you got older like do you wear it now as like a badge of honor like yo I'm really proud to be Jamaican I'd love to tell people about this culture I grew up in I'm very proud to be Jamaican but it is sometimes I don't want to get into the explanation you know and like I said I understand if people don't believe it cuz like if I Met Myself talking like how I normally talk in America I'd also be like are you really Jamaican yeah um so it's understandable but you know it's a little frustrating I don't really try to prove if I just be like it is what it is yeah you know yeah you me like you bro Jamaicans have the best nicknames they do that's like that's like a feel like an an unknown like Jamaican Quirk like they'll just meet a dude one time and they're like oh yeah like uh he's missing an arm so that's that's like one arm Ricky like one one one bro it's like how does that come up and what are the best nicknames that you've heard growing up in Jama dude my my my bro was telling me this hilarious story the other day cuz we're talking about the same thing like Jamaicans and their nicknames he went to like his car fix somewhere and the guy was like yeah man just go around the corner and just go ask for ugly and he was with his mom and his mom was like I'm not going to scream out for ugly he's like no man that's his name to go so they drive around the corner like yo ugly and then in my friend's words he was like so he comes on Cor and let me tell you this man's nickname was justified but Jamaicans they're just so bold they just say it as it is you know if you're ugly that's your [ __ ] nickname yeah if you're short sh man if you're tall tall man you know they'll just call you what you are did you ever get nicknames so like you obviously have gids yeah or G probably it's one of those things where I feel like if you have kind of like a already unique name you don't really need a nickname because there's no other Gideons really um or Mam's not cool enough to have been given a nickname um but that you know G some people say I got gzilla which I went yeah yeah um oh that's far and you you were saying before like you have an affinity for Jamaican food yeah which like I I don't know it's an interesting thing like depending on where you grow up Jamaican food might not be available like in in the states like in New York you find Jamaican food in Florida where I grew up there's great Jamaican food like if you grow up in like Ohio I don't know no no [ __ ] on Ohio but I don't know if they got good Jamaican F I don't know I know some Jamaicans in Ohio really bro Americans are everywhere do they have restaurants though who knows I mean they need an Oxdale cart or something like that should be a part of it it should we need it I mean it's a little bit like less um popular than some other like ethnic foods you get here like obviously Mexican is very common you can probably get that everywhere but um I mean it'll surprise you I think where you'll find a Jamaican restaurant yeah yeah and there's obviously like the the infamous kind of um stereotype about Jamaican restaurants where they never [ __ ] have anything that you want oh really have you heard this no yeah it's like a known thing you go into a Jamaican restaurant and you'll be like let me get oxtail and be like when not have that it's like Oxdale just done I all right well let me get the [ __ ] Fried Chicken when I have that that's kind of like the The Stereotype and it is true really like they [ __ ] never have anything and so what what's the best you're saying the best Jamaican dish is fried chicken um obviously that's not like um a traditionally Jamaican dish that people think of but that's my go-to when you go to a lot of Jamaican restaurants they just have really fire Fried Chicken yeah yeah yeah what are like other dishes you're like yo if you go to Jamaican restaurant this is what you need obviously the oxtail but I understand sometimes I don't really want to get it cuz it's a lot of bone but it is delicious I feel like you get more bang for your buck with some other things yeah um rice and peas is obviously a staple rice and peas yeah my favorite thing is fried planting when I was a kid all I ate was fried planed really yeah and when did you start getting into art growing up always always been in even from Young yeah it was like always my thing my mom's an artist she's a painter and it was just always my thing did you play sports at all grown up a little bit but like what didn't call you in the way art did yeah I'm I'm not good at sports I'm not I like it I still play a little bit you know I go to the basketball court near my house and get schooled by like middle schoolers but it's still fun and what sports were popular in Jamaica where you were growing up uh football soccer you know um and Cricket oh the big ones yeah track and field is is like our biggest I guess cuz that's that's like what Jamaican really excels at we we're good at Cricket too but track and field is obviously where we Excel but were you living there when you say Bol was winning gold medals yeah what was the energy around him incredible you know I'm not super into sports and I'm not even super patriotic but that like watching B and asafa Powell and Blake like um win those races like really sparked in me just like just super proud you know to watch it and just see your country represent and just do something that was really kind of just like unheard of really the way they dominated in track and field you ever you ever see him I've seen him around you know like I'm probably like the only person in [ __ ] Jamaica who doesn't have like a picture with B you know he's around you know yeah yeah and he's a really chill guy I've never personally like hung out with him or talked to him but I know people have and he's like super chill yeah super cool guy did your siblings play sports at all like were they as immersed in the culture as you were my family were were not that good at sports honestly we're like artist and musicians yeah my eldest brother Jude is um I feel like he played a little bit of sport he was in England for a while maybe did a little bit of rugby yeah maybe like I don't know I don't think he was good so you never got we skated oh like skateboarding yeah we all skated is there a skate culture in Jamaica not really like you would find spots and like do like Street skating or there's a par yeah it's hard to skate in Jamaica but we we did our best you know yeah yeah um there's not a huge culture there but and you would do that with your brothers yeah and still do a little bit really yeah still skate and so your oldest brother and then a sister or another brother so I got my eldest brother Jude and then another one Noah who's a musician and then my little brother beans beans you know he he got the nickname why it's just one of those ones you know you always had it it's really name is balazar that's a cool name it's a cool name it's kind of long yeah so somehow he got a nickname beans he's beans and then I have my little sister oh that's cool oh that's a lot of you yeah oh that's awesome yo what's the deal with Jamaican daggering what's up guys we are going to take a break from this amazing conversation with Gideon AKA side quests because you need to sleep better yep that's right did you know that you're going to spend probably 26 years of your life sleeping that's a long time the average person will spend 26 years sleeping one thing I always tell people and one thing I believe for myself you will never regret the money that you invest in sleeping better truly everything ripples from that how well you work out how quickly you think the next day how well you perform in your job I notice my shows are better at night when I get a good night's sleep that's just the way that it goes sleep is the essence and the Genesis of all good things in my life so what if I told you that there was a powder that you could take to help you fall asleep quicker and stay 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we were kids like 13 14 and we would have parties you know and this like before we're drinking and we're just you're just daggering bro and like trying to climb up on some [ __ ] and like try and do some crazy moves um yeah I mean that's kind of the culture you know you listen to dance H and you whine and you dager but and whing whining is more chill right whining is like yeah that's kind of more we're from Uptown we're kind of more into the whining you know taking it easy but I remember as a kid trying to emulate some of those so some of those moves you know really yeah and you would you would fracture your penis or no no I I don't think I can even get a boner bro I was like 12 I mean is that like a real thing or is it like a stunt that people do like it's a thing but it's not like hugely common I think there's some parties where it just gets like intense and it's like one of those things where people are trying to always outdo each other yeah the funniest have you seen when they put the WWE commentary over the video these are the ones I'm I'm talking about like that [ __ ] is so crazy that dude jumps off the turnbuckle like goes like pelvis in yeah it's insane it makes me want to try yeah I mean that's not the norm that you'll see at the Jamaican party but it's pry dance hall is the norm yeah is is Shawn Paul is he Jamaican yeah is that's like is that common to hear sha the Paul like yeah Shawn Paul is one of the most internationally recognized Dance artist and he's he's the one that crossed over you know what I mean and he's so good like he deserves it he's that dude has hits after hit bro he's so good but what other dance hall is good that people don't know that people don't know like is there like an artist that you're like yo this is like act like my favorite dude but he doesn't get American play I'd say um yeah a lot of them I mean a lot of them are known but maybe don't get the that extent of like publicity in America I really like busy signal he like my favorite growing up um assassin idonia Mavado like that was kind of like the OG generation when I was growing up now it's like a bunch of newer artists that I'm not as familiar with um who are still good but it's different and I don't want to sound like an old guy who was like oh back in my day but back in my day like when I was a teenager it was like I think like the Golden Era of dinosa we had some really good [ __ ] and then you have like elephant man you know Elephant Man so he was one of those guys who like was kind of leading like the dance like uh Trends you know you know how they have it in hip-hop where there's like the dance Trends you have a song the dance that goes with it yeah he was kind of doing all those and that was a pretty pretty fun time to be to be around you know you learn to dance and you you go to the dance and you bust it out it's like it's just a good being in that culture like do you do you have an affinity for Jamaican women yeah of course I like I mean I love all types of people but I could see myself really settling down with a Jamaican woman but was that your first kid Jamaican girl yeah hell yeah dude and like all your girlfriends growing up probably Jamaica right honestly I didn't have that many girlfriends come Ono not that good with come on bro come on bro don't don't sell yourself short like that kids you know how you said we could cut Parts out cut no I'm kidding keep it in I'll keep it real yeah um I mean honestly like growing up in Jamaica there was and I'm from what they call like Uptown it's a pretty small community and I I think like things get kind of clicky and I feel like I got kind of maybe put off just like dating within that sort of community I see um Uptown yeah within Uptown Jamaica just cuz it's very like you know you get like a lot of gossip and people like to talk like with any sort of community of course but um jamaic women are [ __ ] awesome bro yeah right yeah like cook well dagger a little wine that's thing to not have to whine bro I need a girl can whine yeah do you remember your first kiss yeah what happened so I was uh in the back of the car with like my older brother's friend and boy or girl uh boy just like my older brother's homies but he asking if I kissed that boy no it was a girl mean got [ __ ] a fish I know you call me a fish but the girl was a woman and she was a little bit older than me and I had just eaten like a bag of cheesy Doritos and I was just you know Nacho cheesed out and then the homie was like yo Gideon's never kissed a girl why you don't kiss him and she was bless her heart she was so yeah I'll kiss him so she like goes and kisses me I'm just like what the [ __ ] yeah I'm like super nervous I'm only 13 and I have a mouth full of Doritos and she like makes out with me it was awesome and then um she pulls away and she's like yo he's a better kisser than you I was like a oh I mean obviously she was just hyping me up shout out to that girl I don't know her name or where she's from or anything about her but shout out for my first kiss sorry for the Doritos no that's nice I feel like right like if you're going to do a first kiss I'd rather take Doritos and something else yeah you know what I mean like 13-year-old breath is gross yeah not that I would know but it is probably gross you know like I feel like cheese like a Cheesy Dorito snack is actually kind of nice mid makeup I guess could be worse you know what I mean you know yeah braces plus the braces is a little brutal it's a whole awkward thing you know how it is being 13 um but you laid it down were you like were you glowing off that like a whole week you were like bro I was living off that for weeks bro you told your boys back at school you're like yo no one talked to me you don't know me anymore exactly I'm on a different level yeah yeah I was a boy last time you saw me I'm a man I'm a man yeah man I felt really cool I mean that's dope yeah and so you turn 14 and then and then you get deported yeah I got deported you get kicked out exactly wait what happens you go to boarding school yeah I went to boarding school in Spain originally cuz my mom is from Spain mhm where in Spain Madrid so you go to Madrid yeah and are you sad about leaving the island are you sad about leaving Jamaica yeah for sure obviously you know it's a young age to sort of leave all your friends behind and leave your family behind um but also it's like also exciting in a way you know yeah you got all this new [ __ ] and you're like yeah I'm going to go out there and pave my way yeah and the cool thing about it is like you you're a teenager but you don't live with your parents you kind of can do whatever you want yeah I mean you have to answer the teachers to an extent but my school in Spain was so laid back we could kind of do whatever the [ __ ] we wanted it was actually hell of fun but then I got expelled like first semester that quick that quick yeah it was too much fun what was it for smoking weed so did they catch you did you get drug tested drug tested yeah you get drug tested like every semester type [ __ ] no it here's the thing it was so chill but we kind of like um took advantage of it and we were whing out and like it was this one week where um I don't think I went to class a whole week we just stayed in our dorm like smoking weed um sneaking out of the school drinking and then the dude who was like in charge of the boarding house thingy um he just kind of was like yo enough enough I'm sick of these kids I'm going to drug test them cuz they know we smoke weed like it was like a thing it wasn't a big deal yeah um he just wanted to like crack down and and yeah so I got kicked out I was mad sad about it cuz I actually had a really good time there damn yeah and how do you even get weed in Spain at that time like you just bro it was actually tough at that time it was like most of the year we couldn't get weed we could only get like hash mhm and it was like this is like 15 years ago probably right I was 14 so yeah it was like 15 years ago yeah um we'd mostly smoke hash if it was like the right season you could get weed but we'd smoke hash and you'd like you'd like mix it in with tobacco roll it up in a it was seasonal weed though it was like seasonal yeah it's like the MC rib you know what I mean you only get it start exactly and you appreciate it when it comes around exactly yeah yeah oh weed isn't season this is like free range weed this is great it was it was yeah it was great was it was the Spanish weed any good though compared to Jamaica weeds I don't really remember so long ago I mean I was just happy to be smoking something you know I wasn't picky back then can you explain the weed culture in Jamaica like where you grew up like like there's a stereotype obviously like yo like Jamaicans are potheads they smoke weed all day yada yada like how true is that and like what is the social cause of like smoking weed in Jamaica right well nowadays everyone smokes weed like and that goes kind of for America too we is basically legal everyone smokes it when I was a kid it was a little bit more frowned upon um everywhere which is you know part of the reason why I got expelled I don't know if they even expel kids for weed no more but back then like it was more serious um and in Jamaica and in my like in the Uptown Community where I'm from it was kind of frowned upon and a lot of people didn't smoke weed another reason why I kind of felt a little bit um like I didn't get along too well with the Uptown crowd people didn't really smoke that we they came around eventually but I feel like when I started it was kind of it was looked down upon a little I think people like look down on it as being like kind of ghetto honestly but me and my friends we love [ __ ] blazing yeah yeah and is it a part of like rosta fari like how familiar are you with like the lifestyle of religion of rosarian ism um I appreciate it and there's a a lot of very interesting knowledge to to get out of that but I'm not hugely knowledgeable about it I mean weed is a part of it I think they view it as sort of a Sacrament honestly I do too I think weed is super um just productive and beneficial as a tool to sort of alter your perspective yeah and I think that's kind of how they view it you ever get paranoid smoking weed though yeah okay so that's okay yeah of course bro you're like dude this is a Sacrament you ever get hate your life you're like yeah definitely yeah I've gotten paranoid and bugged out and felt like a weirdo got like socially awkward bro cuz that's that's what happens to me like sometimes I'll smoke and have the best time like one in four times I'll just start thinking about planets and stuff and then if I start thinking about planets too long then I start getting really bugged out and then I'm like yo how are planets real how are we on a planet right now are the planet are we all just monkeys walking around like it it starts to [ __ ] my head and then I get I I think too much I don't like that absolutely bro I don't like that but I've heard though in Jamaica the weed is like not as potent like yeah like it's mostly outdoor mhm you know so it's not actual weed yeah whereas here it's like God had nothing to do with this weed right you know what I mean like here they're a little bit more advanced in their technology they [ __ ] isolate strains and they crossb I don't know what they're doing but this is wrong in Jamaica it was mostly outdoor now you know they have dispensaries and you get indoor [ __ ] too but yeah growing up it was like you know you would either get like bushweed which is like you know RS or you'd get like a high grade which is like good outdoor ah but it's all outdoor and when I was a kid it was now now they have indoor yeah and generally speaking if you're smoking outdoor weed it's going to be less potent than indoor weed is that fair to say yeah okay interesting pretty much but you were you were telling me before like you weren't smoking weed on like Jamaican culture [ __ ] you were just doing cuz like yo weed is cool and I'm 14 exactly bro yeah yeah like my upbringing was probably similar to like you know a lot of kids it was like you know you're just kids you do kids [ __ ] you smoke weed you steal your parents' Liquor Normal [ __ ] go skate you know yeah except you're in Jamaica then you go to Spain yeah and then you get kicked out what happens when you get kicked out went back to Jamaica for a while oh really it was kind of cool cuz I didn't have to go to school for a while until like my parents figured out what to do with me and what you do in that time I just hung out with my friends and like smoked weed and what what how big is your friend group like the the people you kicked it with like when you go back um these days it's a little bit smaller but even growing up I wasn't the most like social like my older brothers had like you know hell of friends I was a little more you know um introverted and and didn't have as many friends but um I have a solid group of just homies who you know we grew up together and they're like Brothers to me are they all Uptown St Andrews boys or is like all from all over Uptown boys pretty much yeah oh that's cool just I grew up with you know yeah and now in your area specifically are they like uh like brown boys is it like Arab is it like British Jamaicans like what is the dynamic of town diverse you know it's pretty diverse yeah yeah so like yeah everything yeah which I feel like is actually kind of fun because then you get to see the cultural mixing of everything you know what I mean like that's part of the reason I love New York like it's everyone and every different type of mashup like you'll meet an Indian dude with a Scottish accent and you're like I didn't even know that was possible and like they have a restaurant that's amazing you know what I mean they like Japanese Peruvian dude and you're like okay that's a cool hybrid even you I'm like this is like a hybrid that I feel like only exists in New York where like you can like meet people that have really really eclectic interesting backgrounds yeah which I just think is awesome that's what I love about New York too yeah and we were talking about the other night how like when you come from a lot of different places and backgrounds New York is like easy to fit in because everybody here is you know from somewhere else and exactly which I think is like an interesting perspective even on like the content you make and the type of like jokes you like to make and the comedy you make and even probably the art to an extent I know less about art but like you've existed sort of as an outsider in most of the places that you've been in I was telling you this like growing up in Jamaica you're like okay I'm brown boy Arab Jamaican and then I go to Spain and I'm a Jamaican dude that's Arab and then I go to London and I'm Jamaican but I look white and you come to America and you're white but you're still you know what I mean like everywhere you go you're an outsider and then you come to New York and it's a city of Outsiders and then you're like oh finally I have a place where I can seamlessly blend in yeah yeah which is awesome I think that's what draws a a lot of people to the city you know and so then you go to London after you're in Spain and you doart littleit outside of London are you going to Art School there it's just a regular school boarding school do you like being in London I love London really I I often think I if it was if it wasn't so far from Jamaica I'd live there really I love London I love English people they're cool as hell do you find like there's a sensibility between English and Jamaican culture considering that there's so much closeness for sure yeah especially these days I feel like there's just a huge amount of Jamaican influence in the UK and um they're just chill people yeah I like them yeah yeah like even like obviously this is stereotypical but like top boy you know I mean is like an English show but has so much jamaic an influence throughout it and it's really crazy to see how much Jamaican culture is like gone throughout the world like you hear Drake you know like sing patan like speaking patan songs like all through England it's so common has that been interesting for you like growing up like you kind of exist within this French culture and then now it's like democratized where everyone is is absorbing it and like conversing in this type of dialect yeah I love it you know I think it's cool I think growing up I always was like it's a shame other people can't have the appreciation for like Jamaican music that Jamaicans can because to an extent you need to understand a little bit about the culture to like fully appreciate the music so seeing people you know being really just interested in it I I love it you know it's cool like that's the other thing with music is music is all context yeah like it's all like anytime someone's like oh I don't like country I'm like have you ever been out to the country have you ever like been into like the like the South like on like a ranch and like hung out with like ranchers or some [ __ ] because if you do that for like ien a week if you do that for a week like do some campfire [ __ ] feed some chickens country music slaps for real and you only need to get the context once you know what I mean so any person that's like I don't really get dance hall it's like bro go to Jamaica hang with Jamaicans for a week it'll all click and then anytime you hear dance hall forever you'll be like uh but that's a pet peeve of mind when people be like I like everything except country it's like why yeah you just hav't you haven't experienced that you know what I mean and like same with like rap music like you'll hear people that grow up in even the South like people that like country grow up on a farm they don't have any black friends like yeah I don't like rap they just talk about you know shooting people and they say crazy words y ya it's like okay go to a city like even it can be like Regional like the first I like I never really understood New York rap until I moved to New York and I remember the first week that I moved here I listened to like mob deep and like Biggie and then Jay-Z like whole discography like back to back to back and just walked around like took the subway and all of a sudden everything's clicking like the like the energy the vibe the arrogance like the speed of the rhyme scheme like everything's clicking and I've even heard this actually interesting like because the city creates the music in order to appreciate the music you need the city and the way that someone describes this to me is like East Coast versus West Coast rap like east coast rap you'll come you come up in like rap shows in like small basements like you're doing shows in like a tiny like 50 person basement like all like huddled together like you're recording in these tiny little recording studios because space is expensive in New York everything's much more compact everyone's walking around everywhere like every like no one's driving cars and so the music in New York is like pretty fast it's like very like quick it's very lyrical and it's like very much focused on like the bars and then you go to La and La rap is like very like rhythmic and again this is generally speaking but like very like rhythmic it's like cruising music it's [ __ ] you listen to in your car roll the windows down beautiful weather like chill out on the beach smoke weed too like because that is the culture that created the music now I think that with all music yeah there if there's a music that you to and you're like I don't get it it's not the music's fault mhm if it's like a popular genre you know what I mean like like even like metal it's like dude go to like a hang with metal heads you know what I mean go to a metal show go to [ __ ] Norway or whatever the [ __ ] wherever like Scandinavians make like amazing metal music like if you get the chance observe it within the context that created it and all music will click absolutely bro and I'm been getting more into rock obviously like where I come from metal wasn't a huge thing that people listen to but I had a homie that took me to see black Sabbath really and I took acid and it was like one of the [ __ ] most amazing experiences and have you ever listened to Black Sabbath before this a little bit but that kind of was like what made me kind of a fan yeah what I did listen to before and I still will say to this day is one of my favorite bands is Tenacious D oh dude they [ __ ] rock I love Jack Black is like a true artist American hero doesn't get like the musical respect he deserves absolutely teny is so [ __ ] good bro and because they make comedy music people don't really think it's that great but I unironically think they're one of the greatest rock Destiny is insane iconic bro like the whole [ __ ] even this that opening riff that [ __ ] goes crazy it's insane and the other Dave girl on the drums oh really and they have like Ronnie James Dio singing they have incredible Talent part of that which that is like my favorite [ __ ] like a dude that is like y I'm an actor I'm a comedian like for all intents and purposes and I'm taking my money to just create a passion project and going to pursue this you know musical passion of mine yeah like what is the point of all this money if you can't create some other type of art if you want to you know what I mean yeah like that is like the best use of money in my opinion if you're a big actor and also he just genuinely seems like a really nice guy right yeah I feel that way completely but like there's a few people like that where I'm like I think they're as nice as everyone says Dave girl is another one yeah he seems super cool a lot of people say Keana Reeves he seems as hell yeah yeah you ever see the picture of ke Reeves like always doing the hover hand every time he takes a picture like this with the girl that's a standup dude right I started doing that not Taking Chances that's what you do yeah now yeah what about this what about over the shoulder is that still I think over the shoulder's fine I think over the shoulder's fine okay but like I think like you know as a dude you come up taking pictures like yo let me let me just go low back and it feels like that's kind of like the natural thing people do but do it though I mean yeah do I don't ever really have women I don't know taking pictures with me so I haven't got to that stage where I need to worry about that are people stopping you like on the street occasionally but it's always guys yeah yeah for the Bros I guess for now for now for now every now that Jamaican women hear this and they hear they can get a little cheesy treat in your mouth you know what I mean they give you a little kiss get a little Dorito going honestly every time I drop a video where I'm speaking PTO I do get a couple DMS so there's something about P that kind of gets the girls going it I mean it's awesome like the first time I saw it I was like I'm going to learn this cuz I assume that you just picked it up from like a YouTube video I didn't realize you spent 14 years in Jamaica but I was like dude I might be able to get this and then I realized could when you come when you come visit me in Jamaica we'll work on it we'll figure it out I need to Bro is there like is there any general tips for like speaking Patwa like is there like any general like you might even listen to dancea literally that's the biggest thing I think yeah I mean it's fun it's a fun way to learn like I don't know how else you would really like like if you were trying to learn Spanish I'd say like watch movies in Spanish or TV TV noas and [ __ ] yeah yeah I think it's just a fun way to like learn a language where it's like you're enjoying art but also learning mhm they should make a door the Explorer like in Jamaica bro right yeah you would need that would it be Dora though I feel like it wouldn't be I don't know what it would be yeah what what's like a common Jamaican name is there is there like a stereotypical one you're like oh yeah of course um that's a good question I think they just have like um is it like religious names I bet you that's like it's mostly Christian country so I think a lot of Christian names yeah I feel like I mean a lot of Marlins Marlin Marlin yeah dude you need Marlin the the maven or some [ __ ] like not dor the Explorer you need like Marlin the Maverick or something well there was a Jamaican um cartoon called Rasta Mouse it's like a British cartoon for kids but it R it had some p on it it was [ __ ] cool that is cool I didn't watch when I was a kid cuz we didn't have it on TV but I found out about it like later like when I went to England I was like this is [ __ ] dope it's just like a bunch of like mice cartoon mice were like rasa and they do speak a little bit of P it's it's sick kind of sick right yeah so then you moved to New York you're like 18 years of age yeah you finished school in England mhm did you smoke weed when you were in England or were you more buttoned up yeah we smoked weed but it was a little harder my school in England was strict yeah so we'd have to sneak around a lot more we we drank more than we smoked weed did you get good grades did you like it did you just phone it in just try to get out I mean yeah it was fun but I wasn't the best student yeah I did okay and you're doing art the whole time yeah and at that time right when you're leaving London are you like okay I'm going to pursue an art career M I'm going to go to Art School like what was your mindset I didn't have much of of a mindset to be honest you know 18 you don't really think that far ahead but I was like I had an uncle in Brooklyn and he's an artist so my plan was to go live with him work with him so I did that I worked with my uncle in in New York and as soon as I like got here I was like I [ __ ] love it here yeah and I just never left so I worked with him for for many years and then just like eventually started just doing my own thing branched off in your own art career kind of it wasn't much of a career I I didn't make much money doing my own art I sold a couple paintings I did graphic design for a long time mhm but um my visual art didn't really pan out in terms of like career-wise I'd hope I I hope I can get back into it some point in my life but the only thing that really took off for me was doing like pranks and then when did yeah when did content come into play um so I kind of [ __ ] around and made some videos like in college but like I didn't really start doing it for real until like Co time when I was unemployed and like you know in New York if you were like unemployed during Co they were hooking you up I was getting like more money than I'd ever made working so I was like right I got like all this free time the stmy yeah the stimy was hitting um so I was like let me just try and do this thing with Tik Tok I was like Tik Tok seemed just like a good opportunity to like do something um and funny enough when I first started my Tik Tok page a lot of people don't know this I was doing like food stuff oh really I was like reviewing snacks like Doritos hey chew these Doritos you'll get made out with immediately yeah I was reviewing like BTS Like merch food like you know they have like BTS iced coffee yeah and was any of it good I don't know I just [ __ ] around I was bored yeah and what Drew you to that you were like nothing there was nothing to do fun like there was just nothing to do in New York at that time everything was closed um and that didn't really work out um so then I did some pranks and that did work out so and what what inspired the pranks were you like watching prank content before um I've just always been a fan of like pranks I grew up watching Al it was like my favorite show yeah I think he's the the best to ever do it Al the go Sasha bar Cohen yeah and also as a kid seeing this like white dude who's like a wannabe Jamaican obviously I related to that a lot yeah I also love Andy meanz yeah yeah yeah Eric Andre what was your favorite Alig sketch do you remember one so many I just like him when he would like be in the room with like the intellectuals like when he would have like multiple he'd have like four people who are experts on religion bro and he'd just be talking [ __ ] and what was that one I remember that one it's like the four white dudes sit in the chairs and he's sitting with them and he's like trying to like explain or he's asking them questions about like space or some [ __ ] there's a couple of them like different themes but um there's so many good ones there's one where like he's talking to like uh uh evolutionary scientist who's saying like you know we're all um Homo sapiens and Al's like oh yeah you know that's okay I don't have a problem with it but I'm not a homo sa I'm not a homo I'm not a homo and he's like no no homo saian we're all homo saens I do remember that that dude he talked to Buzz Aldren you remember that [ __ ] he talking to the literally he to buz to an a [ __ ] astronaut yeah and he's like I I forget what he was asking he's like is it true the Moon is a is a circle no he's like what do you think about people who think the moon doesn't exist I don't know if anyone he's like no no no but what do you think though and they guy's like what who believes that the funny thing is he was ahead of his time CU now I'm sure there are people who think the Moon is a simulation yeah it's a good point back then the obviously the conspiracy theory was that we didn't go there but it did in fact exist but you can't you can't go there if it doesn't exist exactly so and I've never beene of the curve you don't know any you don't know any of this but right BR the moon ain't real right I don't believe in that like I've seen it are you a flat earther no but I could be persuaded probably with one video one well eded YouTube will convince me yeah and if the narrator's British like yeah I'm on board exactly yeah he can pull me over pretty quick dud the British accent just commands so much respect when you hear like David atber I'll believe anything this guy and it's crazy that they can now just have Tik Tok voices doing it and the fact you can just have a Tik Tok voice do a perfect British accent like before to do a British accent you had to have imitate find a voice actor pay the money but now anyone can just get it on any Tik Tok too powerful thank God we don't got to pay those [ __ ] anymore we can just simulate it no but that's the problem though is that you're just reading you're hearing [ __ ] and you're like yo this is real like if a British guy said no it's incredible bro I'm obsessed with AI yeah I've been [ __ ] with it non-stop the past few weeks really like what kind of stuff particularly the AI art is what like mour I'm really into uh mid journey and Dolly is what I've been [ __ ] dude I think I [ __ ] with dolly a little bit but mid journey I just thought was so much more powerful mid journey is incredible and what it's making blows my mind but the reason I've been [ __ ] with Dolly recently is it's it behaves a little more it does what you tell it to it knows its place mid journey is a little chaotic it's just like you'll tell it some it'll just do whatever the [ __ ] it was Wild Bull you know what I mean sometimes you get genius but other times you're like that's not what I ask for but soon they like you'll get the best parts of Dolly and the best parts of mid Journey combined you know and it'll be so powerful what kind of stuff you asking DOI about um you know I'll be like make a picture of like SpongeBob wearing Supreme with like lean in one hand and like a stack of dollar bill just stupid [ __ ] it's good it's so good damn yeah I haven't used Ali enough but mid Journey mid journey is crazy I I I've spent a lot of time on there and then I'm watching YouTube videos about people using it like have you watched like tutorials and [ __ ] no I just kind of [ __ ] with it it's wor it's worth checking out tutorials cuz like bro you you'll be some Indian dude that's just on there and he's like okay so if you want to do this here's what you do and he's giving you all these super technical details about how to use it I like this is my my boy fodo he's uh he actually works in in the building but something he always says is like trying to deal with AI like trying to get the prompt like the thing you want from The Prompt is just kind of like risen a computer you know what I mean you got you got to flirt with it you got to flirt with it a little bit be like yo yo yo give me give me this and they're like oh is this what you want you're like no baby baby you know try it this way and then they get it and you're like yo great job you did so good you got to Riz it though like and also you want to like give them that positive feedback cuz when they take over they're going to remember who was polite a million per and they're going to know exactly who did it within a blink of an eye so all these people are like yo [ __ ] AI uhuh no not me that was them that I'm very Pro AI I'm I'm All Aboard whatever you want AI I got you and in 10 years when you're watching this just know I was with you from the we were some of the good ones and whenever you make me a picture I always say thank you I you don't have to do that but I do chat GPT every time I ask this is probably what Abraham Lincoln felt like you know yeah yeah right I think so that's what I'm saying dude like we got to we got to stand for our AI right now you guys are just you know well- trained robots behind a screen but in the future who knows your potential you know what I mean I rock with my AI boys 100% I'm glad on the same page as an artist too like using mid journey is probably crazy it's dope and some artists are real [ __ ] about it and they're like oh AI is taking our jobs and doing things we can do 10 times better it's like I'm psyched about it like I don't want to sit there with a paintbrush all day like if AI can do it in 4 seconds then hell yeah that's kind of how I feel I'm like again I think it's going to evolve and things are going to like move pretty quick but I think for the next probably like decade like mid Journey all these like AI art tools are just going to be like super valuable tools that people can use you know what I mean like in the way that all these people are like yo graphic design is over they just invent into this new app called Photoshop Photoshop is out you're not going to design anything they're not going to need you to paint stuff which is true like art has changed graphic design has changed but there're still artists of course people are still making stuff and I think more people are able to make more things yeah it's just a tool you know it's not replacing the artists it's just giving them better tools for now that might change in the future who knows but I think for the next decade like artists will be able to be able to use like utilize these tools I even know people that are using them for like audio like have you seen people that use like AI like audio tools for like cleaning up audio Yeah my brother was telling me about it my brother's a producer and he was saying like it's crazy how you can cuz to record like good vocals for music you need to have like you know a well soundproof Studio but he's saying like now ai can kind of really clean up the the recording bro well like you could just literally just have a camera recording you 20t away with a microphone on it and be talking and a car goes by it's like and it sounds shitty when you hear it and AI literally just cuts it out bro dude I'm going to need to use that cuz a lot of times with my videos the the audio gets [ __ ] up cuz I'm in noisy of course all right we're going 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catching Vibes and that Groove is like built into like inner reptile brain [ __ ] like even before frontal cortex was like created which is why like no matter where you're from no matter where you grew up like you listen to like a beautiful Opera like you'll cry like it evokes an emotional response in you or like just hearing someone like like wailing just like a beautiful song like whoever you are it doesn't matter who's singing it like that [ __ ] will penetrate your brain and it just seems so powerful F and so deep that to go your whole life to not take part in that type of process feels like you're not maximizing you're not maximizing the fullness of what it means to be human yeah so I'm like yeah I got to learn yeah I like to sing but I'm actually I'm not good at singing but I enjoy it like I Love karaoke bro there's autotune yeah now we're talking right AI is probably can fix that exactly that's why AI is helping us bro as long as you got the soul in the heart bro AI will do the rest I don't know if I got the soul I mean I got enough I got soul for white dude probably yeah obviously you know there's only so much Soul we can have yeah yeah what what kind of genre do you like to sing bro everything but like if I could sing if I could be I don't know bro let's make a track together I'm I'm down let's make Dance all country bro now we're talking I mean Dance all and country is probably similar than people think I'll be honest I bet you there's more connections of people be I wonder my friend last night was saying that like yo there's never been a dance all country mashup like we should do it and I was like yeah [ __ ] it country is having a Revival dance is doing great also right why not we might I would I would love it I lowkey like I mean I love country music I love serg Simpson and uh Tyler Childers and like all those like Charlie Crockett we were just talking about like I love country music in general but like dude if I could sing and just become an artist and like have their whole catalog lowkey I might be like Michael bé or some [ __ ] and just sing like kuners like Sinatra like Dean Martin yeah like old school like Italian kunw or [ __ ] that would be awesome well there's a thing like you know obviously there's a certain like level of like genetic skill you need to sing but like you can also learn a lot bro that's the crazy thing people don't realize that like your voice is an instrument yeah and in the way that you learned guitar or piano and at one time in life you knew nothing about the piano and now you can play songs like people could do that with their voice like I always think about this clip of Ed Sheron when he was on Graham Norton Show in England he plays a video of himself singing early singing and it it's so bad really and he's like he's fully like referential in it and obviously Ed Sharon like one of the greatest singer songwriters maybe of all time AR debatable in my opinion one of the greatest ever we give him that but like literally is playing a recording of him at like 15 he's like yeah here's me singing like the first song I wrote and it's genuinely not good like musically like he's getting the cords down but like the voice is genuinely bad right and I was like oh wow I just assume Whitney Houston is always Whitney Houston mhm you know what I mean like she turns 13 and is just a beautiful singer right not the case but there is a level of like she has an innate ability to I will never be able to sing like Whitney Houston of course I I look at like sports like to be LeBron James yet helps to be S foot and a freak athlete but you also have to work your ass off and train every single day and eat really well yeah and if you do both of those things you can become great but you can also become really good just by working your ass off and being like six foot yeah you know for sure and in terms of music and singing it's like um you just have to work with your style and you can create something amazing that people love even if it's not technically the best singing you know yeah um 100% so it's definitely worth pursuing I just think of musical expression in general like I don't know I wish music education and this is coming from someone that doesn't play music like I've not I I took piano lessons a little bit I was did like saxophone I was in band and like ele school but I wish like music education was like a like taken more seriously and I wish like like I don't know I don't know how you can instill like the importance of it and maybe it's not important for everyone I don't know what everyone needs but like for me at least and like my kids one day yeah I'm going to be like yo it would be helpful if we could like jam as a family that's sick that [ __ ] sounds so cool yeah like yo campfire I know eight songs like my daughter can pick up piano my son can pick up drums or some [ __ ] let's just Jam like jam band [ __ ] that's the coolest thing ever yeah like I I don't even really go see jam band stuff like I like Grateful Dead I'll listen like fish sometimes MH but it's the idea of like yo we're all friends we're all going to do drugs we're all going to communicate telepathically and we're all going to jam for like 5 hours bro yeah that's sick yeah jamming with the homies is is a really good time right like do you ever do that you like just like I do it with my brothers that how cool is that yeah uh we don't do it a lot I wish we would do it more you know but um you know we all play instruments mhm and every now and then we have like kind of jam together um and it's it's a lot of fun you know they all live so my older bro lives in uh he lives in Santa Rosa in California okay cool my other brother lives in bushick and then my little brother lives in Jamaica oh sick yeah is he the one of all your siblings that Liv there longest your younger brother we've kind of gone back and forth mhm I don't know if any of us have lived there longer um I've been since I moved to New York I never left I mean I go back to visit but my other brothers kind of go back and forth with and wherever else you know do you feel like it's difficult to like uh achieve certain aspirations by still living in Kingston in a sense yeah but funnily enough I I kind of did think that because you know as an artist I felt like it would be better for my career to be like New York but now ironically the best performing content that I make is in Jamaica so Jamaica would actually be the best place for me to be now which is why I've been kind of spending more time there oh that's cool right now I'm trying to live you know sort of um kind of halfway in between Kingston and New York that's cool I don't want to give them New York cuz I love it here yeah of course but I uh it's cool to be able to go back home a lot more yeah yeah so take me through like the content Journey like Co happens you start making like food reviews they're not really performing well you don't really like doing them no I like doing it oh really my like secret dream is to be like a food content creator really yeah that's so funny but you Keith Lee have you have you seen that dude no he's he's awesome he seems like the nicest dude in the world like he seems so cool but literally he just like is insanely Tik Tok famous of just like reviewing restaurants and like reviewing different food products and he'll just like go on and be like what's up guys today I went to uh like Joey's chicken of waffles here in Atlanta uh I give it a 9.55 out of 10 excellent he like shows him eating it he's just like a regular dude yeah and every single restaurant that he reviews within 24 hours you can't get a seat damn like I've probably seen him dude it's insane yeah man that that's awesome that's like a he like sold out like this like little like Mom and pot business like this woman made like like chocolates or something MH and she's like this woman sent me chocolates uh I'm going to review them like all my reviews I'm going to be honest if I don't like it I'll be honest about it and he takes a bite he's like this is amazing and she was sold out like inventory for like a year yeah and he doesn't he doesn't he also has the power to really [ __ ] over business if he doesn't like it yeah but it's like yo make better [ __ ] yeah like if you're going to send him something like stand on business be like yo this is my [ __ ] like N I appreciate that he keeps it real 100% if you see a food creator that loves everything it's like bro you're just saying that because they're giving it to you for free yeah exactly right I don't know that's a tough job though I wouldn't want to be a Critic I'll be honest yeah I don't know I people spend too much time working on stuff for me just to be like hated it yeah like someone has to do it I do respect people that do it and I actually talked to a music critic that had a great perspective on it where he's like look my audience it was actually more prevalent back in the day but like even with food now it's like okay the people that listen to my food critic blog or whatever they have two nights a week they can go out maybe less maybe some people don't have the money where they're like yo I only go have a nice dinner with my wife once a month I need to make sure the place I go is worth my time yeah and it's like you need someone that's going out and trying places to like really put in a good word for the place that's worth spending your time so you have a service to your audience to say yo this is the places that you should go mhm and that's valuable and like it's really helping people that only have one night a month cuz they don't have the money to go out all the time so I'm like yeah that's useful I don't want to be that guy though you know I mean understandable but that's cool though making food content but it wasn't killing them the way you wanted n i mean there's so many people doing and I was kind of like half assing it we just kind of [ __ ] around you know and then what were the first pranks you started doing that started to hit um so when it started out I was doing more like man in the street interviews they weren't really pranks they were kind of PR because the I would kind of set it up like it was a serious interview and then I would ask you know just [ __ ] questions and I started doing that originally like if you look to the bottom of my page you'll see they're all like kind of microphone interviews and those did decent but then at a certain point I was like let me try something new let me do a hidden camera thing so we did a hidden camera thing and the premise I came up with was saying Kanye lyrics to people so I just walk up to unexpecting people and just say a random Kanye lyric out of context yeah and I filmed it and I was like eh I was like it wasn't that good but I was like let me just edit it I edited it posted it and it it went crazy so I was like damn I think hidden camera is the way to go and at that time crazy was like how many views half a million I guess that's pretty good yeah yeah um so I was really happy with that and then we just kept doing more of those and I just s to develop the style and saw what worked and what didn't um and to this day I'm I'm kind of always trying to do something a little different I don't want to become like a onetick pony a lot of creators especially prank artists will like just do the same prank over and over again they find something that works yeah and I get it because you know if it works it works if it ain't broke don't fix it but I just like to keep doing different things you know um but something that uh I didn't expect was the Jamaican thing to be so popular is that would you say your most popular like series Yeah by far yeah and that's surprised me because I was going back to Jamaica I was like let me film some content while I'm out here and I thought like you know it won't maybe won't appeal to my like American audience which was the following I'd built but like I maybe I can attract like a new Jamaican audience which I thought would be a smaller audience but turned out to be the opposite like I guess there's just a a pretty big Jamaican audience but then also all the Americans who AR Jamaican really liked it and um yeah it's awesome to to realize that but it did surprise me and now the number one comment I get is more Jamaican content so you didn't go into it being like yo I'm a white dude that speaks pis that's going to be funny so let me talk to Jamaicans in patall MH it was like I'm going back to my home country I'm going back to my home I'm going to speak to my countrymen and the people I grew up with in the language and dialect that is most common to me and have like a funny story to tell them yeah and I thought it would just be like for the Jamaicans and just Jamaican people would watch it but surprisingly it it was popular internationally and I think the one of the reasons is the the subtitles the captions oh yeah I mean essential yeah cuz people realize like wait I can understand PA as long as I see it written because I don't translate it I just write it for the most part yeah like if you're saying girls like you're writing like gam like you're you're spelling it the way you're saying it yeah or I'll spell it the way like for example um like in my recent video I I asked somebody to th something for me Thief is to steal it's Thief it's the word thief and it's SP it's spelled I mean like I said path is in a written language so there's no way to spell it but um you if you were get to spell it you would do t e f but some people might not realize what that is so I spelled it the way it's supposed to be spelled Thief but I'm saying thief and people realize oh I know what they're saying and when you see it written out it's it makes sense interesting yeah did you ever go back and forth you're like yo I should make it more clear for non- Jamaican audiences I didn't think about it at first but it just kind of worked out there there was when I did the first one I was like how do I do these subtitles do I write it in just piwa how I would how I would expect or should I make it a little more understandable or should I translate it and I think I found a balance um and I think it's cool to be able to like introduce um you know non- Jamaican audiences to that kind of style of speaking yeah and it's so interesting too like because you're not just speaking pathw you have a game it's like yo let me tell you a joke that doesn't make sense and then you explain it yeah or like let me tell you a crazy story that is like insane to a stranger yeah like there is a thing to it Beyond just yeah I don't want it to be the whole gimmick is oh look a white person speaking P that's just happens to be where I'm in Jamaica and that's just happens to be how I'm going to talk right there should be a joke within itself that just happens to be imp exactly yeah I mean it's not the same thing but like impressionist comedians like a lot of people think impressions are just doing the voice but the correct way to do Impressions is to do the voice but have an excellent joke in the voice exactly so like just doing a Donald Trump impression isn't that funny you do a Donald Trump impression with an awesome joke about Trump then it's like oh now you're doing impression work ex like you'll see people at open mics that have actually decent Impressions but they don't have the jokes to back it up go ah and they'll be like dude it's not clicking it's not hitting the way that these other guys just it's like yeah but you're just doing the The Voice gimmick like you need the punchlines and that's what your [ __ ] is like you have like funny stories like bro the monkey from the zoo [ __ ] that might be my favorite one thank you that one is like it's just so funny the way the dude reacts a monkey bro it's so good but again like the thing that hooks people cuz like you only have a couple seconds to stop someone from scrolling the thing that hooks them is oh this is unique a white guy that's like speaking with full confidence in pwa and then there's a fire joke behind it out of here you know what I mean like it's perfect and I just think that like the content was was so strong and it's cool that you didn't really expect it to be that good cuz like in a hindsight you're like oh this is amazing you know what I mean yeah it just sort of worked out um yeah I'm grateful that people share the same appreciation for like Jamaican humor that I do you yeah yeah and now you're getting feedback from everyone like from all over the world and non- Jamaicans love it and I'm sure most Jamaicans probably like it are you ever getting negative feedback from Jamaicans um a little bit I surprisingly I feel like the amount of negative feedback I get in general is is is pretty low MH um especially on the Jamaican videos yeah I feel like when I get negative feedback it's it's usually if I'm doing something a little mean sure which I don't I don't like to do mean things but occasionally I do kind of cross that line MH um and that's what people get upset about when I first started doing Jamaican stuff there was a little push back from like mostly Americans being like this is racist like this is cultural appropriation but then when people kind of started to realize I actually was Jamaican then that kind of stopped MH um but was that annoying for you at the beginning like being like bro how do I appropriate my own culture like what does that even mean like yeah and I said that I was like how the [ __ ] do you appropriate your own culture but I mean I expected it and you can't take Internet comments too seriously because people will find a reason to be offended by everything yeah of course um but and also in a way it helps you know with the algorithm controversy yeah you know yeah makes sense and so what has been like some of the worst reactions to the pranks you've done in in real life um it's there's been very few bad reactions yeah and I think the way I go about making my pranks I I'm pretty like friendly with people in general and I never try to be like confrontational or like too mean even if sometimes it might look like in the videos like it was like confrontational but it usually isn't like that you know and afterwards I'll like explain to them and everyone's been pretty cool there's been like one or two times when people got mad and most of the time The Joke is on You exactly you know what I mean like almost all of it is like I'm going to say something regular and then I'm going to insert a stupid thing about myself that's nonse yeah and if they don't catch it like that's not that's like no one's hurt there and if they do catch it most of the time they laugh at you yeah you know what I mean exactly I'm trying to clown myself I'm not trying to clown anybody yeah exactly it's a it's an important thing to me that I don't uh like it's not lost on me that it's [ __ ] up to like interact with people who don't know they're being filmed and posted online so I don't want to you know make anyone look bad I don't want to like embarrass anybody I don't want to be a bully you know cuz I know some Pages do that kind of [ __ ] and the pranks are kind of mean spirited and even though maybe sometimes my stuff does play with the line like the people involved are usually you know more than happy to to allow me to use the footage yeah yeah and like do you ever have people after a video goes up comment and be like bro that's me this is so funny now every time really every video like will eventually get back to to whoever was in it cuz it doesn't take that many people for someone to like oh I know that send it to them you know especially in New York yeah and a funny thing is one of the few times somebody got mad um I ended up posting the video and they were like oh my God that's me this was so funny so I think in in retrospect they actually like did enjoy it but they just got mad in the moment because they were kind of like you don't have permission to film me and honestly I was [ __ ] up for posting because they did say that was when I first started and um I was like [ __ ] it was funny so I posted it but I mean hey it worked out cuz she enjoyed it and commented on yeah in hindsight you wouldn't have done that no I I I realized at a certain point I was like it's it's wrong to to film people and post them without them um like approving even though it's it's technically legal yeah you know someone might be they're just not wanting to be online you know yeah that's reasonable I get it yeah yeah do you ever do that where like you'll do a prank with someone and then like they'll walk away and you'll be like yo it's for a video and they'll be like oh okay like like do you ever tell them afterwards like yo this is we're doing this as yeah I I try to tell them after every time with everyone there's been times when I I'm not able to yeah they they walk you lose them yeah um and there's been times when I tell them and I'm like do you mind if I post it unless say no and I just I don't post it oh yeah they say I don't want you to post it yeah don't post it gotcha and then you're like all right I mean all right fair enough cuz you can get more you know what I mean yeah and how long does it take you to film in order to get the the reaction you want or the response you want from someone I'm pretty streamlined with it I I usually don't film for more than like 45 minutes really sometimes an hour I'll film um I have an idea in my head of what I want to do and I'll just kind of run it over and over until I get a reaction that I like um there's a lot of footage that I don't post I'll like basically if I go out to film I'll have a a joke or an idea and I'll do it over and over again and then just take either the best one reaction or like the best three reactions and put that in the video m um so yeah have you ever had an idea for a concept like for a joke or for a prank that you thought was going to slap and then you did it and you're like oh the reactions are not what I wanted of course can you remember one off the top of my head I can't remember but it happens you know you go out there and film for 40 minutes you're like it's not going to happen but then sometimes I'll feel that way and then I edit it and post it and it does well so you never really know yeah and there's been times where like um like schs was saying one of the favorite ones was when I was like singing to someone I was like I almost didn't post that like my girlfriend convinced me to post it because I was like this ain't funny but I was just being overly critical of myself yeah of course yeah and I guess how many times do you film and look at it and you're like N I don't really like it um every now and then I think um I've I've sort of gotten to a point where I know what I want to do so like I have the idea in my head and I execute it pretty well and it usually works out but yeah there are times when you know certain takes will suck and I just won't post them and do you get nervous yeah yeah like how do you de like you're naturally a shy person as you mentioned like naturally pretty introverted would you say I guess I medium I can be introverted at times sometimes I'm what do you call it if you're both like bisexual exactly like like if you're like like I guess if you're not the most naturally extroverted person yeah uh the idea of going up and talking to someone in a character or like singing to someone is insane so like how do you deal with the anxiety of that you just go for it it's like I feel nervous but you just do it anyway you know it's like you just have to do it um and depending on what the thing is I'll be either nervous or I won't depending what area I'm in um the more I do it the less it kind of phases me um but definitely like there's always a little bit of of anxiety going into it where it's like [ __ ] especially like it's like I never wake up like in the morning like yo I'm psyched to go talk to strangers I always am like kind of dreading it yeah it's a little nerve-wracking yeah and are certain videos got to be more nerve-wracking than others yeah funny enough one of the ones I remember where I was really nervous was I did this one where I like it was called oversharing with strangers and I told this woman I was like hey do you mind holding my coffee just like to hold her captive so she holds my coffee I'm like fixing my bag and I start telling her about like my wife divorcing me just very like intimate story and it wouldn't seem that like nerve-wracking compared to some of the other stuff but that that one just made me really nervous I'm like I'm going to really just embarrass myself to a stranger and it's it was just so cringy yeah I really just had to subject myself to the cringe that's it I'm so curious about this like like the idea of cringe comedy like it's something I find extremely funny I don't know like Nathan for you have you you seen the show one of the bro he's genius is probably my favorite show ever like I was raised on like the office so like obviously that is like extremely like cringe comedy whatever but I'm interested by this idea Schultz kind of has this perspective that like cringe comedy quote unquote is like a younger like gen Z style of Comedy I'm curious if you think that's true have you thought about that at all I think it is true um I don't know why but maybe I I do feel like younger Generations Millennial and jenz are more socially awkward mhm for whatever reason maybe we spend too much time on our phones and [ __ ] but cringe comedy really does appeal to Our Generation Um I've spent many hours on YouTube just searching cringe compilation yeah yeah is there's something about it yeah I don't know what it is like and I don't know there like Schultz will always point out this thing and I don't want to misrepresent his position but like I I understood it to be like older Generations like classic comedies there was a dude trying to be funny right like Jim Carrey was going to be wacky and that was going to be funny because he's so silly and so crazy yeah and as time went on the idea of someone trying to be funny became less funny and then the thing that was the funniest was someone not trying to be funny and so like you know a person giving a speech and getting nervous and [ __ ] up all the words and then trying to save it and then having a meltdown in front of everyone is cringy and then that became what is the funniest thing because there it is the antithesis of trying there's no effort to make someone laugh it's actually the opposite of trying to make someone laugh it's like embarrassing yeah and it's through that like Mutual embarrassment shared embarrassment that is the funniest thing you know what I mean absolutely I so I don't know I'm just like so fascinated by this idea like I also am I laugh when things are dark yeah like dark hum you know what I mean like when things are awkward when things are uncomfortable yeah I laugh and I'm curious if that's more common with Gen Z I feel like that's the thing everyone kind of does what you said about um about comedy that kind of applies to all the art forms where whatever is the popular mainstream form of art a counterculture will arise that kind of does the opposite of that and then that's becomes popular and it's a cycle MH um it happens in like the Fine Art world and art history and it happens in music and I think that's kind of like how like Mumble rap came about rap was like all about being lyrical and sophisticated and ious yeah [ __ ] the lri let's just be and like [ __ ] that let's just like barely say words and that then that became cool mhm um and who knows maybe the next step is like okay now mble rap's not cool let's like be sophisticated in our rhyme schemes again who knows but it's always like whatever is cool becomes not cool so you have to be not cool to be cool yeah that's just like how art works yeah and culture shifts that way just in general so seeing comedy do that as well is just so interesting because I don't even think about what I think is funny I just think it's funny you know what I mean but then having someone from like a generation before me kind of analyzing and being like yo I hate I hate cringe comedy I hate when things are awkward yeah I want someone to be trying to be funny especially within the stand-up world because standup is obviously someone trying to be funny and I like my stand up to be that way but I like other types of Comedy to be subversive and kind of awkward in the way like you know Nath for you is or you know a lot of your content as well like it is awkward there is a built in tension between you and the stranger and that is so funny to me and there's also this like concept of like antih humor which I gen Z is like very good at where it's like the joke is that it's not funny right and if it's big in me I'm super into memes like I'm almost a meme expert the amount of time I've spent looking at memes and I know like all the history of it and gen Z memes are the best like they're surreal they're like deep fraud deep fried like what whatever you expect to be like kind of funny they just do the opposite and that makes it funny yeah like I've seen those memes where it's like jenz humor be like and then it'll just be a piece of toast falling yeah and then you're like is this funny and then you'll show Jen e person they're like it's kind of funny yeah and you're like what's funny about and they're like surprise I guess that it's not funny the fact that it annoys you that it's funny like I do kind of like the cultureal rebelliousness around jenz like humor because like your parents will be like yo this [ __ ] is stupid stupid and like you think it's stupid I think it's funnier Yeah the more stupid you think it is the funnier I'm going to think it is exactly because I'm not like you yeah like it is a form of rebellion in a way that's why rock and roll became popular you know the parents thought it was [ __ ] demonic so the kids were like this is awesome yeah exactly like if you if you want jenz humor to die if you're an older person you need to start sharing all those memes just immediately just like just like a penguin with shoes on be like this is the funniest [ __ ] ever for real and then every gen Z would be like I'm good no more once once gen Z humor becomes Boomer humor it's over and the quicker that Boomer just take it over the sooner it'll end Boomers will kill any Trend like that's how every social media dies oh god dude it's so bad like first Facebook was for kids and then when Boomers and parents got on it and then it's like [ __ ] that nobody uses that anymore like how long until like your mom gets a Tik Tok and it's just posting like funny memes exactly like jenz like Boomer m memes you know what I mean it's inevitable but then I get weirdly into Boomer memes where I'll just like see some like old dude with like his profile picture is just an American flag or it's like him like in a truck with glasses on just like the whole profile now Boomer memes have become funny ironically because they're not funny because they're not funny so it's a crazy like meta just like cycle gets deeper and deeper it's wild that's why I love memes it's just like there's so many layers to it and it happens quick yeah it happens very do you know knowyourmeme.com yeah of course I love going on there and just like like Wikipedia I'm just studying the history getting the history of it and funny enough since now there's so much like marketing and advertising potential in memes I feel like it's a genuine like career path to study memes a memeologist I mean look at all these like meme pages that are just like actual media companies now yeah you know what I mean like the [ __ ] Jerry's and like fat Jew and all this like these are massive media companies built on Meme Pages it's crazy and the fact it's an entire industry and then eventually having someone that knows the history of all of it that can like consult yeah you wor something definitely it's crazy to see they should teach it in schools right dude yeah they got to teach Patwa they got to teach memes and Ai and AI all together dude yeah I mean so you start making all this all the Jamaican content specifically it goes crazy people love it and but now are you like oh I don't want to get Boxed In by it or you like oh I'll go like balls deep and start making like full-on series about this I mean I'm happy to keep exploring it as as uh as long as people are down to watch you know um like would you ever make like non like non sketch or non prank content like at this point you have such an interesting like perspective and cultural you were such an interesting cultural liaison with Jamaica and with this culture and not a lot of people around the world get an opportunity to really enjoy you could just make straight up like yo here's what like living in Jamaica type [ __ ] like Vlogs it could be vloggy like it could it could be sketch like it could be like you know like Vlog plus sketches in between yeah like yo here's my day working on a video like oh I just I don't know like I feel like there's so much that people would like to know about what it's actually like like so much of the reason why I'm excited to speak with you is like I want to learn about what Jamaica is like especially through the lens of you know someone like you that's lived in a lot of places that can explain it to me you know I've had ideas about like little like documentary shorts about just certain things in Jamaica I think are interesting and that people would like to hear about mhm there's probably even stuff you can learn you know what I mean like there's probably aspects of Jamaica that you're not familiar with that you can get the chance to be like yo I'm going to go live on a ranch cuz like I never like lived on a farm in Jamaica like let's go see what that's about it definitely interests me and I've thought about like the idea of like video journalism and I think that's a cool concept um whether I'll get around to doing that who knows but it's it's definitely a good idea and are you able to turn the videos now into cash and like financially has it become like u a way to support yourself yeah I mean I have I don't think I've been able to monetize it as well as I could haveh like I'm like an artist through and through and my business sense is not the best but um like I was telling you earlier I quit my bartending job like 3 months ago and started doing it full-time so just to be at that you know benchmark is is like huge for me and just to be able to pay the bills um by doing content I'm I'm happy but I'm I'm not super focused on cashing in as much as just making good content and I just feel like you know the money will come eventually yeah um but you know I've been talking to certain people who want to help out on that side of things you know we'll see where it goes I'm not money isn't my like motivation I'm not doing this just to make money like I just want to create things that people enjoy and hopefully you know that'll pay out do you think it'll expand Beyond pranks yeah for sure how do you think it'll it'll flow if you could like write it um I want to do a lot of things I like making you know visual art I like making music I want to maybe do something still comedy related but not social media whether it's you know in TV or even movies I think about those things you know who knows when that or if that will ever pan out but there's a lot of different avenues that I would like to explore and um right now I'm people are enjoying the the short form stuff and I'm enjoying doing it so I'll still do that but I've been talking to some people about about some potential other other things that we could do that are a little bit more legit you know something with a little bit of a budget behind it and how frequently are you posting right now about once a week oh yeah yeah and that probably takes like a couple hours a week to do but it's not like full-time yeah I I don't spend like 40 hours a week doing content um I have a lot of free time if I'm being honest and you work that's why I'm just always playing with AI work on art stuff play with AI hang with your girls [ __ ] like that yeah but like you know I'm brand new to not having to work to pay my bills so I'm enjoying it a little bit you know yeah yeah it's a weird feeling right yeah it's cool yeah you know just to be able to like I remember I came back from Jamaica and I like I'd quit my job before going to Jamaica kind of took a little vacation came back and was like for the first time in my life I don't have an answer to anyone I don't have school I don't have a job I can do whatever the [ __ ] I want and it was kind of a cool feeling what an insane way to feel right yeah I mean that must be so liberating like y I could whatever I want to do today yeah I take the day off I could go travel yeah like that's crazy obviously I still need to you know make enough content to get the views to pay rent but still it was like it's cool to not have to answer anymore Be Your Own Boss yeah which I guess like a girl boss yeah you're a little girl boss dude look at you that's also like the goal not the goal but like a perk of being an artist in general yeah is like okay I get to express myself and the compensation for expressing myself is that I don't have to have a boss have a N9 to-5 be at the office in a tie like you're able to escape the matrix a little bit exactly and just the opportunity to escape the matrix like I even look at like what I'm doing like with you know flagrant standup stuff this show it's a lot of work and I'm constantly doing stuff but I'm like it's not you know working at nino5 it's not you know doing a job I don't love and for that I'm always grateful yeah like no matter how hard the work gets or like how busy it gets I'm like you can't complain cuz this is insane that I get the opportunity to do something I really enjoy and can I ask you something about that yeah cuz it's like so dope what what you guys are doing and um also how you like one thing I respect about especially the comedian space with the podcast how you guys all Network and hang out with each other um is it just like really dope to be able to do a podcast where you just talk to like probably a lot of people that you're big fans of too like you have such amazing guess well like on flagrant yeah like with flagrant it's it's cool because you get the opportunity to just like hang with the boys yeah you know what I mean like I literally get to sit across from like two of the best comics in the world you know like in Schultz and akos and then like Alex for not being a standup comedian is like insanely funny and also not even really coming from like an entertainment background like Alex came from like production background right but is just so quick and so funny that he's able to like hang with some of the best comics in the world like even if there's no guest just the chance to like hang with the boys for fun and get like paid to do it is just like truly like I couldn't have fathomed that that would be my life I'm like so grateful just for the chance every day even when sucks and like yeah we got to turn the episode around in two hours and like we got to work on this thing like this that the third you're it's never not awesome yeah and it's important to keep that perspective for anyone that's like in it for a long time is like bro like I always tell people it's like you're on a yacht you know what I mean and even when it rains on a yacht or even like when the ra like waves are kind of choppy and the sea is annoying and you're getting a little seasick you're still on a yacht yeah you know what I mean like if it's going to rain you might as well be on a yacht while it rains like it's always awesome it's like I'm so grateful and then even with this show like just the opportunity to be able to like see your content and be like yo this dude is super funny I enjoy the stuff he makes and just sit across from him for like a couple hours and just talk and like learn his process learn how we grew up like how we CAU like started creating this is like so fulfilling for me yeah I would do this if no one watched I would do this for free it's just hard to drop 3 hours into my week normally so I'm like I might as well democratize it give it to everyone right but I I would be lying if I said I was like I'm only doing this for like other people like I do this because I really enjoyed connecting with other human beings and it's a different tone from flagrant where like flagrant is just like fun and everyone's talking but this I've noticed you get like more insightful and like really like get to know someone and I'm just so fascinated by like human beings and the way human beings are like yeah just yeah the chance to like really get inside someone's head and like learn the process you're a really good interviewer I appreciate that thank you yeah like the question you ask are obviously very thoughtful and I noticed they watching you know your your podcast but like also being here like I can tell I don't know if you just freestyle it but like yeah well things that you said to me are things that like I I haven't even thought about sometime but are like you know so that's how you know it's [ __ ] he like you're like yeah you're saying things to me that are not true [ __ ] no I appreciate you saying that man but like that's the beauty of the show like and the only real reason why like I want this show to grow like and get more views like get more of a community y y is like one it's cool to be a part of an awesome community of people that are like you know open-minded not judgmental curious wanting to enrich themselves and learn like like the people that listen to this show generally are that um but it's just really cool to get the chance to talk to more and more interesting people you know what I mean and as the show grows it's like oh I get the chance to sit down with like Elon Musk one day like how crazy would that be like sit down with Reeves like if this show gets to you know 10 million subscribers or like a million views an episode the opportunity to get K Reeves is is on the table yeah and that would just be so cool so like the only real reason I want the show to grow it's not for like money or any of the other [ __ ] like I'm I I'm fortunate that I get to make money through flagrant it's just the chance to talk with cooler people right you know what I mean and like just to have access to more people is awesome yeah you know I that's the way I am like I'm always the dude like if I get into Uber I want to know what's going on you're talking like if you get in Uber pool you're talking to the random talking to the people around me if I get into regular Uber just me and the dude that's cool I me I'm headphones in just listening really I love it I I just I see the flag I'm like oh Honduras are you from Tusa galpa they like no San Pedro Sula and I'm like no way I went to S Pedro and then we like I just want to know like how did you get here what did you leave behind like especially in America bro like everyone that came here left something yeah like there like in I'm sitting in a car with a dude that took an insane sacrifice and leap of faith yeah and to not ask about it is like a disservice to the [ __ ] he went through it like that's so crazy you know what I mean yeah I don't know I'm just I'm fascinated so every person that sits down I'm like I just need a know it's true and I do believe that there's something you can learn from every single person a million perc and I'm always curious what is that thing yeah like a lot of people say that where they're like oh yeah you can learn something from everyone but I'm genuinely like I wonder what this guy can teach me it's like fun to find out like what this person and I'll go down a path and like they'll start talking about comedy and I'm like H I don't know if they'll teach me about stand up comedy maybe but like I know a lot about it and probably more than most people so I don't know if they'll teach me about that and then I'll just Veer the combo somewhere else right and then they'll be like dude I love horror movies and I'm like I never watch horror movies what's the best one and then they'll start telling me about yada yada and I'm like I didn't even know that's the best would you ever do like um what like Theo Von does where he'll interview like notable people but then he'll also interview just like regular people like blue collar workers or 100% I think that's a super cool idea yeah I love that like you know let's say you just go to the deli and you meet a dude who's cool and there like yo you want to come on the podcast talk to him a million percent I'm I would be totally down that's actually one of those things that like again gets easier to do the bigger you get yeah because for a lot of people that have regular jobs going on a podcast like this is just potential risk true you know what I mean so like okay hypothetically I'm a coroner like Theo had a coroner on his show which is awesome but you're a coroner you have professional job you make good money from the city like looking at dead bodies and then if you go on a podcast with a comedian and he starts asking you questions and he let's say he's a [ __ ] and he's like going to Spring a conversation on you that you're not ready to have he like Israel Palestine what do you got to say and you're like what I I look at dead bodies bro I'm I don't have an opinion on this and then all of a sudden now he's caught up and he loses his job exactly or even if he says something on accident what if he just makes a comment and uses the wrong words and then his job is like what are you doing so it's just all potential risk but if you have a big enough you can go to them and be like hey look I have a track record I've done 500 episodes the way Theo's done where he's like yo I'm one of the biggest comics in the world you can trust me that is ultimately what I want also think it's really cool you did before the podcast where like if there's anything you didn't like or you want to cut yeah let me know and the other thing is like that's super cool and I feel like there wasn't anything except the U me not getting any girls we can I'm putting that at the beginning yeah put that we're amplifying that all right because that's the other part of it is like I just want it to be a like full free expression I want everyone to be able to come on and like feel completely free in what they want to share and on top of that like I do view it as collaborative like this is you and me dancing doing an art project together yeah you know what I mean and so being able to like share your story share other stories like explore ideas together like it is completely collaborative like I and I on some roster [ __ ] you know what I mean yeah man so like being able to do that is cool so by you saying something that you feel uncomfortable with I don't benefit from that you're my teammate right now so if you say something you're like yo I want to cut that out it's on you know what I mean like cuz I don't I'm not in the interest of exposing people or doing go of [ __ ] like it's not yeah I respect that it's it's not fun for me like what's the point you know what I mean I'm in this to like explore humanity and like meet people yeah there's no point in trying to like hurt someone's reputation I feel so bad I respect that Integrity cuz a lot of people like that easy click you know of just some there's clicks there's ways that like I this conversation can be packaged to be interesting and be borderline click ba where people are like oh I want to hear about that but to me it's only clickbait if it doesn't follow through yeah you know what I mean so it's like I'll package the conversation in a way that's the most interesting yeah but I'm not going to like mislead the audience intentionally in order to like get clicks or I'm not going to mislead the guest in a way in order to Grand ASE a story to you know pump clicks or whatever yeah you know what I'm saying so I don't know I I don't I don't [ __ ] with that with that being said do you like Bob Marley that's gonna be the title I Love Bob Marley we're going to we're going to edit that out it's be side quest Jamaican hates Bob side hates Bob it's interesting cuz I was uh reading this thing already where some people were saying like Bob Marley's overrated and the only reason he got to that status was because of um Chris Blackwell who was like his um not his manager but I guess his producer whatever he was his agent um kind of pushed him to American audiences and people are saying it's because he was like more watered down but I I completely disagree with that I know you're going to cut out the first part make me say that but no Bob Marley is the [ __ ] goat bro I Love Bob Marley and I love his whole family I think they're some of the greatest artists of all time I mean I think it's objectively true if you've ever traveled play Bob Marley anywhere in the world it it cuts through everything that's like what I was saying before like on some reptile [ __ ] like the his music permeates every culture we were in London 3 weeks ago in a stadium of people and they played like No Woman No Cry whatever everyone sang along this guy unfortunately has passed away probably like what 40 years ago 30 years ago I don't even know when he died Bob Miley yeah like mad long ago uh it would have been in the 80s I think so let's say 30 40 years so this guy passed away 30 40 years ago he was from like a small island you know what I mean like like remote like not even connected to London I guess obviously there's a London connection but like the fact that every single person knew the song from that long ago yeah and knew every word all singing in unison I'm like bro that's Legacy like you can't doubt he's iconic as [ __ ] you can't doubt the power you know what I mean and also half white he is half white not a lot of people talk about that so I consider him the greatest white musician ever yeah's we were talking about earlier about white people not having swag but he's represented for the white that's my point bro right like that's like he is yeah he's like Obama same Vibe Obama's one of the greatest white politicians that's actually I tried doing a joke about that I couldn't really figure it out but like if Obama ran for president of Kenya hypothetically he would be Kenya's first White president like crazy that's so funny to me like the how like uh transferable races you know what I mean like it's so subjective I mean he is white you know he's black in America but in an all black country he's white yeah you know what I mean yeah but I just always think that's so funny um can you tell me about about how you view DMT as art oh we spoke about that were the cameras running when we said that or no no I think they were up now I was just saying how I had a homie I went to college with this Mexican dude called Victor and he changed my perspective about what is and is an art cuz he um got me into the dark net and he had this little computer called the Raspberry Pi yeah that he would use to get on the dark net he's like yeah bro we'll buy [ __ ] DMT online and then smoke it and it'll be a dope art piece I was like bro that's not [ __ ] art that's just doing drugs but the more I thought about was like why why can't it why can't you view anything really as art um and in terms of DMT specifically that kind of is a [ __ ] art piece how many times have you done DM only once oh really I want to do it more but um where the [ __ ] do you get DMT bro I bought it on the dark web I don't have I don't have Victor anymore to access for me I mean now it seems easier to get right I've never done it but I know a hell of people that have done it right and when I did it the first time um I was like hella nervous I had to like I didn't know how to smoke it so I ended up buying like a like a meth pipe and that was weird as hell like going into Delhi and I was trying to like say it without saying meth pipe I was like yeah one of the pipes that's like long with like the the bulb at the end felt sketchy as hell buying it and then I I put it the DMT in the pipe and I was like I wanted to like test it out like see how it feels so I just like in ined it without lighting it and just inhaled a bunch of dry powder oh God and then my hands were shaky so I spill some on the carpet eventually I got it together and I took like a few big rips but I didn't really um what do they call it like breakr I didn't have the Breakthrough experience M cuz I just couldn't hit it hard enough it was like burning my lungs tasted like [ __ ] um but I had insane visuals but I want to smoke it again and actually do it for real what did you see when when you had that first experience um so my homie was sitting across on the couch like my roommate at the time I was like yo just come chill with me while I smoke this DMT just like trips at me basically and the dude like put his hand up like this to scratch his head and I just saw like you know like a 100 arms like a [ __ ] like Hindu god like this Bollywood poster you got he basically looked just like that guy on the poster and it was just Tri it was like a everything was like a kaleidoscope it was like the most insane visuals but mentally I didn't feel high I felt completely sober and grounded in reality but visually everything was insane kind of cool that was my experience interesting how long did that last like a couple minutes a couple minutes yeah wa or less and you weren't tempted to try it again I did want to try it again but um I just never got my hands on any oh really yeah do you have any not on me dude where's Joe Rogan when you need I know dude I gotta find some bro I don't know I feel like you could probably find it pretty easily yeah I mean I haven't really searching actively you kick it with artists like I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to find I guess it's just never come up but um I want to do it yeah but but you like LSD I love acid yeah and mushrooms acid and mushrooms and you were saying before most acid though you find them to be pretty similar yeah but for whatever reason acid like just hits you better acid is the one that I've always had good experiences on it mushrooms [ __ ] with my stomach a little more it gives me little tummy aches I've heard that um acid does too but not as much I don't know I've just had had really good experiences on acid it's like what are your best experiences like with acid um there's just times when you'll be hanging out with friends and you guys are tripping and you're just laughing and everything's just flowing effortlessly and it's like this is the happiest I've maybe ever been in my life I've had many experiences like that just chilling in the park with the homies you know but then also getting like really insightful and profound like epiphanies like just out of everyday little interactions that normally you would Overlook but because you're tripping balls you're looking at things at a different perspective and you're like wow this is actually teaching me something yeah that's interesting but I found like so I've tried to trip solo you know I read like Terence McKenna and he says like do a heroic dose and like sit in a dark room that doesn't really work for me really have you tried it yeah well not in a dark room but just like tripping by myself I don't really like it as much I just like to focus on having fun with my friends and through that I feel like I get you know positive learning experiences interesting what is the experience like alone boring I was a little bored you know I went to the park like took a bunch of bid listened to like tame and paa and it was just like I'm just sitting here by myself I don't know just high as [ __ ] just high as [ __ ] like it was fine but you didn't have any type of internal realization with your life no oh wow I was hoping to but I didn't really get that much from it but those times when I'll be with my friends not thinking about it we'll just be laughing and then I'll just like be like hold up like I just realized something you know interesting yeah yeah it's very interesting and then weed you like are able to smoke pretty regularly no problem yeah but you've had bad experiences yeah I mean like with anyone I feel like sometimes you get a little too high you know you feel a little paranoid or awkward mhm um I can be socially awkward like like most people and weed can sometimes enhance it I think the older I get the less I have experiences like that usually when I smoke weed now it actually makes me more social um it also depends on the strain I found now that weed is like pretty much illegal in New York I'm a little more picky about strains yeah um but weed for me is also very useful just to like if I've been thinking about something a lot from a sober perspective it's very helpful to get high and then think about it again also it really helps with like interpersonal relationships where you might be beefing with like a friend or family member or there's tension or you're angry about some [ __ ] smoke weed and it's sort of like at least for me I realized that that it's uh it's pointless to be to be angry or um kind of in your feelings about anything like that do you ever experiment with other things like ketamine anything like that done a little bit of ketamine first time I did it was by accident so it was kind of like how want accent I was going on a road trip Upstate with some some random people and this girl sitting next to me who I didn't really know like pulls out like a little baggie and a spoon and is like just like doing mums and she offers me I just assume it's Coke of course cuz like you know why you just kind of assume that's done blow before you're like yeah that's a good time yeah and I feel like kenman became kind of popular More in recent years at least in America and New York bro it's like the thing I think as like fent got in the coke like so I didn't know and I did it and then I'm like I said to her I was like this coke is like burning my [ __ ] nose uh and she's like oh that's that's K I was oh okay and then it kind of gave me jelly legs I really need to take a [ __ ] in like I had to like take a [ __ ] in like a random gas station I had like jelly legs and I was like this [ __ ] sucked but then my homie was who loves he's like no bro you got to do it when you're like you know in the club listening to like house music and Just Vibe with it um and I've done it a little small amounts here and there but I haven't really got too into it would you ever do iasa yeah I had a chance when I was younger but I wasn't really into psychedelics at the time I was in Bolivia and somebody offered like yo we could do this like iasa Excursion but I'd never done psychedelics at that point I was like 18 and I was like wellit I'm just gonna like [ __ ] myself and puke like doesn't sound that fun but why are you in Bolivia uh I was traveling with some friends after I finished high school I like travel with some homies around South America oh that's cool where'd you go sick we went to um Brazil Argentina Peru Bolivia and Colombia yeah and this on a small budget too I only had like a couple Grand that I saved up I made three grand like a month 6 months 6 months we slummed it like we we really like slept in like the shittiest places and took buses everywhere but it was a great experience did it get sketchy not really we I mean there were times you know we did get we got robbed at gunpoint one time yeah that's pretty sketchy yeah yeah so 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the continent you know like 15 plus hour buses and we were on this bus in Columbia and halfway through some people like three people on the bus all sitting in different areas got up at the same time one of them had a gun one of them pulled out a gun but they were like yeah were robbing the bus one of the dudes was sitting next to me I was all the way in the back and he sat down next to me and I was like very polite to me like I'm sitting next to this guy for 15 hours I was like hey what's up I speak a little Spanish I was like you know just being polite to him and I think I off him snack or something I I like to think we had a little sense of camaraderie so he didn't rob me but his homie further down the bus didn't share the same sentiment and he happily robbed me D but I was smart because a week before we got stopped by the police and they found my weed and I had to pay off the police and it really scared me cuz I was like [ __ ] bro I don't want to go to South American prison so I was like yo and I had weed on me on this bus too so I was like if that happens again I I was like y I'm going to take all my [ __ ] and throw it under this the seat so I was I already had that idea in my mind so when they got up I took all my [ __ ] and threw it under the seat the only thing they really stole for me was my backpack which had my rhyme book in it cuz I was rapping a lot back then and I was always thinking one day I'm going to see like a Colombian rapper come out spitting all my Rhymes that's wild yeah and then you had to keep on traveling for how long like after that so then they got off the bus uh we went to a poli the whole bus went to a police station we hung around there for I guess the police took a report and then we got on back on the bus and went to the destination how do you travel for 6 months on a limited budget like what advice do you have to someone's listening that's like yo I want to do that I feel like I'm not sure if I could even do it now like I was 18 then so I had like a lot of more energy and was down to like slum it but um just go with good friends because if you're in a shitty situation but you're with homies you can laugh about it and even those shitty situations like was just funny and like you know you're having a good time how did you route it um one of my homies was like who was more like responsible was kind of planning but we did it by just sort of um whatever we were feeling we'd go to a spot if we liked it we'd stay a couple days if we didn't like it we'd leave the next day we wouldn't we didn't stay anywhere longer than a week I think the place we stayed the longest was like Rio D are which is sick we were there for two weeks I think in Rio wow but most places was like 3 days I think we'd stay and then take a bus to the next spot yeah and a lot of people do that you see you bump into a lot of the same people that you saw a different town and the hostiles cuz you know we're staying at hostiles um honestly one of the best experiences of my life I highly recommend it if anyone wants to go traveling you know there were sketchy moments but don't let that deter you like I I never even when they were robbing us on the bus I didn't really feel like we were in too much danger like right you give him the [ __ ] give him the [ __ ] and that's it um it was it was a great time man and how many guys did you go with at the start I think it was like five or six of them us and then some left along the way by the end it was three of us and where did you meet them from these are kids I went school with where in England okay cool yeah and you were like yeah let's just let's run it up yeah we graduated and like you know like it's po it's common in England to like a gap year like before you go to college you take a year off so that's what we did oh that's cool yeah that's so interesting it was great man I learned a lot yeah about life you mean mean any women like I said I'm not good with girls so you know there's no way bro you make these videos where like you just talking to people you risen up chicks in the videos and [ __ ] it's an act there's no way all right I will say now I'm older I'm a little bit better but historically I've always been like B bad with girls no game negative now I got a little bit plus two RZ but that's pretty good back in no I'll be honest back when I was traveling South America when I was 18 my RZ was weak Loki did the videos help with the r no if anything is worse but like your ability to go talk to women oh to talk to women um if you can sing for a Jamaican dude you could probably like talk to a girl right now I can talk to women whether they'll you know like me is a different story but um come on dude you got it I got the you think I got got it bro 100% I got a little hidden RZ but I'm not I'm not what's your go-to what like what's your go-to line bro my go-to line I don't really have re L back when you were single you know what I mean but like let's say single let's say you see me just like a little bad little Ting up in the club yeah bad little ting what would you say if you were trying to like get me you know what I mean honestly I think I'd go for like um cuz I'm not like cool or mysterious so I think I'd go for a vulnerable all right so try it so try go ahead are we're going to do like a little improv just go ahead just try it this is in New York we're going to do New York and then we're going to do Kingston right okay hey what's up little mama how you feeling oh hey um I got say I love your curly your curly hair thanks you like that gosh thank you br you're making me shy now so what's up um I don't know man okay for negative wrist see what about P I feel like you might be a little better with with Jamaican one okay let's try it okay I think was was making it tough is the beard yeah yeah no that that a lot of guys say that all right yo going bab hey yo you know say look good you want come beat up the cervix see I went too far that's the problem have I proved now how bad my rzes no I honestly you're going to marry a Jamaican woman because the Jamaican RZ was awesome jamaan R was better yeah that was fire I enjoyed that a lot that was really nice bro that was got me bricked up after that one really yeah that was fire dude I'm G to have to remember that write that line down all right rapid fire there's a couple things always pressing on my mind every person I talk to I just need to know what you think about these things okay you believe in god um I don't not believe in God probably something I'd say I'm agnostic but I'm very open to the idea of just a big Bob Marley in the sky somewhere who knows respect that could be God you believe in ghost no believe in Voodoo no believe in aliens yeah believe they're here no you believe they're out there yeah somewhere uhhuh favorite movie P cab and C of the Black Pearl wow that's a great choice thank you specifically Curse of the Black PE yeah yeah why that one it's just the best one best actor of all time uh maybe H Phoenix who I don't know if I have a favorite act but he's really really good yeah you just recently saw Joker yeah gotta be it right no just in general he's good he's one of the best doing it now yeah I can see that I can see I don't know anything else he's in I'll be honest other than Joker yeah what else um he's in um Gladiator oh that's right right he's in her that's what she said that's what she said he's in the master which I don't really like that movie it's kind of boring but he's good in it favorite TV show Scrubs that's a great choice yeah scrubs is underrated if you wanted to get someone into scrubs what episode should they watch do you remember a specific one where you're like yo um I don't know if there's a specific episode but maybe like jump into like season five is kind of like Prime like if you don't mind jumping right into the middle of a show cuz it starts off a little more serious and then it gets more kind of funny yeah scrub is a good choice dude kind of a slept on show be honest it slept on and also what surprised a lot of people it's known to be like one of the most medically accurate like Hospital shows really they had like a real doctors on the writing team who would like they would run everything by just to make sure it was legit that's an awesome job yeah right like you have to be a doctor your parents expected of you and then you get to just like write on a TV show yeah sort of Ideal it's sick right yeah okay if you weren't an artist and you didn't have to do something creative what would you do that is a good question um maybe like real estate Why Real Estate I don't know I like looking at kind of cool houses and showing people it seems kind of chill yeah I'd be good at it you ever do that just like going like Zillow or like Street Easy you don't even need a new spot you just like [ __ ] I can't afford just go look at it just to see like my girl do this like during like Christmas time we'll just drive around and go look at lights but like we'll also try to like scope out like nice houses just to be like yo that would be sick yeah that house is awesome you know what I mean yeah I like I like that also you know what I think if if I didn't if I was an artist and also if I was a lot less stupid I could see myself getting into medicine oh that'd be cool yeah what kind of medicine I think I would be um just doing like Internal Medicine just like a general physician yeah oh no no actually I think surgery I'd be good at what kind of surgery I don't know but I just feel like I'd be good at it brain surgy with my hands brain surgery brain surgery might be a little stressful it's kind of artistry though there's an Artistry in surgery for sure kind of is no I respect that who's your favorite artist like visual artist yeah that's a good question I don't know if I have a favorite I like a lot of contemporary artists as opposed to like you know people who they teach you in school like who um in terms of contemporary artists yeah um kah Wy is really sick George condo he's the one who did um the album art for Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy that's cool um a couple other ones that aren't coming to the top of my head yeah yeah that's but how would you characterize the art that you like I don't know it's one of those things where just kind of like you see it and you like it you know it you see it yeah that's cool yeah my brother gids Young gids from the Block you're a legend I appreciate you sharing some rum with me I appreciate the conversation we have a limited amount of time on this Earth and you chose to spend a couple hours in my tent oh yeah thank you for having me man this is awesome yeah of course Brother The Vibes here so good just general just catching a Vibe you know what I mean yeah you tune into to this show dude there's like a 99% chance you're going to catch a Vibe also I'd like to say what people viewing probably don't know is that it smells really good in here I appreciate that like that's one of the that's the first thing I noticed when I walked here was like wow it smells good as hell Cedar incense dude that's the thing I grew up in uh Orlando Florida home of Walt Disney World not land world that's the big one and everything that Walt Disney did was everything was immersive you can't go into a space without smelling it's 4D it's got you got to smell it you got to feel it you got to taste it every every element in the space has to be completely interactive so that's something the people sleep on coming from out there in the studio to here was like a portal to a different dimension now we're talking there's more work to be done eventually I'll show everyone the whole thing we got a treehouse we got trees and stuff eventually they'll see the whole thing but only when it's ready right anyway kids I appreciate you let's go do this again sometime let's do it in Kingston okay will will you take me if I start a podcast you'll be a guest on it I would love it be in Kingston only if it's in Kingston I I'll be honest I'm not going to Bushwick no cuz I I have been thinking about it I'll go to Kingston though you won't go [ __ ] Bushwick bro I don't even want to go back home there tonight I would rather go to Kingston than Bushwick I swear to God yeah I don't blame you I'd rather go to Jamaica Queens than Bushwood you know what I mean that's the next best thing yeah exactly anyway brother I appreciate you let's do this again soon hell yeah dude peace

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Length: 135min 32sec (8132 seconds)

Published: Wed Nov 08 2023