What Women Binge: Patricia Heaton (Everybody Loves Raymond, The Middle)

hey guys we are back here with what women binge i look up and patricia heaton is walking into the restaurant dear friend patricia heaton what's the first time you were like okay i've made it or i'm good or i'm doing what i'm supposed to be doing yes another wednesday another what women should we change to what we binge i think we're the boys no i mean i'm glad that we have some male fans that are listening and a lot of men on the show i know but it's still about us as women and what we're into because women are so social yeah we like men we we definitely like men we like women most of us but it's yeah we like women we're women we're binging things like men we like women we like everything we love puppies we like babies we like everybody you know who else likes babies i do i know who likes little tiny chubby babies our guests today yes she does she does should we tell everybody who our guest is we should but we have other things to talk about too we do we do we get there okay guys we have a fun guest today a friend of ours but we'll get to that in a minute what are we gonna talk about today amanda what are you so you recently had some time i've had a lot of time on my hair yourself you know what i've done you've binged i've binged things but also you know what else i've done laundry no i've gone online and i've rated us you rate it up it's probably not good juju to like rate your own podcast no it's definitely good i did it um so here's the thing you guys with a podcast especially one as new as ours it's important to have like ratings and reviews so i mean the number one thing you guys could do is listen to the podcast thank you very much and we're glad you're here and we're so glad and number two would be subscribe and number three would be rate and review and then number four kind of a big four it's a big ask but we appreciate it is like supporting our sponsors because they support us so we can do this so um they're the reason we're able to be here be on camera have a beautiful set have the lights on that kind of thing so if you guys want to support our sponsors that would be awesome but if you just want to subscribe but if you want to rate and review right now we'll wait should we wait we'll give them a second we'll be okay here we go what's our what's our like ringtone while you wait are we maybe we should play the theme song do you know the theme song do you know who wrote the theme song i know who wrote the theme song you wrote the theme song amanda your husband my husband did it's the first time he's ever done anything musical for me oh that's not true my 40th birthday he did sing he i i wanted him to sing aerosmith's uh dream on and he did and not only did he sing that but he also sang our wedding song which is in excess never tears apart and he sang angel eyes to me which was the song he sang in our engagement party to me were you a puddle no but you know what recently i thought i lost the video i mean i was but here's the thing at my engagement party 500 people in alabama no 700 people in alabama this is why we had a small wedding in italy we had 85 people in italy but our engagement party because he was many generations deep in alabama we had not only you know we had like three generations of every family from the town come to our i mean we had to have 50 hostesses like five were on the food and five were on the drinks and five were on the flowers and three were in charge of the tent it was the whole thing and we had live music and mark got up on stage i didn't know he was gonna do this and he got up on stage and performed and he sang angel eyes to me i can't remember i don't even know who the band is ask your ear who who's the band that saying angelize um so he gets on the stage and he sings angle angelized to me but i'm right up front i'm holding on to my little sister i think it is and kind of rocking back and forth listening smiling and him like he's so cute this is so cool should i look at him should i not look at him should i look at the guitar should i look at his should i look at the band should oh i actually look at him and i'm going through my head through all this but i'm like smiling like this is a happy moment in my life but you're not eating it up i turn around and everybody's in tears his cousin my mom like am i having the wrong reaction to this right now yeah i'm not like i'm not an emotion i'm not like a happy crier usually yeah i think as i've gotten older i have but i really was never and i was so confused by my mixed emotions of like wait am i supposed to be crying but like i'm happy and like i don't want to cry kind of this is kind of groovy uh brain says it's the jeff healy band jeff healy band saying angel eyes and that's who mark uh yeah mark covered that for me and then he did it again at my 40th and it was really nice but we had a camera crew at my 40th birthday party because it was gonna be um put on i don't know like et or extra or something like that and they had the footage i never had the footage kind of like my wedding i still don't have my wedding footage because it was cut into a reality show so i have the old vhs tapes but that's it um and so i uh i recently found one of the songs he sang to me so i found in access never tear us apart oh maybe i'll post it you should so you guys can go to youtube and you can see this show and subscribe and then subscribe and then rate and then review and then i couldn't help myself though i was looking at it and you know i've gone through all the different places where you can get podcasts and make sure i subscribed and then i started looking at the reviews which are really nice we actually have are they incredible reviews which makes me feel really good yeah we should read some of them maybe we should maybe on the secrets episode oh okay guys so if you review maybe we'll read it we'll only read the good ones say we'll read the bad ones too but then i was like bad ones i'm gonna do this myself and then since two of my kids were isolated for covid so we've all been home luckily i did not get it my husband did not get it one of my other children did not get it so i had a lot of time on my hands and so you remember me telling you about the werewolf novels yes i was kind of i just finished one i was kind of over it wasn't ready to start another let me guess did you start twilight no okay worse than that oh no i downloaded simcity on my phone oh you've been into game are you a gamer now if that's what it takes to be a gamer you're gaming but where do you ever go through like angry birds no yes candy crush candy crush you get to a certain point and you're stuck on the same level for months yeah and it gets frustrating i'll probably go back in a couple years candy crush was the only thing i did in 2012 when i had tucker we both had babies nine years ago i got into candy crush and then and that was only for like maybe maybe two months while i was breastfeeding late at night and i would stay up all night to play oh yeah and that baby was gonna wake up again in an hour so i might as well just stay awake exactly and i did that and luckily you would run out of levels eventually or whatever it was hearts something yeah and then um and but before that before tucker came along there was angry birds and i was pretty into angry birds for a minute there but i'm mainly a sudoku oh have you ever done six towers no i think it was given to me by a tutor for my kids to have something like an educational game on the phone um that or flow there's something called flow that's the pipe stuff yes you have to get that you have to connect the dots through the pipe yeah you have to like build pipes but the six towers is numbered towers and uh sorry they're numbered like six to one and they're different colors and they're mixed up and you have to figure out a way to move each one from the top over so you have to do it systematically so you can stack them properly anyway it's hard to explain but it's pretty it's pretty fabulous and um and it's educational and helps i always think like stuff like that or stuff like sudoku or even like i think there's a game that is like simon but i think it's called barf i think it's called bar okay maybe it's not with an f but anyway i don't think it's bart anyway it's like a memory game with four colors and it goes boop boop boop boop boop boop you gotta remember like the pattern those are so frustrating i kind of love them i love anything like that very confrontational you think your failure is very in your face with those games it's like how far can you get dude yeah like really especially when you're on the airplane and they hear it through your headphones next to you yes but i do love sudoku and i'm back in a solitaire like i was when remember the first computers yeah everyone will play solitaire because it's the only thing you can play now everyone's scrolling i'm for that but i also like these games that have the stories so for the longest time i think we've talked about this before the sultan's game that i was into oh yeah oh my word have you done real quick sorry have you done clash royale because my son's really into clash royale and it reminds me of something that would look like a sultan type game i don't know i'll have to look it up okay i've not done that one so i had to give up the sultans because it was becoming too much and not only was it becoming a time suck but it's also like a money suck because in my head i'm like oh it's just ten dollars just reminded me of something and so i got rid of the sultans i haven't spent any money on video games a long time and then i downloaded simpson same city is it the same as sims so it's sim city so you're a mayor of a city and you're building this city up and you're making sims you were like one person yeah which i loved okay never did it never did it oh cause you get to play god it sounds awesome it does sound awesome so some of these things like anything that i ever thought i might get addicted to i wouldn't go near good choices and never went near those things cause i was like i'm probably gonna like them i'm not gonna do it yeah i appreciate this about you i wish i had the same self-control i don't when it comes to like food or fast cars but i do with other things yeah so so sim city sorry sim city interrupting you i download the game i'm in it for like an hour i've used up all my money and i'm like fake money fake money that they give you and i'm like well i just need to build some more houses so i buy 20 worth of fake money and i keep going it's such a slippery slope an hour later i spent a hundred dollars on sim city yesterday earmuffs brain um i i know here's the thing you just reminded me that there was a game called zoo or something zoo i don't remember what kind of zoo but it was zoo and you would build enclosures for your animals and feed them and try to get more animals and try to breed them and try to build a amusement park around it so you can make more money off the thing and i have to say i used to lay in bed at night while mark was asleep and i would like take track of which animal you had to pay off the most like if i got this out i would only cost this much but it'll make this yeah and i realized eventually that i'd spend 99 but you and that was overall that was in like the months that i was obsessed with that game i finally had to put it down and be like this is ridiculous i'm building a fake zoo that's and spending real money i it took me six months to get there with sultan's it took me three days to get there with simcity and i will be deleting it off my phone tonight you've got twos you've got to take a break if this goes what i'm trying to tell my kids i'm like it's already going poorly i tell my kids i'm like you have to take a break you cannot spend fake money like if you can't get it with points and stars or gems or whatever it is that that game gives you and you can't be patient enough to wait for those that's what i'm going to tell you amanda i know if you can't wait patiently for those gems and coins and stuff to pop up for you yeah i know then you can't play it i can't play it i'm it is shut off for you yes see we're just used to this like age where we get our information immediately we get our entertainment immediately we get our food immediately everything is so instant we're not used to having to wait and be patient we don't have to wait a week for our to listen to watch the next episode of our show we don't have to wait for the radio to play our favorite song we don't have to wait for the album to drop so we can go get the whole album we get songs here and there and then spotify's got everything you need and netflix has got everything you need and instant gratification gotta figure out a way to it feels good but now we gotta lengthen our comes back to bite you our attention spans have to be lengthened in some way that att bill is gonna tell logan i hope you're not watching logan oh hello i know you're listening right oh yeah he knows so should we bring in our guest i think we should i'm excited this is this is like my first friend in nashville i mean you're my like i mean i'll be safe because fast is fine bestest friend but patty was my first friend because she reached out to me on dm on instagram instagram does have some good benefits yes it does for real social purposes she reached out to me on dm because we both worked for world vision we met at an event in new york we had a lot of stuff in common and then we met up at an event and just couldn't stop talking to each other for probably uh 45 minutes or so so we found each other on instagram and then she found out i was moving to nashville and she reached out she's like are you moving to nashville i'm like yeah she's like me too and it was like well let's hang out because we don't know anyone we don't know what we're doing it turns out we lived around the corner from each other that's so so a lot in common lots of we have boys and stuff so let me give her a proper introduction though here well while you're you're doing that i just have to specify how i was introduced to patricia so all i've heard from melissa about her friend patti as she calls her was just how wonderful she is to be around and how much fun she is and how they go walking in their neighborhood and they have so much in common because she has boys nothing about the fact that they're both actresses or you know successful actresses that that has ever come up this is just my other mom friend and you're gonna meet her and you're just gonna love her so we go to dinner one night and we're sitting at the table and she's like oh i forgot to tell you my friend patty's coming i was like cool great i've been wanting to meet her and she was like a few minutes late we had a table of like seven and she took the eighth chair and about that time i look up and patricia heaton is walking into the restaurant and i look at melissa i'm like does patty happen to be patricia heaton and i was like i didn't know how to be i didn't want to name drop but at the same time she was coming so i should have probably warned you guys so now i warn you guys however you maybe shoulda yeah definitely it was funny everybody's kind of like what and they were all like uh you can't shock us like that again but then even though and then at my christmas party patty couldn't come but somebody else walked in the door and i've never heard a room get so quiet oh it was so so funny i was having this tacky sweater party it was loud it was i mean there were lots of people from all different um kind of parts of my life in nashville neighbors old friends football moms lower school moms like it was like all these different groups of people and it was very loud and all of a sudden jason priestley and his gorgeous wife naomi walk in stunning and i mean it got so quiet that i had to turn around and go what's going on it was like everybody's looking sucked out of the room it was so i don't know if that's rude to say to him but like maybe the like the air filled his presence filled the room so much that nobody could speak i don't know yeah but he it was so funny i've never seen anything like that happen everywhere i think every mom in that room went brandon's here yes it was just a moment of like wow now you've learned to warn us i have to warn you guys more i'm not a big i'm trying not to normally folk over here don't understand what your life is but what's crazy is i never hung out with so many celebrities until i moved to nashville but it's great here because now i can have him on the podcast it's true it works out to my benefit it does you're welcome okay so tell us about patty okay here's patty's intro guys uh but first go review our show oh wait i'm just kidding okay um she was born in ohio uh she felt a calling to entertain from the time she was a little little girl you can read about that in her books but by 1996 she hit it big time by starring in a sitcom on network television that ran for nine years can you guess what it is i have a guess following that high success she dove right into another huge hit show and when that ended she added a leading role in her third sitcom to her resume patricia heaton was ranked at number 24 on the tv guide network special funniest women on tv she should be a lot higher than that nominated seven times won three emmys nominated for 13 sag awards took home one statue um by the way the sag award is the heaviest of all of them i wish i had one they're gorgeous she was nominated for a lucille lortel award which is a big deal in the theater industry had a cooking show on the food network has a star on hollywood boulevard now i've got a i have one of those no i don't i think i should get one it's time i know you have to pay for it now though okay so all right buy me one amanda look when our podcast is at episode 300 i'm gonna get a star on holly boulevard just to be like patty she's married to a director actor husband dave who's so handsome together they have four sons and now they're my neighbors in our adopted home of nashville you know her from carol's second act the middle and everybody loves raymond my favorite or maybe you read her first book motherhood in hollywood how to get a job like mine which is really bright and fun and i recommend you listen to the audiobook it's wonderful um or her recent most recent book my second act which shares stories from women in all walks who aspire to make their dreams come true as they enter the later years of their life she has a heart of gold and does amazing work for numerous organizations and is especially known for and called to do work as an ambassador for one of my favorite charities world vision um she has sponsor children in zambia like i do and she just goes on trips with them around the world to do the good work that world vision does she's an a a very catholic um upbringing and comes from a very catholic family she has a sister who's a nun and she's just she is just a do-gooder on every level i mean a nice person giving sharing generous lovely amazing let's welcome patricia heaton so amanda you know that i consider myself like a lifelong learner like i'm always wanting to learn and get better and learn new things absolutely i'm right there with you yeah trying to learn like a new language or a new hobby or you know something that might carry me through the rest of my life to be able to just have a hobby i can say i i've gotten good at and i've mastered what are you working on now go to masterclass and you can work on anything you want i love master master class is so cool anything you're interested in i mean if you're interested in photography and learning how to write a screenplay in music any aspect of music songwriting mariah carey is doing songwriting can you believe that oh my gosh ron howard does directing and like i mean just you want to learn how to do 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here at what women binge with our dear friend patricia heaton we're so excited you're here thank you my first neighbor my first friend in nashville yes it was so crazy you like reached out to me on instagram dm yes because i i saw that you were saying goodbye to your neighbors and you were coming to nationals like oh my god where are you you know and then it turns out we're literally down the street literally down the street yeah it's crazy and so we've gotten together and done walks and had dinners and husbands and breakfasts and long talks and everything yeah yeah it's been so fun i'm so glad and that makes the transition easier right when you know you have somebody and then i meet your friends and then here we have all mutual yes and i'm going to steal your trainer we are going to steal your trainer we're going to have her on here too yeah you made it so easy for me moving here like knowing that i had you around the corner that i had a new friend and then i like and also like in our industry it's so hard when you move somewhere and you have make friends and like amanda and then like i have to leave all the time and sometimes people don't make room for you in their life again when you come back to town after being gone for weeks at a time yes so like the fact that we both have that in common right yes and and with some of our other friends too who are coming back and forth or going off to work and coming back here is great yeah it's nice that you can like you're like all right you know that where you have this transient like circus lights yes and so sometimes like luckily amanda always made room for me when i came back into town but like some people are like they've moved on they have other plans they forget about you know out of sight out of mind a little bit but um and that's why i love amanda too because she always made sure that we we went for long walks and yeah had our lunches and stuff i love all that with the girls it's so much easier for women to do that yes you know we are such social social being like i'm glad that my husband dave and mark went golfing together yeah like yes finally right there i need to do more of that but it's hooking the husbands up i know the husbands they have such a hard time like i mean i can't get my husband to tell me what's going on tomorrow he forgets to put things in the calendar he doesn't tell me things or he thinks he told me things he swears he tells me things maybe he does i don't think he does but the men just don't communicate i get so many like phone calls to me or or text messages hey can you have mark call me because are we still getting together tomorrow for blah blah blah blah it's so hard i feel like every time we're together patti we're like we got to get our husbands together like let's make them you know hang out more and that kind of thing they're just not good at it right well they need to be doing something yeah so they don't have to look at each other they can't say men in general no they don't talk to each other they're both focusing on the golf ball or a game we'll get them over like that gammon or something yeah right yeah that's my favorite board game i think logan logan and mark actually bonded over top golf actually there's a mandate for you for them to go on actually yes totally oh so it's a thing you go it's like an automatic different kind of mandate but it's there's games involved that aren't just like hitting the ball like there's targets and there where is it a place you can do it yeah and there's like numerous levels so you're just like you're just like it's like a driving range with food and oh cool i'm trying to do it a few times here downtown there's one in like every city now oh okay there's one in vegas but there's one i would like to do that i would actually i tried last year during like father's day and then mark's birthday in september which was also labor day so i was like well yeah of course they're like we're full i'm like damn yeah yeah someday someday when it's like a random tuesday yeah yeah girls night at topgolf yeah we should i've never golfed actually i'm i have a feeling i'd be horrible at it but i'm willing to try beginner's luck i mean man i like when i do things not knowing what i'm supposed to do and i get a little bit of direction i'm pretty good at it in the beginning and then it's when i start to try to think too hard right and try to improve like bowling yes yeah yeah my wrist gets tired and by like you know round five or whatever you call it the what it was called like anyway by the time you get to like the fifth frame frame yeah i'm like my wrist hurts and all of a sudden they're all gutter balls right before that i'm like three strikes turkey just get up there and happy gilmore that like yeah as long as you're running up like you're a hockey player i love it right i love it um oh my gosh we have to get into so much stuff we have to talk about what you're into but the fans at home of course and us we we're we're fans so we want to hear about all your things so okay oh my gosh i've read your book listened to one on audio read one um i read uh my second act and i loved the stories in there and and just hearing you transition um into what you called your second act and i feel like i i feel like i'm i'm borderline there now and so that was like i'm trying to figure out what my second act is well i mean i as as i've said to you before you have like 15 acts so far under your belt to you no i i literally like like people you know i i like know two casting directors in hollywood because i've i've only done like two shows but they both ran for nine years four or five you were on 30 something yeah i did have the longest running shows yes no uh yeah people don't realize that raymond was my fourth sitcom yeah so i had like three failed ones before then which were all a lot of fun one of the the most fun ones was called women of the house but it was a spin-off from designing women where delta burke's character became her as her congress husband dies and so she takes us over his seat and that was so much fun and linda bloodworth thomason wrote it and those women were really a blast terry garr one of the most hilarious people here's my funny story that i told terry garr while we were sitting in the hair and makeup trailer i said terry you probably don't remember me but i was a room service waitress at the park meridian hotel in new york from six in the morning till noon and i got an elevator and you were in the elevator and i was in my little french maid waitress uh outfit and i think you had just done tootsie i think you were doing press for tootsie and i just remember standing next to you i may have said hi to you and i said so what i'm trying to figure out is am i now on my way up or are you on your way down like where are we as we're sitting in these makeup chairs together we're back in the elevator that's awesome but you know it was funny because at that survival gig i also met dustin hoffman and um and john cougar mellencamp who i called john cougar underpants because that's how he would answer the door when you brought his coffee no robe just underpants same with john that one's your oldest son in the middle yeah that's exactly axel um and um yeah so and got we got free tickets to the stevie wonder concert at carnegie hall because one of the other room service waiters went up manny and just said mr wonder i'm a big fan of yours and stevie gave him 12 tickets in the second row and all of us from room service got to come and see his concert yes so some of those survival gigs were really fun because you know you were young you're in your 20s you don't have any obligations you're just well that's you this was new york in the 80s and your story is so amazing how you this is what you always wanted to do it was so clear to you right that like this is from like four years old and on like this is what you want to do and you were one of those working actors that like you you kept at it and you you supplemented your income in other ways until you until you got there yeah until it was like go time and you were in it and and i love that your husband too that you guys like support each other through your careers and um and you know you go back to like well tell you you want to tell some of your like earlier stories yeah i mean you know i was in new york for nine years after graduating from ohio state moved right to new york um and i you know i had a bunch of different jobs i worked in this little empanada shop and then that person owned an argentinian italian restaurant so i became a hostess there i modeled shoes every four four times a year for the shoe show that came into new york um that you can't try doing that huh oh well you got to buy all the samples you did yes oh my god since they fit you yes and you were a size six because you had to be a size six that was like that was the example shoes i don't know are you a six i'm a six oh okay shoes are god's way of coming amanda frugal i have gigantic feet but you have a purse collection that oh i have a hand pack yes okay okay but you know that shoe modeling got me my first trip to italy because they needed someone to go and do fit corrections in the factories so they i went over right around christmas that is awesome and i went i was in rome milan and perugia and they put you up in these fantastic you know i mean it was amazing and the gal that sent me over said don't worry everybody there speaks english nobody spoke english thankfully i had my little this is back before cell phones or anything i had a little translating book a little book yeah flip through yeah like oh my gosh and i had to be taking trains by myself to these different cities and you know so um no i had you know pursuing that acting career you know opened me up to a lot of adventures and meeting a lot of different people i ran the xerox machine at people magazine for a couple of years yeah and yeah you would imagine that like all those experiences i mean as actors we want to like slide into different skins and personalities well william esper was my acting teacher in new york for two years he taught meisner technique and when we finished the two-year program he said okay now what you need to do is go out and live because you need experiences to understand to have something to bring to these characters yeah because we were all in our 20s and he said you need to go out and just live and so you know even running the xerox machine of people magazine was really really fun um those were back in the days when when corporations were spending wildly so we they would always have these what they called pores at the conference room at the end of the hallway which would mean they would pour champagne and they'd find any excuse to have a pour a birthday um somebody got a new necktie oh we should do that you should have pours here but there we should definitely have support but there was one a day where f murray abraham came in because he had he had done an interview for people magazine and then right after that won the oscar for amadeus oh wow yeah and so he that's a poor so they had a big pour they had a big cake for him and champagne and he came off the elevator and he had one of those red apple grocery bags you know remember red apple grocery stores yeah and he comes in with a grocery bag and he pulls his oscar out of the car and we all got to hold it you know he was so lovely he's such a kind lovely wonderful man and what was really fun is years later once i'd been on raymond for a while i got a call from the editor people he said um if you're coming to new york i'd like to take you to lunch and i'm like oh that'd be great and so we had lunch at the 21 club and we go down into the basement and there's and it's this special private like uh wine room private dining area and there's all these other people from the magazine there and i was like what's who is this for and he goes it's for you and i was like i was the one always taking it like one of my jobs along with running the xerox machine was running around taking everybody's dinner orders uh on the the night every tuesday we put the magazine to bed which would sometimes end at like two in the morning yeah so you'd have to take everybody's dinner orders and and there were all those people there whose orders and now have you like been in it more than the days you work there maybe twice yeah no i'm sure you've got a lot more than that wait we don't have pores here but we do have fuzzy socks you want a pair of fuzzy socks yes i'd live up here i like the black one with the heart right there yep that's the one keeping it easy thank you they might be attached here oh look and they pulled a little sparkly there you go and they've got these grips on the bottom you want to wear them either way i'm going to wear them as mittens oh there you go there you go keep your hands my bracelets from clanging okay so okay so i have to ask you so like so you went through all the you know you really you really like what's the term like not earned your keep but like you really like worked through hater dudes paid your dues in order to get to where you were wanting to be what was the moment when you knew that you would like or what's the purchase that you made or what's the first time you were like okay i've made it or i'm good or i'm doing what i'm supposed to be doing yes um you know i was in new york for nine years and basically couldn't get arrested i think i did two commercials and then when i finished my acting uh classes we formed a theater company produced a play i was to produce two plays was i was in one of them i took that play to la and then produced it in l.a an invite i invited casting directors to come so i come to la i'm what 29 no real resume to speak of except for the one play i produced to put myself in and two commercials you gotta start somewhere uh i didn't have a car uh i had uh maybe five thousand dollars in the bank and um i was staying at my cousin's girlfriend's mother's back bedroom in west hollywood and you know all my friends back in ohio had cars homes kids pets yeah jobs um but i just thought i'm gonna give it a couple more years here and then and then i might have to go back to school and do something because it wasn't seeming to go anywhere um i started i invited casting directors to this place so i took that five thousand dollars i think i had gotten it from residuals from a pap's blue ribbon beer commercial nice thank you peps i rented a little theater we just put the same show on because i had gotten great reviews in new york and and brought these uh casting directors and so they i started getting interviews and little jobs day player stuff from these casting directors coming to see this play and then i was um proofreading for a law firm doing a proofreading um or no summarizing depositions for a law firm and uh somebody who is also a temp was saying hey uh i'm doing this play and the lead actress dropped out and can you come and take the part oh wow and i read the part and i was like this is a fabulous role so i learned it in two weeks and got more more casting people to come and from there i started getting work third i got a couple episodes of 30-something it was one episode and then as a as an ob gyn and then they hired me to be the ob-gon for all the women characters on the show oh wow yes so i ca i ended up doing seven episodes of that and this is always delivering babies delivering babies and telling them about cancer news feeding stirrups yes a lot of that and um i had to i remember the first audition i didn't i wasn't sure how to say epidural because i hadn't had any now i'm very familiar with epidurals um but um how did you say it i just asked him i said how do you pronounce what is this yes um but it was interesting because that audition it was ed zwick and marshall herskovitz two incredible writer producers and after the i was literally just doing this straight doctor sort of imitating my ob gyn who was japanese and very just dry and strict and they just after the audition they said you are exactly like my wife's ob oh my god and they said where did they come from oh no yeah they said where did you come from and i was like oh i just moved here from new york they're like okay and they called me later and wanted to know all about my background and i ended up doing seven episodes wow and that really because that was the hot show to be on at the yeah and i didn't even have an agent then so people were like how did you get on that show and i'm like oh no the casting director saw me and and then hired me wow so did you get a car then i did get a car i got a my first car was a 74 toyota corolla with a faulty starter oh and when i was on i think oh my first big sitcom was with linda lavin called room for two and it was at warner brothers and i would drive this car and at that time they didn't have parking they had the valets they had these valet girls so you'd drop your car off to the valets and they would take it and go park it for you and at the end of every day i'd be back there waiting and they would come running up and they'd say we can't get your car started only you can start it that was that's a good security uh right only i can start your car i mean it was such a little piece of junk but it was like my piece of junk it was my first car oh my god and um so yeah i eventually traded into a honda accord that was and my husband and i shared it we had one car between us we did everything when did you guys meet and when did you get married we met in new york uh i had been living in hoboken but i wanted to move back into the city to be closer to the guy i was dating at the time so i sublet my husband's apartment to be closer to the guy i was dating oh because dave was going off to do some shakespeare in baltimore okay and it wasn't really an apartment i found out it was one room in an upper west side pre-war huge apartment with three other guys living there oh yes well that's one way to meet a boyfriend so i took it my husband went off to baltimore but we kept he kept calling me under the guise of like uh the phone bill or the renter oh yeah yeah yeah and then um and then uh he was smitten he was smitten dave smith i was a i was a little smitten because he was british yes he has a fantastic accent yeah he's very handsome yes and he's handsome um you know i was kind of trepidatious about actors but i was sure he was the wrong guy cried all the way down the aisle she just knew i was making a mistake yeah people like i mean your wedding was amazing it was so beautiful you were so emotional and like yeah i was terrified but meanwhile four boys and four boys thirty some years later yeah thirty years well it's all working out okay i think so you know every anniversary if we turn to each other we're like we're still together yeah like this is enough right anything we're going to learn about each other now is going to be stuff like what's that thing on your back so that brings us back to so your most recent show well first i have to tell you um first of all i was a i was a fan of everybody loves raymond even though you guys caused a lot of grief for us on sabrina um oh we did not really but we shared a lot of hair and makeup we shared hair and makeup people yeah and then i realized you took ralph yeah ralph was our fantastic hairdresser he's amazing he did the antis on my show yeah caroline and bathroom and then um and so your show was taping on tuesday nights and we taped wednesday so you did monday tuesday right and we did wednesday thursday friday so lucky yes we didn't do a live show so we we taped all day wednesday thursday friday and um and i just remember yeah ralph your hairdresser who then went on to do the middle with you right uh or at least the pilot part of the did part of the okay so he and then he went on to do like two and a half men and stuff like that he was supposed to do my hair at uh at my wedding and i bought him and his husband tickets to italy to come get me ready and he's like one of my best friends and then ray was doing a movie in canada and the movie went long and he was like i have to stay with ray and i said it's a guy and it's his hair he goes but it's rey and he won't let me leave and he didn't come to my wedding and it was like devastating for me i was like where's my hairdresser on my wedding because ray was i needed him more than i did apparently on my wedding day right but um yeah so we shared a lot of the same people aaron yeah that's still my bestie yes um we have suzanne on there yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of the same people and um and and probably a lot of the same like i feel like we probably had rotating directors yes cast members and things like that too i feel like uh there was a lot of kind of crossover but then um i just have to mention because my favorite episode we brought we were talking about it before we stepped in here the uh the big fork and spoon yes episode yes that was the suitcase episode the suitcase episode yeah where where we leave the suitcase on the land guys come back from a vacation yeah a suitcase is sitting on the line it's like such the quintessential married problem yes stupid thing that nobody yeah the one thing nobody wants to do and you feel like the other person should do it they won't do it you keep stepping over it and it becomes like this bitter rivalry thing yes if you guys if you at home have not seen this episode you've got to watch it because it's and uh tucker cawley wanted an emmy for writing that episode oh really yeah oh i didn't realize that yes that is it's so funny because of all the episodes i've seen that one always stood out to me and i actually watched it again a few weeks ago i was like i gotta watch that up it's a great it's a great one because at the end oh and doris roberts doris came on and was uh played joey lawrence's grandma on my show melissa and joey and i got to work with her for two or three episodes oh that's fantastic and right right at the end and she was oh just a doll yes loved her well she's one of those great old showbiz broads you know she started out on in new york early on doing theater and she's just like a old top like she drank more champagne than anybody like and she was always going on cruises you know and speaking it on cruises and that was her personality yeah i love it yes and catherine hellman played my mom oh my gosh i did a movie with her in 1986 she isn't she amazing the most elegant woman i think she was on melissa joey too i can't remember i think she might play my grandma yeah that's so crazy yeah every day at rehearsal she'd show up beautifully quaffed beautifully dressed and she she came across as kind of genteel but she also was one of these really hard working all her life like betty white like all you know i mean it's just i georgia engel was on our show um playing um brad's mother-in-law uh robert's mother-in-law and you know she's also passed now um but we i just got to work with all these older women it's amazing yes it's amazing and then and then you also had to work with kids which is not easy right yeah and and on raymond our kids were sort of not a huge part of the show you know it was really more about the adults um but on the middle when they were around there was three of them right they're like running all yes right yeah yeah it's like it feels like all or nothing yes that's what she's got she's got the twins yeah and uh yeah no it was you know but they were wonderful kids and then on the middle um those kids also were just fantastic actors i mean for so young and the thing about kids on set the one the good thing about them is their memory can be so sharp if they're focused if they're not like fully like yeah what's that shiny thing over there if they're actually focused the kids will tell you you're lying yes i used to do it myself when i was well i you know i remember sitting the makeup trailer and i had been up the night before because there's no rehearsal on a single camera show you go in you have a little blocking rehearsal and then you just go back in the makeup trailer and memorize your lines well you know i was doing mine the night before just to try to get it in my bones yeah i have to do it the night before yeah not just do it the day oh no i'm panicking especially because then you're adding in your you know whatever business and blocking and stuff i would come in and there would be lovely eden cher who played sue clearly kind of perusing for the first time how do you do it and then she had monologues she had these long speeches and she would just right through yeah that's the good thing the the child's brain memory of an elephant yeah like well that's the opposite memory of an elephant's not supposed to be good you know it is good it is good yeah um but they would you know they just like i remember there's so many stories of like i think shirley temple and lion will barry moore like where she's telling him his lines and you know feeding these adults their lines and it happens all the time and and it's you know even though it's annoying it's kind of one of the best things about them is that the kids remember that stuff and and i used to be that even when i was in my you know 20s and 30s i was really good you know if they changed the lines if they changed the blocking i could do it so quickly and now i have to work a lot harder at it and i don't know if it's i think part of it is that that fire yeah you know you had that fire when you were young that's just so intense and then well you also don't have a lot of stuff clouding your brain it kind of just before kids oh your brain is like if your brain's clear yes you're like there's room for that in there you have to like delete a lot of crap in order to like that's right in the diaper bag yeah when's their doctor's appointment did they get the dtap vaccine did they you know right exactly and and then now with phones you're clogging up your brain with just a lot of useless crap all the stuff we know on tick-tock yes the scrolling what are you scrolling on tick-tock what am i okay well um because of the chinese i don't know she doesn't want to be tracked guys we run carol's second act and all the young that was right when tick tock came out and all the younger actors of course are all doing their tick tocks and i was like hey kids you know the chinese are tracking you on tic tac that's why i'm not doing tic-tac-toe don't do the tick-tock did doris do that kind of stuff to you and now you're doing it to them yeah it's like trickle down well you know who else was a great mentor to me is linda lavin who was working all the time and she was she played my mom on my first sitcom on her well it was her sitcom room for two and um she was such a great still is a great mentor to me she taught me all about real estate you know and yeah um and just how to be on a set you know so i feel like now i'm sort of that older person which is interesting isn't it weird it's it shifts so quickly i went from being like the youngest on set to even with the crew all of a sudden i'm like yes now i go on set and i'm like i'm kind of the oldest person here unless ed bigley jr is with me like this is weird am i supposed to know everything am i supposed to pass down on wisdom because i just need to take ed begley jr with you everywhere i go i try i try you know what i do a lot of young sheldon and then i um i he was in a movie i made him play my dad in a movie and i was like i do kind of drag him everywhere i can with me well he's the loveliest person to have around too seriously is yes and if you don't know about his career go check it out because oh my gosh she's amazing um and then i have to say i never really i mean in the middle you did like 261 episodes like a lot of people and i had never seen it before but amanda oh it's hilarious raving about it and since you were coming in i was like i gotta check it out i couldn't stop watching it last night and it is i didn't realize how much i'd relate to it yeah because that's not really your childhood right no but like well no i did have a pretty i had a pretty like actually you and i because because i've read your books yeah um had a pretty similar childhood i said you and i because when i was reading your books i figured that um you and i had like a lot of that sort of like playing in the street yes like a little bit of free so the lights came on until the lights came on a little bit of like yeah like that like getting dirty and and also seasons and things like that like you grew up in ohio where like you were saying in your book yeah like deep winters and like beautiful springs and like beautiful falls and then like hot summers with fireflies you guys go around and smack the fireflies so i i kind of had that upbringing so i do relate to the middle more than i ever thought i would yes i mean i first of all i was shocked by the oldest son your oldest son in it and like he brilliant it's so it's such a funny it's charlie mcdermott playing axel my son mason is exactly like axel it is insane he walks around half naked right it's all about football he's always making fun of his little brothers and sisters i think he's smarter than everybody yeah it's so and then i have the middle one who kind of can't figure out what he's good at and i can't figure it out and then that's the other thing you and i have in common is we're both boy moms yes so um boy moms there's a there's a serious thing with yeah mom's man it's uh there's a connection there but they talk about that a lot on the middle and frankie talks a lot about you know like for holidays um the the boy goes to the girl's house for the holiday like we have you know our kids aren't married yet obviously they're too young um but you're gonna have to give them up on the holidays that's i'm so afraid i like literally when i had three boys i kind of went okay never gonna be mother of the bride probably never going to be present for a baby being born like one of my grandkids unless i'm really close with my daughter-in-law's just be super nice to them super nice oh i'm already planning how i'm going to be as a mother-in-law oh let me tell you i'm taking notes and uh yeah and like the the whole like you know the the wife always kind of dictates where you live i mean yes i'm a special circumstance where my husband dragged me to nashville but right thank god thank god right amanda bye patty yes i mean that's why we're all here but um yeah it you know it's it's funny because it's usually the other way around right and i'm like figuring my husbands are going to get my husband's my sons are going to go wherever their wives right drag themselves i don't know you never know i followed my husband here yeah so i mean he had some pretty deep-seated family stuff you had to well no actually he was here on his own when we first met yeah um he was doing oh the family all followed him yeah they all came here after we had children i guess that shows so if you if you raise strong boys maybe they'll stay nearby maybe i don't know my in-laws are my neighbors so my brother moved into my childhood home so raymond yes honestly yes but it is with a much less volatile relationship between them yes but those just aren't funny amanda i know a nice relationship with your in-laws is not funny my in-laws were already here this morning patty got to meet them we saw them running around outside so then you did carol's second act which only went for a year oh it was only one year yeah only one year but it was on network so you did a lot of episodes yes yes was it 24. no we i think we only did 18. 18. yeah they're getting fewer episodes everyone's ordering less nobody's developing anymore and that's the sad part about sitcom stuff but um but we have to circle back to your tick tock real quick because i think you didn't let us into what you're actually you're on your tick tock i don't do chocolate oh sorry i'm doing an instagram yeah i knew that because we all talked about how much you know in this day and age you need to find soothing things on your social media so of course dodo for all your animal videos give me all of the cheesy animals i don't know it's like pandas falling over there's a lot of rescues yes and the ground before and after that lived in the garden did you see that when i saw the woman who made friends with a wingless bumblebee oh oh they literally were friends these are my people how did they know it was wingless because they you could see it oh my gosh that the bee didn't have any wings wow so they became pals and she took care of it until they stopped b movie i've never seen b movie um but there's one called tiny gentle asians and it's all very chubby asian babies oh my gosh so they like rolls of fat on their legs and i'm kind 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just came back on yeah and this is the final fourth season and they've they they usually did sort of like seven or eight episodes they've done 14 and so they've split it into two so we've watched the first seven okay and binged it so i couldn't mark and i couldn't get into it very violent i have to i have to warn any of your viewers you're not worried about violence but i guess you know what mark has a hard time with people that don't redeem themselves like house of cards he had to give up on early and stuff like that yes so i wonder if he's not watching succession no he's not digging it but he loves things like suits and blue bloods and i feel like that's i feel like he would probably like success white collar i think succession is an acquired taste because i remember watching it at the beginning and going what is this show i wasn't getting it because it's this very weird dark satire so and i wasn't getting that at first i'm like i said to my dave is this a comedy or a drama i can't tell what it is but once i got the hang of it yeah it was completely addictive and um are gonna get along it takes you like a little while to get to really like the taste of beets right it's like one of those yes yes actually yeah that's true an acquired taste all right have you acquired that taste because beets yeah yeah it was something about my 30s or maybe it was my pregnancy when i was like 36 that i was like my whole life that was anti-beet and here i am and i actually roasted beets the other night oh okay quick random beat story i went to new york i've got one too go ahead i went to i went to this is actually not about beats but funny enough yes um i'm in new york it's my birthday i think it's like my 37th birthday and i'm pregnant with my third son and all i wanted was a street dog i just wanted a hot dog from a car you know yeah and uh my friends are like you can't have a hot dog when you're pregnant you can't have a hot dog especially from a street fighter you can't do that you can't do that and i was like why not so we go and i google it i'm like why can't you have a street dog and it was like well partly if it's not boiled hot enough but mainly it's the nitrates in it that everybody's worried about but then i find out there's more nitrates and beets like one beet and i've been having beet salads every day you know had a juicer on the set of the middle and i remember someone making me a beet juice and you know so i drank the beet juice and then i'm in my trailer i'm like i feel odd i feel really oh no literally my mouth filled i kept my mouth shut because i didn't want to throw up in my trailer and i it better look like blood and i thought i think it was just too it's very sugary beet juice you know and so i think it i just over did it i mean my body and i think the only two people look at oh really oh sure beet juice is one of my favorites though we gotta mix it with little like apple and lemon but like beet juice is like my favorite kind of juice drinks i love a little goat cheese on a beet salad that's what it is when i think of beet juice i think of sweet dirt yeah it's got that i kind of like it i don't know why that's also only going to come back for one more season so wait explain ozark to me because here's the thing and maybe there's a few maybe there's still a few people out there that feel the way i do like we got into a few episodes of it but didn't really i didn't really get the gist of what's going on so it's the can you just give me yes so so jason bateman plays marty bird and he is an accountant but it turns out he's an accountant for a drug cartel oh does he he doesn't know that yeah i don't think cartel knows books yes they do they have to they have to launch business right all right so his part i think his partner is the one that knew what was going on i can't remember if the first season if he actually understood that's what was happening but it it comes back to him and a bunch of violence starts happening and he and his wife uh played by um laura linney who's amazing wendy she plays wendy so marty and wendy take their two kids and they go to the ozarks to start because then now now he doesn't know if he doesn't launch keep laundering the money he's going to get killed so he flees they flee chicago and they go to the ozarks which nobody's done a show in the ozarks before that's heard of the ozarks but you know and it's a huge vacation place it's actually beautiful but it's a little bit funky also yeah right and there's a lot of gambling and stuff earthquakes and uh so he um so the family and now the kids find out what their parents do and now they're a bit complicit in it but they have to do it okay and they run don't watch it again i'll try local mafia like kansas mafia it's this it's what i love about it is it's it's a an environment you haven't seen before yeah and you ha you take normal people your average american and you put them in this crazy situation it was a fish out of water yes yes totally a little bit like bright it sounds a little bit like breaking bad maybe a little bit like breaking bad definitely has a breaking bad vibe which i also loved and um and and what's great about laura linney's character is she just turns into this monster oh very cool calculating monster oh so it's very great parts right you sold me out but it's very violent i have to say so i'm okay with that i did game of thrones and they're putting people's heads on pikes and like you know dabbing like darkly so true for me because i i would have to watch it during the day dark affects me amanda's very amazing well no amanda likes her bright colors and she's very very creative yeah she likes her happy you like your ted lasso i feel there was a thing about it the other day because you know uh we're all women of faith here right and i was thinking it's very hard to do stories about good people and make them interesting well to be honest you have to have drugs and that's you know with the screenwriting course i just finished taking i was learning a lot about like you can't fall in love with your characters and you can't try to be nice to them like you have to be mean to them and that's like you have to have the conflict you have life is mean and ted lasso gets away with it in a way i mean the outside world is sort of attacking the whole team but the team sticks together so you know there's a few examples of that but i think you can be a positive person but no matter what there has to be conflict like it's interesting and i mean one of the things we talked about with like succession is that they're all kind of garbage humans yeah but they're so funny you know my friend my friend we have a little text chain of gallows and my one friend said well i watched yellowstone because everyone's watching me but come on it's like horrible people yeah and violence no thanks and i was like okay look at succession horrible people violence yes please it's funny that's actually what i've been comparing it to when i was watching secession i was like because i love yellowstone but i was like secession is like is like yellowstone except not set in the cowboy world like and minus the violence for well right what yellowstone no doesn't have quite the violence yeah that's true they don't have the violence yeah but yeah yellowstone has that crazy violence where but like you but you're kind of like well they're cowboys so yeah they're right but they're cute are you watching 1883. yes yeah do you like that i love it yeah i'm actually a few i didn't quite get through it yet but um it's like that one that's sitting there waiting for the time like i feel like i have to be like wide awake i have to get to bed earlier yeah cause it's really i mean faith hill and uh tim mcgraw are so good yeah they're very really are yes but yeah i'm loving that show and uh yeah i do i just and still come back to it who's the the other lead guy oh um sam elliott sam ellie elliott i mean that guy is such an iconic character actor that guy doesn't age he's been the same age like he's kind of like robert one of those people that has looked old for a very little just like doris just like betty white like these are people that like doris played has always looked older gene right they they were they were character actors that have always kind of it's bizarre like that big lebowski was how many years ago oh gosh and he has a yeah and he hasn't but 25 years i always thought that about doris roberts like when she was on melissa and joey she looked no different than she did 30 years before on christmas vacation you know like that's right you kind of she's she played the grandma her whole life right since she was 40 yeah right so yeah i get it i could i could i feel like i could start playing the grandma soon yeah have you have you done grandma yet uh yes i just did a a movie that's coming out in march called unbreakable boy oh yes oh you have to tell us about this exactly levi yeah um and i i you produced it no it wasn't producer oh that wasn't the one you pronounced okay um but um yes i'm now graduated to grandma oh i mean it's funny because i'm in the trailer but literally i'm in the movie for a total of maybe five minutes if five oh really well funny i'm just starting to play the mom strangely i've been a mom for 16 years now myself and i was a late mom yes i was 30 when i had my first well just almost 30 when i had my first son but it's funny because i never played a pregnant woman i never played uh a mom of a baby i've only been the mom of teenagers in my show no good nick i was a mom of teenagers and i'm about to uh come out in a movie where i'm the mom of like two college kids and a teenager really am i already there i've never even been pregnant but it's also the first movie i just skipped over that whole thing yeah i still have like my bucket list of things i haven't done like i haven't i haven't died right i haven't um i had i was saying a few years ago that i've never played a mom but now within the last five years that's changed uh i've never been pregnant yeah i have to i'll have to take some of these off though do you have any things that you haven't played yet um well i i always wanted to ride a horse in a movie which you just did just did and so i did that for uh i think it was a tnt movie um and uh that was fun it was really fun to take lessons i mean i had one scene where i rode a horse well when you have to like it was interesting for me when i was doing the movie mistletoe montana i had to i had to play a cowgirl and in order to do that i really wanted to be authentic on that horse and so i had to get comfortable i had to force myself i mean i thought i was going to die some days going out to ride but i was i would say goodbye to mark and the kids and be like i don't know if i'll see you guys this horse really doesn't like me but like i was trying my best to get comfortable and it was fun it was really fun yeah yeah that was a good one that was actually one of mine too that i was like someday yeah that's a great thing to do like a period piece you know that would be fun and even you get give me the courses yes put me in a corset yeah yes yeah gosh they're so beautiful yes but they look fantastic but like they're torture boobs up to my chin yeah where's my bangs today because i didn't want to be squeezed just give me the waist the big skirt yes i actually did a uh well that's a straightforward we'll talk about that another time we you were telling me about some podcasts that you liked and i listened to some yeah so i have sort of eclectic i listened to um tim keller he's the pastor from president you told me that one a while ago yeah so i listen to him every day um and he basically they've basically he has over two thousand sermons and they're just all uploaded he's got so many books and he's so many books he's just amazing he's just a wonderful guy to listen to and then i'll listen to um atheist sam harris because he has a lot of interesting is that which one's hidden brain hidden brain is just its own kind of thing and that's all different aspects of the brain sam harris sam harris does um making sense okay that's the one i just listened to yeah that one i could not get in well it depends on his guest so he has a lot like he's a neuroscientist i believe so he has a lot of cool guys on who talk about psychology and neurology and that kind of stuff so i love to listen to that kind of thing um but then so that's hidden brain is the one that you you turned me on to um because i started to listen to one of sam harris i think it was about sleep or something yes and yes i listened to this one yes but i it just i don't know if it's his voice or whatnot i got a little drowsy in the car and i had to change it okay part of the one of the things i do love listening to sam harris for is he has this mellifluous voice that's kind of low and if i'm trying to get to sleep oh it's good i'll put it on and this is not to say to sam harris your stuff puts me to sleep i do find interesting but if i'm trying to get to sleep and i need that little thing yeah it relaxes come um get patty to sleep yeah well you know what what's interesting i didn't realize that when you put the podcast on there's a timer where you can set it to go off what for 10 minutes or 20 minutes or i just started that on instagram instagram does that now too okay so and so you can it'll warn you it'll be like you've been on for 10 minutes right that's when i turn it off now so the podcast you can you can do have it turn off at the end of the podcast or turn off in 10 minutes or 20 minutes i don't want people to turn our this one on all day really interesting before i knew that was a feature my sons this is the only reason you have kids is so they can show you how to work the future my sons showed me this because i had been listening trying to get to sleep listening to this tim keller sermon and i fell asleep but i kept playing sermon after sermon after sermon and in my mind i was having a dream that tim keller was talking to me in my head and i couldn't stop him and i was going around people saying i can't stop tim keller this was my dream it's like a nightmare crazy all right i'm gonna check out the timer i didn't know you could do that yes but the hidden brain one so i listened to one called was it minimizing pain maximizing joy okay and it was really interesting and then i went to bible study last night and it really like the stories the the between like what they were talking about hidden brain which is not at all religious yes but then the story then what we were learning in the bible study it all sort of intersected at the right time and i was like this is so wild like right now and just teaching you to like really be present really be grateful really you know focus on gratitude and they they said something interesting on a hidden brain they said there's something called the gap what do they call it the gap something where you are aware of what you have but you want more you want something else and you can see the gap between what you have and what someone else might have and so you try to fill that gap you try to catch up make that gap close that gap in right and uh the way to to not do that the way to not cause your life yourself pain or to be more grateful or be more present in the moment is to really like focus on what you're grateful for like these the two guys the the host and the and the guest were saying they'll pretend like their wife died or that something's the last time like this might be the last time i ever mow the lawn like some day there will be a last time i'm gonna mow the lawn and when that happens i'll maybe i'll be in an old age home and i'll be you know thinking about the time i mow the lawn and there will be a last time so you know and then i'll think of that as the good old days and like they were talking about like these are the these are the good old days and um it was really interesting and then at bible study we were talking about um you know that same sort of thing like being present being great grateful and um the way you pray and that kind of thing and i was like it's so it all is so true like to maximize your joy just imagine this is the last time i might get to kiss this person goodbye or right you know talk to them on the phone or whatever it is well one of the ones on hidden brain i really enjoyed was um they had the author of a book uh on the book is called choke and it's it it came on the heels of simone biles at the olympics just not in the yips or yeah yeah and this author talked about this happened to her she was a college athlete and they were being scouted and she knew it and she just completely screwed up and didn't get you know the whatever she was looking for whether it was a scholarship or whatever and um she wrote a book about it about what makes you choke and a lot of it is just because one of the reasons i was interested is because i've been going and doing little parts in some movies and you know that's not my comfort zone because i've been on these long-running shows where i know the sound stage and i know the actors and i know the warcraft services and you're number one one of the cultures you know and you're so you can kind of relax right because you and people know you and if you flub it that's the idea you know and you usually don't flop because you're so relaxed and you kind of know what's expected of you well when you drop into a movie for a day or two and everybody else has formed a family you're not really part of that family and you know if you're just doing a couple scenes and you know like a lot of these movies are on a tight budget and a tight schedule so you don't want to be that person who comes in and screws the day up yeah you're the director right and you only get like a chance to make no you have this impression like i know your stuff because they're not going to spend a lot of time on you yeah you know and i just i mean some of these parts that were so small and i was like for weeks before i'm like why did i take this part i'm nervous yeah yeah you just can't sleep like it's hanging over your head like a cloud yeah for me anyway you know and because it's i'm just going to walk into a situation where i am not in control in any way shape or form but here's the thing i always think about that like um you know i used to always get nervous doing everything do everything i get nervous about am i gonna mess it up am i gonna trip am i gonna be okay am i gonna you know am i gonna make people mad am i gonna suck or you know what are people gonna say about me but there's only a few things that i don't feel that way about now and it's like things like uh you know presenting an award and an award show or going on a talk show or something like i feel like okay i've got that like i can answer any question you throw at me but um but if you don't feel that way about like the big things about like directing something producing something starring in something guest starring in something then i feel like you're dead right you know yeah that's so i try to remind myself that like i'm nervous i'm nervous why am i so nervous calm down but i'm like at the same time like it's okay it's okay if i'm nervous because that's a normal human reaction and i'm living the experience and i'm not dead to the world or what's what's happening success feels so much better yeah when you overcome that yes right and i think you know it is uh as as as badly as actors can come across to the rest of the world right you know right title sort of you know out of touch with the real world right we're kind of spoiled blah blah blah but i have so much sympathy because what we do is hard and i was i just did a very small part in a movie with brian cox who plays logan in succession such a wonderful i mean i've been a fan of his forever and when i saw that i would get to do a scene with him i was like okay i want to do this movie it's just a couple scenes right so okay let's let's do it and the first scene i'm just sitting across the desk from him talking playing a doctor this movie isn't out yet but um and and you would have thought i had tourette's the way i said my first line it was like i got out of my mouth and and i just i looked at him this is when the camera had turned around on me right and i i just looked at him i said i totally suck i hate doing this and he's like i said he said being an actor is so hard and nobody knows it oh yeah it's you know what it's called him to have said that to me and then right then i was fine but it's like a constant imposter syndrome yes right you always feel like you're an imposter you always feel like like no matter how much i direct and how much you know people hire me back and stuff i'm still like uh they just they don't realize that with that mistake they made and they don't realize what's going on but i hear that about you know i've heard that in a lot of interviews and stuff from a lot of big actors writers directors you know politicians everybody like you you kind of hear that you know there's a i mean we all have a lot of insecurities yeah that way and actors normal human things like i'm not an actor or anything big like that but i remember like i studied weather and i remember finishing the program and i even won an award like i'm a great weather forecaster but i feel like the biggest fraud because like i'm a stay-at-home mom um i do laundry oh come on i mean i do more a lot more than that but you know it's those moments where you're just like uh like pta it's hard to like you like run feel like i don't know like am i a scientist yeah i'm not a scientist right but yeah kind of a and that's normal human insecurity and i feel i think that actors and creative types in general and amanda you're one of them you're definitely uber creative um just have so much insecurity right i mean i feel like when you think of someone that's a diva or that's um you know i feel like it's always like some sort of an insecurity coming out and that's why we try to slip into other people's skins and try to play other people yes but i also think that very few people in their jobs have to come up with something and put it out there for the whole world to see judge and criticize to judge and criticize like it literally has a job well let's do it every day if the show's a hit it's because of you but if the show's a flop it's because of you right right you can't you know you also think like if you're a writer or if you're a producer and you've decided this is a great project worth all my time and energy and money and you and you push it out there and you you know there's of course you're going to doubt yourself and think like would anybody why would anybody else be interested in this maybe it's just me and maybe i'm wrong maybe i you know and i think i talk about in my book your second act i i open with sitting in this hotel room in oklahoma city and we're trying to find this location for this movie that we've finally got done and we're just about to take it out to sell it it's called unexpected with anna camp and joe mazzello and we were couldn't find our location and i'm sitting in this hotel room and i'm like i'm 62. i could be by my pool and i'm sitting in oklahoma city in this hotel driving out way out to the boonies looking for a farmhouse that would be suitable for this what am i doing like why and like why i don't have any business producing why would you know and the movie has turned out so beautifully um but when you're in the thick of it you're thinking we have we have no idea what we're doing and this could all just turn into dust and ash it's it's not like you're crunching numbers where it's like where you know the obvious equation right no it's not at all it's a very simple and it's hit or miss i mean look you and i both know we've had huge successes and huge failures yes things that you thought were going to be like oh yeah it's it's me and kelsey grammer yeah this is going to run forever gone gone in three episodes such a good show yeah it was that back to you um and you know who else was in that josh gad oh really yes uh ty burrell from modern family who played phil i mean that had that was one this amazing cast meant to go that sort the writer's strike happened and then when they came back it was like everything but look i don't even know how you would have had time for that you did you did everybody loves raymond that like pretty much what you had a year or two off and then yeah and then and then you had like six months off and went into carol's second act yeah something like that i did yeah i think back to you is between raymond and the middle okay in that tiny amount of time yeah right imagine if that had gone last season right then you wouldn't have had the middle right you know but then maybe the middle would have come later right 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go-to kind of like relax yeah what about a book that's been on your nightstand like a little too long that you didn't finish um it's it was called it was about the the pandemic of 19 whatever the 1912 yes or the night spanish 19 yeah yeah wow it's a very good book what's it called do you know the great flu the great flu epidemic something like that yeah uh what's your go-to podcast for long commutes well tim keller sermons that's always good and i do then do um audio books long term yes i can't get audible to work for me i just use books by the way i can't get that app oh i don't know it's not as easy as amazon right show you watch only to have something to talk about with other people it's just something like you that i don't really like about that or maybe that you turned on just because people were talking about it the reason i started watching breaking bad was that one halloween where everyone was dressing up as heisenberg and i'm like what is this why is everybody wearing a pork pie hat and so and and people i tr you know trusted or whose opinions i respected were all watching breaking bad and i had watched the pilot and i remember it's like it's uh brian in his underwear in a rv with some gal jumping out the window from having sex and the guy jumps out the way i mean it would just feel i just thought i can't start the week with these people this is too early and then of course i got so invested in it because we were behind like three seasons behind so i would be watching it and i would have to be on the middle at six a.m right to be in here and makeup it would be two in the morning and you're just and i would be like okay if i watch one more episode that'll be three a.m then i'll have three hours of sleep and then i can get at least 30 minutes of sleep at lunch time okay i'll just do one more [Laughter] you that's that's a true binge yeah yeah [ __ ] um all-time favorite movie on the waterfront okay marlon brando eva marie saint carl mullen i don't think i've seen that oh i know okay we'll have a movie night we have to have a movie yeah no i've never seen that one oh i've been meaning to great yeah on every level music writing acting all right that's on the list for sure beauty product you can't live without there's so many um i would say oxygenics which is like this oxygenating cream that i put on morning noon and night oh yeah i'm going to have to get me that because you have great skin um a show you didn't expect to like but ended up oh no i show you expected i expected to like but ended up disliking i'm like i can't even read right now a show i expected to like and ended up not liking um i yeah i usually stop right away if i don't like i never watch anything all the way like i watched that i hate a bad mouth especially because when friends work on them but there's that show ghosts right now that yeah a little while ago cbs it's supposed to be i think it is it looks funny i was like what a great idea some humans move into a house that's haunted how fun i thought it was it was wrong on every not even wrong not even like like like really basic jokes and like just under like overplayed acting and right i was just like i tried so hard to get through a few of them and i was like right it might be one of those that season two ends up being better and they probably find their groove but i was i gave up on it oh okay so i hate to say this i'm not a ted lasso fan oh i was wondering if there were any out there you're the first you know i want to know why oh i'm tried three times really nothing against the actors i don't think it's there's no jokes your husband's british i know he's also a huge soccer fan this seems so weird to me no okay i can unequivocally say it is not a funny show because i feel like i know comedy really a very funny person yeah so i'm i'm it's not funny i want to see it through your eyes you know people we highly respect you said oh dead lasso and we're like okay we have to try again because he doesn't like it either dave doesn't like it no like but here's the thing the office is super dark actually yes it is actually because you know he's pretty mean they're all they're all mean to each other yeah but the best funniest you like the self-deprecating stuff i think yes um what about a food you would take to a deserted island just one if you could have one okay does this count if i say breakfast burrito yeah sure because it has everything in it right it's got meat it's got cheese it's got a little yeah i mean i would say pizza and pizza has everything yeah too so breakfast burrito is a breakfast burrito if i was just talking about survival yeah if i was talking about just what i love it's something you can't live without like a well i can live without it because i do live without it but apple fritters oh like especially from um victor's bakery in l.a oh real bakery okay yeah yeah yeah yeah um what is one book that you have on your bucket list that you want to read well two both russian [Laughter] crime and punishment and brothers but really brothers karamazov which i have tried three times because apparently it was my mother's favorite book she died when i was 12. and you know i i feel like i will can i will connect with her better uh if i would read that book because she was so into it those russian names man it's like reading the old testament is it like is there an audiobook you can listen to instead that maybe it's hard for me to keep i have to i'm more i feel like game of thrones would be really difficult if you didn't know the names before you read the book like game of thrones when we first started watching we had to pull up one of those trees like family trees yeah and we had to keep pausing it and look down confusing yeah to see who was we haven't done that one either yet because it's you know what the violence in it is what it is it the sex in it was like that's only for the first two seasons but there is a lot of it and it's it's disturbing it's disturbing disturbing science yeah um movie you feel like you should have watched but haven't the movie i feel oh well i've never watched what's the james cameron one where they go to the planet titanic oh avatar avatar i've never seen that either never seen it i just have zero interest all right we gotta have some movie nights um workout or class you're obsessed with well you're obsessed with your trainer yes erin opria you've got to have her on here i hear she's very famous i've got a yeah she's uh she's no joke um and your most juicy guilty pleasure of anything well it might be just constant hgtv ah yeah yeah constant home renault shows the lottery winners house hunters international one of our favorites where people the people in europe get away with murder selling these run-down old places right and they've got all these americans they're going in this crumbling italian villa going i could see myself with a glass of wine out here every day like yeah but you don't have heat of running water but go ahead i love that so uh we always ask everyone what's what how many unread emails do you have in your inbox do you have your yeah how many unrest this is this is very telling of people is it like well you know amanda used to have two thousand what do you what do you want four thousand what are you at now so where how do you find where the unread ones just the red dot all inboxes oh she's actually got a very manageable number two thousand four hundred and ninety three that's not bad oh my gosh you guys i was like this is what i tell everybody you got to get a different email address like a hotmail or yahoo another address where all the shopping goes there that's what it is so i have 69 unread right now in my inbox one of our listeners yesterday tagged me on instagram on his it had over 250 thousand that's someone who didn't check their crap they need to check the crap i felt very like known and understood actually why do you have a ton of unread well i don't need more because melissa is trying to change except that all she did was check the uh red she had them all red doesn't mean that they were actually red she didn't like delete anything or unsubscribe or clear it out she just so every day this week i've been like amanda i'm doing the letter w today are you doing w like i wanted to go alphabetically well i also don't listen to voicemail i don't either it says it on my message i said i don't listen to voicemail very few i haven't answered so please text me you see the little red dots the little up the notifications drive me nuts so i have to do things to get them off i have to get them off my plate i just don't do notifications just turn off your notifications no but then i won't know how much people need me you have notifications turned off on my text messages at from 11 p.m until 7 00 am i do or all day long see here no that's on green text you should not be able to know if you text somebody you shouldn't be able to know whether they're she has it so i know well i think you're gonna let you don't know that's the thing that's a new thing i'll show you where they they say silence notifications i think it's supposed to let you know like when i text my kids so now i know that they're not going to get it because they're at school or what's the thing about that people can tell whether you've read it or not right yeah they read that i don't do that you can't do that you do that yeah i'm an extrovert but i need i need that space right yes i need you i need that space the silence notification things i'm like oh okay they're at work or they're at school or they're busy if you hit it again it let's it notifies you anyway which i really appreciate yes because i'm like i'm important also yeah yeah my kids have figured out that if they call twice it'll ring through so that's why i've gotten a few calls in here before all right um she's gonna ask you some of this real quick these are just and then we're gonna have you write down yourself you're gonna give us a secret because we're gonna do an episode at the end of the season where we open up secrets and you don't have to tell us who you are are you ready housewives or kardashians okay neither ever ever i also will never do dancing with the stars so stop asking oh wait real quick on that the middle i don't know if there's a second episode you guys sit down to watch in 2009 dance with the stars that was the season i was like i was like oh my gosh that's my season so we were kind of connecting that way pizza or tacos pizza softer firm mattress soft feature mountains beach i love that you have to choose wait really not mountains i love both but i'm probably beach uh coffee at home or starbucks coffee at home sweet or salty kettle corn both oh yeah we you are my people yes country or rock well if you listen to the eagles they are country and rock so you're a combo of everything okay dog or cat dog dog dog all right art or sports art there we go okay even though my dad was a sports writer and so was your husband on your first tv show that's so weird and so is ray yeah yeah that's very super bizarre i didn't realize that until i was reading on your wikipedia yeah so that your dad was a sports writer that's wild in the football hall of fame for being the top football writer of the country in 1980 yeah oh wow look at you and your family and all your no interest in it and he also told me never date a professional athlete and you went for an actor way to go yeah my acting teacher said the only worse profession than acting is being a poet so at least i didn't marry a poet all right this has been so fun will you leave us a secret so we can open it on our last name okay i'll have to think of it thank you patty thanks for being here the best this is good okay thank you guys for joining us for what women binge you can connect with all of us on your favorite social media platforms we have at what women binge amanda i'm at amanda wwb i'm at melissa joan heart and if you 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Length: 97min 49sec (5869 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 16 2022