DOUG: YOU ARE GOING TO DEFINITELY BE INSPIRED
TODAY ABOUT GOD TURNING IT AROUND. AND WE WANT YOU TO USE THAT NUMBER IF YOU NEED THAT KIND OF
PRAYER 1.800 329.0029. NOW, OUR GUEST IS A THIRD GENERATION PREACHERS KID. SO, ALL YOU PREACHERS
YOU ARE GOING TO BE INSPIRED JUST BY THAT ALONE, OKAY. BUT SHE RAN FROM THE CALLING OF GOD ON
HER LIFE. YET SHE ENDED UP MARRYING A PROPHETIC VOICE IN THE CHURCH AND IS NOW BEING USED IN
GOD'S HEALING MINISTRY. HER VERY PRESENCE HERE TODAY IS A WITNESS OF GOD'S HEALING POWER AND HIS
PURPOSE FOR BEING GREATER THAN WE COULD POSSIBLY EVER THINK. PLEASE WELCOME OUR FRIEND HEATHER
Z COME ON IN HEATHER. GOOD TO SEE YOU GIRL. HEATHER: GOOD TO SEE YOU. JONI: GOOD TO SEE YOU. BLESS YOU. HEATHER: THANK YOU. HELLO. JONI: WELL, OF COURSE YOU'RE MARRIED TO
JOSEPH Z WHO'S BEEN A BLESSING HERE ON DAYSTAR. AND I MET JOSEPH AND HEATHER
THROUGH YOU. YOU'VE KNOWN THEM FOR A WHILE. AND YOU BROUGHT SOME REALLY GOOD
GUESTS TO DAYSTAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOUG: THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN BLESSED
BEING IN THE KINGDOM FOR DECADES TO KNOW SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE IN THE KINGDOM. JONI: YOU DO KNOW SOME GREAT PEOPLE AND THANK
YOU FOR THAT. USUALLY, JOSEPH IS HERE AND WE'RE TALKING TO HIM. BUT TODAY WE GET TO TALK TO YOU
BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN INCREDIBLE STORY. AND I TOLD YOU I SAID WE'VE GOT TO TELL YOUR TESTIMONY. AND
YOU WOULD TOLD ME NOW HEATHER SHE CAN PREACH. DOUG: OH YEAH ABSOLUTELY. JONI: YOU SAID SHE'S A LITTLE FIRECRACKER. DOUG: SHE IS ABSOLUTELY.
JONI: WHEN SHE GET THERE. OKAY SO, LET'S, CAN WE JUST START AT THE BEGINNING. KIND OF
YOU'RE RISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME BUT THERE WAS A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED.
SO, LET'S GO BACK AND TELL THAT STORY. HEATHER: SO, I WAS A GYMNAST FROM 9 TILL
MY SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HONESTLY, I IT WAS AFTER GYMNASTICS PRACTICE. SO, MY
MUSCLES WERE STRESSED AND MY PARENTS ASKED ME TO TAKE A THEIR FRIENDS YOU KNOW CHURCH
FRIENDS KID TO THE TO THE PARK. AND SO, HONESTLY, WE WERE JUST THERE ON THE
BACK SWING I WAS LIKE PARALLEL BARS ON THE BACK SWING MY MUSCLES GAVE OUT
AND I LITERALLY LIKE SLINGSHOT FORWARD, HIT MY HEAD AND I HEARD IT SNAP AND EVERYTHING
WENT BLACK. AND SO, NEXT THING I KNOW I'M WALKING DOWN THE STREET HOLDING MY NECK. SO, I HAVE NO
IDEA HOW I GOT UP. THAT WAS THE LORD AND HIMSELF. JONI: SO, OF COURSE YOU PROBABLY
COULD DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT MOVES BEING IN GYMNASTICS THIS WAS JUST KIND
OF A FREAK THING THAT HAPPENED, RIGHT? HEATHER: OH YEAH, I WAS ONLY TWO INCHES OFF
THE GROUND JUST KIND OF SWINGING BACK AND FORTH LIKE KIDS DO YOU LIFT YOURSELF
WITH YOUR SHOULDERS AND SO IT WAS, I WASN'T DOING ANYTHING CRAZY. SO, I WALK IN
THE DOOR AND MY MOM LOOKS AT ME AND I SAID, I THINK I BROKE MY NECK. AND SHE'S
LIKE YEAH. I WAS IN SO MUCH SHOCK I ONE TEAR WAS ALL I COULD DO AND THEN THEY
RUSHED ME TO THE HOSPITAL AND WE GOT THERE. JONI: AND SO, WHAT DID THEY SAY
WHEN YOU GOT TO THE HOSPITAL? HEATHER: SO, THEY SAID HEATHER, WE'RE GOING
TO TAKE SOME PICTURES, A CAT SCAN. AND SO, AS THEY GOT ME IN THERE, UH WHEN YOU'RE
12 YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEY SAID HEATHER WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK, WE'RE
JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS OF YOU. WELL, WHEN THEY DID, I GOT SO, I FELT SLEEPY, MY
EYES BEGAN TO SHUT AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW I WAS LOOKING AT MYSELF ON THE TABLE. AND SO,
I WASN'T AFRAID, I WASN'T SCARED, THERE WAS YOU KNOW THERE'S NO FEAR BUT I WAS JUST KIND OF
VERY MATTER OF FACT OH THAT'S ME AND THEN I LEFT. JONIA: AND SO, I'VE INTERVIEWED SO
MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND THEY SAY EXACTLY WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING WHERE THEIR SPIRIT LEAVES BECAUSE THIS BODY IS JUST A SHELL.
AND SO, YOUR SPIRIT CAME OUT YOU SAW YOURSELF. BUT DID YOU REALIZE AT THE TIME
THAT YOU WERE DYING OR THAT YOU HAD DIED? HEATHER: NO, I HAD NO IDEA. IT WAS JUST,
IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S SO REAL. IT'S JUST VERY MATTER OF FACT AND I LEFT AND
WHEN I AS I LEFT THE NEXT DAY IT WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING IN BETWEEN PLACE WHERE I
DIDN'T KNOW THAT AS A KID BUT I DO NOW, THAT I WAS IN AN IN BETWEEN PLACE
WHERE I KNEW PEOPLE, I SAW PEOPLE, I KNEW WHO HAD PASSED. BUT ALSO, PEOPLE I COULD
SEE PEOPLE PRESENT AND THEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW I'M LOOKING OUTSIDE AND I SEE THESE BEAUTIFUL, I
DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT GRASS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. DOUG: EVERYONE SAYS THAT THE COLORS ARE AMAZING. JONI: THE COLOR GREEN IS NOT A
GREEN THAT WE HAVE ON THIS EARTH. DOUG: ILLUMINATING. HEATHER: IT JUST I WAS JUST ALL I
KNEW IS I WANTED TO BE OUT THERE I SAW GRASS AND BEYOND THAT I
SAW WHEAT AND THE ONLY THING. JONI: YOU SAW GRASS AND BEYOND THAT WHAT? DOUG: WHEAT. HEATHER: WHEAT, GOLD, A COLOR OF GOLD AGAIN. JONI: WERE YOU AMAZED AT WHAT YOU SAW? I MEAN WERE YOU THINKING I'VE NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE? HEATHER: BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
BECAUSE I WAS 12, 13. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO THINK THAT THIS IS
LIKE I JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE MOMENT DOUG: YOU WERE JUST EXPERIENCING
IT, YOU JUST EXPERIENCING IT. HEATHER: AND SO, IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL THAT
I JUST THOUGHT I JUST WANT TO BE OUT THERE, I JUST WANT TO SEE IT. AND AS I BEGAN
TO THINK THAT I WENT THROUGH THE WALL, CAUSE I WAS IN A PLACE OF LIKE MY HOME BUT
IT WASN'T MY HOME, BUT FELT LIKE MY HOME AND I WENT THROUGH THE WALL AND I WAS OUTSIDE
WITHIN THE GRASS AND SEEING THE WHEAT. AND IT WAS JUST MINDBOGGLING SOMETHING TO US IS SO
SIMPLE AS THAT AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW I WAS COMPELLED TO JUST LOOK UP AND I'VE ONLY HEARD
A COUPLE OF STORIES OF PEOPLE PASSING NOT VERY MANY ACTUALLY AND AS I WAS COMPELLED TO LOOK UP
I SAW THESE TWO HUGE HANDS FILL THE ENTIRE SKY, AND I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE TALK ABOUT I SAW
JESUS HE WAS THE HEIGHT OF ABOUT SIX FEET OF A MAN AND THIS THAT WAS NOT MY EXPERIENCE AT ALL.
AND SO, AS I'M LOOKING UP, I SAW THESE HUGE HANDS FILL THE ENTIRE SKY AND BEGAN TO COME DOWN AND
THERE WERE HANDS AS LIKE GALAXY MOVING HANDS SO I, WE KNOW THAT HE SPOKE AND FORMED. BUT FOR ME IT
WAS GOD THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE GOD THE FATHER AND AS THEY CAME TOGETHER AS SOON AS THEY CAME
TOGETHER, I WAS SITTING IN HIS HANDS AND THAT'S WHEN HE SPOKE, THAT’S WHEN I FIRST HEARD HIM AND
IT HIT ME RIGHT HERE IN THE ABDOMEN AREA AND IT TRULY WAS THAT SPIRIT-TO-SPIRIT HEART-TO-HEART
ENCOUNTER. AND HE JUST BEGAN TO, IT WAS THE SAME TIME THAT JOHN PAUL JACKSON SPOKE TO JOSEPH ABOUT
HIS WIFE, SO THE SAME TIME THAT'S GOING ON THAT SAME SUMMER I ALSO THE LORD IS SPEAKING TO ME
I HAD A SENSE OF FAMILY, A SENSE OF MY HUSBAND. JONI: SO, LET ME JUST EXPLAIN THAT SO JOHN PAUL
JACKSON IS A DEAR FRIEND OF OURS A PROPHETIC VOICE THAT WE LOVED, MANY OF YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO
HIM BEING HERE, THERE'S A PICTURE OF HIM. SO, HE'S SPEAKING PROPHETICALLY IN
A SERVICE TO WHAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR HUSBAND JOSEPH Z. AND SO, WHAT DID
HE, WHAT DID JOHN PAUL SAY TO JOSEPH? HEATHER: HE SAID YOU NEED TO KEEP YOURSELF, NOT
THAT HE HAD ANY ISSUES AT THE TIME BECAUSE HE WAS YOUNG AS WELL. HE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO NEED
TO KEEP YOURSELF PURE, THE LORD SAYS HE HAS A WIFE FOR YOU AND HE IS PROTECTING HER AT THE
MOMENT BUT YOU WILL ALSO BE A PROTECTION FOR HER, WHICH 12 NOT KNOWING SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS
GOING TO GO THROUGH IN MY LIFE AT THAT TIME, BUT HE SAID YOU WILL BE LIKE A PROTECTION FOR HER
BUT I HAVE AS DESIGNED ASSIGNMENT FOR YOU TO DO. JONI: BUT YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY COME ALONG TILL
WHEN? AFTER HOW MANY YEARS AFTER THAT WORD? HEATHER: SO, WE WERE WHAT 20, 21. DOUG: ABOUT A DECADE. NOW WHAT
DID THE LORD SAID? OTHER DID YOU DID HE SAY ANYTHING TO YOU THAT YOU REMEMBER? HEATHER: HE SAID I, OH I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO
CRY. HE SAID I DESIGNED YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR ASSIGNMENTS. I HAVE SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS THAT
I PLACED ON THE INSIDE OF YOU. AND HE SAID AND THAT'S WHEN I ALSO HAD A SENSE OF A HUSBAND THAT
I NEED YOU TO FULFILL, AND YES THERE ARE OTHERS THAT CAN DO IT. HE SAID BUT I'VE DESIGNED
YOU PURPOSED FOR THIS IN THE EARTH. AND SO, THEN AFTER HE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT HE JUST
SAID, HEATHER DON'T WORRY EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OKAY I HAVE YOU IN MY HANDS IT'S TIME
FOR YOU TO GO NOW. AND I JUST SAID LORD, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GO. AND HE'S SO SIMPLE
HE JUST REPEATED HIMSELF, HEATHER DON'T WORRY EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OKAY. I HAVE YOU
IN MY HANDS IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GO NOW. JONI: NOBODY EVER WANTS TO COME BACK. HEATHER: NO THAT'S ALWAYS. THAT'S WHAT
THEY ALL SAY IF THEY EVER EXPERIENCE THAT PRESENCE THEY NEVER WANT TO COME
BACK TO THIS EARTH. SO, THEN WERE YOU, DID YOU GO THROUGH LIKE A TUNNEL OR WERE YOU
INSTANTLY BACK IN YOUR BODY? WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? HEATHER: SO, THEN NEXT AFTER THAT, AFTER HE
SAID THAT MY EYES OPENED SO I'M THERE ON THE TABLE AGAIN. MY EYES OPEN AND WIND BEGAN TO
FILL MY LUNGS AND I WENT LIKE THIS AND C1 CONTROLS YOUR LUNGS AND YOUR BREATHING WHICH
WAY YOU'RE 12 YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. AND SO, I HAD BROKEN C1 COMPLETELY AND IT BEGAN TO FILL
MY LUNGS AND THERE WAS A SPECIALIST IN TOWN THAT WAS DOING A WHOLE CONFERENCE ON THAT AND HE
FORGOT HIS PAGER AT THAT SPECIFIC HOSPITAL IN MINNEAPOLIS AND SO, THEY SAID YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO BELIEVE IT. WE HAVE THIS LITTLE GIRL IN HERE. CAN YOU COME LOOK AT HER X-RAYS? AND
HE DID AND HE SAID, OH SHE ABSOLUTELY BROKE C1. HE SAID BUT IT'S INTERESTING IT'S BEEN
FUSED TOGETHER AND HE SAID AND A HAIR TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT SHE'D ABSOLUTELY BE DEAD.
AND SO, HE SAID SOFT COLLAR CAUSE THEY WERE THINK LOOKING AT DOING A HAL AND HE SAID JUST A
SOFT COLOR FOR 6 WEEKS AND SHE'LL BE JUST FINE. DOUG: PRAISE GOD. JONI: SO, THEY ACTUALLY SAW WHERE
THE BONE WAS SEPARATED TO START WITH BUT THEN WHEN GOD SENT YOU
BACK, HE FUSED IT BACK TOGETHER. HEATHER: YES ABSOLUTELY. JONI: SO, DID THEY ADMIT THAT THAT WAS A MIRACLE? HEATHER: THEY DID. THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE THEY
HAVE A BOOK OF MIRACLES OR THE EX UNEXPLAINED THAT THEY CAN'T AND BUT THEY'VE STILL PUT IT IN
THE BOOK FOR THAT, THAT IT'S THE MIRACULOUS. JONI: THAT'S AMAZING. YOU KNOW, I LOVE
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOD THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. I THINK ABOUT
A SONG I USED TO SING, HE SPOKE THE WORD AND ALL THE WORLDS CAME INTO ORDER THEN, I CAN
TOTALLY VISUALIZE THOSE HANDS COMING DOWN YOU KNOW AND GOD IS SUCH A GREAT GOD AND THAT'S
WHY IT'S SO MOVING FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT. DOUG: BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENED TO
YOU? I MEAN YOU DIDN'T GO HOME AND GO OH MY GOSH I WANT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. HEATHER: NO. DOUG: CAUSE YOU WERE RAISED IN
CHURCH, RIGHT? AND ALL THAT. HEATHER: HOW COULD YOU NOT AFTER THHAT? DOUG: YOU MET THE LIVING GOD BUT THEN HAPPENED
CAUSE LIKE YOU KNOW, LIFE HAPPENS TAKE US FORWARD. HEATHER: WELL, I MEAN IT'S LIKE THE
CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. THEY SAW THE SEA OPEN, THEY SAW THESE MIRACULOUS THINGS BUT EVEN
WHEN THEY WERE DELIVERED OUT OF A THING, THEY GET OUT THERE AND BE LIKE YOU KNOW WHY
GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKING US AND LEAVING US OUT. WE'D BE BETTER OFF TO GO BACK. AND SO, YOU
JUST THIS IS A BROKE FALLEN WORLD AND WE HAVE A NATURAL FLESH THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH ON
THE DAILY AND TEND TO IT. IT'S A ADAM SAID IT ADAM WAS TO TEND TO THE GARDEN WHICH WE ALSO
KNOW IS PROTECT FROM ALL THE OUTSIDE THINGS AND YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOUR HEART IN THOSE
MOMENTS AND I WAS TOO YOUNG AND LITTLE AND MORE. SO, I’VE SEEING ALL OF THE BOTH SIDES OF
MINISTRY CAN BE TOUGH. AND GET JADED AND SAY. JONI: SO, WHAT HAPPENED? TELL US THE
JOURNEY FROM 12 TO WHATEVER AGE IT WAS. DOUG: TO WHENEVER YOU ARRIVED. HEATHER: OH, TO WHERE I ARRIVED. WELL, I
ENDED UP YOU KNOW THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL I ACTUALLY HAD A VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE
THAT HAPPENED, AND I'LL JUST SUM IT UP WITH A WORD I'M HAPPY TO TALK MORE BUT IT WAS
LIKE MODERN-DAY TRAFFICKING THAT HAD HAPPENED. MY PARENTS WERE OFF MINISTERING AND IT WAS A
FRIEND AND SO, I HAD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO ME, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M GOING TO BE REBELLIOUS
AND GO OUT THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT. DOUG: THAT TRAUMA. HEATHER: VIOLATION THAT TRAUMA AND I WAS REALLY. JONI: CAN YOU SHARE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? HEATHER: OH ABSOLUTELY. SO, A FRIEND JUST SAID,
HEY LET'S GO HANG OUT. AND I LIKE OKAY GREAT LET'S GO SHOOT SOME POOL AND AS WE'RE SHOOTING POOL, I
WAS A VERY CONTROLLED PERSON VERY RESERVED LIKE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD, BE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD.
AND SO, ALL OF A SUDDEN AT THE POOL HALL, I FELT MYSELF KIND OF LET LOOSE AND MY BRAIN
THINKING I DON'T BEHAVE THIS WAY NEXT THING I KNOW I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING WHICH WITH
DRUGS THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T TAKE TO MY BODY CAUSE I'VE WOKEN UP IN SURGERIES WITH THE
DO KIDNEY FAILURE AND ALL THIS STUFF NO. JONI: SO, HAD SOMEBODY SLIPPED DRUGS? HEATHER: THEY SLIPPED ME DRUGS. JONI: IN YOUR DRINK OR SOMETHING? HEATHER: AND I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY
MEN CAME THROUGH MY HOUSE THAT NIGHT, CAUSE HE KNEW MY PARENTS WERE GONE. AND SO, SEVERAL AND I REMEMBER SEEING ANOTHER GIRL THAT
THEY HAD BROUGHT THERE AND SO THERE SEVERAL MEN. DOUG: MULTIPLE RAPES. HEATHER: YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW FOR HOW
LONG IT, I KNOW IT WAS THROUGH THE NIGHT. JONI: OH, MY GOODNESS HOW DID YOU
FIND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED? LIKE, DID YOU KNOW THE NEXT DAY? DID
SOMEBODY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED? HEATHER: SO, IT'S KIND OF LIKE MAJOR SURGERY YOU
DON'T THINK WITH ANESTHESIA TO HAVE THE THOUGHT, HOW DID I GET MYSELF DRESSED AND
FROM THIS POINT TO THE CAR TO HOME WHEN YOU'VE HAD MAJOR SURGERIES. IT
WAS LIKE THAT AND IT WAS AN UNLOCKING AND AN UNFOLDING AND I WOULD START
REMEMBERING AND START REMEMBERING. DOUG: WELL, YOU WERE IN AN ALTER STATE BECAUSE
OF THE DRUG SO, IT WOULD TAKE A WHILE FOR YOUR MEMORY TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER. AND
THERE'S THERE MAY BE A LOT OF LADIES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ABUSE RAPES
OR TRAUMA. AND IF YOU'VE KEPT THAT A SECRET, IT'S GOING TO HURT YOU AND I WANT YOU
TO JUST CALL THAT NUMBER 1.800.329.0029 AND LET SOMEONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SO
THAT CAN NOT BE A SECRET. WE'LL LET YOU CONTINUE BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE SOMEONE
PROBABLY NEEDS TO OPEN THAT SECRET UP. DOUG: THERE IS HELP HERE FOR SURE.
SO, IT TOOK TIME AND AN UNFOLDING IN BETWEEN JUST PRAYER AND JOSEPH AND
I JUST HE ALSO VERY MUCH HELPED. JONI: HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN
THIS HAPPENED TO YOU, HEATHER? HEATHER: I WAS PROBABLY 18. JONI: AND SO, WHEN DID
JOSEPH COME INTO THE PICTURE? HEATHER: 21. JONI: 21. SO YOU STILL HAD ALL OF
THAT PROBABLY HIDDEN, DIDN'T YOU? HEATHER: OH, VERY MUCH. JONI: SO, DID YOU EVER TELL YOUR
PARENTS? DID YOU EVER TELL ANYONE? HEATHER: NO, I JUST BECAUSE I. DOUG: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO A GIRL WHO HASN'T TOLD ANYONE? JUST LOOK IN THE CAMERA,
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT GIRL? HEATHER: I WOULD SAY TO YOU TO NOT WHAT IT'S
TRUE, DON'T HOLD THAT IN BUT FIND SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST AND YOU CAN GO TO AND BEGIN TO JUST
START THE PROCESS OF UNPACKING THAT, UNFOLDING THAT. YOU DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T IT'S, THE THING I GET
FRUSTRATED ABOUT IS THE LORD SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHY DIDN'T GOD INTERVENE? WHY DIDN'T THIS? WE'RE
IN A BROKE FALLEN WORLD, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. YOU WERE INVADED BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY THAT
WAY. YOU CAN TRULY BE HEALED AND WHOLE THROUGH THE POWER OF JESUS AND HEALING. AND I WAS DELIVERED OF
A THING NOT KNOWING THAT I WENT THROUGH A FORM OF JUST DELIVERANCE REALLY AND NOT EVEN TRYING
TO IT JUST BUT THERE'S HELP. CALL DAYSTAR. JONI: AND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE I MEAN
BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DEAL WITH AS A COUNSELOR, NUMBER ONE IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR
YOU TO TELL SOMEBODY. BUT NUMBER TWO I MEAN THERE WHAT IS THE CONNECTION
AS FAR AS SEXUAL SIN OR SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED TO SOMEONE IT WASN'T THEIR
FAULT AND JUST AND THE SPIRIT LIKE, WHAT WHY IS THAT SUCH A COMPLICATED THING?
AND WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH? DOUG: WELL TRAUMA RESETS YOU AND
YOU NO LONGER FEEL LIKE YOU CAN TRUST THAT YOU ARE SAFE OR THAT THE WORLD
IS SAFE OR THE PEOPLE ARE SAFE. AND SO, YOU START CHANGING THE WAY YOU LIVE AND THAT'S WHY
IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRUST BY SHARING YOUR STORY. AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE I MEAN I WAS SEXUALLY
ABUSED TOO. SO, THERE'S MEN OUT THERE YOU'VE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED AND MAYBE YOU NEED TO CALL
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A GIRL THING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERPETRATOR THING AND
THEY PERPETRATE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. AND SO, YOU NEED TO CALL AS WELL BUT THERE YOU CAN
GET COUNSELING THERE'S BOOKS THAT CAN HELP YOU THERE'S ALL THAT. BUT HERE'S WHAT I WANT
TO SAY THAT SIN OF THE OTHER PERSON DOES NOT DISQUALIFY YOU FROM GOD'S CALLING OR YOUR GIFTS
OKAY. I WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED WHEN I WAS A YOUNG TEEN PROBABLY 13 OR 14 AND IT DIDN'T DISQUALIFY
ME FROM BEING WHAT GOD HAS CREATED IN MY LIFE AS A CHRISTIAN PSYCHOLOGIST AND AUTHOR. DIDN'T
DISQUALIFY HEATHER FROM HEALING PEOPLE AND PRAYING FOR PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T DISQUALIFY YOU
EITHER, BUT DON'T KEEP IT IN SECRET. BECAUSE IF WE CONFESS WHAT'S INSIDE OF US THEN GOD CAN
HEAL IT AND WE BRING IT TO THE LIGHT AND THERE'S FREEDOM IN THAT. BUT I DO AGREE FIND A PASTOR, A
COUNSELOR, A SPIRITUALLY MATURE WOMAN IF YOU'RE A WOMAN OR A MAN AND SHARE THAT THERE SO YOU
FEEL SAFE AND CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN KEEP THAT. JONI: SO, WHEN WAS THE FIRST
TIME THAT YOU SHARED? WHAT HAD HAPPENED? YOU SHARE IT WITH JOSEPH?
YOUR FAMILY? YOU SHARED IT WITH JOSEPH? HEATHER: I DID. JONI: SO, WERE YOU ALL MARRIED
WHEN YOU SHARED IT? OR WAS IT? HEATHER: NO IT WAS IT WAS
BEFORE. I WAS, WHEN I MET HIM, HE WAS JUST LIKE DO YOU DO ANYTHING
WRONG? I'M NOT KIDDING AND BUT I JUST I. JONI: HE HAD KEPT HIMSELF PURE. HEATHER: VERY MUCH. JONI: GODLY MAN BUT HE WAS HE, GOD KNEW
HE WAS GOING TO BRING HIM INTO YOUR LIFE. HEATHER: HE BECAUSE HE WAS, HE WAS HE MADE GOD
HIS FATHER BECAUSE HE WAS THROWN OUT OF HIS HOUSE AT 13, 12, 13 FOR THE GOSPEL SAKE. SO, HE
WAS VERY TIGHT WITH THE LORD BUT FOR MYSELF WHEN WE MET I JUST BASICALLY THREW EVERYTHING OUT ON
THE TABLE I'M LIKE THIS IS ALL OF ME. AND I WAS ACTUALLY REALLY AFRAID CAUSE I THOUGHT HE'S
NOT GOING TO WANT ME. HE'S HE WANTED THE PRIM PERFECT JESUS LOVING NEVER THE YOU KNOW WHITE
SNOW, NEVER BEEN STAINED, NEVER HAD ANYTHING. JONI: LEAST THAT'S WHAT YOU THOUGHT
THAT'S WHAT THE ENEMY TOLD YOU SO. YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT I MIGHT COULD
REALLY FALL FOR HIM SO I'M JUST GOING TO LAY IT ALL OUT THERE BECAUSE
I DON'T WANT TO BE REJECTED LATER ON. HEATHER: AND I DID I SAID THIS IS ALL OF ME. JONI: AND WHAT DID HE SAY? HEATHER: HE ACTUALLY HAD TO THINK
ABOUT IT. HE NEEDED A MINUTE. JONI: BUT HE PROBABLY REMEMBERED WHAT
JOHN PAUL SAID TO HIM TOO. WICH WAS WHAT? HEATHER: ABOUT THE PROTECTION. YOU WILL BE A
PROTECTION FOR HER AND I I'M PROTECTING HER RIGHT NOW SHE'S IN SHE'S IN SOMETHING RIGHT
NOW AND HE SAID THAT SHE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING. BUT I'M PROTECTING HER BUT YOU
WILL ALSO BE A PROTECTOR FOR HER IN HER LIFE. JONI: SO, HOW DID, WHEN DID HE DECIDE AND PRAY
ABOUT IT AND COME BACK AND SAY OKAY LET'S DO THIS. HEATHER: IT WAS WELL, HE KNEW
THE MINUTE HE SAW ME. SO, HE ACTUALLY GOT A PROPHETIC WORD FOR FROM
MY FATHER NOT KNOWING IT WAS ME. AND AT THE SAME TIME I ASKED MY FATHER HOW THESE
MEETINGS WERE GOING. HE'S LIKE YOU SHOULD MEET THE PASTOR UP THERE AND I’M LIKE OKAY.
BUT IT WAS IT WAS LATER IN JUST GET STARTING TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND STARTING A
FRIENDSHIP AND HE WAS SO NON-THREATENING, BECAUSE I WENT FROM THAT MOMENT I DOWNWARD
SPIRALED TO PARTYING AND DRUGS AND ALL THE THINGS. DOUG: YOU ABANDONED YOURSELF. HEATHER: AND SO, MEETING HIM I WAS JUST
LIKE HE JUST I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS JUST SUCH A CONNECTION. IT WAS LIKE YOU'RE THE
PERSON BUT YOU ARE NOT ANYTHING OF WHAT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT AND I WASN'T EITHER
FOR HIM BUT THAT CONNECTION CAME JUST THROUGH DOING MEETINGS AND ACTUALLY PUTTING
MYSELF IN THE HANDS OF THE LORD AGAIN SAYING, BECAUSE HE INVITED ME TO A YOUTH CAMP SAYING
JUST YOU KNOW COME ON. HE I THINK HE WAS JUST PROBABLY THINKING HE FELT I WAS THINKING
IT FELT BAD FOR ME BUT AS I GOT UP THERE, I WAS JUST WATCHING EVERYTHING AND PEOPLE
WORSHIPING THE LORD I'M LIKE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARTYING IN THE CLUBS BY NEXT WEEK,
THEY'RE GOING TO FORGET ABOUT THIS. THAT WAS MY. DOUG: TAINTED. HEATHER: TAINTED VIEW. BUT THE THING THAT
I FOUND WITH HIM AND ALL THE THINGS I WELL I SAID TO THE LORD I'M LIKE EITHER YOU'RE
GOING TO SHOW YOURSELF REAL RIGHT NOW OR I'M OUT. I'M LIKE I NEED TO KNOW ARE
YOU REAL. I MEAN I KNEW YOU AS A KID, I SAW YOU BUT THAT FEELS SO DISTANT NOW. YOU'RE
EITHER REAL OR YOU'RE NOT REAL? I NEED TO KNOW. AND I SAID SO I NEED TO SEE YOU NOW OR I'M
COMPLETELY OUT. AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW THE POWER OF GOD HIT ME SO HARD I WAS IN THE BACK
THE ROOM BY MYSELF DURING THIS YOUTH CONFERENCE OF A CAMP THAT WAS GOING ON. AND HE I GOT SLAIN IN
THE, I GOT KNOCKED DOWN ON THE POWER OF GOD AND I COMPLETELY GOT UP CHANGED. BUT IT WAS AN IT WAS
A PROCESS AFTER THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE JUST. DOUG: BUT THIS WASN'T YOUR FIRST RODEO, I MEAN IT WASN'T ONLY RODEO WITH DEATH.
TALK ABOUT THE NEXT ONE OR TWO OF THOSE. JONI: THERE CAN'T BE MORE. WE JUST GOT
HER OUT OF THIS ONE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? DOUG: BUT IT'S A LONGER MOVIE FOR YOU. JONI: IT'S A LONGER MOVIE. HEATHER: IT WAS UNFOLDING WHAT THE
LORD HAD SAID WHEN I WAS A KID. AND SO, FROM THERE EVERYTHING FROM MY DAUGHTER
DYING IN THE WOMB FOR THREE DAYS SHE WAS. JONI: OKAY TELL THAT STORY. HEATHER: SO, SHE HAD STOPPED KICKING WE
WENT IN, THEY STARTED DOING THE ULTRASOUND. JONI: HOW FAR LONG WERE YOU? HEATHER: I HAD A BABY BUMP. I WAS I WAS
PROBABLY ABOUT A GOOD MAYBE FIVE NOT QUITE SIX MONTHS ALONG MAYBE SIX MONTHS. AND SO,
AS WE GET IN THERE JOSEPH JUST SAID I'M SURE YOU SEE ALL KINDS OF STUFF AND HE KINDLY
WAS TRYING TO TELL US WITHOUT TELLING US BECAUSE JOSEPH SAID YOU KNOW WHAT SOME HARD
THINGS AS HE'S SCANNING HE'S LIKE SOMETIMES THE CHILD'S DEAD AND I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE
THE AUTHORITY TO SAY ANYTHING. AND SO, HE WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO TELL US WELL, BY THE
END OF A REALLY LONG NIGHT THEY SENT ME HOME AND THEY SAID WE'LL HAVE YOUR PHYSICIAN CALL YOU FOR
YOUR NEXT APPOINTMENT TO COME IN FOR BASICALLY. JONI: SO, THERE WAS NO HEARTBEAT? HEATHER: REMOVALLY. YEAH NOTHING. JONI: AND THE BABY HAD STOPPED KICKING AND
THEY BASICALLY WERE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO WHAT? DOUG: SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MOM ALREADY, RIGHT? HEATHER: REMOVE.
DOUG: I'M GOING TO RESURRECT JUST TO SHOW OFF, CORRECT? I'M COMING INTO THIS
WORLD BUT I'M COMING BIG. HEATHER: AND SO, THEY JUST SAID WE'LL SEND YOU
HOME AND THERE WAS NO MOVEMENT AND WHEN WE GOT HOME JOSEPH SAID I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO PRAY,
I'M JUST GOING TO LAY HANDS ON YOUR STOMACH AND ALL IT WAS VERY SIMPLE. ALL HE SAID WAS IS
“BABY, LIVE. BABY YOU LIVE, LIFE.” AND WE DIDN'T FULLY KNOW IF SURE SHE WAS YOU KNOW COMPLETELY
GONE AT THAT POINT. I WOKE UP THE NEXT MORNING FLUTTERING IN MY STOMACH AND THEN A FOOT RUNS
ACROSS MY STOMACH AND SHE STARTS KICKING AGAIN. DOUG: PRAISE GOD. JONI: AND SO, WHEN YOU WENT IN WHAT DID THEY SAY? HEATHER: SO, MY OB DOCTOR WAS A BELIEVER
ABSOLUTE BELIEVER IN JESUS. AND SO, I DID GET THE LETTER LIKE A COUPLE OF DAYS
LATER BUT SHE SAID I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. SHE SAID YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING A PROCEDURE
RIGHT NOW AND SO BUT SHE'S YOU'RE SHE'S CLEARLY ALIVE AND WELL YOU KNOW THINGS ARE GOING ON HERE
WITH ACTIVITY BUT I DID RECEIVE THE LETTER OF YOU KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, IF YOU NEED GRIEF
COUNSELING, AND THEY GO THROUGH EXPLAINING. JONI: THINK WE HAVE PICTURE. DOUG: SHE LIVED A GREAT LIFE. JONI: I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF YOUR DAUGHTER. DOUG: RECENTLY MARRIED, RIGHT? JONI: WHO'S NOW 23 YEARS OLD.
IS THAT HER IN THE MIDDLE THERE? HEATHER: THAT'S HER IN THE MIDDLE. JONI: THAT'S HER ON THE RIGHT. HEATHER: ON THE RIGHT. JONI: AND THAT'S YOUR SON ON THE LEFT. HEATHER: THAT'S OUR SON ON THE LEFT. JONI: SO, SHE LIVED. HEATHER: SHE DID. JONI: AND SHE JUST GOT MARRIED. HEATHER: SHE JUST GOT MARRIED AND HE'S WONDERFUL. JONI: THAT'S SO AWESOME. DOUG: AND YOU HAD, YOUR STORY
KEEPS GOING. SO, TELL US ABOU. JONI: THE MOVES CONTINUING. DOUG: TELL US ABOUT YOUR SON. WE SAW A PICTURE
OF HIM TELL. WHAT WAS HIS MIRACLE PROCESS. HEATHER: SO, HE WAS DIAGNOSED
SEVERELY AUTISTIC, SEVERE. AND SO, HE JOSEPH WOULD TRAVEL A LOT AND BEING
A TIRED MOM I HAD TWO SICK KIDS. AND SO, WE GOT THEM IN AND THEY BASICALLY JUST SAID
WE REALLY NEED TO GET YOU CAUGHT UP HIM, CAUGHT UP IN HIS YOU KNOW REGIMEN. SO, I TRY
TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE AT BUT FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT I JUST
OUT OF TIRENESS SAID SURE OKAY AND HE HIT THEY HIT HIM IN HIS LEG BOTH LEGS AND ARMS AND
WITH GETTING HIM CAUGHT UP WITH HIS REGIMEN. JONI: WITH THE VACCINE. HEATHER: WITH THE VACCINE. JONI: THESE ARE CHILDHOOD VACCINE. WAS HE
COMPLETELY NORMAL UNTIL THAT. HE WAS COMPLETELY, I MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE
HEARD THIS STORY SO NOTHING NEW. I'VE GIVEN THE STORY AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT OKAY
SO, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE MMR ONE OF THOSE. HEATHER: ALL OF THEM. JONI: ALL OF THIS. SO, THEY HIT HIM.
SO, WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE VACCINES? HEATHER: HE WAS GONE. I THE NEXT MORNING. JONI: SO, YOU LOST EYE CONTACT? HEATHER: ALL OF IT. YEAH, I WOULD CALL HIM. JONI: HOW OLD WAS HE AT THAT POINT? HEATHER: THREE. JONI: THREE YEARS OLD. HEATHER: MAYBE TWO AND A HALF. TWO AND A HALF. JONI: SO, HE HAD BEEN COMPLETELY NORMAL, WALKING. HEATHER: I HAVE VIDEOS OF HIM
COMPLETELY NORMAL BEFORE AND AFTER. JONI: SO, AGAIN THAT'S A SENSITIVE SUBJECT FOR
SOME PEOPLE BUT I TALKED A LOT ABOUT VACCINE INJURIES WITH KIDS AND THE DENIAL FROM THE MEDICAL
WORLD THAT IT IS CAUSED BY VACCINATION. BUT I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE WON LAWSUITS AS A RESULT OF IT
SO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT IT. THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE, NOT YOU BUT PEOPLE
WATCHING, YOU WANT TO DO VACINES THAT'S FINE BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S I'VE DONE SHOWS ON ALL
OF THIS WITH VERY REPUTABLE DOCTORS. BUT SO, WHAT DID YOU SAY, I MEAN YOU HAD TO
BE DEVASTATED BUT THIS IS YOUR SON. HEATHER: WELL HINDSIGHT'S 2020 SO I DIDN'T REALLY
KNOW AND THEN IT JUST HE KIND OF CAME TO A LITTLE BIT BUT IT JUST AFTER A WHILE YOU KNOW WHEN
THEY'RE LITTLE AND THEY JUST KIND OF GESTURE AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY USING THEIR WORDS YET
YOU'RE A MOM AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WANT SO YOU JUST KIND OF GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AND JUST IT'S LIKE
WELL HE'S JUST PROBABLY REALLY NOT FEELING GOOD. JONI: AND WHEN YOU TELL THE DOCTORS
THAT THIS HAPPENED AFTER OR THEY GIVE YOU THE DIAGNOSIS THEY SAY OH THEY'RE
NOT THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. WELL, EVEN THOUGH EVERY PARENT WILL SAY RIGHT AFTER
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED LIKE DRAMATICALLY. HEATHHER: ABSOLUTELY. JONI: OKAY SO UM THIS IS GOING TO BE. DOUG: BUT FAST FORWARD HIS
STORY CAUSE HE'S A MIRACLE. HEATHER: HE'S AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE. JONI: OKAY SO, WHAT HAPPENED? BECAUSE
IT WAS A JOURNEY IT WASN'T OVERNIGHT. HEATHER: NO. SO, FINALLY FAST FORWARDING TO ABOUT
I DON'T KNOW THREE AND A HALF FOUR HE STILL WASN'T TALKING. AND SO, WE TOOK HIM IN SOMEONE SUGGESTED
TAKE HIM IN AND JUST GET HIM GET TESTED. AND SO, WE DID AND THEY SAID, OH NO HE'S SEVERELY,
HE'LL PROBABLY NEVER SPEAK, HE'LL JUST FLAP AND HE'LL MAYBE EAT ONLY THREE THINGS AND
HE'LL PROBABLY NEVER BE POTTY TRAINED. AND SO, JUST ALMOST VEGETABLE LIKE STATE. AND I MY YOU
KNOW; YOUR FIRST RESPONSE IS EVERYTHING. WHEN YOU GET BAD NEWS, AND I'VE JUST LEARNED THIS WITH
THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED BEYOND THIS WITH MY OWN PERSONAL LIFE, YOUR FIRST RESPONSE IS
EVERYTHING AND IT JUST CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE WORDS THAT'S NOT WHAT MY
BIBLE SAYS, THAT'S NOT WHAT JESUS PROVIDED. SO, I STARTED TO GO TO WORK ON IT IN THE NATURAL
AND IN PRAYER. AND SO, HE WENT TO SCHOOL FOR TWO YEARS FULL ROUND ROUND SEASON BEFORE HIS FIRST
KINDERGARTEN CLASS. AND SO, WE JUST WOULD WORK WITH HIM ON ALL EVERYTHING FROM DETOXING TO ALL
THE THINGS, AND I WOULD BEGIN TO LAY HANDS ON HIM AND LAY HANDS ON HIM THERE CAME A POINT WHERE
HE WAS ACTING UP AND HIS BEHAVIOR WASN'T GOOD, AND HE WAS HAVING NIGHTMARES, AND I'M LIKE WHAT
IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW? SO, THE ENEMY DOES NOT WANT YOUR KIDS TO SUCCEED THEY'S TRYING TO STEAL IN
EVERY WAY POSSIBLE BUT HAVING A SENSITIVE MOMENT THE HOLY SPIRIT ASKED ME TO ASK HIM WHAT HIS
FAVORITE CLASS WAS IN SCHOOL, NOW HE'S OLDER, HE'S PROBABLY IN SECOND GRADE, AND I JUST SAID, WHAT'S
YOUR WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE CLASS? AND HE'S LIKE, MEDITATION. AND I WAS LIKE EXC, WHAT? YOU KNOW AND
I WAS LIKE RAW YOU KNOW ON THE INSIDE LIKE EXCUSE ME CAUSE HE WAS AT A PUBLIC SCHOOL YOU KNOW, IT
SHOULD BE GYM, OR ART, OR SOMETHING. AND HE'S LIKE AND I SAID I'M SORRY WHAT EXCUSE ME, WHAT CLASS
IS THAT? HE'S LIKE, MEDITATION. AND I SAID OKAY YOU KNOW MOM'S COMING OUT. AND I SAID WHAT IS
IN THAT? AND HE'S LIKE WELL, IT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR PADS AND WE LAY DOWN AND IF SOMEBODY'S ANGRY
WE TALK ABOUT THE ANGRY OCTOPUS AND HOW THE SEA CHILD COMES TO US TO HELP CALM US DOWN. I WAS LIKE
OH I WAS LIKE PICKING UP THE PHONE PARENT TEACH YOUR CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS
GOING ON OVER THERE AT THAT SCHOOL. AND SO YEAH SO I HAD THERE IS A JOURNEY, I HAD TO WORK THROUGH
EVERYTHING FROM THE PUBLIC SYSTEM TO MY BELIEF AND FAITH IN GOD AND GOING NO HANG ON HEALING
AND WHOLENESS IS MEANT FOR MY SON NOT THIS. DOUG: HOW'S HE DOING TODAY? HEATHER: WONDERFUL. HE HAD 12 SPECIALISTS. HE
HAS NONE NOW. HE IS FULLY GROWN HE WORKS IN THE MINISTRY IF YOU SEE SOME OF OUR 3D GRAPHICS,
HE DOES ALL OF THAT. AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL. JONI: AND WHEN DID YOU SEE THE TURN LIKE WAS IT
A GRADUAL HEALING? IT WASN'T OVERNIGHT. YOU JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE STARTED SPEAKING, YOU DID
POTTY TRAIN HIM, HE DID GO TO SCHOOL. I MEAN BUT IT WAS JUST A STEP-BY-STEP THING WHERE GOD
WAS HEALING HIM, RIGHT? IT WASN'T INSTANTANEOUS. HEATHER: IT WAS NOT. SO, THAT'S JUST IT
LIKE WITH BREAKING MY NECK THAT'S A MIRACLE. JONI: THAT’S MIRACLE.
HEATHER: YOU HAVE, MIRACLES YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO THINK OR PROCESS OR GET IN THE
WEEDS ON IT. AS WE ARE HEALING IS. DOUG: PROCESS. SOMETIMES IT'S A PROCESS. HEATHER: IT IS A PROCESS WHERE YOU TRULY HAVE TO
GET IN A PLACE OF HANGING ON TO WHAT THE LORD WHAT THE WORD SAYS AND WHAT THE LORD HAS FOR YOU WHAT
HE'S PROVIDED FOR YOU. SICKNESS IS ILLEGAL AGAINST YOUR BODY IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER IN JESUS. AND WHERE
YOU HAVE TO HANG ON AND REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE UNTIL YOU BECOME SO FULLY PERSUADED IN YOUR HEART
OF WHAT BELONGS TO YOU THAT YOU OUTGROW A THING. JONI: SO, LET'S, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE
IN A MOMENT BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO TAKE A MOMENT HEATHER AND SPEAK TO PEOPLE TODAY THAT NEED
HEALING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BUT THERE IS A HEALING ANOINTING ON HER LIFE AND I THINK
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE ENEMY FOUGHT HER SO HARD LITERALLY FROM THE TIME SHE WAS 12 UP TO
THAT THAT EXPERIENCE WHAT SHE JOSEPH AND YOU KNOW HAVING HER BABY DIE IN HER WOMB, I MEAN WE'RE
JUST LIKE ANYBODY THAT'S EVER BEEN USED GREAT IN HEALING THEY HAVE THESE KIND OF STORIES YOU
CAN LOOK AT ORAL ROBERTS AND ANY THE OTHER. SO, THERE IS A HEALING ANOINTING HERE RIGHT NOW
FOR YOU AND I JUST WANT YOU TO JUST BE LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT AND WHATEVER HOLY SPIRIT IS
SHOWING YOU SPEAK TO THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. HEATHER: THANK YOU, JESUS. SO, RIGHT
NOW IN THE NAME OF JESUS, LORD, I THANK YOU BY YOUR BLOOD YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALL
THAT IS NEEDED IN HEALING AND WHOLENESS. LORD I SPEAK TO THOSE RIGHT NOW IN JESUS' NAME IF
YOU NEED HEALING IN THE MEMORIES OF YOUR MIND, IF YOU NEED HEALING IN YOUR HEART AND IN YOUR
EMOTIONS, I THANK YOU THAT THE BLOOD IS COVERED, IS COVERING YOU RIGHT NOW IS PROVIDED AND I SAY
FOR THOSE WHO NEED HEALING IN THEIR PHYSICAL BODY RIGHT NOW I SAY WHATEVER YOU HAVE GOING ON WHETHER
IT'S PAIN IN YOUR BODY, WHETHER IT'S A DISEASE AN AILMENT, WHETHER IT'S BEEN FOR FIVE MINUTES OR
FOR 5 TO 50 YEARS, IN THE NAME OF JESUS I SAY EVERY CELL IN YOUR BODY IS RESPONDING TO THE BLOOD
OF JESUS. EVERY CELL IN YOUR BODY IS RESPONDING TO THE HOLY GHOST RIGHT NOW AND RESPONDING TO WHAT
HE IS PROVIDED ON THE CROSS FOR YOU. HE RIGHT NOW YOUR BODY IS DOING AND WORKING RIGHT NOW AS
THE BLOOD IS PROVIDED ON YOUR BEHALF AND I SAY ANYTHING ELSE IS ILLEGAL. ANYTHING ELSE IT HAS
TO LEAVE YOUR BODY NOW, IT HAS TO GO RIGHT NOW, IT HAS NO AUTHORITY. SO, WE COME INTO AN AGREEMENT
TOGETHER RIGHT NOW FOR HEALING AND WHOLENESS JUST BEGIN TO LAY HANDS ON YOURSELF AND BEGIN TO SPEAK
LIFE, I SAY LIFE TO YOUR BODY, LIFE TO YOUR FLESH, LIFE IN THE NAME OF JESUS OVER YOUR MEN
AND HEALING RIGHT NOW. AND I RELEASE PEACE, I RELEASE THE PEACE OF JESUS, NOTHING BROKEN AND
NOTHING LACKING. I RELEASE PEACE OVER YOUR MIND, PEACE OVER YOUR HEART, BUT I RELEASE PEACE INTO
YOUR PHYSICAL BODY. AND I SAY THANK YOU JESUS, JESUS, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU PAID IT ALL. THANK
YOU, JESUS, THAT THIS IS PAID IN FULL THAT YOUR BLOOD IS COVERING EVERYTHING, IT'S COVERING YOU
YOUR SITUATION. HE IS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. HE IS IN YOUR HOUSE, IN YOUR PLACE AND IN YOUR FAMILY
IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME. AMEN. THANK YOU, LORD. DOUG: AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH HEATHER.
AND IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO PRAY WITH YOU, WE WANT TO DO THAT 1.800.329.0029. BUT THE
BIGGEST HEALING YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE IS HAVING JESUS BECOME YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
AND IF YOU'VE WALKED AWAY MAYBE YOU'RE A PK, MAYBE YOU JUST GREW UP IN A HOME, MAYBE
YOU'VE NEVER MET JESUS, BUT YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO COME HOME. SOMETHING'S BEEN HITTING
YOUR HEART WHILE WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND ALL YOU NEED TO DO IT'S REAL SIMPLE, JUST PRAY THIS
PRAYER, SAY JESUS, FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS. I WANT YOU TO BE LORD. I WANT ALL OF YOUR SPIRIT IN
JESUS NAME. AMEN. AND IF THAT'S YOU TODAY WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS WE WANT TO GIVE TO YOU
BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE US A CALL OR SEND US AN EMAIL. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE “BOOK OF JOHN,”
NO ORDINARY BOOK OF JOHN. IN THIS IS A QR CODE FOR EVERY CHAPTER SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND
WHAT YOU'RE READING. AND ALSO, WE HAVE THE BOOK WHAT “NOW WHAT” SO THAT YOU CAN WALK OUT YOUR
FAITH. AND YOU NEED TO GIVE US A CALL OR SEND US AN EMAIL. HEATHER ALL THESE PRAYERS FROM ALL
OVER THE WORLD CAME IN WOULD YOU PRAY OVER THESE? HEATHER: BE HAPPY TO. I THANK YOU JESUS.
RIGHT NOW LORD, WE JUST SEND YOUR WORD, I THANK YOU FATHER THAT YOUR COVENANT
IS WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF AND WE JUST RELEASE THE POWER OF JESUS OVER
THEM RIGHT NOW TO HEAL IN WHOLE.
