"WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE": David Icke ~ Linda M. Howe ~ Jordan Maxwell ~John Lear [Age Of Truth TV]

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hello and welcome to this edition of h of truth TV i'm lucas alexander in budapest hungary it's the 9th of January 2019 and we want to wish everyone of you a very happy new year and many of our previous shows I had the privilege of interviewing some of the most prominent speakers within the alternative field of truth research about their knowledge opinion philosophies and research into one of the most specific and important areas of life death what happens to us human beings when we die and this show we will feature some of our most memorable highlights [Music] what happens to us when we die yeah that's a good question no doubt about it and I have to honestly say that I don't know but I am tending to think that there is something to reincarnation I agree with the Asian religions of reincarnation because again the energy cannot die so you cannot die all your thoughts or your feelings your love your hate your jealousy whatever that is in the energy in the energy body it's my conclusion over many years that reincarnation is a trap it's not that it doesn't exist although I don't think it's quite the same as it's explained it's a bit more subtle maybe but I do think it's a trap the recycling of souls reincarnation is the machinery of this universe since hearing that and having had a lot of discussions with a lot of other people about this whole thing one of the growing consensus of investigators is whatever is the conflict whatever is a secret war whatever has been going on on this planet for 270 million years there are beings that are studying where the human soul goes at the moment of death because they cannot enter that dimension they cannot enter that dimension what I think it would be beneficial for us to remember all of these past lives and all these past experiences because it would affect how we relate to now because it's all about what you do with it it's all about what you do with this experience and you've got to have the opportunity to mess up so you do believe in reincarnation like past lives I do well you look at it really I mean I believe that there's a single consciousness I believe is only one of us here experiencing life from seven billion different perspectives so I could be you at any given time so there's your reincarnation who knows if time is cyclic or if it's linear or whatever how do we know there's only one of us there isn't just one of us here that comes back and experiences reality from seven billion different perspectives hy how do we know when you die you're met by whoever you believe in if you believe in God or believe in Jesus or if you're Muslim and believe in Allah or whoever you believe in meet you there and for instance now I will be met by the Great Pumpkin because I believe great function is gonna is gonna meet me there that's so anyway here is what people are calling the white light is not always the same white light it's not not all lights are the same not all light beings are the same and you can be deceived by one being looking like a light being when in reality it's a dark being so thanks to change form absolutely and it and and all I'm saying is that I I would be very careful with thinking that everyone is doing the same thing and that all these experiences are the same being of light came in front of me and it was so bright that I had to kneel and it looked like will I'm a Lutheran bye-bye you know birth so it looked like Jesus figure this light being looking like Jesus you know like Statue of Liberty it was so big and I couldn't look because it was so strong it said it's nothing you know great to be a doctor and I was a young doctor I was proud of it and then it showed my whole life what's going to happen and I couldn't understand of course and then I came back to the body and I wake up and then I start to say I have seen this oh yeah yeah you know you lost so much you want it's okay it's okay but if you saw Jesus I mean a lot of people who would see Jesus would think of it as like a revelation and a proof that he exists and it was a religious proof isn't it yeah how you felt at the time no I just felt the the the lights but if I had been a Muslim according to research in your death experiences I would have seen probably Muhammad if I had been a Buddhist I would have seen Buddha so it depends on your your cultural background how you experience when your other dimensions as a Christian Muslim Jew Buddhist Hindu yeah that's right and then you see those gods but it's less to place in that obvious to obvious oh I don't know I I didn't know what I was going to experience but in general you can say if you're atheist that comes from research too you just see the light a being of light and what does the being of light number one tell you it says what have you done with your life what have you done with your life and your life from your birth into this body to the moment that you're out because over whatever accident or what so everything you have said everything you have experienced just goes like a film like this you look at the millions and millions of people now who have had near-death experiences when their bodies as as died and that then been revived and they talk about what happened in that period in between first of all time disappears because time and weight and motion and all these things that we take for granted in this reality are only information decoded by the brain and the brain is is all operating in this band of frequencies of five senses once you leave what did what did he sneered death experiences say suddenly there was this massive expansion of consciousness I could see past present and future in the same now there were I could I could I was aware of multiple realities in the same now why because the state of awareness that is the true eternal I no form no body just awareness has been released from the bodies focused of attention it's like being released from the computer then that awareness depending on its vibrational state which comes from its perceptual state - are absolutely connected then goes and explores another dimension of reality outside of this body what I mention is that what reality is that what happens when the soul leave let's say this room it's all to do with frequency this is why Albert Einstein said all you've got to do is get the frequency you want and then you'll get what that frequency represents so you can decide well yeah really comes from your perception I mean I go into this in the talks and and in the books and the books in detail are going to in the toss it's really important if you are in a state of depression or a state of anger or state of hatred these things are represented by frequencies if you're in a state of joy and an empathy and a love in its various forms then you are in a high frequency because your emotional mental perceptual state dictates your frequency and your frequency did dictate so now expanded it is in the nature of the freedom see dictates what you connect with so if you if you say I a self identify with being this what I call point of attention with an infinite awareness that you are infinite awareness all it is has been and ever can be all possibility having an experience then that perceptual state will connect you with the greater awareness the scientists call the quantum field of possibility and probability in a much more expanded way so you have then therefore the potential to manifest decode out of that potential and possibility enormous Lee greater and steer your own by the direction you want to go yeah but what you'll do is you will be older therefore manifest possibilities in your life and means of creation in your life on a much more expanded way than someone who is in a perceptual state that says I'm little me I've got no power I have to look up to them because they know what they're doing and I don't that is a very narrow very low-frequency perceptual state so you will interact with this field of possibility and probability in that frequency band that is represented by your limited state of perception and limited state of self-identity thus what you will create is it is another self-fulfilling prophecy just like the expanded state of awareness and that self-fulfilling prophecy will be little me perception becomes little me life little me I have no power experience a physicist who worked at area 51 for a long time can describe the elevator systems that are made so nobody can get down into the lower levels unless they have codes and keys that's how they secure area 51 and he told me he said if you put your hands together and and then just bring them up a little that space in between your palms of your hands that's our universe of matter right on the edge of your skin is the first closest dimension and we call it the astral but he said it is the closest dimension and in that dimension there's a lot of entropy is that the fourth dimension the key word is entropy if you have a dimension surrounding the universe and we're in a universe entropy is the winding down of energy to death only in a universe or a dimension dominated by entropy would you have death war dark and he said beyond that closest dimension he knew about 15 he said think of a Russian doll they're nested in each other he said it's my understanding that the problem in this universe that may have been made specifically to be a trainer of souls so that they would always be juxtaposed to a dimension that had entropy and dark penetrating frequencies always trying to get into this universe what is the fight back what neutralizes them is love is light and life so what do you mean by no death is that that the physical body as we know dies yeah of course what's left it's your energy I have done research even with myself when I learned about it in in 70s I was in America and and heard that you know there's a technology that you can get out of your body so I concentrated one night I was in chief medical officer of Lapland at the Arctic Circle in Finland and one night I just concentrated I want to get out and all of a sudden I started getting like radio waves going through my body from toes to my head and I studied you know sort of shaking so and all of a sudden in a second I was out and I was floating it was out of body out of body I was floating towards the ceiling and what surprised me was because I was at 8 p.m. I was naked and I was having my knees up like my head was here and my knees were so in this astral body energy body my knees were up - I was sort of like hey wait a minute I mean - and then I started looking down because it's not often you have experiences like this so I saw that my physical body was very very slow in breathing and I've worked as an chief anesthetist once a long time ago so I can count second without a clock any time so I started counting and I thought hey it's only ten times a minute and and twenty times a minute is is normal so vital signs are going so I got a little bit worried and I descended from the ceiling and took the pulse of my physical body with my astral but his hand yeah I could feel it like I feel it here and it was 30 to a minute when you're relaxing it should be 60 and then I really got worried I thought oh I'm going to die I mean what's going to happen and then I said like men say at war they cry for their mother my mother was 800 kilometers away in Helsinki and I said mother helped me and all of a sudden in a second I was in Helsinki at her living room and she was sewing a long dress with flowers so were you next to her up looking forward I was not in the astral form of myself it was just like a point of consciousness mm-hmm above and and my niece was their five-year-old was babysitted I saw the drawing she was drawing a house and tree and flowers and whatever and I I heard them chatting but I couldn't hear there were words I didn't know what but I knew it was not important and then I thought where's my sister hey my niece is being babysitted and in a second when I thought where's my sister surroundings changed and I was at a cocktail party in Helsinki somewhere and then I looked around and I saw over here I knew and there was my sister flirting with a family friend and I thought where's her husband no place hmm I want to go home and immediately 800 kilometers back to Romania means like that switching from one balcony exactly like a breakfast at will and then I was floating like this no and Romagna me again and there I saw my body and I thought hey wait a minute what I want to go back I mean how do I do it and then I thought oh all the thoughts were in the astral body nothing was in in the physical nothing it was just like a dead corpse and I thought oh you know how do I get back I mean otherwise I'm going to die or what happens and if I throw up I to see that because I got seasick you know floating I thought even though you were on your aspirin yeah I got seasick in the astral body and I told her if I throw up so that I'm suffocating the body so I said oh please help me and just I was back in my own body in my own body physical body and I was one you know touching myself like ooh this was eerie and then I just fell asleep but next morning I called my father who took the phone in Helsinki I said what was my mother doing at 8 o clock p.m. oh I can't tell you I can tell you I said it's a long dress sewn by hand yeah and my father said it's a Christmas gift for you that's why I couldn't tell you and my niece was there so daddy said how do you know and I told him that I had astral travel for the first time in my life and he said don't ever tell anybody and of course I went to the Finnish press the phenomena that we call reincarnation is true there's no doubt about that but it's very tricky a very very powerful man that I knew who was a dear friend of mine okay and I'm talking about top of the line in this country right very powerful man he told me that he had died he said I'll tell you Jordan experience I had about five years ago this was back in the 90s he said I died I was on the operating table and I died and he said oh and when I died I felt myself come out of my body and I felt just fine and I could hear everybody I can see what they're doing I'm watching everything and everybody's running around like it's checking what the head cut off because my flatline that everybody's trying to save me I don't need to be saved I feel firing I'm just watching all you people running around and he's all of a sudden he told me all of us and I thought myself going backwards into a vortex and I had no control over it it was sucking me into abort and he said I went down a long tube I could see a light and as I was going there was all kinds of colors as I was spinning around in this tube this is what this old man told me and he said that when I came out there was an angel that met me when I came out of the the tube an angel met me and said turn around you go back and I supposed to be here turn around and go back and he said why and he said because one of us one of ours is down there and you have to go help him so turn around you got a job to do and he said I felt without any I didn't do it it was automatic I just got sucked back into the vortex and I went back down threw it back down still until I came back into the operating room and he says I came back as I started my body consciously I came back and I was looking around and I saw everybody running around and then when I felt myself go back into my body everybody's started running around because now my vital signs are coming back I'm coming back into my body that's very similar to what a lot of people have said yeah if they experienced and so he said so I'm telling you re did that mm-hmm and that I went through the tunnel and saw the angel and he told me to come back so he believes in that that is the end goal to go to the white light because he saw the the he saw the angel is it to be in that common wheel all the time we won't get out of the matrix yeah I understand if we can consciously go back again to the body or we can consciously go to somewhere else can we choose not to go into that if it is a constructive deception but you see I'm not in a position to answer that because I don't know I have gone out of my body and I have way too many friends around the world they have told me about their experience of going out their body and going through tubes saying their life very similarly and I've also talked to people who say don't go to the light because they're just going to read read help go back into the system again and so I thought and so I asked them well if I don't go into the light well where would I go when we pass away here were instantly taken to the lobby of heaven and it's events are described uh fantastic is when Steve Jobs died two years ago his own family was around him and he only had like a minute to live they knew that because of his heartbeat and the blood pressure and everything he was just about to expire about 15 seconds before he totally expired he went oh wow oh wow oh anybody was seeing was the lobby there for you go after you die a tunnel of light no it was it's a place it's a like the lobby and the white light they it's referred as to maybe and you see a life review pass before your honor with all everything that happened in your life they take you to meet many of the friends and associates you knew in your previous lives and it's really a joyful experience it's been about 45 minutes meeting and talking with everybody renewing old 45 minutes yeah and then you're taken into what they call wife review and they take you into this room where you're showing your life in 3-dimensional HDTV colors sound everything that happened in your life and they show you all the wonderful things you did and how you were so gracious to people and and the wonderful things you did for people so when everything must have been registered here everything's recorded because it's holographic because they know because they recorded they recorded yeah like a film so it is like it so we are in like in a film like the matrix yes so then they show you all the nasty little things you did things that you didn't know anybody knew and there it is three-dimensional color TV you performing these awful things whatever you did now app to see both side to the equation the good things you did in the bad thing somebody makes a decision and I don't know who that is whether you have to go down back to earth and live in other life learning how to live with integrity without envy hater greed and expressing your love to your family each and every day or if you pass the test and you get to stay there in heaven now if you stay there in heaven it's fantastic place you have everything you want it's really great but you can go further you can go up to the fifth dimension you can go up to sixth dimension whatever you want to do it's yours to do it's a conscious decision that you can make yourself no they make them as they make the decision or then go back to who are they well I'd like to know whether you go back to earth or whether you stay in the fourth dimension which is heaven and then you see where you've done wrong and were thought wrong and hey they're there that was not good and this was good and you sort of you're corrected in a way you want to make good and then you sometimes get the chance to will you be on the other side or will you come back to earth to your body and generally people don't want to come back to the body because this is not a very elevated planet there are a lot of people who are very very ignorant here and we're aggressive and we don't use our brain capacity we normally we don't use ninety percent of our brain capacity so most people experience they don't want to go back because it is harmonious it's beautiful surroundings and the other frequency where you are known as heaven I mean we can say it's heaven yeah but how about Hell there are experiences that have negative about 1% and the people who experience very much negativity they are within meeting people who are like them negative but they cook they can call it's hell if you want I mean there is no hell it's it's all in your mind of but when they come back they usually change they see that I don't want to go to another frequency which is so negative so your own thoughts your own expectations they decide how you experience the other dimensions you fiercely have belief systems which are driving your perception then you can be caught in this trap now what today what do they say in the Eastern religions with reincarnation you have to keep having experiences on earth to grow to a point and what they call what do they call it a basically a vibrational frequency point where you can leave and break break out of the reincarnation cycle right that's what they say now yeah you can break it out now this is my this is my question if you take the the mainstream science projection currently of the size of the universe then planet Earth by comparison is a billionth of a pinhead right right now that's not a lot so let's just let's just break this down mm-hmm you have to keep having lives on the equivalent of a billionth of a pinhead without within only one universe never mind all the other realities that exist beyond it in infinity and if and you have to keep reincarnating onto this a billionth of a pinhead to learn how to get out of this reality into another one excuse me and that's crazy man again what were we doing you would not want to return to this place would you or would you unless there was something you know a contribution you could make then they're not then yes but the point is that beyond this pinhead which is actually not a planet it's an information source a narrow band of frequency that's that's our reality a band of frequency and when you look at the night sky you're looking at a tiny tiny dot really of even this galaxy never mind the universe itself so I'd come back to it you keep having to reincarnate onto this billionth of a pinhead to evolve it's nonsense we run through this program at the end of the program we go back to the beginning we come in at a different entry point and we change the program each time it could be like that could that could be why - oh who happens all the time who knows maybe we just keep doing this until we get it right I don't know I don't know but I same kind of human experience the same kind of humanist movement or who knows who knows it anything's possible I don't know but it's a possibility deja vu is an interesting thing which makes you think that that's possible but we've got a we can't remember these past lives it really I mean to a degree we can I have little flashes where I remember things I have dreams there are any other things but it would affect the experience too much if you were to come here and know have all that information when you come here you it wouldn't be a normal playing for your operating on how would you learn how would you grow from that point but maybe time is not just linear the way we see it that there's like this beginning in December and that's how we always see time okay historically and the futures there and the retirement passes there well if you try to wrap your hand around the fact or the idea that the universe or life in general never had a starting point which means it's infinite now we have a hard time wrapping around heads around something that never ever started has just always been just that thought alone it's just really hard to wrap your head and never start started and never ends also yeah exactly and so you have this continuum and you know how can that be I can't something has to come into creation because you're still thinking about something coming integration but something's always been it's really hard to wrap your head around that and so the same thing in a bid for time you know we we are we are hard times thinking that okay going back in time how can that be possible in the future how could it be possible well it depends if you look at this 3d reality and say okay this is where we are now it could be a possibility that there's parallel realities which is going on in parallel and we're tapping into some of those things but the the now experience is the only thing that we can reference to and that's what we are at the moment however there's the situation we're talking from my own experience and I think a lot of other people is worried when you get a very clear image a very clear situation shown to you and then a year later two years later that exact thing happens this is a future event that came to you some people have those experiences yeah sure and then a lot of people out what the condition of really experiences - there's also kind of hard to explain but when it comes to when you have repeated experiments or experiences like this then you have to ask yourself - grant how could that be possible some people have said that they've seen something and then two years later or a long time after then then it makes noise and so that they cannot have an indication on that but in science they have this thing which where you have is what I explained a little bit in the in lecture were this nonlocality phenomenon where one part of a quantum part of something changes then instantly the other part is attached to it changing Oslo independent of space so that means that it could be superluminal and then if you go superluminal which means faster than light then you get what's called negative time and this is the stuff they're talking about in quantum physics which means if you go the opposite direction you will get future time and that doesn't account in the theories of Einstein there's the limitation of the speed of light but this goes beyond that and that's kind of something that violates that kind of idea I have an ultimate sort of I don't know what you want to call it instinctual faith in in the power of the soul and in the power of the light so I I don't think it matters how long it takes you to get from A to Z so to speak to return the source if you wish and to come again out of source how do we return to source and what is that well it's a it's simply we see it as a journey but you got to remember that humans see things in terms of in linear terms so this happens then this happens and it's all simultaneous most scientists even will have to admit at this point that time and space are illusions so everything has already happened yes in a sense I mean that it is constantly happening that is all simultaneous we just tend to parse it out so that we can sort of focus it's a matter of focus it's like weaving a huge rug but concentrating on just one thread at a time in order to follow it through it's that sort of thing distance means nothing when you're dealing with energies but there is no time and no space really it's only an hour in our physical exactly of things but one thing why this has kept so secret and why in the Western technical world we don't want generally people to understand because they're also timelines you can be also on a different timeline right now I'm here but I can send my energy to the future or to the past and what is worst the past can be changed now that is scary and of course if all people would start doing that it would be a chaos so are you telling me that the future that the past already the weather past happened but the future happened as well so so what is the present it's all the same it's all the same what we have to really find out is where to go consciously when we leave the body wherever it is you go you need to keep in mind that whoever is in charge of you going anywhere they're in charge not you but do you think that our consciousness can be controlled if you were a spirit in a physical body and that another spirit world was contacting you and telling you to go out and do these things it's not contacting your physical body it's contacting your spirit and your spirit is now being talked to by a higher spirit well when you die and your spirit leaves your body so it's no big deal they talk to your spirit all the time unless you're you're becoming conscious about it now what is happening yeah if it is a trap could that be what you have described as our comms yeah who are part of trapping this and please describe what is an Archon is that it's an Archon the same as a as a Demiurge or jinn or a demon or an angel what what is what are all those things the Gnostic writers from basically 2,000 years ago in Egypt who left their writings and they were found in in Egypt at a place called Nagasaki in 1945 they say that the the archons in their base form are simply an estate of energy and what I would call a state of awareness never physical but they can be ok what I think reincarnation is and again the Archon writings by the Gnostics support this is that it's not just at the the level we call physical five sense this world that the simulation operates but other levels as well so if you leave the body and you not in a an expanded state of consciousness then you can your perception will hold you in a low vibrational state which will stop you leaving other levels of this quote matrix and it's from those other levels that this reincarnation cycle comes and and the Gnostics wrote about this as well as many other people over the ages but if you leave the body in an expanded state in awareness of what you are I'll go back to what source you got where you can go is beyond the matrix and what lies there is infinity infinity of possibility see that this this world that we're living in is only one set of possibilities with an infinite possibility so so there there is a trap so when you look at it um if you can get people to believe and believe what is a belief system it's a perceived system your belief dictates your perception your perception dictates your frequency your frequency dictates where you can operate where you can't operate mm-hmm and therefore if you can get people to believe in a religion where you're going to be judged by a God well when you leave you're going to be expect to be judged by a god and that reality will manifest but if you believe in reincarnation then the same thing happens you you you're still in the trap it's it's the same trap in the Gnostic writings about the archons what we were just talking about that there is a trap and when you leave the body you only get out from the trap when you get beyond Saturn and putting it all together as I do in detail in the books those rings are broadcasting something the moons involved as well I'm sure which is why this enormous in Manama lies about the moon that no one can explain shouldn't be there it's far too big to be going around a planet this small but these rings are there almost you could consider them a broadcast transmitter they're broadcasting an information source and for me they're broadcasting are they're part of the broadcasting system that's broadcasting the information that we're decoding as the simulation and then then look at you know the these bloodlines they came out of Sumer Babylon Egypt and then they moved up into Europe these hybrid bloodlines and one of the places they stopped off at and created was Rome and the Roman Empire who was the biggest god of Rome Saturn and Saturnalia satyr Saturnalia that's our Christmas in Rome they had these this festival where they they had decorated trees they young holly and exchanged presence and add these this big debauchery festival and in the same run-up to the period that we that we call christmas and look at look at Santa what's that an anagram of Satan Santa and and so tell your children were in and then you look at Saturn Saturn Satan Saturn and then you fire today yes that that Saturn day of course the religious day of of Judaism you have Sunday the religious day of it's all be connected to the planets you look at the the Satanists that in the big satanic rituals one of their centers of worship focuses the worship is Saturn so this you put all this together plus a lot more and Saturn is a very very significant planet in this arrangement that we call reality and the moon again is very much part of that as well a lot of people talk about we're now entering the fifth dimension well at least we don't have the physical body we are in an astral body in an energy body that's for sure and then there your thoughts may direct you is everything that's where we don't have connection with another energy everybody who's on your level it's like if you're in school and we are all in school of life but if you're in high school you have contact with all your schoolmates so those people who are in that dimension of course they have contact they can communicate of course again they see each other just like you and me I mean it's it's another world it's just switching to another world it's like switching from CNN through to Sky channel and everything happens on Sky channel but we who are here and we don't have that that antenna or we can't put the you know press the button we say oh there's no sky channel of course it's there and people who say that oh there are no other dimensions what kind of proof do you have etcetera there's absolute proof but it is hidden from the general public because it changed everything thank you but it's too difficult for people to understand depends on your background if the Reagan document is correct and there are five if the DIA guy who talked to me is correct three competing geopolitical territorial experimenters on earth then one genetic experiment by the evens can become something completely different if one of their enemies or something somebody who they don't even know about comes to earth takes their experiment does their own interaction and pretty soon maybe all of the competing extraterrestrials become very pissed off at each other because they're trying each to do laboratory experiments on this planet and others keep messing up their genetic strains so maybe humans are a shock and I think there is something about us that is a shock to them all and that comes to that question what happens to the human soul at the moment of death because it's possible in the Gnostic literature and in the in the film philosophy of theosophy there is this consensus that in the Cremona and Homo Sapien Sapien is a soul that may be unique because of all of the genetic mixing and matching leading up to us but we have this problem if all of the extraterrestrial mixing and matching of genes on earth goes back 270 million or a billion it doesn't matter it's the issue of mixing and matching genes and the DI a guy defines the Earth history for 270 million years as the conflict of three competing extraterrestrial groups then what they did with evolving life including us it might explain why crow Manya and Homo sapiens sapiens is so violent why are we always in states of war why are we competing and always challenged by murder and violence why our et which is orchestrated by our governments right but if they're under the influence of competing it's the competition yes it's the competition do a triangle and you have three corners and that they have been competing with each other for millions of years and we're only forty five thousand years old but we do nothing but war is the violent nature of humans a key to why something made us and something else has been trying to change us how do we know your future lives aren't now aren't happening right now yeah we're not always at this point we just we can you know so it's just it's just a weird thing I mean when you start getting into these sorts of concepts you can go anywhere maybe time is linear maybe we just come back one up to the other and keep going forward maybe we don't come back at all I don't know but what I'm saying here is if the reason we can't remember these past experiences is because I think it would affect this too much so you see evils got to exist in the world you've got to have the opportunity for evil because if you don't have evil you don't have the opportunity not to choose that you know you've got to you've got to have the choice if you don't have the choice to go wrong how do you ever make the choice to go right so therefore where is the growth so you think that that evil isn't necessary evils necessary for growth really because otherwise we don't have the choice to grow unless we have the choice to go wrong I think this is why around about 3% of the world are born psychopathic to give us this wild card so to promote spiritual growth because without that if we were just sort of going through every day and was all perfect and we've grown up firm or happy and we're just making love and we're eating and sleeping and everything's just cool where do we grow where do we go from there what's the experience about maybe that's what people call well heaven or Nirvana or something like that well I believe heaven on Nirvana is simply a total awareness total awareness of what you are in total awareness of what you could be and the potential that we have you know and returning to source I guess so you so you think that evil is really necessarily I think either I think Abel's necessary for growth you I do I think it's necessary for us to be able to choose it's necessary for this growth to happen it's what we do with the information the problem is that we tend to go down this path where we just keep doing it we don't learn from it and we keep doing things that we know are gonna destroy us but we keep doing them anyway the Native Americans refer to this as kind of a white man pathogen they call with Tico it's a it's like a parasite a psychic parasite which causes people to always do the wrong thing even though they know it's bad for them they just keep doing it anyway the human experience is you know repeating itself all the time and so how can we grow and while why should we choose again and again and again and choose them you know choose the good instead of the evil why should we choose good because it feels it feels better it feels better than evil and we can repeating this you mean yeah yeah that's just a possibility that's just one thought and I'm not saying we are that was just an idea when we start getting into those sort of topics where we can go with them it could be that it's like that or it could be that it's a linear thing and human consciousness is simply growing or people would prefer that maybe it is I don't know I can't see what happens in the other realm so I don't know I just suggest that everything's a possibility so that comes from reincarnation I'm having the understanding that when you're asked me about reincarnation having the understanding that we're a single consciousness that are experienced that day when I had that moment will reincarnation could be any number of things it could be that we could be living all of these life simultaneously at the right at the same moment and then never know that so it's just an interesting bit until four hours on this and go in any directions if I die right here all I do is my energy comes out and usually it comes out from your from your head so called crown chakra or sometimes even out from your heart chakra and you go towards the light and there's light light light and you can look back and you can see that your body's there you can see your friends and relatives crying now she's gone she's dead and you're sort of like hey I'm fine there's nothing wrong with me and then you see the big light and these have been researched for thirty years I was consultant also in the beginning of 70s it is a fee for ions International Association for near-death studies in America so for 30 years they have had these experiences gathered from all kinds of civilizations from India from Finland from America whatever and all they say the same thing you go towards the light and the light after you come from the tunnel says what have you done with your life all the major religions of the world teach a reincarnation and it makes sense to be if you are a spirit in and living in a human body a physical body so the question I asked a long time ago what are we are we are human that's the home of a spirit living in it or were we a spirit to begin with who came into this world and took on a human body so what are you really are you a spirit or your physical body and so now I know I mean logic alone tells me that you're a physical body but I've heard lectures by scientists and doctors who explain what is what does the brain do the brain is not what you think it is if well if you put a table with 50 brains take it from 50 different people and you just put the brains on the table you're not gonna be able to tell anybody from anybody because all the brains like to say you don't even know the difference they're male and female they all look to say so it's all in the soul it's all in the spirit personality that's right personalities in the spirit world and the scientists I heard explaining this was a lady a scientist a very interesting she said the question was what does the brain actually do and she said we now know that the brain does only one thing only it it creates and allows for movement it controls the movement of the brain the movement of the hands all of your body functions where you go what you're doing the brain is controlling that but she said that she said but where does your creativity your spiritual self where does that come from your imagination and dreams at night where does that come from and she said we know positively it does not come from the brain it does not go brain is physical for the physical body but you and your spiritual self and who you are and what you think is funny and what you think is is evil or what you see or what you believe that's done in your brain your soul sort of progress is very intimate to who you are so there is a song yes this it's still an illusion of progress if you have even if it's all simultaneous again because we are going through this process in order to its kind of like at play in the fields of the Lord so to speak if you want to call it that put it in biblical terms it's God Godhead which is made up of everything it's just a word God force it's not a person source the force the creator I don't care what you call it but it's the idea that it is at play it is ever in evolving and re evolving itself and its facets of itself and we are facets of that so but if everything has happened already why do we need well how can we evolve how can we again it's it that's why I say it's reading understand it's it's it's more of a circle you know the circle is one of the most basic I don't know platonic solids I suppose that you call it in other words the circle and the spiral are two in my way of viewing the most basic and the most sort of containing the most information about this process you're questioning the corrals the Taurus is part of another sort of image that can be useful but what I'm saying is that it is constant that's why the Illuminati use the image of the snake eating its tail keep in mind that it we are ever becoming and becoming and becoming Nietzsche put it very well you know the idea of constant return so you're going in and you're coming out it's like breath your breath you know you're being born and you're dying you're coming in and going out and you're never really dying so that's not a soul trap like an orchestrated soul trap by these I think there's a sort of I think it's a fad right now I think there's an overemphasis on this idea of souls being trapped again by the white light etc etc I think this is again a program you want to believe in it go ahead you'll probably attract it to yourself you know what I'm saying but it doesn't it's not unique to each soul it's you know you can see beyond it you may already be be that don't you yeah but if we are aware of it in this lifetime then maybe when we die our consciousness will continue if that is how it is it's not it's not good from continuing anyway you can be aware of it and hope that it helps you on your journey but you may not you know you may be beyond that all I'm doing is telling you that it's not something you have to go through right yeah you can choose to do whatever the hell you want ultimately mm-hmm in other words we we are going there and we are already there it's all one it really is all one you know we do this for fun for experience for realization for you know for entertainment people say heaven if they would exponentially increase their their view of heaven by a thousand that wouldn't even approach how wonderful heaven is it's undescribable but people like staying there and you know that's what we earn if we learn how to live with integrity without any a degrade and express our love to our vibe that's the religious beliefs right around the world it's not it's a true belief it's not religion there is no God as such there's advisors that are watching us all the time 24/7 when we pray we're talking to it might be family it might be somebody else but we're really talking to people not God but it is people that are watching our whole life and help us go through life but still somebody is superior and making decisions for us whether we can stay there somebody some thing not God but no no I God the Bible is an allegorical piece of work nobody existed Marilyn Mary Magdalene did not exist Jesus did not exist Peter did not exist all that stuff as stories made up to teach us certain things about life and how we should do that there's not in a Christian organized way you're talking about but what about God isn't as a kind of a force it can be in force call it something else yeah call it whatever you want the source I don't know I don't like the word because when you pray you're not playing praying to someone or something or a source you're praying dear advisers around you and they answer each and every request that you pray for not always in the way that you want but they do answer it they hear you they want as in body focused five sense perception which is very very limited in our understanding of self and our understanding of reality the other choice of course if you want to accept that life doesn't end at the end of the the body cycle is to believe in a religion and some God sitting on a throne usually with a beard will judge you and this God is so loving there's hell and damnation if you don't do what he says in your brief threescore years and ten and all by the way all you need to know to know what God wants so will judge your right is between the two covers of this book whatever religious book it may be so these are the choices and you know you go crazy man crazy but the alternative which is that we are awareness a state of being aware and my awareness now is aware of you and aware of this room because my awareness is having its attention focus through this biological computer on this tiny band of frequency ludicrously narrow bead frequency we call visible light and therefore unless we can expand our awareness beyond the five senses which is what the pressure is not to do then basically life appears to be only what you perceive when you look through your eyes now if you think that according to mainstream science the electromagnetic spectrum is naught point naught naught five percent of what exists in the universe that's what they project and visible light which is the only frequency band that we can see is a tiny sliver of the Noor point nine or five percent I mean basically humans could see nothing the idea however is to persuade us that hey that's not the case that's why you don't see programs about it very rarely or newspaper articles about it very rarely but to focus our attention only in the five senses now that means first of all if we don't believe in religion and life off to death and being judged then we believe the lights go out or we don't know what happens and what does that create fear of death and fear of death gives you power away in so many ways like two doctors Oh doctor please keep me keep me here a bit longer give me a pill or something because I don't know I don't know what happens and stuff and then there's the religious always good God gonna judge me and all this stuff it's so this is fear of death and from that fear of death comes comes fear of so much else but when you come from this point of perception that what we are is this state of awareness having an experience a series of experiences through this body lens which focuses our attention in this band of frequency and all that happens at death is that vehicle ceases to function ceases to be that if you like computer decoder of this reality and that which has been observing through it leaves and that's what happens with death experiences but I think we also can limit ourselves because of our belief systems we believe is not possible then we make it not possible I think we have to open ourselves up to the possibility if you want to only we won't do something if you don't think you can become a mechanic and then it's not going to be as easy for you to learn to become a mechanic because you're working against yourself so it's all about what you believe and what you how you perceive things I think it's a lot about how you perceive things not so much what you're building about how you perceive things mm-hmm our perceptions what I really honestly think is the big truth in the big box it comes from Thomas Campbell a physicist who worked for the Army Intelligence in the 70s and worked with Robert Monroe on the creation of the hemi-sync technology for going out of body and in the last five or six years I've come to know his work and here is his bottom line as a physicist who has worked on all of these complicated matters this is an entropy reduction trainer for Soul universe projected from another dimension on purpose the souls that are in the various bodies in this universe are here for training there is exactly the metaphor of the yin and the yang with the black in the white and the white in the black on purpose and that those who can get out of this universe after a certain number of Recycling's because they have been able to resist and reduce the influence of the dark in the nearest dimension they then begin to go up other dimensions and that it is the evolution of the soul that is the projection of the divine field they created all matter worlds in order to put itself out and see how much of itself would choose to come back ultimately fear is all related to death and I don't have any fear of death death is the only part of life that is inevitable so there is no death no be death of the physical but mark consciousness will leave that even so death is the only part of life which is inevitable you reincarnate that is every time a child is born of course it has an energy and I've been doing hypnotic regressions with people a long time ago and they say usually that about third month of pregnancy they sort of growing the third month yeah usually but there was a finished lady who said that before I was born to this life I was watching as an energy when my future parents were having sex and that became that I was you know that was my body that was what was started and I went in and out must have been quite an experience huh you're telling me and then when you come to this world the the reverse happens as what happens in your death you go towards the light your birth kernel is also it was kind of a dark tunnel and you pop out you come through the light but reincarnation is IB it's also a part of our religious dogma like it like it's like in like in Buddhism you're right I don't know Hinduism of whatever many of these things and the New Age movement which has been around for the last 3040 years very strongly how do you feel about the New Age movement I don't know how you define it but I would say it's alternative view of looking at world looking at life being a male or a female in a body on this planet they also in the alternative movement they also use healing and of course when you know that we are an energy so of course your energy can influence an other energy who is close to you or even from remote I think that that you have to live with integrity every moment mm-hmm and I think that's the only way to live but that doesn't mean it can't be fun and it doesn't mean that it can't be continually creative so we should not live in fear of what is actually going on on this planet yeah I don't think so I I don't think it's it's you know it look it's natural when you're a vulnerable physical being to be to have fear in fact fear is you're stupidly crius if you're courageous if you have no fear you need to if you have intelligence you have fear because you understand that fire can burn for example so if you put yourself in those positions you may understand that you could be fearful in the moment but it's what courage is is about overcoming the fear and being beyond it and transforming yourself and transcending it and so that's what really matters the fear does not matter the fear is an illusion anyway and you will get the lot beyond it all beings do eventually the beauty of this system of an entropy reduction trainer is that the soul the part that none of us seem to be acknowledging in this crazy world now the soul is what it has been driving every life from the beginning the soul comes in with certain missions when people go against whatever it is that they have internal gut feelings when they have a sense that they should go this way instead of this way for those that take their hunches and their gut feelings and their dreams and that is the way they live they end up I believe at a point at the moment of death going to a completely different dimension than the person who fights going this direction who fights their dreams who fights their inner knowing because other humans tell them that's not what you're supposed to do and those are the ones I think who become alcoholic and drug and that they are in an angst they will keep coming back around until they become strong enough as a soul to resist those dark shadows so every things headed toward the same door of light thank you very much for watching H of truth TV we appreciate that very much you can support us by clicking on to our website WWE TV and hit the bells subscribe to our channel and like our videos your support is needed and very appreciated thank you and we'll see you again soon [Music] [Music] [Music]
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