What Could Have Been: The Amazing Spider-Man 3

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while Andrew Garfield's The Amazing Spider-Man 3 never happened the return of Garfield and no way home left many fans wishing Sony had completed its planned trilogy but it may surprise you to learn that Sony had much more ambitious plans than that and before The Amazing Spider-Man 2's failure Sony was planning a massive Spider-Man Cinematic Universe of their own to compete with Marvels so let's dive in and find out what that would have been like and what could have been the Amazing Spider-Man 3. the Marvel Cinematic Universe is one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of Cinema grossing tens of billions of dollars in elevating Comic Book Heroes into colossal Mega franchises but like anything successful it doesn't take long before your Rivals try to replicate that success for themselves that's why following the success of the MCU we saw several other Studios try to create cinematic universes of their own such as the Dark Universe featuring Universal Studios roster of classic movie Monsters the DC extended Universe the monster verse as well as several others Sony after realizing they own the rights to Spider-Man's Rich cast of characters and villains decided to get in on The Fad so for those of you who enjoyed the Amazing Spider-Man 2 and we're looking forward to its sequel you'd have to wait as the next film in the Spider-Man Cinematic Universe would have been the Sinister Six and leading this group of super villains would have been none other than Norman Osborne now I know what you're thinking Norman died of an incurable illness in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. well not exactly cut from the film was a remainder of this scene which originally was supposed to be a post-credits scene that would have seen the mysterious gentleman Gustav fears and are a top secret level at Oscorp and walk past several Chambers containing gear created for villains that fears would recruit in the following movie eventually fears would have arrived at a chamber containing the Frozen head of Norman Osborne before saying wake up old friend and while this scene was cut the container that would have held Norman's head can actually be seen earlier in the film when a nurse Wheels it into his room after he dies additionally in an earlier version of this post-credits scene one of the chambers had a suspended ball of black goo that moved around which would have been the Symbiote this was removed because Sony decided against including Venom in The Sinister Six in order to give him his own Standalone film Drew Goddard the filmmaker behind Cabin in the Woods was hired to write and direct the Sinister Six and his vision for the project was inspired by films like the dirty dozen and Reservoir Dogs where you root for the protagonists even though they're the villains it's a bunch of badass characters doing something you know it's like let's admit that we love watching that and while initial report suggested that the film wouldn't feature Spider-Man that turned out to not be the case as Goddard would go on to say it was a Spider-Man movie it was the giant epic Spider-Man movie of my dreams Goddard also expressed his dislike for how Marvel movies are interconnected and often serve as stepping stones to set up future films and characters in the MCU what dialect what conda by contrast he wanted his movie to be able to stand on its own saying my vision was a summer annual so you didn't have to worry about continuity it was just we take Peter put him on an adventure then we put him back in his life goddard's film which actually would have been a two-parter was apparently Bonkers as he wanted to feature The Savage land complete with dinosaurs and time travel portals however Godard was most excited about Sandman who he thought was going to steal the show and his number one choice to play him was Tom Hardy who'd eventually go on to play Venom Goddard wrote Flint Marco's character to be the anarchic Enthusiast of the team who has fun while celebrating being bad Goddard felt Tom embodied that anarchy and triumphant nihilism which we've seen him tap into before in roles like Bronson but Goddard wanted to crank the volume up here to 11. the end of the film would have seen Sandman storm through London as tall as a skyscraper like Godzilla following the Sinister Six would have been the sequel to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 which would have opened with Peter Still mourning the death of Gwen Stacy as the film would focus on his struggle to recover and move on and just like Spider-Man 3 Webb was eager to include Venom in his third Spider-Man film as well where the Symbiote likely would have attached to Spider-Man and Amplified his anger and guilt over Gwen's death I stopped pulling my punches I got rageful the film would end with Peter separating from the Symbiote where it would bond with Eddie Brock setting up venom for his own Standalone adventure to follow where he battled Carnage although there were also discussions about making Flash Thompson Venom instead inspired by the Agent Venom storyline and in a bizarre plot Point Peter would have got his hands on a serum that could bring people back from the dead part of the discussion was that possibly in three there was this idea at one point that Spider-Man would be able to take this formula and regenerate the people in his life that had died so there was this discussion about that Captain Stace would come back even bigger and episode three and I was like let's go Not only would Peter use this formula to bring Captain Stacy back to life but he would have brought Gwen back too the Symbiote was also explored as a plot device to enable this and in an extension of this idea Sony also discussed turning Gwen into Carnage which would have created a scenario where Peter was forced to kill her but perhaps is able to say goodbye this time giving him the closure he needs and allowing him to finally move on cut from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 were two key scenes with characters that would be saved for the sequel the first would have introduced Mary Jane played by Shailene Woodley on cutting MJ scenes from the film Webb would say it was very difficult to introduce someone as a competing love interest when so much is on the table with Peter and Gwen Mary Jane was in four scenes four scenes in the whole film and it didn't make sense they're introducing so many new characters it really didn't make sense to introduce such a vital character to the comic books it's interesting to wonder what MJ's role would have been an Amazing Spider-Man 3 considering Webb was planning to resurrect Gwen it's rumored that in the film Peter would have been encouraged to attend group counseling by Aunt May it's at these sessions where he would meet MJ before the two would Bond over their shared trauma but as the relationship develops Peter would have struggled to get closer and open himself up to her after what happened with Gwen it's reasonable to assume that once Peter brings Gwen back from the dead that would have put a halt to the progress of his budding relationship with Mary Jane however as the film concludes and Peter finds closure by bidding farewell to Gwen he would then take a step forward by asking MJ out signifying his Readiness to move on the other notable scene cut from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 featured the return of Peter's dad Richard Parker who would reveal to Peter I had to disappear to keep you safe keep listening listen to me I had to disappear to keep my mistakes from catching up with you I had to stay away from you to keep Osborne from hurting you you understand what I'm saying there was no other way to keep you safe assuming Webb would have brought Richard back in the third film and would have dealt with the repercussions of him reappearing while exploring his nefarious connections to Oscorp and Feud with Osborne who Webb originally wanted to bring back to life and feature as a main villain before plants change with Goddard Reviving him for the Sinister Six instead Felicity Jones who appeared briefly in Spider-Man 2 is Felicia Hardy and more prominently in deleted scenes would have seen a role expanded as well to set up own black cat Standalone film other films rounding out the Spider-Man Cinematic Universe included a Venom and Carnage film and according to rumors at the time an ant May spin-off film that would have been a cross between Agent Carter and Mad Men featuring May's youthful Adventures as a spy I know what you're thinking even Sally Field thought that idea was ridiculous Garfield was also eager to pass the torch to Miles Morales in the future so it's likely we would have eventually seen that character take over the franchise I just thought she was going to be black oh man I'm sorry I don't apologize It's gotta be a black Spider-Man Somewhere Out There however following the poor critical reception and underwhelming box office performance of Amazing Spider-Man 2. Sony began second guessing their plans as Juan Cap day at Sony argued that they needed to lay out a solid Five-Year Plan for the future for not only their own internal Clarity but also to demonstrate to fans that Spidey is in safe hands he called the Aunt May spin-off bizarre and suggested they create a dedicated spider division that runs as a studio within the studio so that they can properly plan out their Cinematic Universe he boldly proposed the following five films to follow the Amazing Spider-Man 2 and act as their cinematic universe's version of Marvel's phase one in a never-before-seen move the first film would have been a prequel to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 that would feature Craven the hunter as the villain everyone at Sony was a massive fan of Emma and Andrew's chemistry and felt that they had killed her character off way too soon not only that but exacts at Sony were frustrated that Amazing Spider-Man 2 took place after graduation when one of the major reasons for the the reboot was to be able to put Peter back in high school so that they could tell stories in that environment to differentiate it from the Ramey films so by doing a prequel Not only would they be able to rectify this but also Rectify killing Gwen off too soon as well as Norman Osborne could they be able to bring back instead of stupidly reanimating his head as they had planned in this version Norman is getting increasingly sicker so he hires a Russian Big Game Hunter named Craven to track Spider-Man down and bring him in as Norman believes that in Peter's blood is the key to cure his disease Craven ultimately captures Spider-Man and supplies Norman with vials of his blood Norman in an attempt to synthesize a cure for his illness ends up transforming into the Green Goblin the end of the film would see Spidey and Goblin Battle it out with Goblin losing and barely escaping with his life which leads us to the frail state in which we encounter Norman in Amazing Spider-Man 2. Juan suggested following this film with goddard's Sinister 6 movie before doing a Spider-Man 2099 spin-off that would act as their captain an America type franchise but instead of a World War II period film it would be set in the future in the year 2099 and be a Miguel O'Hara origin story the end of the film would see Miguel being sent back in time to present-day New York City this film would be followed by a Venom film which would see Eddie Brock's origin story and eventual defeat by Spider-Man ending with Eddie being sent to Rikers and after credit scene would then set up Carnage but before we get to that film we get a black cat film that would see Felicia Hardy get her luck powers from Kingpin this film would end with an encounter with Spider-Man leading to a realization that she is not the bad person she appears to be finally all of these films would culminate in an Avengers type film that would see Spidey black cat Venom and Spidey 2099 team up to take down Carnage obviously none of this ended up coming to fruition as Sony realized that they had no idea what they were doing and turned to Marble for help you could not live with your own failure where did that bring you back to me and as they negotiated a deal to bring Spider-Man into the MCU it soon became apparent that Andrew Garfield wouldn't be going with and the reason for it may be pettier than you realize although it likely was the result of a number of different factors the first was Garfield's failure to show up to a planned press event in Rio offending top Sony brass your timing is terrible it started already then Sony CEO Kaz hirai had planned on mentioning Garfield in his speech and then dying alongside him for dinner Garfield arrived in Rio with a scruffy beard and claimed to be feeling under the weather and exhausted after coming off the plane an hour before the event Garfield pulled out throwing the plans into disarray understandably many Sony studio execs were embarrassed by Garfield's last minute absence while Sony CEO Kaz hirai felt personally slighted Garfield would go on to rub the studio the wrong way again by publicly blaming them for meddling with and ruining what he felt was a solid script for Amazing Spider-Man 2 saying I read the script that Alex kurtzman and Bob orsi wrote and generally loved it I think what happened was when you have something that works as a whole and then you start removing portions of it and saying no that doesn't work then the threat is broken and it's hard to go with the flow of the story certain people at the studio had problems with certain parts of it and ultimately the studio is the final say in those movies because they're the tentpoles so you have to answer to those people I signed up to sub the story and to serve this incredible character that I've been dressing at since I was three yeah and then there's it gets compromised and and and it breaks breaks your breaks my heart but I got I got heartbroken a little bit it's also debatable how big a fan Kevin feige was of Garfield's performance as he criticized it for being too emotional after viewing a rough cut of the second film saying Andrew's performance is all over the place a lot of crying and then a lot of mania hard to track him emotionally sometimes it also undermines his reaction to Gwen's death because he gets upset and emotional a lot it's also evident that Kevin wasn't a big fan of Webb's characterization of Peter Parker either or the storyline revolving around his father commenting not sure what Peter learns at Roosevelt is entirely correct we're distracted by the idea that Peter became Spider-Man because of his father's blood all the special backstory with his super scientist dad fights with the idea that Peter was a normal kid from Queens who becomes the greatest superhero in the world based on these comments I'd imagine when the time came to explore bringing Spider-Man into the MCU Kevin likely championed rebooting and recasting the characters so they could ditch the Richard Parker storyline to make Peter just a regular kid and find a younger actor to portray him to put him back in high school which is exactly what they ended up doing when Stanley and Steve ditko created him in the early 60s it was not as a standalone Hero by himself in Manhattan it was as this kid with these amazing Powers trying to compete and do his best in a world where Iron Man's in an ivory Tower and Forest from another planet and Steve Rogers was frozen in ice for 70 years and with the success of the mcu's version of Spider-Man Sony once again felt embolden to try their hand at creating their own Spider-Man Cinematic Universe and the results so far have been mixed while Venom was a monster hit at the box office its sequel did only half the business morbius fared even worse as the comically bad film became an internet meme and it a sign of how out of touch Sony XXR they announced the film would return to a thousand theaters weeks after its initial theatrical run thinking the film's explosion of attention online was because fans genuinely loved it not understanding that everyone was just making fun of it upon its re-release the film bombed and Sony quickly pulled it from theaters again also let's not forget about this Force post credit scene feature featuring morbius and vulture deciding to team up which featured a stand-in as Michael Keaton didn't even bother to show up to film it and I can't say I blame him next on Sony Slade is Craven the hunter featuring what looks like Rhino as the main villain and with Andrew Garfield's return to the role of Spider-Man combined with Sony's insistence on creating their own Cinematic Universe one can help but wonder if Sony is planning to bring Garfield back to take on all of these villains maybe there's hope for Drew goddard's Sinister Six script after all remember he wrote it to be a standalone adventure and continues to say that it could easily slot in anywhere Amy Pascal also recently said she's ready to make his film whenever he is thanks for watching everybody and don't forget to like And subscribe to bullets and Blockbusters for more great content
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Length: 15min 22sec (922 seconds)
Published: Sun Aug 13 2023
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