WFSTAR: Pt 2 1994 South Canyon Fire on Storm King Mountain

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Cooper: It was almost like a switch was flipped. Hipke: The cold front winds travel up the Colorado River drainage. As the canyon narrows, the winds are compressed and accelerated and flow up the west drainage. Petrilli: We could see further down at the bottom of the canyon, uh a spot fire taking off. The wind had just turned on that fire, ya know, within a matter of seconds. Uh whatever was down there, ya know, sparked off across the canyon and uh you could definitely see it. Wind was on it, it was pushing it, it was going to get big. There was no doubt about it. Ya know, we all said, ya know, hey we're out of here. Um I called Mackey on the radio as we were making our way back to the lunch spot. It's like hey this thing has spotted across the canyon and uh ya know, we wanted to double check it's like a ya know, what canyon? And I came back and said yeah, it spotted across the main canyon. And I turned around and looked at it one more time and it had progressed, I donít know, probably 50 yards in a matter of, ya know, 10-15 seconds. Um, it definitely the wind was on it. So I replied back to him yeah it spotted across the main canyon and it's rolling. Doehring: Heading up towards that ridge that's when we met Sonny Archeleta coming down to join us. And I could hear the radio traffic, ya know, I could hear Don say ya know we need to get out of here. And uh, we started going back up. Not too much of a sense of urgency, but somewhat, but then we turned around and looked and just started seeing this smoke was boiling up and could hear Don saying we gotta get out of here now now. Shepard: Kelso called and said there's a spot down below. I immediately said, John get out of there. Come back up here to the top. OK, affirmative. I called Scholz and I said get the crew up H1. Get em to the safety zone at H1. Scholz: He said to uh head to uh H1 the safety zone and we all lined out. We had the other the BLM folks here with us and we started marching up the ridge. Robertson: Um, I wasn't aware why we were doing that. I knew the wind was blowing but I didn't know uh, what exactly was happening. I did notice the column that was down in the west drainage. Just knew that I had to load up and go as ordered. Hipke: Kept hiking along and and the first jumper I ran into was Jim Thrash and he was right by Jerry Hagen and they were just finishing up their lunch. That's when Roger Roth walked up long-arming two five gallon cubies and at the same time we noticed uh our attention was brought to this column that was down the drainage. And the way the topography rolls around here, in fact, you can't even see the lunch spot right through here. And we couldn't see the base of the column, but you could sure see the column rising in here. And for us, to head back to the lunch spot, it would have been walking directly towards the column. Ya know, it's just natural to go out the way you came in. We didn't know what was past that lunch spot really at all. So, we walked we walked directly away from the danger and the rest of the Prineville followed behind us. Petrilli: I was at the tail end of our little uh jumper squad um making our way back to the lunch spot. Ran into Mackey, uh, ya know, he's directing us, ya know, go up the ridge go up the ridge, there's good black up there. Um, in later discussions with some of the jumpers in my group was uh ya know, in my mind I was going to be going up the ridge into the black, but in a couple of the other guys their mind was to go back down the fireline that we had just built so. Mackey was there to make sure that everybody going up the ridge uh to the good black, ya know, it was uh, ya know, that was good deal. He didn't have to stay there and and make sure ya know, we knew the right place to go and uh he didn't have to do that. And who knows, me being at the tail end, I had my idea, but what happens if some guys start bailing off down the line. What ya know, I thought about that since then, ya know. Guys are bailing down towards the fireline. My idea was to head up the ridge. Would I have followed them down the fireline? I could have. I don't know, I don't know. I'm glad I wasn't faced with that decision. Longanecker: Mackey had called me on the radio and asked me if I was OK. I think that's when he started going down to make sure that all of Prineville got out. Doehring: Boogied up the line and ran into uh the sawyer and the swamper at the tree. We stopped and said hey did you guys hear we're supposed to get out of here and by this time things were really boiling up and they hadn't heard it because they were running saw and swamper was throwing brush. And so we stood there for a few moments and uh at this point I'm like I'm ready to get out of here and uh myself and Sonny started to continue up the line and the swamper was with us. Sonny was ahead of me and I just remember more and more a sense of urgency of getting out of there and I felt like pushing Sonny. Erickson: Brad Hagh and I sit there and we're talking back and forth and uh talking about the oak brush. And he says oh yeah, this stuff is really volatile. Ya know, til then I didn't... I just thought it was brush. Green brush that wasn't burning. Hipke: As we started getting further along the line and were able to glimpse over the 12-foot tall brush and get some glances down into the canyon. we could see that the fire is now marching its way up towards us and every little glimpse I got, I couldn't believe how much further the fire advanced. It's just hard to comprehend that it was moving that fast. It's like moving through gasoline. It was just a wall of smoke and flame and I realized later that we were looking at the side of the column. It was just a massive column that to me just looked like a wall coming at us and that's when we really as soon as we saw that that's when we were moving moving as fast as we could. And the line was freshly dug, roots everywhere, stobs stuck cut off from the brush, they're just like punji sticks. Ya know, everybody took their turns, stumbling and falling and holding the rest of the line up and you just kinda get the accordion thing going on. We passed the stump and our group stacks up as we climb while crossing the spur ridge. Roth in front. Thrash second. I was third. Terry Hagan was forth with the rest of the Prineville Hotshots behind us. And through here that I noticed I took a glimpse back and noticed that Don Mackey had caught up with the group. We had just locked gazes and he was breathing really hard and this grimace of concern and it's a look I'll never forget. Driven by the wind and slope, fire now has enough energy to ignite the oak brush and races through the unburned and underburned canopy toward the main ridge. Gray: We start moving up the ridge and it's, it's an organized movement. We're all together. Thereís a sense of urgency, but we're not running for our lives so to speak. And we get up to there where the rocks are and it's quite obvious to the folks in the front of the group that we're not going to make it to the safety zone. That the fire is there. It has beat us there. Robertson: Get up to these rocks. Um Kim gets a, what I'm assuming is a radio call. I remember stepping up on a rock and all of a sudden Kim turned around and was facing me and passing me heading down the hill. I turn around and look down the hill and see everybody, the back of everybody's hardhats, retreating off the ridge. Both our crew and the IA crew that was with us. At this time I still have my ear plugs in. I'm not exactly sure what's going on other than uh seeing seeing the looks on folk's faces. Um, but uh at that point that's when fire starts coming up over the top of the ridge and I figure out very quickly what's happening. Gray: There's flames beginning to curl over that ridge. And there's still people running out of there. Ryerson: I remember running back down the ridgeline and the heat was so intense that ya know, I have my hand on my side of the face just to keep the heat off. Scholz: And at that point it it was chaos. Uh, it was loud, it was hot, uh. Folks were stumbling back down, uh. The group was breaking up. Gray: We're ordered to pull shelters so we do as we come down that ridge. Pull shelters we're running with them in our hands. Scholz: When I look back and I saw I saw Alex and it looked like he was a surfer coming out of a wave ya know, he was coming down the ridge with this big curl over him. Hipke: This is the uh draw at the bottom of the final 400 feet before the top and it's right here where Thrash stepped off to the side and we're just breathing really hard, almost out of breath. And he only had enough breath to go shelter, like that and uh, when he said that Roth stepped off to the other side to hear what he said and for me that was like uh, ya know, two slow cars pulling off on the road. They weren't quite going as fast as I wanted to go. I didn't know either Thrash and Roth and that probably saved me cuz if it had been a couple couple of NCSB jumpers I might have stopped. And investigators told me that the rates of spread they figured out that if I had been uh five seconds slower, than I might not have made it out. So if I had, ya know, stopped and said hey I don't think uh I'm not gonna shelter up, I'm gonna keep going uh that. Ya know, I didn't even have the breath to say that. So I just kept going. Erickson: And then a spot come across underneath ya and that's when I got on the radio and said hey you guys got a spot below you, you better get the hell out of there. And then that spot went to the size of a house just immediately, there was enough air on it to blow it up. Doehring: We got to the top of the ridge, myself and Sonny, and that's when uh we looked over again and saw what was going on. And that's when he asked me for my camera, asked if I had a camera and I was said yeah. So I pulled out my camera and gave it to him and he took a couple of shots. And uh gave me back the camera. I took a couple of shots with him, his his back of his head, his helmet in the foreground with flames in the back and then I took that camera and I stuck it down my shirt cuz I didn't wanna mess around with my PG bag and I said I, I'm getting out of here. It was sort of a, ya know, fight of flight and I was into the flight. And uh, I headed out of there. Hipke: I made it this far, I could hear Kevin Erickson and Brad Hagh yelling at us from the tree up there and I stopped for just a second to look back and I was looking right into Roger Roth's eyes. He's about 50 feet behind me uh with everybody coming up behind him. And 50 feet is starting to make a lot of a lot of time, it's getting steeper and steeper here. Erickson: About that time, Brad Hagh's like hey I think I'm gonna get out of here. I kept yelling and uh and then I thought OK hey, the entire hillside is just full, it was fire just fire everywhere. And I could see the crew right below me, but anyway I take up walking as hard as I can up through there and just take off running cuz you could hear it, ya know, it was taking off like a jet. Hipke: I just immediately started blasting up the hill. I don't remember seeing anybody after that. I was just... my world was just closing in to just was exactly around me. It gets so steep, you're almost reaching out and using your hands to get up the slope. Robertson: People were spread everywhere. They were spread all along this ridge. Different colored hard hats all over the place. I never had the thought of getting my shelter out. It took me long enough just to drop my saw. Ya know, my chainsaw had a name, it was it was my tool, and I cared for it a lot and I never thought about putting it down, but eventually um I saw a stack of Dolmars and a stack of chainsaws and I dropped mine there. Shepard: I run across our our personal gear bags and shoveled them over into this depression thinking OK, there in a little bit of a hole they'll be OK. Tyler and Browning, the helitack guys, came over and helped me do that. Hipke: Shepard leaves H2 and joins a fleeing main ridge group as they were forced into the east drainage by the heat and embers from the advancing flame front. Shepard: I look back and here is Tyler and Browning back up toward H2 right above the lip of east draw. And Blanco and I are both waving them this way, come on come on. And they saw us and they turned around and went up the ridge, disappeared into the into the oak. Erickson: Headed up to the top and I remember hitting the top getting burned pretty good and as I crested over the top, Brad Hagh is right in front of me and uh he runs right into a tree just wide open, full on, hits his head and it bounces him back and he gets back up and we slide down through a rock slide. Hipke: Along this final hundred feet to the top, the heat was getting unbearable. I don't remember carrying my Pulaski. I don't remember dropping it. Uh, but they thought my Pulaski hit about 86 feet from the top. That's when it must have been getting so hot that I must of started shielding my uh face and my ears. And it was dark red, little cinder whirls were zipping by me, little gusts. The only thing I'd ever thought I'd use my shelter for was to shield as the old style shelter. So I I kept hiking along and was getting the shelter out and ended up bumbling it and dropping it. And the heat was so bad, I don't remember exactly ,it's kinda a little fuzzy, but it's like I tripped or I was jumping to get away from the heat and it felt all the world to me as I was doing that like like a wave hit me. It's like being at the being at the beach and not paying attention ya know, standing with your back to the ocean and a wave comes and just knocks you down. And so I ended up on the ground as uh screaming like a little girl. Exhaling. And the investigator told me that the air had been that knocked me down had been super-heated. Uh that's what saved my lungs from getting fried. I got immediately got back up and my hardhat was off and got knocked off, my pack, scrapped it or melted off or part of the straps had slipped off. I was waddling up and I just punched my pack lose and I just ran over to the top.of the ridge. Robertson: The fire was coming over the ridge, over the top of us. As we made it off the lee side to protect ourselves from that, but we didn't really know where to go. Then that's when uh Louie yelled at me to take your ear plugs out and that's the first time that I got my ear plugs out from running my saw. Things become a little bit more apparent. The sound of the fire. The sound of of our Dolmars and the chainsaws blowing up as as the fire came over the ridge on 'em, that all that all became very real. Gray: After I bailed off here, go down there just a little ways I could hear my crew foreman, Bryan Scholz, and he's yelling what I think heís yelling my name. He's yelling Kiiiiiiiiiip! So I stopped like did I just really hear that. And he yells it again and yeah, I definitely heard it. So, I move back up the slope a little ways and I'm thinking to myself, I don't really wanna go up there. Man, did Scholz fall and brake his leg, I mean something, why is he hollering my name. Scholz: I ran into uh one of my folks that had stopped moving. Gray: I scribble up through a couple of trees and I can look up the slope just a little ways and I can see Bryan Scholz and he's actually yelling Kim. He's yelling Kim's name. It just sounded like Kip uh he's doing his best job to keep continuing to motivate her to move down. Scholz: So I had to get a little feisty with her and tap her on the hardhat a couple of times to get her going. Gray: As I'm standing down there looking at Bryan and Kim I see Eric Hipke um come out. He had come out that west flank line and uh, and he was just barreling down the slope there. His skin was burned off his hands and hanging down and uh he he literally was still smoking. It it just I just couldn't really fathom what I was seeing at that second. Hipke: And I was just taking these 10-foot bounding strides, tripping and falling, rolling, getting back up again, rolling down. Felt great not fighting gravity anymore. And just making a lot of distance, and no heat. Made it 200 feet down when I ran into Kevin Erickson and Brad Hagh. Erickson: We're kinda gathering our wits and uh we're just right over the crest at the hill and I'm like holy cow, those guys didn't make it. And uh, it was probably oh maybe a minute later we see you coming down and uh you don't look very good. And that's an understatement. The the the heat and the orange and the stuff that's coming over the top of us. Hipke: We're looking up at these hundred foot flame lengths just blasting over over the ridgetop waiting for somebody else to come over for just a bit and we're talking a bunch and we're like where's the rest, saying things like uh maybe they sheltered or took an indirect way. And then there are spot fires starting all around us. And so we moved down another couple hundred feet. Erickson: And I remember I did not want to go down into that next drainage at all. I did not want to go down in there. Hipke: Thank God Brad Hagh was with us because he had hiked up that that gully of the east drainage twice and so he knew it was a safe way out, but for us looking at it, we'd just seen how fast the fire raced up that the west drainage. Here we are in the east drainage and the wind blowing up that also. The columns leaning leaning over and cinders dropping all over and we I just thought we're just walking into a death trap. And can we even get out that way and Brad Hagh reassured us that is the only way out. Scholz: Circled around below the ridge here and ran into some of the BLM folks. Ran into Tom Shepard. And uh I was pretty adamant at that point uh it was time to go. And uh it was it was, um, a difficult decision to go down into the place that was very likely going to burn up in a few minutes. But there was really no other alternative. Ryerson: My folks were pretty scattered out and ya know, Laura Paulson was with me and I could see a couple of our folks down in front of us. So ya know, and then when I got the call from Butch saying go ahead and head down the east drainage then we started ya know, yelling that out. Robertson: Somehow through all of that uh trying to figure out how to get down this steep ground and dissected uh ridges down into the bottom, I became separated from everybody. And I remember crewmembers yelling at each other across the canyon. Scholz: Figure out where folks are. Figure out everybody going in the right direction. Who's at the bottom. Do they have a radio. Make contact. Ok are we good down there. Somebody's with a local, but, but for a few minutes there, it's disturbing when your folks are out there and you don't know where they're all at. Gray: I basically stayed with the group of guys that that I scrambled up across the east drainage and got up on the little bench with. As I came down further, one of them was still scrambling up that little scree slope right there. And uh two of them were already up there so I followed suit, because it was it was kinda an eerie feeling down in there in that steep little canyon. You just can't see anything so uh. I scurried up there as well and uh, once we were up there we were able to look down the canyon just a little bit and and put together that it was safe to proceed. Tom Shepard and what I believe was the incident commander, Blanco, came right down the bottom. Shepard: I looked up and my thought was oh geez, good. That's smart thinking. They're getting up. They can see around this corner uh down down canyon and uh, they can act as lookouts, and let us know if anything is coming up at us. Like it would do us any good anyway. Gray: I do remember Tom Shepard hollering, looking up at us and hollering, saying come on down this way and right out this drainage. Shepard: They moved on down uh along with the rest of the crew and I stumbled along the rear just, numb with grief. Overcome with the terrible sadness. It's like I just felt in my heart that I lost that part of my crew. Nine people. That were down of the, down on the west fireline. Hipke: On the lunch spot ridge, Longanecker hikes back to the lunch spot while the others are hiking up towards H1. Longanecker: Head back towards the lunch spot cuz to me that's the safest spot to be. There was pinyon and juniper trees that had burned out and there was basically nothing below them. Ya know, so I just kinda hung out in that area. Petrilli: Running up the ridge, there was PJ, rocks , brush, ya know, so it wasn't just a clear shot, it was definitely picking your way. Cooper: The eerie orange atmosphere and the roar of the fire. It's really almost a surrealistic experience to be that close to a large fire and be underneath the smoke column like that. Definitely the wind was pushing ash, pushing dust, uh, embers around. By then we're all panicking. By then I'm really freaking myself. I'm running up hill as fast as I can. I held on to all of my equipment. I think that's just a subconscious thing you do. Petrilli: You know what, I don't need this saw anymore. It's slowing me down. I give it a toss. Um, ya know and and I do remember still, ya know, as I tossed that saw off my shoulder, it's like oh, I just tossed my saw. Cooper: And people were trying to stay together, you know, loosely, but you get down to a point in your mind where you realize your life is in danger and you start to react about saving your life. It's not like you don't care about other people, but it gets to a decision point where instinct takes over and you wanna live. Petrilli: Keith Woods and Sonny Soto started, ya know, cramping up, ya know. Come on, come on, come on, we gotta go, we gotta go Cooper: And uh we got up to where we pretty much ran out of steam. We were totally exhausted, out of breath and uh, nowhere else to go. And it just happened to be the most bare, clean spot on the finger ridge. Petrilli: They're starting to gather up up there and Keith and Sonny are starting to fall behind. It's like come on you guys, you know, you know, just a little bit further. Cooper: Felliciono didn't even take two seconds. He instantly started scraping the spot for a shelter. I'm looking around at the density of the fuel. I looked at the Missoula jumpers and said, hey guys I think we need to get in our fire shelters. Petrilli: As I came upon the uh the group of uh jumpers they had already started to deploy their fire shelters. Cooper: And from about eight inches down, six inches down, every leaf, the dust, the soot. Anything lose was getting sucked into the fire like a giant vacuum cleaner. It made it more difficult to get into your shelter. You didn't just flop it open like a nice, lose blanket like the training video and crawl into the thing. It's stringing out from you like a flag in the wind and as you're trying to open this thing, I mean, it's just flapping crazy. Ya know, wildly in the wind and uh, like I said, one loose grip and you would have lost it. Um, so some people were actually fumbling with their shelters and starting to mentally shut down between the noise, the confusion and the panic. And, ya know, the psychological fact that you're actually going to crawl into this thing as a last resort. It's almost like crawling into your coffin to see if it fits. Ya know, before you get your burial. Um, pretty strange psychological feeling that you're committing, ya know, your last hope to this piece of tin foil. Petrilli: No major flaming fronts or anything impacting us but there were a few, ya know, ember showers blowing through blowing under your shelter, ya know, you could definitely hear it coming. Cooper: The thing that caused me the most alarm while I was in my shelter was trying to breath. Um, it got so smoky even inside the shelter that I was choking on my own snot. I could not stop from the mucus just pouring out of my face. I was constantly spitting and spitting and my eyes were so watery I could barely see and I kept my corners of my shelters tight, um, but it was getting to the point where I was afraid I would pass out from lack of oxygen and then lose my grip on my shelter and my shelter would get blown away. Petrilli: I called Mackey and I'm telling him hey we're deploying shelters and I don't remember him replying. Um, I don't remember any reply. Scholz: And all the way down, I was calling John Kelso. Shepard: No response. I kept calling. Got no response. Erickson: That it was uh, a weird feeling seeing these folks coming in off the side drainages on both sides. And and they were in shock. Maybe I looked just like they did, but they were zombies walking, and uh big eyes, and uh that was a really scary, ya know. I knew somebody didn't make it. I didn't know who, but I knew some folks didn't make it. Shepard: We headed on down the east canyon and all the time, thinking, wow we're gonna get met with a huge wall of flame coming up at any point at any turn down this draw. Robertson: And once you get into the bottom of it, there's there's many places where uh there's absolutely no way to get out because it is so steep and cliffy and um. And so you're really committed once you get into the bottom of that drainage and that was a very uneasy feeling. You've got wind in your face. You've got, you've got spot fires on your side. And you have no way of getting out of it until it ends. Gray: There was people's gear scattered around through here. There were people dropping their packs and just keeping their shelters. Hipke: I'm stumbling, I'm starting to get shockier with the wounds drying and they're helping me over rocks. Robertson: There's rock faces that uh are essentially probably little water falls when waters going over them. I encountered a number of those on my way down. Every time I walked up to one of those I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to get through it, get over it, especially when you hit that bottom one and you walk up and it just drops off and looking around to figure out how you're going to get down there without hurting yourself. All of them were luckily, traversable, you could get around them. You have to pick your way and they're, it's not easy. It wasn't just walking down a drainage, it was scrambling and rock climbing in many cases. Scholz: You come around the bend and suddenly you can see the freeway. you can hear the cars and pop out into the sunlight, out from under the column and uh you know you're going to make it and it was a great feeling. Doehring: Took a picture of Derek along one of those dry waterfalls, rock deals cuz at that point you could see the highway and we're like, alright we made it. Took a picture. We were pretty thankful. Hipke: We finally made it to the highway and it's the off ramp right there after the South Canyon off ramp. Ya know, cars zipping by at 70 miles an hour. Erickson: Sarah was the first one other than our group that I recognized. And I mean the hug she gave me was almost broke me in half and uh, that was a relief, ya know, there was also that, between us, that folks probably didnít make. Doehring: And Kevin was walking around and I realized that he had gotten burned on the back of his neck. And yeah, he was kinda pacing around and I was like maybe you should get looked at, too. Erickson: Jump in the ambulance with you and road back in. Ryerson: Limited information where everybody was at. I was assuming that the folks on the west side had ya know, hiked out on the west drainage. Shepard: There was a radio transmission that from up Canyon Creek Estates and somebody was saying hey I see fire shelters across the way, ya know. And I got my hopes up. Going maybe they made it. Hipke: Thirty minutes after the final person makes it to the freeway, the fire burns out the east drainage. Tom Shepard, Bryan Scholz, Sarah Doehring and Sonny Archuleta get rides back to Canyon Creek Estates where they meet up with 30 smokejumpers recently bused in from Grand Junction. Doehring: So there's a lot of people there and uh, yeah, they're making calls, they're asking us when was the last time we saw them and ya know, the fire was just ripping at that point and eventually the smoke kinda cleared. Shepard: Sure enough, you could see a cluster of fire shelters over there and it turned out to be the smokejumpers that were down on the west fireline. So my heart sank once again. Cooper: I do recall a retardant plane coming over and the fire had been dying down. We were pretty much staying inside our shelters cuz the smoke was so bad. The actual threat from flames had passed. The wind was really blowing. I'm sure it was terribly rough flying. The, uh second drop was almost eye-level, ya know, or below us but the wind blew that retardant right into us. Making numerous radio calls, trying to get a head count. Who's where, who's on the fire, ya know, and where are they. Doehring: They said there was definitely denial in my mind about, ya know, where everybody was and ya know, even though once Tony did his head count and we knew who was with him and once they came back and there was still some missing folks it's like, oh this can't be happening. They gotta be somewhere, you know. We'll hear from them soon. Erickson: Stuff was burned out and starting to cool down and not as much smoke so I figured I would go up to see what, how those guys were doing. Cooper: As the smoke cleared, we got out of our shelters. We checked everybody. Petrilli: We were trying to come up with a plan, ya know, knowing that we had missing missing firefighters out there. Cooper: Could look across the gutted out basin of brush that had burned up during the blow up and I could see what looked like a high impact cargo chute billowing in the wind. Petrilli: We just started, ya know, all of us hiking over to that to that area and, ya know, that's when the, ya know, uh, fatalities. Cooper: And that was, of course, extremely grim moment for everybody there. Petrilli: We came up on the lower group, um, of the of firefighters and, ya know, I was the guy that was talking on the radio so I think I was communicating with the helicopter pilot. He was out searching uh through the air and uh, um, ya know, I told him it's like we found uh, some uh, some of the firefighters. Um and uh we came back and asked, ya know, do we need medical. And it's like uh, what do you say. Um, ya know, I didn't know what to say. So I just said yeah, ya.. no, it's too late for that. Shepard: Tony replied back it's too late. And, yeah. We, we lost it. Scholz took off down the road um. I was just heart broken, just sick. Um. Tom Fitzpatrick um a jumper from Redmond that I knew just happened to be standing next to me, we shared an embrace. We hugged and I just started wandering around. Petrilli: Walking up the uh hill, finding the second group. Cooper: Ya know, I walked up on Jim Thrash was the first one I walked up on. And uh, I recognized him right away and uh. Ya know, when you're in that state of mind, with everything that you just went through, you're not thinking real clearly and I was first thing thought that came to my mind was oh my God, how am I going to tell Holly. Ya know, I didn't think about well, some Forest Service official will go to her home or whatever. For some reason I'm thinking I found him, I'm going to have to be the one to tell her. And I was thinking what am I going to say, what am I going to do. Petrilli: Walking further up the hill, um finding uh, it was it was Scott Blecha, ya know, it was, that was hard. That was hard to see that guy. He was close. Very close. Doehring: They were going to go up and do search and rescue and asked if I wanted to go cuz I'd been up there, I knew the area and at that time I was like, not me. Can't do it. And but I believe Sonny got in the helicopter and went up there again and I just couldn't. I'd seen enough. I'm not going up there. Cooper: And we're standing up there at the top of the hill with not so much of a twig left that hasn't been consumed. Here's this like four-foot snake that somehow lived through the fire, probably went underground, and had came back out. Sort of a weird twist to the very end of the fire to see this, ya know, snake, ya know, sign of evil, slithering through the burned brush. And it was uh, after that it was a helicopter ride off the hill and going through everything else that people go through. Hipke: It was not until two days later before they found the bodies of Rich Tyler and Rob Browning in a gully at the head of the west drainage. Their view from H2 would have been of the fire racing up towards H1, sweeping its way towards them, with the prevailing wind driving it into the east drainage while the rest of us were forced down the uninviting east drainage. Tyler and Browning had a bit more time to move along the ridge away from the advancing fire before heading towards bare ground, with flight helmets in hand, presumably hoping for helicopter pickup. With the brush obscuring their view, what they couldn't see was the 50-feet deep gully in their path, where they got trapped as the full force of the fire hit them. Shepard: As far as healing and recovery, it's interminable task it seems like to get back to where you wanna be in your mind and it's taken me forever. This long to to, ya know, even talk about it. It took 15 years for me before I went back and I walked up that hill. I walked that last fireline. Didn't know how I was going to react to that. Needless to say, it was an emotional, emotional time for me. But I'm glad I did that cuz that helped. Today's firefighter has I think a much greater safety awareness. If they see something they don't understand or see something that they think is out of whack, they're encouraged, today, to speak up, ask about it and ya know, it takes, it takes 20 people to run a hotshot crew. Not just one it takes 20 and and every voice is important and there just could be something that someone misses along the way that the newest recruit notices and brings to the supervisor's attention and ends up saving some lives. So That's where I'm at today. Everybody's got a voice.
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Published: Fri Apr 06 2018
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