We've Come for Your Sourdough! — Ep. 47 of Intentionally Blank

[Music] okay okay you ready for a food heist i'm always ready for a food house awesome so this one is older this one's actually five years old 2017. okay oh we could get into historical food heights historical food someone needs to send you some historical like we're talking medieval food medieval food heists yeah i want to hear about some medieval food heist guys have i told you about one of the the historical fiction books i want to write maybe okay so in the town of colon in germany which is cologne which is where our word for cologne comes from they uh that's that's not where perfume and cologne were invented but it was it's one of the primary sources in european history where it came from uh there was a period in its history in like the napoleonic era when napoleon himself was just paying scandalous amounts of money for cologne uh and so anyway it was huge business uh the reason the town is named after this or the reason that the you know oda cologne was named after the town whatever is because it was like one of the most lucrative things in all of europe at the time and uh there they actually employed perfume sniffers who would travel the world smelling forgeries yeah i think you did talk about this and i want to tell that story someone whose whole job is to sail around because they would go as far as china to smell the product people were selling and if it wasn't actual oda cologne then he had you know a team of thugs with him who would like beat you up and break your stuff and and tell you no this is not real stuff you can't sell it uh that would be an amazing story could we do a version of our our weird time travel things where it's uh time travel food tourism ooh could be to see if foods actually taste the way that they do uh like if now if in the past they tasted the same or how were the recipes and things like that is there a story there or does it have to instead be something like star trek four where it's like if we don't bring this brie oh yes forward in time because we have lost the ability to make brie or even better it's like sourdough stuff start in the world is gone we need to go back in time and get another one and if we don't bring it forward in time the space probe is going to destroy us they're like we have come for your sourdough bread give it to us or we will wipe your civilization clean i like how they sound like the people from galaxy quest yeah sorry they're thermians yeah uh okay so yeah this is this is not that historical but it's five years old which if you're my six-year-old daughter is a very long time yes anyway uh this happened in deutschland in germany somebody stole a refrigerated trailer okay containing 20 tons of nutella and kinder eggs you know my world shattered when i learned that kinder eggs were not german right that's one of the great lies perpetuated upon the species ruins everything they're italian right uh i actually don't know they're not german indigenously yes um some of them are when actually when we lived in stuttgart we were about 20 or 30 minutes away from the ritter sport factory where ritter comes from um and so tomorrow what john ritter john ritter uh i don't know if he was made in the factory or maybe the factory was named after him yeah but anyway what i love about this particular article talking about the theft of 20 tons of nutella is that the police are not convinced that the target was the nutella the the like the chief guy the detective who's investigating it said it was about 70 000 euros worth of chocolate but that the trailer was arguably worth more and he thinks that this might have been a theft of a trailer but in his words if you're gonna steal a trailer anyway you may as well steal one full of chocolate is nutella chocolate does it count i mean is chocolate adjacent yes right it's definitely chocolate adjacent yeah but uh i don't know if nutella counts as chocolate in the comments stellas i was so excited when i found uh what advertised itself as dark chocolate nutella and it didn't actually have any hazelnuts in it at all so it was just dark chocolate spread with no nutella also do you say nutella or nutella i say nutella nutella i always just say nutella i mean that makes more sense i don't know which one's right well it's from europe so you have to pick the fancier stuff to go with nutella yes i should pronounce it like nutella go like full argentine nutella um i don't think they wanted the truck or the nutella i think they wanted the kinder eggs because do you know how hard it is to collect a full set of any of their little kinder egg toys yeah like yeah they they do mini sets within a larger print run and you never know if you're going to get the set of little monsters that that are playing sports or if you're going to get the set of little cars with rubber bands that make them go or if you're going to get the the lame um movie tie-in toy yeah um and you never know you might buy a hundred kinder eggs and not complete your cool monsters playing sports thing but have like 30 copies of batman that does nothing yeah um and this is in some ways a selling point because they have a staggering variety yes of toys but on the other hand i can absolutely see you know the spoiled child of some german mobster yes who's like daddy i want all of the little cars with rubber bands though because if it's a spoiled german kid they have a british accent instead of a german accent right clearly yes yes obviously one of the things that always that i didn't understand at first when i moved there was i'd ask people if they spoke english and they'd say yes but i don't speak american or vice versa yeah you know i learned by watching movies so i speak american but i don't speak english and to a second language speaker there actually is enough of a difference in accent and vocabulary that they consider them separate yeah um even though to us it was like no it's the same thing they just say all the words i had friends in korea who could not understand a mutual american friend from boston really had so much trouble with the boston he had a pretty thick boston accent but to me a boston accent is not on the hierarchy of thick accents it's pretty low down on the uh the the difficulty of intelligibility high on the intelligibility thing what do you think about the fact that um in english vikings always have scottish accents right well i mean the viking tv show they give them kind of vaguely danish accents i was talking more like how to train your dragon yeah and you know how to train your dragon is very scottish very scottish and that happens a lot like dwarves often get the scottish accent um and uh there's like the scottish accent means warrior in the in english and so if you want a warrior culture they often just give them a scottish accent whatever kind of fantastical and or historical uh race it is it's like doctor who right when uh christopher eccleston showed up and someone asked him why do you sound like you're from the north and he said well lots of planets have a north [Laughter] well there you go so what are we talking about today this is your uh your pitch of a podcast okay yeah so uh we're going to talk about weird and or frustrating or annoying questions that we get uh and and and i i want to be political about this diplomatic about this uh that if you've ever asked this question of an author that doesn't mean that we like are mad at you or anything it's just a question we get a lot and in some cases don't have good answers for or the answer is never as cool as you think it's going to be so it will be innately disappointing i swear we got we did some of this on an episode once so we might repeat ourselves a little bit yeah i know there's a few questions that you had that i haven't talked about on this podcast so yeah i know that the two main ones yeah i know we haven't talked about before uh so first world author problems which question have we talked about before and and of course you know oh boohoo you're an author who gets people asking you questions i mean first world author problems so um how often do you get people asking you to write a story oh i've got a great idea for a story you should write this it's got to be like number three on my hierarchy where number one is number one and two are both really valid questions number one is hey can you um tell me when this sequel is coming out that's probably my number one most asked question number two being hey um can you give me some writing advice which i love to do yeah and those both come up i got one of those today uh and answered it happily i actually created a blog post many years ago and now when people ask that question i just send them the link and i'm like yeah everything i want to say about this i have already said yeah we do like brandon.com writing dash advice it just goes to all the different places that i've done it so but yeah but i would guess number three is hey i have this really cool idea and then it branches it branches to why don't you write it and give me half the money or it's for free it's a really great idea here you go mm-hmm yeah now is there there's a third iteration that i've gotten a fair number of times which is my mother slash grandma slash uncle slash whatever has had a really fascinating life you should write their memoir yep guaranteed bestseller because it's so crazy and the uh my dad's dream is to have a book published here's his cool idea can you make this happen um yeah so how do you respond to these um i will tell you how i respond i would love to hear it it is not at all because i don't do my own fan mail anymore i'm sorry guys uh and so there is a nice uh well-worded form email that my team sends out saying brandon has more ideas of his own than he can possibly write and so he doesn't need any more ideas uh if you come up with some way to magic in more hours in the day please let us know yeah my answer is usually the same kind of thing uh i will sometimes if the person has not annoyed me yeah by the uh vehemence of their question if they seem like they're a really nice uh person who's not just trying to you know cash in uh then i will usually say something like you know the world has plenty of dan wells books they don't have any u-books you should write this yourself that is a nice way which which feels a little more supportive and helpful than just i mean the real answer that we can talk about on the podcast which some of you have heard us talk about before this is something we get into is the idea that ideas are cheap yeah uh ideas are the easy parts of being a writer now that doesn't mean that for some writers ideas aren't hard i will and some ideas are hard even for established authors i don't want to belittle or demean someone's struggle with writing but in general as an average most professional writers have more ideas than they have time to write yes and indeed lots of people have good ideas legitimately good ideas for stories but the skill to turn that into an actual story is the thing that takes years and years of practice and that's the actual valuable thing ideas are cheap everybody has them that doesn't mean they're bad ideas but everybody's got them but you don't have his ten years of practice turning a story idea into an actual story is this the much more difficult part i mean you can see on this very podcast when i come up with pretty bad ideas how easily dan turns them into legitimately interesting stories uh they still might not work as books yes uh but they are funny stories to tell each other um but yes and those are both skills that can be learned yes you know and so that's a question that i used to get all the time and don't often anymore which is where do you get your ideas yeah uh and to be fair i think most the people asking that are not themselves writers or even aspiring writers they're the taxi driver or somebody like that who's never even thought about doing this right and once you get into this headspace and you're like well i want to be an artist and i want to create art and you can kind of teach yourself how often just through practice how to come up with stories how to come up with ideas i should say uh here's a really cool thing let's let's take this and run with it yeah um and i mean i tell the jim butcher story a lot uh i like the jim butcher story so i'm sorry for those who've heard it before but this is the story where he was arguing this point on a forum with someone before he was published and they had this sort of feeling that ideas were that that's what separated the published authors from the the unpublished authors was the published oscars just authors just had better ideas they they magically were able to come up with really great ideas for stories and i won't again completely dismiss that sometimes there are places where an author is very well positioned with a really killer idea like jurassic park i have to mention is that right at the right time to break michael crichton out of kind of being a niche ish he'd still done pretty well but nichiish author who had this formula um good formula not bad way for me but a group of scientists solve a near science fiction problem together um and then disaster ensues yeah um and a lot of those they're good books andromeda strain congo sphere all of this is fear before or after um but i want to say it was after but but there's there's so much kind of i think of these and then he hit on the one that just had enormous mass market potential bring dinosaurs back to life using the dna from mosquitoes that they had you know just like come blockbuster idea make a theme park absolutely a case where you can see the idea itself is worth yeah 50 of the value of that thing and he'd been writing these stories that are good and then this one yeah so i don't want to demean that but um in general that skill is the missing component and uh jim butcher was arguing this point and uh the guy he's like all right guy give me your worst ideas um and i'm gonna write a book about them and the guy said take the lost roman legion and mash it up with pokemon um that's codex yeah uh and i've confirmed this story with jim himself it's it's entered kind of popular lore so i've heard it uh multiple times but i've confirmed it with him that's where it came from some guy on a forum gave him uh gave him writing prompts that he thought that was a terrible idea mashing together two disparate things that just did not work together and lo and behold turned into a best-selling book series yeah and really that is where you know in in ignoring the outliers like jurassic park that is where 99 of the work is done is not in the creation of the idea but in the the execution of it the toil and sweat to actually turn something into a real story so if you have this question mm-hmm then you know the answer is go get that skill and then your your idea suddenly becomes way more valuable when you can back it up we don't want to write your idea we want to write our ideas um once in a while we'll inspire one another and work together and if you want to work together with other authors you need to be bringing to the table not just ideas but uh that same sort of skills skill set yeah uh kevin j anderson and now that i'm thinking of this story all of a sudden i'm worried that we've talked about this on the show before because i swear i've told this specific anecdote what the writer with no future award no but uh kevin's answer to that question is actually i've got 20 ideas i can't i don't have time to write what if i give one to you and you write it and then you give me half the money and the other person said why would i ever do that and he's like exactly man deja vu have we talked about this i i think so i don't remember talking about any of the other stuff but that story i swear we've told all right uh anyway let's move on let's let's talk about another question that we get uh and we get this one a lot i know that i do uh this usually comes from a software developer someone who uh will email me or they email writing excuses and i'm usually the one that answers all of the that mail where they say hey i want to put together a piece of software uh for writing or something that will facilitate this aspect of publishing or this aspect of you know writing whatever um are you interested in looking at it or i'm earlier in the process and i want to do it what are the features that you would want such as piece of software to include i get that all the time do you get that one i get that once in a while i don't get it as often as you seem to um but i do get it now and then okay it's part of a larger subset of i want to make publishing easier for authors and so i am starting up this thing that is revolutionary new ignore the 300 other ones so what what do you often see reality show based on writing i've gotten that one a bunch do you get that i've never gotten that no i i say a bunch like five or six times someone's wrote and say i'm starting a reality show for about writers will you be one of the judges or something like that where we're gonna take five new authors we're gonna you know or 20 new authors or whatever we're gonna pit them challenges we're gonna make survivor but for authors for authors and that actually does sound interesting they never work because writing is so boring writing is not visually exciting um but i i get that one i get the we're trying to make it easier for authors to break into the industry so we're creating yet another website where authors can put up their uh their stories and we will then reinventing wattpad yeah well not yeah reinventing whitehead but the whole idea is we'll get industry insiders to be will make it easier for them to find your work rather than you submitting to the slushpile and i can see where this idea comes from right rather than slushpyle what if we had a place that you know stories were upvoted and then editors could browse those and pick the stories that they but number one where do you how do you monetize um number two how do you get the editors to actually do this when they have submission guidelines and people are submitting to them and they have their whole system and then number three that's what wattpad that's kind of bad already is um that's what's specifically focused on publishing yeah but but still the idea that you're posting i mean how many other fan fiction sites um you know archive of our own yes uh which is you post a story and people can upload it and you know anyone could go on there and find something if that's what they were looking for yeah uh what i tend to get is much more of hey look i'm reinventing scrivener yes do you want to be involved in some way and the thing for me is all i need is a word processor and email and there is essentially no bells and whistles you could add to either of those very basic functions that would be of any value to me in any way and i understand that i am much further to the luddite side of the scale than many people are scrivener itself feels like too many bells and whistles for me i want something that will let me type that will let me revise uh and then that will let me save and that is all i need out of a word processor well let me ask then some of the things that i use on microsoft word do you use autosave and document recovery um i suppose yes those are valuable things so i do use those um but like pages does that yeah i'm just saying typically what i type in um i the thing i use and all of them do this uh that i see a lot of authors not using is i use a document map i use the the uh the outline feature because it's so easy to jump between chapters in a book if you've just said this is heading number two uh this is every chapter title is heading number two and you i actually during my drafts i'm putting mated at it in there chapter you know chapter four caledon flashback sequence one or khalid in this sequence or things like that so i can open up the document map quickly see an outline of which chapters are which characters and things like that do you do anything like that um i will use those if i am writing an actual outline or world bible typically especially if something is going to be shared with other people so uh if i am building a world bible for uh typecast back when i did typecast and we were we all needed to participate in the world building um then yes the document map has come in handy but for my own novels this might just be because you write novels that are four times i do they're larger than mine um and but how do you get between chapters do you just like search for chapter and then just no i just grab the little slider and pull it back and find what i'm looking for it's so much faster so much faster to just document map uh that i will also say i almost never need to find something in the middle of a document unless i'm going through an edit in which case someone's marked it with a comment okay because i tend to edit as i go and i tend to write in chronological order okay and so it is rare that i will need to find oh where did this thing happen now often as i'm going through and i will hit a point where you know jermaine to our previous discussion about we need to we need to foreshadow that this guy's turning into a frog yes i will have to go back and and you know the lightning will strike and i'll say oh this will work so much better if i tweak this other chapter and then i will have to find that that happens one of the things that happens to me a lot uh and this is going to happen to you much less is i will be reading through and be like i did this with the the new waxing wayne book i'm like oh man i really need this other viewpoint chapter to go before this one because um either for pacing reasons i need to break up these talky bits with an action bit or um oh this other thing is happening over here and i want i've referenced it in this chapter so i need to and so i do that and on the document you can just drag the chapter to before oh and let go and it's now there but then it's like all right that means that all the chapters with this other viewpoint are now one out of sync and i need to move every chapter so it's basically every second or third chapter depending on how the balancing is forward then i need to look at the beginnings and ends of these these chapters and see that it's still fitting and be like oh no i need to move this one moving chapters around so easy in the document map and i have to do it a ton when i'm blending viewpoints yeah which makes sense and i rarely have to do i have to do that so rarely that just you know copy paste is all it takes maybe once a year i will say this chapter should go somewhere else but that said i don't use a ton of like every time a new edition of word comes out and they add a bunch of features i'm like why did you why did you why did you change i have to turn this thing off now there's new one on microsoft word that's so annoying when you highlight a word that has a squiggle under it right it means it's uh it then puts a box around it that you have to drop down it wants you to drop down to chip correct to pick the right spelling right um where what it means is i can no longer i've had 20 years of using microsoft word where if i see something i want to change i double click on the word and type the new word so fast so easy i don't need to spell check it i don't need now if i double click it the first one highlights the word and the second one brings down the drop-down menu and i can't type anymore until i dismiss the drop-down menu and i do not know how to get rid of that thing it is so annoying oh my gosh i have i mean this this is probably my single biggest pet peeve in the entire world is please stop quote unquote upgrading your software that i have used forever like and this this happens to email programs this happens to word processors i gave up i stopped using word years ago precisely because they won't stop fiddling with it they won't i don't need all of these extra functions they are actively detrimental to my process they took one away that i actually used oh which one so for a while um on the scroll bar they had an arrow at the top an arrow at the bottom that was like search up for the next instance of whatever's in your search and replace thing or search down they got rid of those so you were able to um because the search box takes up a bunch of the screen right and so you could get rid of that and just click up and it's like i'll find the next one not anymore uh now i had to add a little thing to my bar that's like find next and five and find previous it was just and they took that one away and they added stuff like this other one and it's like i use libreoffice and pages depending on which device i'm on libreoffice still has that search arrows yeah which is nice because i do use those um and then pages i don't know pages i have turned off pages is nice because you it's very modular you can turn off pretty much and every function off a ton of stuff i will give them that and i turn off so much stuff on yeah um all all of their new their new things though all of this reminds me of uh a counter example earl you know earl our mutual friend i used to live in uh earl owned a house and a bunch of us live there not you but ben did and i did and uh micah did micah and he had on the fridge his favorite dilbert comet comic okay which was uh the dilbert sitting there with the pointy-haired boss and they've got like a client and the boss is like what do you need what do you think of our software and the client says it needs more features and the boss looks at dilbert and says okay how soon can you have that done um right like oh my gosh yeah i what i have found and i don't know if this um if this is is is real or not like i don't know if this is common i should say but uh there was a recent update made to outlook which is what i use for email that would suggest words and phrases if it thought it knew what you were trying to say and i hate any kind of predictive text i always turn it off and so it added this thing and i was writing an email and all these suggestions kept popping up and then after i sent the email it literally popped up a box that said hey what do you think of our new predictive text thing and gave me the option of uh commenting and so i wrote a really not mean but fairly scathing thing like this is awful i don't want this why would you add this um and then somehow i think there because this didn't appear until after i had written the comment but a little window popped up and said do you want to turn this feature off so i think i was just mean enough in my comment that they're like okay fine right we will turn this off and maybe everybody gets that regardless of what they comment but i like the idea that the comment field was reading what i was saying and identified enough keywords to be like oh yeah this guy's one of those old men who hates new technology i don't think it's an old man thing it kind of is but it kind of isn't um i you know i used to look at ray bradbury who famously wrote on a typewriter until he passed away in the 2000s right um and uh that or the fact that george martin's still last i heard worked in word star um yeah that's amazing um and things like that and i used to think old fogey right um stuff like that i think the truth is that um as writers our needs as professional novelists are so different from the average user base of those programs that the features that we hate are to help the average user base to make things work better ui wise and things like that whereas we need the raw tool uh with with very few bells and whistles because we can bend that tool to the shape we need it to for a given circumstance yes uh just like a mechanic i'm going to assume they can do more with a simple wrench than i can do with the fanciest machine that's uh trying to imitate me having the skill and knowledge in order to use that wrench we need a wrench uh we want a nice wrench that has a few things to it but we need very few of the rest and i wonder if the fact that these things are always changing is like just give me a wrench give me the best wrench you got is and there's we are such a small segment of the population yeah i wonder if that's just not something good for them to serve and and and i absolutely can see that and uh i i do believe that especially with something like predictive text that's 100 what's going on uh if someone does not frequently write uh then they don't necessarily know what they're doing or how to do it and having some extra things like if you're trying to send off a quick email in the course of your day working you know business whatever business is accounting or insurance or something you that might be very very valuable to you because you're often sending the same kinds of things and predictive texts can fill that in and it's easy uh the counterpoint which doesn't doesn't actually counter anything you're saying so much as it is baseless fear-mongering i have read and written too much cyberpunk to not be concerned about the long-term slippery slippery slope effects of handing our communication over to machines right like there is virtually no case in which it's actually going to be i think really harmful to society to let your phone finish your text sentence for you but i could absolutely write a really great story in which our handing over the keys to our communication to something else is going to smooth all of the idiosyncratic edges off of our communication and we're all going to start saying very similar things to each other like that's not a real concern but it's still a concern that is out there technology i'm kind of staying on this or sort of thing that people ask authors about yes did you um what about the cross medium boom that never happened nope i kept trying to do this is the um i'm going to make a platform or i'm going to make books where you read the book and then jump to the web for a video and then listen to the song and then jump back to the book do you remember when this was like a huge thing that everyone was trying to get to work yeah everyone wanted to be writing or producing multimedia books yeah with graphics and music and all this extra stuff and a few of them did work like uh the school for children misses peregrines is that how you say it uh mrs did that one have multimedia yeah it was all about the photos so the idea is that these photos were a big deal my wife read them and i didn't uh but you had to go to the internet to find the extra lore on the photos but you can print a photo in a book and i assume that they did yeah um as well but well and i can see that working because that's not new yeah books with illustrations have been around for hundreds of years you know but i know she did end up on the web for those photos um extra information about the photos might oh man i'm kind of talking uh maybe adam can figure out what this is the photos might have had motion to them like they had to be gifts in order to in order to properly pull off the spookiness of the photos i don't know i know they had they had a multimedia component and i know that series worked really well and since i am not familiar enough with it we should move perhaps on and i do know that uh like i've i've talked about before 76 being one of my favorite stories of all time football in the future yeah um just brilliant just read it don't even try to get any context for what it is uh it is awesome uh and it is multi-media um it is story and web and video uh all kind of simultaneous but yeah it is on the internet and so you scroll down to the bottom and i actually have kind of like some of these stories that you scrolling as part of like you know there's comics that the scrolling is part of it and stuff you can only do on the internet i see that as its own new medium rather than cross-medium it's its own medium and trying to take books and turn it into that has generally flopped but i get used to more a lot of people trying to get me to buy into some version of that yeah there's uh i oh boy yeah i i don't know this this feels again like something that we may have talked about before we're running out of new ideas uh we need to write down what our podcasts are about we've covered you need to write down what our podcasts are about archive every topic we've ever touched on i think uh adam actually could just as he's sitting here listening have opened a spreadsheet that just is like here's some major topics that they talked about oh man um which with another tab for yep you've told that joke before oh man don't do that one to us we'll be in serious trouble uh but yes um i do think that there's a lot of interesting stuff to be done uh i mean now that we've got um you know and we've talked about this before with smart devices that can do extra things with audio um audiobooks that have that are that there's there's a line between is this audio book just someone reading the book out loud or does it include music and sound effects does it include full cast like there's a whole spectrum there um i do believe that the future of audiobooks will eventually include some smart house stuff whether you're in your car or in your house the ability to do some other atmospheric things uh even if that's just a stereo effect where you know some of this sound comes from a different part of the room or something like that yeah for a little while when alexa and things and the google home were taking off there was was discussion at all these companies of these multimedia projects where it's like it's a horror uh story where when they say a door closed a door downstairs in your house close yes or you just hear the sound of it yes well that's what i meant but yeah or we we would have the ability to turn your lights on or off or something like that um that's a functionality that i think is very cool and very exciting and ultimately very limited in its uh usability for years vr was the the thing i i had lots of meetings with people who are like we're going to try to start a vr company that's going to try to do movies vr um and that is not materialized either doesn't mean it won't someday holodeck type movies right yeah um where you walk around and experience the movie but what they found is it's real hard to tell a story without a frame for the viewpoint um and some cool stories came out of that but again they're a new genre trying to take traditional stories and tell them this way has proven much more difficult than any of my friends in hollywood thought yeah uh and it's because that uh kind of telling a story while also giving full like agency to the the reader viewer is very difficult and it's something that works really well with for example a role-playing game where you've got a live person you know adapting on the fly uh computer games are trying to pick up that same slack yeah it worked pretty well for macbeth uh i hear i never went to uh the macbeth uh project in new york where they took different rooms of the house and the difference the house were playing different scenes from macbeth and but it kind of works for me that's because you kind of know the story of macbeth right and so you can go and be like oh i can see what this character is doing off screen when wouldn't be on screen in the play and those sorts of things but it's like having an experience rather than getting a story told to you yeah it's like going to the theme park version of macbeth experiencing the world of macbeth which everyone's always wanted to do um but uh you know and then you get into things that are more like well is this a book with illustrations or is this a visual novel or is this a web comic is there any value in drawing lines between where one begins and one ends um there's a lot of cool things that can be done in that space uh but yeah i don't know i don't know if they you have to go pretty far from the novel to get to something that is intrinsically new rather than just here's just a different way of reading a novel you know next episode a podcast told entirely by a computer using predictive text no we're not going to do that how's that been you

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