We met the world’s first domesticated foxes

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- Fox number one. So, that is me, locked in a pen in San Diego. And that is a very special red fox from Russia. We're testing whether the fox likes me, because it's actually bred to be friendly towards people. And, in that moment, I'm really hoping it passes the test. I'm just minding my own business. Exotic pets are weirdly compelling, especially on social media. They're like a glimpse into this alternate reality where we domesticated raccoons instead of cats and dogs. But, they're not really domesticated. Animals like cats, dogs, horses, pigs, we bred them for generation after generation to live alongside humans. Exotic pets are hand raised, but they're basically still wild animals with maybe one exception. (soft music) We drove up into the hills outside San Diego to meet a very few rare animals. They're foxes that are born without any built-in fear or aggression towards humans. They wag their tails at you; they like treats. They're very curious about you, though they are a little camera shy. There's nothing quite like them. Aww, I got a lick, I got a lick. We're visiting Amy and David Bassett at their Canid Education and Conservation Center. It's sort of an interactive zoo built to introduce the general public to foxes. The Bassetts got them as pets, but not from an exotic pet breeder. They're the result of a nearly 60-year long Russian science experiment. Victor, sit, sit, good fox, good fox. It all traces back to a Soviet geneticist named (speaks foreign language) In the 1950s, (speaks foreign language) hit on an idea that was radical for its time, that domesticated animals like dogs are friendly to people because of genes that govern their behavior. Meaning, the process that turned wolves into dogs tens of thousands of years ago was essentially evolution. There were friendliness genes that won out in wolves as they adapted to live alongside humans. These foxes exist because of the way (speaks foreign language) tested his idea. In 1959, his team began selectively breeding foxes at the Institute of Cytology and Genetics in remote (speaks foreign language) Russia. The criterion was simple. The foxes that showed the least fear or aggression when approached by experimenters were allowed to breed. The less friendly foxes weren't. They selected the next generation of foxes the same way, and the next generation, and the next, for decades. (speaks foreign language) died in 1985, but the work continued and by 2004 nearly 70% of the foxes had reached an elite level of friendliness. By some measures, they had domesticated the fox, which is how a few years back two dog lovers found themselves in over their heads. - We had absolutely no idea. They're very cheeky, very mischievous, get into everything, chew and tear everything apart. - [Host] David and Amy currently own five of the only 10 or 15 (speaks foreign language) foxes in the United States. They cost around $9,000 to buy and import one all the way from Siberia and they came with a learning curve. - We learned quickly that they are not really house trained. So, they will poop and pee everywhere. So, it's not very easy to have them in your kitchen, say, when they jump on the counters and poop. - [Host] The Bassetts have since adjusted to life with foxes, but they've learned that being domesticated is one thing, being man's best friend is another. - While they are certainly tame, they're fascinating and incredible animals, they're still foxes and when you domesticate a fox, you don't make a dog, you make a domesticated fox. Anymore than when you domesticate a horse you make a dog. - [Host] So, (speaks foreign language) did not recreate the dog, but for anyone studying how wolves evolved into dogs, the foxes might still represent a behavioral stepping stone. - [Host] Clive Wynne is professor of psychology at Arizona State. He studies the unique relationship between dogs and people and the way that dogs go above and beyond simple friendliness towards humans. - [Host] Accord to Clive, at least 14,000 years ago hyper-social dogs emerged from a population of wild wolves and no one's really sure how it happened. - [Host] But, the (speaks foreign language) foxes might offer a clue. Clive and his team have a simple test to see how far along the foxes are on their path to doghood. And they told us how to carry it out. So, the experiment is really simple. I have a one-meter radius circle all the way around me and they're gonna bring in a fox one at a time into this enclosure. The idea was to see how much of two minutes the foxes would spend inside my circle. We tried first with the three (speaks foreign language) foxes and one-by-one they trotted up, sniffed me, and then relaxed somewhere else, which has been Clive's experience with the foxes, too. - [Host] For comparison, we also tested a fox that was hand-reared by humans, but genetically wild. It never set foot inside the radius and it never relaxed. And, for a final contrast, we tested a dog. I gotta ignore you for two minutes. Afterwards, we got to spend some more time with the (speaks foreign language) foxes and they were completely tame with us, just not so friendly. Clive and the Bassetts suspect that this is because of their early lives as lab animals. They were bred for generations to be friendly, but then barely socialized as youngsters, and that's important, too. - [Host] Clive and his team plan to keep studying fox behavior to build out a roadmap for how dogs became dogs. But, locked inside each of those foxes is another roadmap, one that might help explain domestication in any animal. - [Host] Anna Kukekova is a professor or animal sciences at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Since 2002, she's been collaborating with the institute in Russia on genetics research. Her goal is to reach the absolute core of the fox experiment, the specific genes involved in fox domestication. And a few weeks ago, she and her team published a paper in Nature, Ecology, and Evolution that made a lot of progress. - [Host] Anna's research is valuable, because it directly compares the genes of wild and domesticated foxes. We can do that with wolves and dogs, but we can't infer as much about it. As dogs evolved, friendliness just wasn't the only trait that mattered. For example, they also had to digest human food. So, we can see which genes changed from wolves to dogs, but it's harder to know whether those really are behavior genes. On the other hand, there was only one fox trait that (speaks foreign language) selected for, friendliness towards humans. So, here it's a little easier to associate behavior with DNA. - [Host] This is such a big deal, because there's a lot of overlap in mammalian genes. So, these genes that Anna found, they could help us understand domestication across the board. And, given that, it's possible that we could use gene editing tools to domesticate entirely new animals in the lab, maybe. - [Host] But, back in reality, where does that leave the foxes? They're still being bred for the experiment, but they're also trickling out into the world as pets, which puts them in a strange no-man's land between a wild animal and a companion. They were not created the same way dogs were and they're certainly not dogs now. But, if you know to look for it, there's a hint of something familiar about them. - You take the short moments when they're scared they'll come to you. If you're open to it and you realize what that means. What's the significance of this semi-wild animal who just came to you for comfort and that's kind of what you have to understand in order to bond with a fox. It's these small moments that have huge significance to them. (soft music) - So, one thing we didn't talk about was that even though (speaks foreign language) only selected for friendliness, there were a lot of physical changes to the foxes, too. Their coats were different, their ears got floppier, even their skulls changed. It's called domestication syndrome and you should read about it, because it is wild.
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Channel: Verge Science
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Keywords: foxes, domestic animals, fox, red fox, animal, animals, genes, genetics, dna, gene, gene editing, biology, breeding, mating, breed, verge science, species, wildlife, education, pet, wild, animal discovery, wild discovery animals, animal planet, animal documentary, nature, william poor, cory zapatka, alex parkin, discovery channel, science, facts, science experiments, experiment, the verge, vox, verge, seeker, life noggin, Motherboard, Veritasium, SciShow, ASAP Science, Kurzgesagt, nat geo
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Length: 9min 57sec (597 seconds)
Published: Tue Sep 11 2018
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We are about 500 years behind in terms of bear domestication. Think of the advancements we could make.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1644 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Srsly_dang πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

That’s great, but do they still sound like a child being murdered when they get frisky outside your bedroom window at 3 in the morning? Because for me that will always be the deal breaker.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 385 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/saveable πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

Wolves are pack animals, foxes aren't. If you breed a social and tame animal from a fox, you're going to get something very different from a fox, just as dogs are different from wolves. Probably more so.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 677 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/PastelFlamingo150 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

I think that this could also be tested with wild wolves. I would assume that you could also select them for friendliness and the same concept could be used to test against dog and wild wolf DNA.

I think this is a very cool concept and it’s really interesting that they were bred for friendliness but that’s it lol. I can’t imagine what it be like. Maybe kind of like a cat? They love you but they kind of do their own thing.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 161 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/pugmommy4life420 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

Legally, most US laws will not recognize them as pets. Only a limited, defined range of recognized domesticated species can be a pet.

Otherwise, you may be violating game laws if you don't have, like, a wildlife rehabber license.

Of note, like for "wolf dogs", if legally deemed a wolf, the canine rabies vaccine is not medically approved for wolves. So even if you get the canine vaccine, it will almost certainly be effective medically, but if the wolf bites someone, then they will likely consider it unvaccinated and destroy it to examine the brain for rabies.

Some weird lady brought a deer on a leash to the Alamo awhile back. They called the game warden.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 136 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Oznog99 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

Call me when they do it with lions

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 59 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Private_Hazzard πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

His cracked phone screen was driving me wild

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 45 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/hellooo-its-me πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

There was a TIL post about dogs having some similarity in the genes which also happen to cause Williams syndrome in humans, a condition that has unique sociability personality traits. This author seems to have several papers on this:

https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/10/6/1546/5026594

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 32 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Cheesybread247 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies

I raised a family of opossums until they were a certain age and released them, but I kept the calmest one as a pet. She is perfectly fine with me being in the room, but doesn't come to me for comfort (she's more like a cat, a space, her carrier, is comfort, not another living thing). Still, she will come across the room if I call her name, and I can walk alongside her outside with a leash (she doesn't heel).

I'm currently working on getting her used to being picked up, and when I'm sitting or standing with her, her comfort zone is actually on my shoulders. Finally, if I am sitting for a long time, such as watching a movie, I can wrap her in a towel and she will, gradually, eventually, fall asleep on my lap if there are no distractions/food... But I have to be careful, because opossums sleep hard and she will slide right off my legs unless I hold her.

Still, it has been fascinating interacting with a "tame" wild animal. She's a lot more than I expected.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 43 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Ubarlight πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 05 2018 πŸ—«︎ replies
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