WC3 - TeD Cup 5 - Semifinal: [UD] eer0 vs. Soin [ORC]

it was against linguaga right oh yeah it was real right what was the tournament again it was a smiley cup or something yeah i think it was small cup yeah and then i saw he started laddering with orc i was actually convinced or like i thought there was a good chance he was gonna play orc here but i guess he kind of went back on that maybe he wants to be able to look at himself in the mirror when he wakes up have you seen by the way lynn and fly they've been playing grunt builds and i played lean on ladder yesterday and then i asked him after i was like what are you doing because he went like wind rider with bloodlust or something uh-huh obviously didn't do well and then after he messaged him like what is this struts and he was like oh i'm just trying out stuff because i think headenders are going to be nerfed and i'm i was a little bit surprised because personally i don't think there will be a patch for a while so who knows well it wouldn't be too surprising headhunters definitely are looking pretty good right now a lot of players have been trying to find the right answer especially the humans and the undeads out there have been having problems with the farsi 100 strategy and there's a couple of different approaches especially for the undeads some people try to play crypto fast expo which seems to be tough some people still play the standard head fiend opening some go for fast fiends which i personally think is the best counter the one to zero is playing the ted fiends which was to be expected 1-0 style against headhunters nowadays seems to be fast tech low tempo what low tempo means is that he's going to have very few strong forces out early he will not be able to fight very well he will not be able to harass very well he's going to be relying on low unit count to tech quickly into frenzy ghouls and destroyers the build that he's been showing was head fiend opening with two fiends only two fiends into tier three and basically only play the mid game with two heroes and two fiends and a statue and then transition into frenzy ghouls with destroyers with the sharp tier three timing with triple hero that can be very strong but has some downsides and so and by the way is not playing the farcier headhunters who would have thought it's going to be the blademaster opening here which would have worked out very well had he gone up against fast fiends because fast fiends doesn't deal well with blademaster but does deal fairly well with uh fascist but so 1-0 gets the upper hand in the dice roll of the opening builds he's got the ted fiend opening which is definitely the best thing he could have chosen against his blademaster yeah so it seems like someone tried to play a bit of a mind game and he was just convinced there was gonna be straight into finns from one to zero which as you said can be one of the good builds they went for the blademaster and it works out pretty fine i guess for him either way right like you should know exactly how to play against that style that one two heroes doing as well and uh i'm just curious like why i just mentioned lin and fly not playing with head and turns recently and now sewing does that so obviously it could be that he was just trying to play mind games but it's kind of weird to see those guys not using the hand hunters when they they're the strongest that they've been in a long time and terrible drops also in by the way yeah these are very atrocious what does zero sees what's going on he saw of course with the akka at the beginning and i do favor one to zero here quite a bit his match-up against orc has always been great and soon has been playing mostly headhunters recently of course he played blademaster for years he's not unfamiliar with that style but playing blademaster tier three it's very strong in the late game against undead but it's not an easy style at all you have to know your timings perfectly well your creep route has to be impeccable you are relying on your heroes in the late game the units for the orc are going to be pretty trash for the most part it's going to be all about the heroes late game and so he needs to have uh well a good game plan and he needs to have a good idea of what he needs to do at all points stealing creeps away from the unit is always a classic always a favorite the one to zero look at this game sense he knows this might be happening he sees the blademaster and what's he doing he's not walking next to the creep to get the item that was weird so he gets the lasted with the coil but he freely gives the item to the blade which looked like a bit of a mistake but the experience here is a big deal that fast level three is going to be making a big difference on both sides and 100 super efficient the fiends crept the rest of the camp but the dk still was able to steal at xp and that is the world-class undead versus work match-up that wants to has always had maybe sowing's been watching some streams of hitman and then he saw like a great blade mask to play i mean sometimes i watch hitman playing i'm like oh i want to go play masterjohn letter like this this looks so incredibly fun and amazing and he's so damn good at it but yeah as you said he's been one of the orcs that has been using a lot of fossil head enters so for him to play differently here definitely uh makes for a real best of five from now because then it's like in game two you know what does he do does he and also like if one two zero is expecting another blade master in game two and it's a good map for it maybe even goes creep lord expo which i've seen him win almost every single game that he's done with uh free plot expo against blade except maybe against lynn i think that's big mis at the first mistake here by one to zero this game he didn't scout the middle fast enough during the first night time with three grunts this is also an orc classic trying to snipe the item in the middle and you can always disengage easily if you get found with a scroll the beast so the scout here for one to zero should have been a bit faster especially considering that he had those illusions early late master though still not level three and he used a lot of mana you mentioned hitman before something we see from hitman a lot is that he always tries to preserve a high mana count because this is gonna determine how well he can harass on tier 2 to secure safe creeping for the shadow hunter second which now is out and we can see the blademaster he's got one wind walk only it's only level one so once they are seeing this he knows he can safely take the middle now and get the big item at the troll warlord they even start seasoning the blademaster liberty still has one charge of dust which you definitely need here leech enters the field with claws and mantle always nice let's see use it just a bit early actually blade wasn't detected oh my god oh that was close wait if he shows up and there's nova he might be dead oh so it didn't keep that in mind that it might be nova first trying to speed scroll oh oh the heck is cool and the hill south oh my god what is safe look at the shadow hunter he uses full mana pool to creep and then save the blade and this is what i was talking about blademaster first it can be very strong but needs a lot of practice you have to have a lot of things in mind where you can be how far you can go where you have to harass when you shouldn't harass and so in i'm sorry if i'm being a little too blunt here but this is not very clean blade master play it just isn't really did soon just use another speed scroll by the way oh i didn't see that but i think he went home and i think he may have clicked on the next speech scroll that he just bought because he was active for a very long time he just like literally expired when i mentioned that because now like when he came home now he would have bought another speech call right so i think he did and he used it by accident it would be pretty bad like you need those later on yes pizzas are crucially important in the late game fights if you want to have a good fight good start to the fight you need to have those speed skills and ideally you want to have two one to engage and one to save a hero if it gets focused phenomenally dependent of energy which is great if you have decent mana already and then you have a big pool to use but if you're out of mana that pendant does nothing for you unless you start buying mana potions which would be expensive which is also something you can't afford too easily because this one based tier three oxide is very costly tc is coming in now we have a coat of upgrade in the works but we don't even have a coater out yet this orc army is still a complete joke and the blademaster has to creep with the shadowhunter to just be able to kill some camps shadows not level three yet but the red camp might change that and one to zero is going to get lots of experience on this lich who's got great items already crystal ball is not one of those but now we also have the orb for the undead yeah good luck being able to afford a tiny here you have to buy orb then yet to get tc both very expensive let's see that pool here i haven't seen that pool very often if you can prevent the the script from using all of their spells i guess that's pretty good yeah i guess the magnetor doesn't use his frost bowl then interesting by the way one two three use the crystal ball saw perfectly the timing of this creep happening and so on is still committing to it what is there rushing across the map if he gets the steal here of the item and gets the other red camp that's almost game-winning but the item will go to so in the wyverns almost that of course he can never fight here he needs to speed school and boost out of here he's got one on the tc he's disengaging and now again he has zero speed scrolls which means he can't fight until he has that speed straw battle drums that's kind of bad yeah when you were gonna go for a kodo anyway he's getting totem behind this 1-0 like i really i'm impressed with him like in this matchup like the way it just like banks his mother then fights and gets out if he has to like i feel like if i was an undead i would just study this guy in how to play against orc all the time like it's so hard to catch every little decision every little micro bit that he does and how well he read the game from just watching the games one time i feel like it just has such a deep understanding of the matchup oh that color loss is gonna be painful and it might even be level three lich if he gets the kill oh the disaster continues for so and he's in a terrible position one two zero with a huge lead now could easily send out an acolyte would love to see him creep the red camp here and then send out an acolyte to expand there but at the moment he's on the chase it's hard to catch up to the orc army there is another speed scroll on show in these speed squad have been used purely defensively he wasn't able to take a fight once here so far and this is what happens oftentimes when you play this blademaster one base if you fall behind it's a very difficult strat you have to make sure your early game is on point your mid game is crisp your creeping is perfect and if that's not the case you're just getting bullied like we see here and i'm sure if hitman saw this game he would be saying that's what you get for playing faster headhunters all the time i love how that pian was like you can't see me like don't mind me i'm just going on the other side i think one two zero is one of the best map awareness like maybe of any player in the world from having played i can see on like conceal hill but like you know as human you expand and then you're trying to sneak in a couple creeps here and there eventually when your mk is out he's so oppressive like he'll just do what he just did here against sewing he'll just give up the camps not creep and then rush you first prevent you from creeping and then creep the camp that you were gonna do and then go back to crib jacking you on the other side where he knows you're gonna be going without necessarily having division how does there now enough keep looking very strong this lich is an absolute powerhouse feeling even confident enough to fight into the org main base potentially morphing the first destroyer we don't have banshees here which is the only thing that i don't like too much by one to zero in this game walker's out already but the destroyer is there ready for the dispel statue pulls back instantly did you see that preemptive frost armor so once the blade master shows up you can pull it back right away there wasn't a purge there so the statue does survive which is a big deal blademaster going in again the dark range control but there's in the proportion to keep her alive coyle flies in and the shadow hunter is quickly running out of mana once the shadowhunter is out of mana the fight is lost it's all about the mana on the healers and the dk has way more mana to use even though he is he uh kind of struggling oh he lands the big stone three hit points that was almost down tc getting targeted he used to drop the pair up and use the potion immediately after it does that in like an instant then targets the dk too many items one is there with the involved potions and health stone you also have death pack hero kill was the only option for so and he went for it didn't get it trying for the lich again but there's one more coil the last one by the way what saved the lich there was the circle that he bought at the shop in the late game which is kind of cool 1-0 playing perfectly on the edge and so and almost fought his way back here in this horrible game with some hero kill attempts but he's not gonna get it in the end and if you can commit so hard for the hero kills and you don't get him that means the fight is lost and the blademaster going down would be the final nail in the coffin he had lots of energy there i didn't even see that that's why he had quite a bit of damage but gg is going to be called so he loses map one and one to zero goes up with one o did you see one two zero dodge the the kodo eating his fins at the end like the first time with a burrow perfectly on time and second time by moving the fiends so ever so slightly super sick super clean game by one to zero he is perhaps the best undead versus orc in the world as this is definitely happy's weakness and stowen you're not in good enough shape to play blademaster i'm just telling you straight up so and if you play blade you're going to lose every game you have to play farseer and honor yeah actually i want to add to that i think so and you're really not that good with blade at all and you've never been so yeah just go back too fast your head into because okay i would not say that all right that was rude todd jesus hopefully yeah you started it bro someone doesn't see this beauty but yeah as i said blademaster you know it can be very strong style if you get to four four three levels with two bass with blademaster in the late game that's the strongest you can ever be it's way stronger than faster headhunter ultra late game but getting there is very hard you have to have a really clean early game a solid mid game and good late game creeping you cannot fall behind against one to zero otherwise it's just gonna devour you which is uh what pretty much happened there if the lich dies do you think that swing can win maybe but whatever had a big army he could have just revived him at the tavern i think the game would have still been over he would have a chance maybe but yeah it was he wasn't ahead by all means he wasn't like a game-winning snipe yeah the blademaster you know he was pretty strong they bought some some slippers and stuff he also bought the quel'thalas i just realized so he put a lot of gold into that inventory which is of course quite strong on a blade especially if it gets level four with a marketplace that's always doable now concealed hill is one of the worst maps for pimping a blade there's only one class plus six camp there's claus plus nine if you're lucky there's clause plus 12 if you're lucky but that's all very unlikely not so much dps for the blademaster available here this is in general a pretty poor uh [Music] blade one base map i would say so i'm certainly expecting a return to farseer 800 now for concealed hill it's one of the minute maps for farsi hunter as well lots of camps that you can creep very easily with that's like with all of the damage the fountains also like once you have like you know six seven editors kind of easy to do the center can't come into play a lot and usually that's for the orc if you're playing fast ahead until you're like kind of easy like to pull block and then creep so we'll see if that map awareness is here again here from one to zero it's not the biggest of maps but you have like you know multiple different avenues you still kind of need to be like on top of your scouting and build otherwise do we get like in full anticipation that this should be a faster head until almost certainly do we do we get a pass fin build this time around do you think or is it still ted fiends yeah i would love to see it but i think 120 just doesn't like the fast fiends he doesn't like the slow tech he doesn't like the late heroes it seems like he just prefers the low tempo fast tech style even if it's against foster headhunters would be my expectation here for map2 we're loading in concealed hill we have the undead one to zero in the lead the top right and so in the bottom left and it shall be again a ted fiend start and what are we gonna have from so in here if he plays farsi headhunter which i think he will he needs to apply a lot of pressure this weakness is definitely there for the ted fiend build you're only gonna have one fiend very late two fiends three fiends by the time you have the first fiend the orc already has three headhunters maybe even four so so he needs to capitalize on this he needs to creep more he needs to do a lot of damage he needs to snipe the skeletons quickly and really accelerate fast with a farcier get a quick level three and then play the mid game with the lead that you're supposed to have if you play he goes against each other he goes dark ranger second against seductors or not because i'm so happy to that a lot um he does not he goes let's second target a third i think dark ranger's second looked pretty good i mean i happy at least i was impressed with obviously when he did that so i thought it might become maybe the standard kind of like how yeah if you played against cripload expo before you'd always go dark rangers second to pressure the expo if you play dk yeah especially when you play fast fiends you have to play dark ranger because your tech is so much slower you have to catch up with the second hero and also with the dark ranger second you can creep very well because you get so many skeletons so quickly but uh here i think it's gonna be different one to zero normally wants to get the lich out he's gonna have the fast tech he's gonna have the faster attack so he can afford a bit of a later hero and he wants to have the lich level three late game to use the nova level 2 in the headhunters in the back apply silence on the tc and run with the ghouls into the novad headhunters and take him out quickly that seems to be his go-to late game that is strong but in the mid game is where this strategy has its weakness so it has to be aware of this and has to get a lead he's playing it faster on a build with a two-borough attack he's going very heavy tempo early on so so in must get a lead early but what is there is amazing at how much he can do with so little like when i saw him play against i think it was light's orc low-light off-raced how much he was able to do just with dk and two fiends and the lich was super amazing so we'll see how he's gonna do that this is gonna be hard to execute for one to zero but of course he is the best undead in asia so if one can do it it's him you know if the 4k5 in the lobby is actually far i'm guessing not but you never know i was told by demon who normally knows these things that's a fake vote yeah okay i figured i think he probably wouldn't be spotting the 4k tag like if he made an account and was around maybe like a an old school fan from what year did you follow uh walker 3 again uh pretty late i started following the german scene back then with was either esl tv or giga2 i don't quite remember it it was like 2005 or six okay so what's your top 500 players of all time from uh let's do phone first all right in the old days i used to love uh sk rain but that was honestly because i wanted to be kind of a hipster truly because everyone was a big fan of course of ted who was a legend and of hazuops who was a german legend and of exlord who was also a german legend so i wanted to be a little bit special i picked rain honestly wasn't that good he was pretty good but he wasn't sensational yeah i think the best like he was underrated i think the other best item by far is is happy i think it's like actually that's not so not so clear yeah happy is number one absolutely and then who who's second third fourth because you mentioned a lot of name but i want a proper ranking um all right happy one one two zero second and uh ted third and w of z fourth and fifth checky oh you know what cheshire is fourth and wz is fifth forgot about cheshire so x-lord not even in the top five huh i dude i mean it's so many units i keep them all i can't keep them all in mind you know if you because if you look at the if you look at the ladder if you look at the ladder todd you see all these undeads how can you keep track of all of them i'm not the biggest mikael fan to be honest like i wasn't around early when he was super successful and i think he's not on the same level honestly as one to zero and happy that's that's b do his job he's the big mikael fanboy i think for me it would be harder to rank the players because it's always like do you favorize these super old school guys that did well early on not the guys that do well now like you clearly for rank 182 went for the guys that do really well now but uh i feel like maybe i would tend to favor the old school guys personally like sometimes when i make those rankings myself yeah for undead there's been so many great ones historically like a mad frog in the early days buff in my opinion is one of the sickest also so some guys level three by the way to get the game a bit which is a strong power spike the wolves early on against only the low number of fiends are very effective but someone who's used a lot of mana right here and you can just leave it on the phone you don't get too much yeah if he gets the head on he's almost there he's gonna invest we denied it he was thinking about not coiling and just finishing the unit but then the risk is that it could get the knights instead of it for the coil and it did get denied so it was the worst of both worlds but the fire suit is almost out of mana the first has one more round of wolves and then he's gonna be dry for a long time and one to zero has honestly a pretty solid position so and didn't i would say get far enough ahead here considering the early bills the opening bills but the big strength of this nice and late game yeah shouldn't org be creeping here yeah i definitely think so especially with a tc second if you go shadowhunters second then you want to look for kills with hex but with tc you should definitely be creeping one to zero look at these saves fiends being pulled back well but the wolves are chasing and the wolves are faster than the fiends so it's uh two fiends gonna be going down four oh that's really bad two or three headhunters it's still my friend he isn't creeping and remember what does he want to transition into ghouls probably yeah so um using these fiends isn't that terrible i mean it's not great but tc isn't creeping and if you can prevent tc level 3 when you're going into ghouls it might very well be worth it yeah but he killed two fins and i think he only lost what one head hunter no i lost at least three oh okay he escaped with stone it does feel like the tc like yes he didn't creep in the first place but no he will still be creeping pretty fast because of wall's level 2 helping him out and having a decent amount of head onto her whereas like on the other side we got a dk or lich and one fin like how are you ever gonna creep like you have no physical damage and game sense wise this is the big difficulty for under in this matchup with this build knowing when to creep when to be aggressive like once you have tier three frenzy ghouls destroy your dark ranger then you want to fight that's clear but how aggressive do you want to be before that he's sticking around he's poking can't really find any kills anymore because again once there is playing this low tempo style he has hardly any units early on he lost some fiends but now tier three is finished and we have the big upgrades coming in once there has a century in the middle he's gonna see the camp being taken nothing he can do about that but the tc will not be level three by the time that we have the frenzy ghouls showing up it's funny how sewing has like no actual control of cc at all here because he went kodo and he went straight into aura so his damage is gonna be absurd he's about to have berserker upgrades gets khadgar oh my god it's actually pretty sick even though you're not going casters like just for the heroes eventually especially if you're going to try hero it's going to be amazing to be able to have that oh yeah there is no stomp yet finally he gets there because he gets level 2 but there is no radar behind it so it's just going to be the stomp to try and catch some of this stuff here would love to have a dark ranger here as well but he's pretty broke bringing three ghouls from the main could be bringing all five honestly he's got decent lumber what is there again poking delaying trying to prevent the tc from leveling up but the army if i wanted to isn't that scary he's going to add in the dark ranger now misses the coil but i wouldn't say that necessarily what is there is looking too scary if it was to come to a fight yeah i kind of like sony's position i mean it's much better than it was last game that's for sure last game was a bit of a disaster from his standpoint he goes for he went for plus one attack on the war mill and now that he has enough lumber i'm curious if maybe gets uh reinforced defense next just to be a little bit safer like obviously nowadays it's not one of those upgrades that like you have to get as soon as possible like the map awareness of everybody should be good enough you know to know when you're likely to be attacked let's say he was to be attacked now he can still town follow and defend on time for the burrows he goes to attack but the damage coming out of his head is very soon oh my god these items for someone are amazing cat guys and true shot do you think like you should ever go healing way first here or it has to be hex against ghouls honestly here wave might be decent like against fiends you definitely want to go hex because you can hero focus a lot you can fiend focus a lot but if there's ghouls running in you have to deal with the ghouls you cannot ignore the ghouls and hexing a ghoul or two doesn't make that big of a difference but here's going hex the upside with having this light game guru fancy build is it's much easier to protect your destroyers because the headhunters will have to run away they're going to be threatened by ghouls all the time the destroyers don't die so easily and also we don't have raiders normally it's ensnare plus berserkers which really destroys the destroyer if you excuse my pun someone is coming in for a base attack gonna take out two ghouls right away trade a tp and he got tc level three from that hoping that he can now creep the right hand side of the map one two zero took away the natural but the big red cap at the found is still available and what is it doesn't have the lich level three that's a big problem for him i think this dk may have been creeping a bit too much maybe the lit should have been prioritized more here with the leveling yeah he lost uh two goals and he was bringing out a bunch of the goals that he had with his army so now he had to like leave one behind to keep on mining lumber otherwise it's gonna run out it's gonna be really hard to keep on making units one two zero gets on top of this fountain creek first but the drake will be heading back and i think so in canada has to engage before the drake dies but he's a little bit hesitant one more ghoul goes down raw the meter is a great item to be given to the lich if he picks it up oh my god what's on the ground for a second making me sweat tc running in silence should be connecting here soon what is your patient with the engagement does not want to go in too early five ghouls it's not that many honestly two statues on the ground these could all be morphed theoretically as soon is the one that was very hesitant here but i think that's because he has the expo and he knows there is no expansion from his opponents car nova won the berserkers maybe getting the kodo would have been nice but he also could have been saved here with a healing wave there's always potential for a speed squad which actually is not there yet or i guess not in the inventory right now for uh so in big storm lands in the middle of the army and that was a great involved potion using it right away to break through the silence that is the move that might win him the fight right here hardly any ghouls left and the berserker dps is crazy dude plus eight on these berserkers lit's dropping low doesn't have involved oh no he does okay uses it which survives hex and stomp is so much hero focus in the late game that's the big advantage or the big strength i should say of this orc army in the late game stages one two three i think he missed his timing and he doesn't have a tp anymore which means the dk is getting cornered and killed and that calls for the gg and dk died with troll to be still there kind of weird wait not one two zero's game like everything was going wrong here starting with the early game fights where he wasn't able to get level three as early as he wanted yeah honestly that that one headhunter lasted that he didn't get in the main remember when he used the coil but didn't get the last hit that actually had a huge impact if he had gotten that he would have been level three faster and he probably would have lost only one fiend instead of two early there and that would have been could have been looking very different but yeah it's a hard strategy to execute this ted fiend build into frenzy ghouls very hard to get the timings right and also be able to slow down the opponent this time he made three fiends if he only makes two fiends maybe his tech is a bit faster maybe his friends google count is a bit better but of course if you only have two fiends also going to be harder to pressure the orc that's a big problem with the strat it's very hard to execute with a little with a few things that you have as the undead the way easier thing to do is play fast fiends i wanted zero doesn't want to do it wonder wants to stick to his style at least so far maybe he lost faith in it and sometimes it's just like you have a couple really rough game with a build and you're like oh that bill is not good anymore even though it's very hard to realize whether maybe you know you got unlucky you played bad and stuff do you just fully condemn the bill that maybe what have happened otherwise maybe just understands this game and match up on such a level that we're just not seeing it you know like maybe you understood that this build the bill that he's doing now is superior and uh just completely gave up on the other one but what do you make of both of these guys chances against chemical in the finals um wondersure is very good against human i think that's actually his best matchup and he was able to beat him before i think he would have decent chances there but chemical is also really good against undead i i really have no idea how good shimiko is right now against orc and so and against humans so i can't really speak to that but i think against undead against one to zero he would have a pretty good shot achieving's good i can talk where he plays really weird he had some games against lane to warm up before this and i think he did all right he likes to expand a lot i've also seen him play pally rifles in the past that's one of my favorite strategies and i know one that you love when it gets brought up by chad todd but the last two or three times i saw paddy rifles attempted it got kind of massacred so i think that one has sort of fallen out of favor we'll see what we get we're the one one score we're basically moving into best of three now these two players seem to be evenly matched our third map is going to be tidehunters where i think you know i'd hear keep talking about fast fiends but on tidehunters ted fiend opening is so good you can creep so many items so easily because there's lots of medium armor on the map which can easily creep with just dk and skelly's get a fast level up on the dk and tech quickly um so specifically on this map i think i would actually prefer the ted fiend style and i think here 1-0 should have an easier time as well with that build you think uh stuff like uh cripload expo is like completely done against orc especially if there is a chance of foster editor or is there a chance someone could try and make it work i think if you play faster if you play crypto expo into 500 you're giving the opportunity to the opponent to win the game if the orc plays it perfectly it's not really winnable in my opinion and we've seen that plenty the last couple of months when uh yeah the headliner numbers rise and you get up to like eight headhunters or something six seven eight headers the ghouls the beetles everything just dies you don't have aura and i don't really think it's winnable but we'll see what we get here let's go into map number three tight hunters it's gonna be a ted fiend opening again for one two zero which does not surprise me 100 really has become a lot more streamlined with his builds in the past he used to throw out wacky builds quite a bit sometimes crazy wacky bills as you certainly remember from the ting invitational but nowadays he's playing much more conservative and much more reliable it seems like he wants to play the bills that it will always work which is perhaps something that he got inspired by from happy yeah i think not long ago he was kind of struggling with sleep and he mentioned that in an interview and after he kind of managed to fix that for a little bit he went on a tear and started winning a lot and then he also had some recent games where he was just like what is he doing you know like it was like almost unrecognizable so it it feels like uh in terms of consistency most of the time one two zero is very good but he also has his own trials and tribulations here and there where he struggles a little more thank you by the way abstract with the 18-month resub 1-0 on this map i think goes green first creeping that one and then going for uh what's it called the sea giant wait is it cgi in a tight hunter anyways the orange outside domain to get the level 2 and get new rod necromancy you can get quite creative on this map you could also go to the middle right away and snipe one of the turtles at the green camp which is something i like to do if i play this build because the farseer almost always will want to creep both green camps in the middle pick up the two small items and get level two from that so if you steal that away the faster you can't get it but perhaps the priority has to be for the dk to first get level two because the level two power increase is definitely a lot higher for the dk than for the faster getting chain lightning is nice but uh getting i know the aura is game changing yeah we've seen actually like a lot of orcs starting to mix in a little bit of creeping here and there it's always like kind of up to them whether they want to do that or not like you know as an undead or as a human for myself you're always going to be creeping a little bit in the starts and it's very interesting how some of these orcs are like oh i want to take one or two camps in the center hope to get some good items for the falls here and also get towards level two and take those camps away and uh you kind of have to keep guessing like obviously in either case you're just gonna be creeping in the start and then it's all about windows that possibly finally show up and acolyte is in danger here but he could get coiled if need be he really waited until last second here i think he perhaps should have even denied that one because he had six acolytes as you can see there's still one left and the goal here for someone attacking is not to kill acolytes he knows one two zero is too good at microwave too good at juggling but again is never going to die he was trying to force mana out of the dk and he forced one coil but there's still two coils left and so and now trying to trade before the dk gets level two when the dk reaches level two the aura makes everything stronger everything faster everything region a bit more as well so sewing right now is playing the early advance of headhunters we see the first fiend is out and there's going to be three headhunters out against it already and this is one of the big advantages of fosi 800 it can just trade way better than everything else in the early game unless i guess there's a keeper interesting to realize that this silly phase in altar sieging is not exclusive exclusive to uh orc against human apparently hunters also have to endure that yeah once there is like let's say five to seven head enters that's when the orc is supposed to pull back and start creeping bigger camps and then like maybe do the shop in the center maybe do a small green first it seems like his content with just doing more damage for now gets the acrylic finally but it's not the biggest loss what if they're investing a coil a second coil would lead to the kill of that hunter but good blocked by sohan keeps his wait would it troll alive oh and it doesn't have one more hit and a coil yeah yeah it's not a few points i thought otherwise you would have dived like in one of those mobas we talked about the tower divers were you one of these remo oh hell yeah bro i was always the blink initiator like puck centaur slaughter um clockwork oh man i love clockwork i was always going in and saying fight fight fight i hated farming i also hated the laning stage like all this gathering gold is super boring let's just battle that was always my role so i always got the blink dagger and i told my boys to go to battle how about axe oh yeah axe is amazing love axe dude the dunk is the most satisfying spell in the game yeah for sure just so good boom out of there but i always use it too early so oh did you still play because there was a patch at some point for dota 2 where when you got a kill with the old it would refresh the cooldown so it wouldn't have a cooldown if you got the kill oh yeah i saw that yeah at some point but i haven't been playing much dota like i tried to do some games with my friends uh not long ago and then there was so many smurfs like literally every game there was a clear smurf in the middle absolutely destroying us so i think but i think they took new measures to try and prevent smurfs because they were kind of ruining the game with like the account leveling and boosting and stuff i don't know if you've seen about that yeah yeah definitely there's quite a bit of cancer in the dota community like the difference of having a full five-man stack versus solo queuing is crazy there's just so many salty annoying people there but yeah so you know once you have four five six head hunters you can pretty much creep anything and he's creeping fast right now it's the level three gotta scroll the beast which can be very good to use in a big fight although probably he would have rather preferred big healing big mana potion especially for the tc who is again the second hero of choice glitch comes out one of them has to find kills oh head on is lining up perfectly for anova there for just a moment speed scroll though use easy disengage didn't hit one of the thunders that one goes down and so and i think his scouting that could have been a little bit better if he had sent wolves ahead because you know the lips coming out at that time and he already got level three perhaps should have fallen back a little bit faster he almost got to deny that hadn't that would have been nice but unfortunately does not quite get it are you one of those guys that often visited the low priority be honest quite a bit not for flaming but for leaving the game that always annoyed me so much that you couldn't leave the game and you couldn't surrender you always had to wait until your altar died in dota 2 and sometimes people just don't want to finish the game and you're just sitting there wasting your time and you know i do get emotional every now and then in games especially when i lose which is something that perhaps you might be familiar with so yeah i was in low prior a decent amount i have no idea what you're talking i answer about much i think when people bait me like uh or people like are flaming which is a lot in mobas i'm never initiating myself but if someone starts talking crap then i'll answer and get sent there too like yesterday i was playing paladin and he was dude i saw that he was flaming and then at first i wasn't saying anything but eventually i was like oh i could just get out of my game yeah classic paladin he's uh he's a character yeah i never engage in that at all i just go uh mute instantly instantly like i don't want to hear your this time by the way it was the two fiends into tech one fiend did go down but a lot of gold was saved by one to zero going quicker into more frenzy ghouls he's gonna creep the big camp at the lab this tp was used very wisely by the way he stole camps away from the enemy side and he forced the tc to come back slowing down his creeping a little bit gets back to the main with the tp picks up the orb takes out a big camp and this game plan here seems to be coming together quite nicely where we have for so in a stupidly greedy expansion 40 supply tiny great hall without even a third hero and one two zero could very well win the game right here with the next push only thing that's an issue for him is he doesn't have too much mana on the dk but the lich is a house and so he needs to heal super fast here whilst you're finally catching up with the rest of the army atlanta horn is nice but he doesn't have any survivability item there is no uh involved so yeah he buys the potion here knowing that he's probably gonna have to fight very soon that's like shield could not have been good as well like if the tc makes it to the middle of the army and he uses that but there is that one destroyer in the previous game we saw destroyers dying very quickly because there was an absurd amount of head enters with plus two attack but this time there is less even though they're they're in decent amounts here yeah with this expansion honestly soon exposed himself to a somewhat early tier three fight the big advantage of headhunters is when you get to 60 supply maybe even 70 the dps is crazy but at the moment they head on an amount only in quotes at seven not that high yet the first stomp might decide the game pulling back the ghouls delaying the silence one to zero again very patient with the beginning of the engagement trying to pull the orc into a worse position hits with anova now engages we have assigned to the tc and no involved to break out of it very good start of the fight for one two zero but he knows the science is wearing off and he's playing around the cooldowns look at that you know the science is over he's gonna back up he got some kills but he doesn't want to overextend the patience here wonderful to see from the undead he pulls the red what with ghouls i mean you know something i don't but i feel like this is not something that should go really well the the granada finally goes for the stump and so it's right in there it catches the statue immediately what to zero what are you doing i said you got caught was the statue doing there i didn't even see it must have been miss rally what is it once you get the level three lich he gets it here but getting that rock column that granite golem i should say by the way such a cool touch by the map maker to make it green fits the map perfectly okay speaking of pathing granite what are you doing but so and did he expose running and looked greedy but it might be working out here in the end one two zero looking to be in more and more trouble he does have 50 supply but so in has more so careful with the ghouls but even without a stomp just with the right clicks one more glue goes down traded for a berserker and they cost almost the same amount of gold which is quite interesting and of course with the expansion of here so and is uh able to be way more efficient 1-0 now makes the fifth cigarette so you can't even go into upkeep yet it's so tricky like whoever overextends here in the fight is gonna lose and they both know that so it's gonna you have to stay neutral and wait but one two three is trying to falsify i think he's feeling the pressure of that expo of sewing he's like i need to force a bad fight out of you now finally pull the golem that force sewing to engage activates burst he's taking a lot of damage black ranger doesn't have black arrow turned on that's a big mistake by one two zero the first big mistake in this fight going for the dk now stomp misses nice dispel into invo potion great play here by one two zero he's executing this fight wonderfully the only one mistake is that he doesn't have black arrow turned on something that can sometimes that can slip your mind and the item in the end goes to so and he's going to get the clock of flames great against the ghouls gets one more berserker hex again dk in trouble once more and he gets stomped and that's the end dk goes down first hero dead and that should be a game koto walking forward doesn't get off the devourer and 100 now about to lose everything if he had black arrow turned on earlier this could have perhaps been looking different but he does have lots of gold he didn't spend too much he can go for a tavern revive but he doesn't look fight ready and so and just keeps on mining yeah really weird that he forgot about that i think one two zero understands the urgency of the situation he's not gonna remake dk from the altar and then sit back and play slow it just instantly re-buys and if you can get a super high level try heroes here you always have a chance so i think he's just gonna reason creeping a bunch maybe try to creep the entire bottom side of the map and then maybe expand himself behind this you know if you have a dk-5 in a dream anything can happen if the dark ranger gets three and the light gets level four and perhaps dk5 it's crazy strong levels for the under the shadow are still only level one healing is a big problem for sowing he's trying to come in for the creep jack dk way far up in front oh he might be dead again invo potion once more used to dodge the stump also use a dispel there tc the first stomp kind of landed in nowhere and tc only has one more stomp left he has to be put towards the back he does have death pack to be fair and this was a favorable exchange for one two zero the game's not over yet shadow is finally getting level two now has he a wave but only level one heal wave there's up to three destroyers now so it's almost like this weird scenario where the berserker account is very low we have only three of them now and they can get targeted down very quickly so if he takes those outs those detroiters are going to be pretty damn good like against whatever is left over like he makes sure that there is never going to be walls coming into play as well he can dispel the hex knock ranger three that's the big level up and the lich is closer yes mana for the silence importantly tc has two stumps ready again bad position for sewin he did rebuy a tp which he's probably gonna have to use not gonna snipe the kodo just one berserker is going to get a bit more experience once they are playing this game super well and here we go lich level 4 and now he has dark ritual to eat a lot of skellies and he can do that murloc camp here and then compete for the turtle down there you know maybe the plan this murder cam by the way is very deceiving like obviously he's gonna do it easily now but sometimes i always feel like i can do it in the earlier in the game actually a really hard game to do oh he gets the book of the dead against no spirit walkers oh that's super good and the heat wave misses cold nova takes out first one right away tc running in but remember he doesn't have involved so the silence would always land and there it is again he can't break out of him and so in fighting into this undead army who was already reaching the high levels i feel like he's perhaps being a bit too aggressive what is there something's the book of the dead coil a little bit too late destroyer goes down but so many units on the ground tc using the stomp only against the skellies only against the summons and the undead heroes are starting to take real control the clock of flames helping tremendously as well with a little bit of extra damage if you could just get rid of those destroyers here and obviously there is a third stat you know even behind and yes so in soon it counts like as supply-wise he said explode the entire game but he's never really been far ahead because every time they fight the trades go better for one to zero and the way he applies pressure he's not even by fighting he just keeps pulling camps and he's like you've gotta fight me even though you don't want to or i'm gonna take a camp and get further ahead it's like genius play yeah as far as late game execution here goes once they're definitely looking better so in he also seems very unsure of what he's exactly supposed to do like he's trying to contest the creeping but it didn't result in him actually preventing the levels so perhaps he would have been better off just creeping himself safely on his side but that opportunity is now gone when the story gets taken out dk finds the big mana potion which is the best thing he could have hoped for and now again the berserkers lined up for the no but connects right away silence again on the tc and he doesn't have that involved or the spell to ever break out of it shadowhunter in trouble getting focused dropping low might be close to dying dk pulled back again stomp is ready when's it going to land it's only going to be on the heroes and all in the dk not too many units for 1-0 but the destroyers are just not dropping and now i realize what someone is missing which is raiders where the raiders for the end still he doesn't have any with that the destroyers would have much tougher time and the stomp again misses all the heroes perfect control by one to throw this bell saves the lich the dark ranger in trouble but she will survive again there's going to be another coil ready soon the damage for sohan is still sick with all these head hunters oh tc connects with a stomp because he dispelled his own eats the skelly with a death pack uses the coil 1-0 falling back so it might still be doing it in the end with just a superior income tc has one more stomp ready the lich in trouble oh and this might be the end not yet though he's got the mana potion he used it one more coil coming in tc almost out of mana berserkers not quite getting the kill in the destroyer that one just barely gets away lich can eat another skeleton soon there it is has one more nova gets another kill this has been a crazy back and forth one two three taking control again that mana potion making all the difference in the world yeah on both sides actually even the shadow interior was out of mana i used a greater mana tc being targeted he has a push and he's gonna use that there is a heal wave to help out here but one two zero can just disengage as you say there is no raiders the statues they were oh my god they're going the wrong way they were kind of isolated on the other side he's gonna speed scroll to get one of them that's fossil level five around the corner if you can kill that one here and he's gonna be able to oh and these inverse wolves are going to cause quite some issues what is there though makes it to the shop and gets the inval potion crucial but so in still with the way bigger army and now he's going to be able to get back to the shop and apply those clarities he has the 543 hero levels very strong now the only thing he's missing is tc5 one two zero has to keep on killing units has to keep on being more cost efficient it's one more five on his uh legion dk by the way which would be just an absurd level to gain here he keeps messing statues and destroys on one slaughterhouse yeah ghouls destroyers very high pace strategy very execution based but also very fun if you make it if you make it work out well trying to get that level five now dk is super close there's one more green camp over there oh well only one murloc actually looking at the market because he can have some claws in there pkxp still a bit of xp yeah if he snipes one berserker that should be enough the tc is fairly tanky that's a lot of elementors goodness with plus three attack they got triple aura they got devotion endurance and wardrobes and raider on the way now definitely for at least one ammo upgrade by the way like this single arm upgrade makes such a big difference the dk gets level five got a bit more skeletons as well slippers for the dark ranger not bad and the lich almost level five invis wolves scouting everything coronova easy snipes now of the dk though getting focused right away silence on the tc can't break out of it once again there's an involved potion on the death knight the destroyer is going down very quick finally we have a raider fight snare and that is going to have either destroyers going down much more quickly now what does it have to do with this raider it was very sick to hex first by the way because if he dispelled uh like he put the tc next to the dk and he silenced it oh my god the lich glitch oh that he'll scroll oh my god just barely keeping that one alive legit level five and that is a crazy strong level up now against these berserkers they're all clumped up all clumped up for the next nova science mates he can't use the storm hex on the death knight he's in trouble involved potion dodges the stomp again for the fourth time this game one two zero out playing so in here but can he outplay the expansion is the question wolf summoned again the army four to zero basically all gone death knight super low if he gets hexed here that should be the kill misses the stomp again has to go for this mission might be going down reveal oh my god 10 hp are you kidding me absolutely crazy game between these two wanteds are doing everything to stay alive but it's damn hard one more berserker goes down tc has one more stomp the second one soon after the chinese who didn't even escape man jesus christ dude by the way this game is so hard to execute for one two zero there is so many clutch plays in this he could have died so many times by now this gets caught raider taken out there's a second raider playing from range the raiders of course die quickly he wave now coming in shadowhunter out of mana no hex no he wave anymore and now once they're starting to either goes the main is about to expire by the way only 1k left it's one of those games where he's gonna lean i think he's just gonna bring the acolyte statues i kind of left behind very often as he's trying to die for that one raider and make sure making sure there's no more cc one more coil will land slitch and dark ranger mostly aromata dk moves close to the tc he has to be careful he now finally has the emo potion that could be a crucial pop to get out of the silence but the dark rangers mana is very low if she gets level five by the way we're gonna have some crazy skellies here on the field call flies lich has one more nova in a second and with these hero levels these bursters are dying quick stomp connects is he going for the dk there's the stars in the air against the hacks that's what he's waiting for one destroyer does go down dark ranger caught in a bad position and that might be the kill hex on the death knight dark ranger goes down one two zero trying to retreat a little bit there's still a decent amount of mana here tc with the stump he's gonna go for the dk and i think he's gonna get it finally suing gets the snipe that he had been looking for the whole game and one two three is forced out of the game after battling like a lion even though he was wounded early on sick game great play by one two zero being so far behind for so long but with hex ensnare and stomp and berserkers the single target potential for orc is just so crazy and once zero here dies to it in the end that expansion i'm really surprised it worked out so greedy 40 supply tiny great hall that could have been his end but you know he rolls the dice it works out for him and so and gets the win on tighthunters gets the lead in the series yeah the execution was great i was gonna mention like he was hexing the dk as he was moving in and then he was moving the torrent shift 10 immediately next to the dk so the undead has to silence the tc and then if you want to dispel the hex you also dispel the silence on the tc so while you might be able to do that and then involve immediately after like in one of the latest fights one two zeros just said i'm gonna write this out you're gonna be silenced i'm gonna be hexed yes you can attack the dk but you're not gonna be able to stomp it because as silence finishes the hex will also finish and then i can use the involved it was really really nicely executed actually our fourth map is going to be echo and i think this is going to be 1 to 0's best map so far maybe this is a great map for fast fiends but 1-0 doesn't play it this is also a really good map for crypt lord fast expansion but farsi is very strong against that with headhunters now i saw 120 play a super weird build here against lolite he played fast fiends into tier one expansion which is something i've never seen before and it did work out there it was two base two base super late game lots of options for one two zero sowwin is definitely going to play farsi eight hundreds blademaster one base is super bad on echo isles because there's not enough creeps you don't think there is some chance for a blind master here on their hell no zero percent really it's bad it's really bad people get get caught up uh on the claws the claws aren't that important it's more important to get big camps with the tc especially and to be able to uh accelerate with lots of experience late game camps on echo there's no big camps bro it's a garbage map exactly it's a trash map it's way too small and orc triple hero with a blademaster at least needs lots of creeps i wish some tournaments would try using the new echo oil that was made you started one right yep it's definitely a much better version but the weird thing is that we have that one you know we have we have the normal echo isles on uh on wall three champions and on netties and yeah that's a strange precedent i still prefer having new maps rather than uh the old ones improved you don't think remastering some maps can also be good um i mean i know we had a bad experience with a recent remaster but that doesn't mean some maps couldn't be good if they remain i mean look at terenas they improved it it was still one of the most important and vetoed maps but yeah the the changes surely improved the map um [Music] at some point i would be fine with that but i think first we should kick out a z and echo which are way too simple way too straightforward and pretty dumb in some regards kick out those two get in two new ones and then maybe we can look towards remastering improving some old ones especially how do you like the shadow grave i think it's a pretty good map mostly i think it has some issues like the merchant is way too easy to snipe the item the red camp is i think too easy to snipe and the middle is too empty i've been actually talking with the map makers about changing it we want to flip around some creep camps to face towards the middle to make it not so empty but i think in general it's a pretty good map especially visually it's beautiful yeah yeah i like this kind of theme but it's it's so weird the red camps because it's like so open you know you kind of use like when you're going to a red camp i feel like most of them they're like kind of enclosed areas but i feel like the one in the bottom left and top right are for sure more accessible which maybe is a good thing as well yeah and i went to zero with the same build here and so is the case for sewing we're not gonna be seeing the blade master on echo we're gonna have to wait for some hitman games to see more blademaster play hitman would veto echo outs probably it's uh definitely not very good for the blade yeah for a best of five that would be the worst map you think for him what else do we have oh amazonia is also pretty rough although amazonia is good for fuzzy 800 yeah i guess it just really depends on what style you want to play at the end of the day first you're gonna be aggressive here right out the gate once again it's the same builds and show you if this is better than tight hunters for one two zero or not starting with a fast attack again being a bit greedy not going for the narrow brighter way and since there's no narrow these wolves can start doing some good damage on the wolves and on this echids i mean ideally want to zero one to juggle the arc lights perfectly not having to use coils he's trying to preserve his mana the coiling the crips pretty good so far i'd say eric tower 70 would you deny the acolytes like you said in last game you thought it would be a good move but what if you deny it and then you lose an acolyte you just ragequit and go back to low priority like in dota or what dude thank god there's no no priority on what three champions for eight questions would be alone all day dude i would be there all the time you don't blame me more carefully do you uh no i don't i don't flame and i don't i don't know if you said lame or flame i don't flame no but i don't know either i ragequit all the time without gg but i guess that's not really um when i left the game without gg like neil was like then no it's core caster does it you hypocrites okay if i play tournament games i always gg because there's something official you know but if i'm just laddering i just want to be left alone i don't even want to talk to you okay just want to play and i i get upset i don't want to have to do anything to do with it dude i am at this point now if some people play me on ladder and i always say gl jeff at the beginning because you know i do want to be civil and friendly i just get i just get upset when i lose and that's when i don't gg you okay but anyways uh when i play against people and i say glhf some of them start saying why do you say glhf uh when you don't see zgd in the end which i think you know is something completely different at this point when they type this i just do exclamation mute f in the muted forever i'm here to play okay i'm not here to chat i don't want to hear from you i just want to play so you never reply to like casual chats um basically not i guess you play on a smurf right like if you would play on remo demo i'm sure like people will talk to you all the time yeah which is a big reason why i play on a smurf yeah but also there like rarely i play on remo demo and then i also i just don't chat i don't i'm not trying to be unfriendly guys i just i don't want to talk i want to play okay i'm going to try it that's ladder boy okay and this time it's a dark ranger second by the way yeah hopefully it doesn't forget to turn on black arrow there it is give me that skelly who's gonna get another one coming he wasn't expecting this it should be at least two head on his going down maybe even a third that's pretty bad and this is a horrible beginning for sohan like he's playing headhunter build into ted fiends he's supposed to get level three fast and then play with the lead he's not even level two what happened todd we're talking about our ladder antics and suddenly yeah sounds like a terrible spot absolutely horrible actually someone in the chat said yo remo you are here to cast the game not talk about your letter games smile what do you have to say about this i wish i could mute him in the chat like i cannot watch with champions [Laughter] does this guy not deserve 10 minutes to reconsider his atrocious behavior on the street he's not even sub to god damn now that's fine i get that you know sometimes people mess around a bit too much and there's a big game going on i understand that but you know i think there's always a balance to be struck where we can talk about some personal stuff and still talk about the game yeah you know i know there's always like there's always the people are like very chill about watching uh tournaments and like they'll appreciate the stories but there's also like the super hardcore guys they're like talk about the game just mention everything you didn't mention he dropped the period here like it's like come on you know like this happens all the time that there's comments like this and you can see it for yourself anyway so yeah that's why i kind of love like open qualifiers close qualifiers because everyone agrees that it's you know it's just a qualifier you can around and then you can just do what you want speaking of which by the way on the weekend which is tomorrow we're gonna have asia closed qualifier which i'm gonna do um starting at 1 pm cest i'm also going to have europe qualifier tomorrow and america qualifier all those qualifiers happening for dreamhack fall august is soon gonna drop another greedy uh tiny greats i think maybe it depends like where you're at in the game it's not a thing that you do every time but sometimes you just get a feeling in the game you're like oh yeah i think if i would do this now maybe it would work out and you just go for it i think this time it would be suicidal he lost a couple of head hunters he didn't get anything of value in return he lost the big camp in the middle he doesn't have fast year three yet and once they're against senior camp away and again he's ready to tactically tp out this would be a smart tp to just leave right now so he wastes a lot of time look how much time he wasted the tc came up here to just force the other way and what's he gonna get for it one trapper and that tp isn't just a safety option sometimes but also it can be used tactically like we saw right there one of those items by the way pretty bad double ring and wand no circlet no claws he's gonna creep the big renegade camp now but having a level 3 dark ranger early is super good against headhunters those level 2 skelly is going to make a big difference but the lich of course is going to be a little under level yeah this time sewing didn't go for the 40 supply tiny great but he having forced the town for all time i made him confident that might make him confident to still go for that in a second because he's doing like one of the last actually i wonder maybe he should have saved that camp or the shadowhunter to get his straight to level two but instead still leveling the tc i guess endurance level two also can come in really handy and let's see he has i still spending his gold on units gets uh sals and uh speed scroll which the gold was increased on that recently do you think that was sufficient for you uh yeah i mean it's still super powerful but it has a long cooldown you know it was a big increase from 50 to 70 i think that's fine you know like do you have a problem sometimes if people complain about balance about something you completely disagree with and you really want to say something i kind of had that when the vtr was announced because on dust discord pride was running a bunch about this the speed scroll change it was like oh that gold increase is like so terrible orc really needs to buy multiple speed scrolls to even be competitive and keep up with the other races i was reading that yeah it's i mean it's like it's hilarious building inside of me it's hilarious how biased some people are like i remember star-shaped in this balance talk that we had it was so ridiculous just because of the uh okay we're talking about that later because we're gonna have a big fight here glitches out has the nova ready going for the tc right away he knows there's no heel wave to heal him up he's he doesn't have anymore potion because one two zero stole it before gonna transfer it now to the dk who was dropping low in fact very low long range coil tc almost goes down but he survives quarter beast gets over devoured but it's gonna be taken out the hero the dk is still low hb but one two zero gets the favorable exchange here tc superherd can't fight right now and there's still the invo potion available for the undead but the glitch is very under leveled very low hp that is the weakness here if i wanted to he's pushing forward that cutter was in the middle of the army and he still tried to eat a fiend that was me leaning in for a case with the perfect ten i met at the club that was the same chance of success do you know uh paymoney wobby's youtube channel when he was doing this video from this uh asian woman doing these strange videos on youtube and there was always this song playing baby i'm a perfect 10. that's very obscure you're probably done with it sounds fun very funny getting back to star shape by the way he said uh the mountain giants getting nerfed means that night off is completely unplayable from this point on which was so damn ridiculous and guess what he switched to orc and now he's back to night off because what he said didn't wasn't going to matter which was the bear buff turned out that was pretty sick actually lynch almost going down but he gets saved once again kota coming forward gets over devour one fiend goes down and someone is turning this fight around he's got all that damage now dark range in trouble again waiting for the coil next stomp he's delaying it wayne take the perfect one right there theme dying again the dust is still revealing these fiends and one two zero having the darkwing to level three i gotta say focusing these heroes so much i'm not sure if it's the right choice if he just focused the berserkers instead he could have perhaps built a big army of skeletons here oh the tc keeps getting caught from afar and there's still a hill wave here because shadowhunter is only level one so tc cannot quite win i think okay transfer the tp kodo finally got his kiss and ate to finn but that's gonna be fried she broke up immediately after remo that gets dropped out i like the move of transferring tp trying to go for one last stone but i think he kind of panicked and then just got out of there and now sewing is gonna have to i guess heal up for a little bit there is a big opportunity for one two zero two maybe by town polo and then contest the orange camp at the bottom so i'm curious what he's gonna do here he might just run to his side of the map and creep there let's see if he gets the thunderbolt yeah once there's a good position it seemed like someone almost fought his way back there with a couple of fiend kills but he was forced away and the levels are the problem here for sowen him never getting level three farsier that is the biggest problem it also showed on a very over level way out of position no heel wave remember kolnova could just be his end silence wasn't really necessary a little mistake that i want to do that means the tc stomp is going to connect the dust is still active the fiend is taken out one more thing might be following next oh the coil comes in too late that also a bit of a blunder by one two zero the dust is still active next fiend goes down tc is level four has the healing potion by the way dark ranger dropping low coil flies and that means the light is exposed now but he does have the info potion would have loved to use a hex there as well but of course the shadowhunter was dead already with the black arrow level two statues they're always active uh healing giving mana and that one of them is attacking i guess if everything's already rejecting properly and another town fall is gonna be forced there's still that one finned inside of the kodo belly it's going to be a bit of extra experience but no big levels around the corner and they're just trading a ton of units for a ton of minutes but that shadow enter dying here really sucks even though he was only level one yeah levels are the big problem here for so and and that's the typical story of echo oils there's just not many creeps to go around and if you lose map control you can easily get bullied it all comes down to this early game where the farsier was aggressive for way too long not even getting level two for such a long time and as you mentioned earlier getting totally caught off guard by this dark ranger losing the headhunters he was expecting a lich timing i suppose and now one to zero is going to get darker to level four which science level two is not you know the craziest upgrade of all time but if you hit it on two heroes a double silence with a bigger aoe it can also make a big difference yeah one two zero is using his advantage beautifully here by just banking those involves i think like two of them and the dk is the one that doesn't have one but he has two rings four plus six armor he has standpoint to be able to get out let's see the micro like it seems like there is no presets thing like for one two zero whether you attack heroes or units it's just about how the fight's set up it's a question that i always got asked on the stream as well it's like what do you want to attack in the fights and i'm always like you do attack move and then you see what's you know in position for you to do the most damage to i feel like from one to zero is the same like he attacks moves if the tc is going in like crazy you silence him which usually is supposed to be coming in and then you start targeting him to push him back but then once he's back then you attack the units it depends on the position you're in normally you want to target uh what's in range of your whole army so you don't want to target something that's in the back so your army has to run and you need to kite in the meantime and of course with united you always have to target fire you can't just uh a click because you also need to attack everything with that orb but monster has the a-bomb now and the z-scout could be quite impactful he's not researching it surprisingly 1-0 being somewhat greedy sitting at 50 supply going at the corner wants to creep the last big camp of the map he's willing to tp out here if he gets jacked but also getting out of skeletons which are quite the big help in these fights the dark ranger is the hero that has the most xp out of one any of one to zero's heroes it's kind of crazy that went down is wonderful they're gonna fight here now or is he gonna back up might be a wise tp tc is invis comes in with a stomp right away this one connects well berserk activated on these berserkers takes on one fiend right away and the second one swiftly after oh oh he grabs the album that's a big deal because i don't think he can quite nuke the kodo perfectly here as this is the real danger deep why is he not tipping yeah 100 playing with fire right here destroyer also very close to dying death knight now getting focused destroyed he needs to come in for the dispel the hex might still be his end though the chain lightning where is it did you strain lighting already that's dropping low as well but the spells are on cooldown lich does survive i think shane lighting usually wait until you're sure that he's gonna kill something but i like the decision of suing like he realized that the dk was never gonna die anyway so he was like oh i know you're going to tp so he immediately started started targeting other stuff so he got the destroyer and then he kind of threatened one of the heroes the lich in this case look some great decision making and now that's sewing did really well in this fight it might be a good time to pull back buy a tiny and then drop it on the expo and start mining from there and then you just don't let undead get their own expansion much like we saw in the previous game i wanted zero had so much gold he's going into upkeep now it's easily gonna get up to 60 supply maybe even 70. he's got two upgrades on the fiends and he can get more skeletons here so and if he goes for a tiny i think that would be his death sentence he's still in trouble the shadowhunter is still under leveled yeah i think what is going to say hello with 60 supply and he's going win that's what i think i guess plus three editors come on bro dude there isn't a bomb in the indicator set of three okay so he has to involve this time by the way one on the faster one on the tc gonna be using one of those pretty early doesn't quite dodge the coil this is so great by one two zero he car nova as the tc puts it low and then starts running away and the tc he hasn't landed a single relevant stomp here yet every time he moves in that gets fully negated gets targeted again there is no temple to transfer this is going to go down big storm though coming in going for the lich the emo potion which was preserved earlier saves him there coyle flies in tc goes down one to zero knowing exactly the weakness of this orc army which is the tc doesn't have too many items and he doesn't have them to heal wave has the death pact to be safe heals up and that is the win of the fight for one to zero like all the smart casters knew right away peppa oh the album it's gonna set the album free just before the digestion has been completed back without this is dude how do people not get these this cloud this drives me nuts and that's it one to zero with the equalizer what a crazy series yeah great game that the two are showing us here we're gonna go up to the last map to decide this one one two zero comes in with a surprise on tier two the dark ranger that sawin wasn't expecting and losing that helmet those headhunters hurts but really it was the faster being so underleveled which lost him the game he was unleveled that whole time i think 1-0 botched the fight in the bottom right a little bit remember when he started losing those fiends before he forced the tp out of the tc but still good play by one to zero and also he did something here which he didn't do at all this series which is a micro detail that you sometimes get used to wanted didn't focus the tc at all in the previous games and now he started doing it which is perhaps something that so and didn't expect too much for example there were some occasions where the tc was running in popped the involved but he was afraid so he ran back again and didn't use the stomp which perhaps he could have done a bit better but yeah so who do you favor going into map five then i already favor anybody here i think this is a super close contest last refuge though is a very good map for fosse headhunters and not very easy for ted fiends dk lich so strategically and map wise i would favor sewin but what does there might just be in full gear right now and be ready to close this out yeah the dark ranger worked out pretty well that last game maybe it's something that he goes back into again maybe it's one of those things where there is also no presets you know he waits until he sees how the game's going and then if somehow the orc is getting a little over eager and he's on his side of the map he's like all right you've moved too far out it's time to punish you usually at this time there won't always be a speech call either which makes it so much easier like if you get on top of these head hunters you can really kill two three which changes the whole outlook on the game for sure a banger of a series here now second semi-final the first semi was very clearly taken by chemical but between one to zero and so on it's going back and forth all finalists will be determined after last refuge this by the way is a great map for fast fiends but i don't think that's something that what is there even considers not something he wants to hear he's probably going to stick with his standard opening and maybe throw in the dark ranger second again that is the one deviation perhaps that might occur interesting to note by the way in the top four two humans one and dead in an orc so perhaps the mountain giant nerf really did make night elves unplayable and starship was right he rarely ever is though so i doubt it let's go in the deciding map last refuge and cut my legs off and call me shorty todd we have a ghoul opening by one two zero criplord you think it could be or it could be the happy style that he doesn't play anymore but he used to dk ghouls get level 2 fast and surround all the headhunters and going to the same late game with destroyers and ghouls and triple hero but just not starting off with fiends but rather with ghouls which is a very fun style if you get a couple of ghouls and dk level 2 surrounding headhunters must not be too hard because of course the shop is skipped for the orc for a long time we're not gonna have speed scrolls for a very long while what is this color by one two zero like this guy's killing me i got the bug where it says like player one and player two so i have to manually type in the names and pick a color and like i'm trying to find diarrhea over here like i don't know yeah red was unfortunately taken uh ted asked for it but now we have this color which i i don't know what this is called peanut maybe peanuts color names so he's crazy he's playing crypt lord on the last map i saw sewan vs mikhail yesterday i don't know if you saw that game and mikhail played exactly this build and he got devastated zero chance it means that 120 saw that game and he was like oh if he would just do this and this then he would just absolutely destroy him so he saw a clear pathway to victory from seeing that game and i guess we're gonna be seeing the difference do you remember exactly how miguel played it like the creep routes yeah mika went to the green he was considering going over to the expansion but the farsi showed up with the wolves and just kept on poking kept on not allowing the lord to creep up at all at some point he ran across the map during night time tried to creep on the enemy side but he was followed and he was prevented and mika was just completely unleveled that whole game and had no chance and it's no sacrificial skull yet by the way but the shop is right there ontario could still go for it expo yes or no is the big question here that we ask ourselves and also zohan is asking himself a lot of ghouls here are very hurt already by the way which is a little weird but apparently intentional so once there wants to keep full hp on the crypt board we denies the acolyte yeah it's tower 70 again it's faster we'll get the first bit of experience from the one beetle there and i guess 120 probably builds up his cool count a little bit maybe he can do the murder camp to get some more skellies and beetles and then he tries to go for the expand after that i think you just do it now this is enough if you take the murlocs it's also gonna ferry over more headhunters oh sniping the akai would be a great play under zero probably has to remake one or two more acolytes already and the wolves say hello to the creeps ends they're on the acolyte that's something that especially human players are very familiar with yeah usually that's from illusions mostly though but that makes like this really scary can you get the wolf level two around the corner oh someone that's so annoying why is this firesteer and headliners over here there was some units that were chasing him and i think he got a little too scared and he moved too far out so now there's an easy creep on the expo for one to zero this was way too easy for one to zero so and kind of messing up this early game i think maybe that's what one two zero saw when he watched sewing against mikhail he was like oh if you just split your units like this you have too many units pal thinking about it he's thinking about it oh got him if the criminal gets level three things are gonna get really tough impale i'm not sure if he gets imagine if he gets defaults around here but he only gets the one that's the dead head and he's almost three it's slipping away it's slipping away from sewing and that's the next one and it gets caught i mean you can just go for any green camp now and get an easy level three and he's gonna have beetles too against the fossil level one with barely any experience yeah so he needed to be there in position to harass at the creeping of the expansion maybe see the last hit but at least kill one or two ghouls big mess up in this early game by sewing this is the the most one-sided game we've had so far one two zero clutching it out in the end like he has so many times before guess level three and a replenishment potion which is absolutely amazing and you have uh taken a bunch of damage like this fire lord is he gonna tell rush yeah he's going all in oh wait is he getting a beast area then double b's three alright it's just the razor man build but i can send it it's going to take a long time until these wyvern are out actually though so so it has to keep up the pressure right now prevent one to zero from creeping the merc camp if 1-0 gets the merc and gets the berserker and shadow priest these wyverns are gonna fail but he has two headphones only what's you know impeding the fire lord nice block he's being really greedy trying to surround stuff without the impulse but to be honest he's landed so many of them by now yeah can i get to the lava spot as well no splitting for you you will remain lonely just like me [Music] head interests are going extinct in this game yeah and this is sometimes where it can look like if you slip up early and you lose control and a couple of headers go down but that's not the way it's supposed to be here's the impale into the surround that we were waiting for and that's the fire lord dead that crypto is gonna get four pretty damn fast at this rate if he keeps on killing stuff like this he sends two beetles across like they'll actually catch the head enter in the base of sowing if they go a little bit deeper this reminds me of vortex's games in dreamhack it just gets a couple of ghouls and a crippler and just surrounds 10 million units and the opponent just never gets up to finding shape this reminds me of any of one's game oh and he got the next one you mentioned him it was one who really showed an uh esl maester shelf and other tournaments how good crypto one base can be if you can land those surrounds and sewing has just been absolutely massacred yeah that's the boss here is not even one and a half and the will be getting level four with any camp that he does next year this is as disastrous as it gets and he's going win riders as well which he can try and harass the expo a little bit but there is like towers supposedly somewhat close enough and tech is you know getting closer to being done here as well for uh one two three he's already got two crips so he can easily go in i guess he gets to pick guards or finns finn's probably good enough seems like our final is going to be one to zero versus chemical the rematch of last ted cup semi-final unless there's going to be some crazy miracle by sohan but it let's be real it does not does not look possible at all thinking back to that early game remember when the farsier was caught on the left side he was in the wrong position he also only had two headhunters did he mess up the build did he stop producing headhunters it feels like he should have had more by that time all right he's diving into the main but there's towers coming up the crippler can now go for potions which means he's not gonna die and web is gonna be upgraded in a moment not quite yet also wants to go for a dk oh the here oh he gets surrounded he can't kill us in the meantime cheeky impale it's too far maybe intercept in the center i see oh yes uh oh never mind you don't have a shot you went for a tower at the expo what is this is really breakable here why isn't it getting wet is he thinking yeah whatever your wyvern where is their ghouls harassing the org base what is it i mean why not they can't fight the wyvern might as well be useful elsewhere and with the towers in each base the wyvern can't enter there 1-0 again displaying patience just making fiends first because with fiends you can creep doesn't need web why does he need web wiring can't do anything i wonder if 120 had lost this series would have gone on tilt and actually switch to work you think well i know someone who knows a thing or two about that so i think you're the expert there what am i such a chef didn't you switch towards i picked a peacock for one series but yeah he uh he literally i i had never played orc almost i played like five warm-up games before that series and watched like two replays but one two zero after his last loss to lingua he actually started playing or quite a bit on the other and he was very good with it there was like a real thought here of maybe he might starts playing orc i really want to i guess now we'll never know because he's going to win actually when he was known as tara at the beginning of his career he started out playing as orc and he even played some wgl qualifiers as orc i remember when he four to one destroyed linen org mirror so his orc is really good although we see it really i think th surely in his career he was undead and he was uh random and then he was human oh really and then he's then he started switching yeah they started switching races ruby was night elf initially did you know that i think i've heard that before yeah yes wc 2003 he went to france and he was playing nigel were you a different main race before no no i was a human from the story always human well that's what you think i had a very quick choice yeah i had a quick switch to undead the first time that i played against necromancers i was like this is because my build back then was like two rocks footman with two two upgrades just terrible so imagine against the commencers how bad i did this one game and then i was like okay this is the most broken thing i've ever seen but then i switched to undead and i played a couple games and i was like okay this is boring so i went back to human dk did power level quite quickly here got the level three now got some good items and so in he is living on a prayer trying to do something with liquid fire it's about 60 through i think he could kill both haunted gold mines and he would still lose this game i don't know what he's really supposed to do here he should go for the towers probably uh you don't have a space crawl that's scary actually because if you go for the tower here and then there's a town fall you need to speed crawl out of there but what is he waiting for once they're gonna come in with the tp gonna try some of these web some of these wyvern needs to fly away quick yeah without speed scroll like i said where's the impel there it is that's the tp oh my god he left the units on the corner and that was spotted by one two zero oh my god needs to get out i got scary imagine if he had been tried there and what is there in the meantime cruising up to tier three he's going to add a lichen soon to you would be going like tinker third with swarm rockets or something i just realized you're a big fan of uh the hobbits movies right or like the lord of the rings as well and they always walk around barefoot in those movies they do i'm trying to put two plus two together they do i'm my feet are unfortunately not that hairy so i don't keep that warm in the winter but yeah now i have to correct you though i love the lord of the rings movies the hobbit movies were absolute trash did you know that there's a new um lord of the rings or simerillion series coming from amazon somewhat soon really yeah are we some of the same characters or like uh spinoff um it is set before the times of lord of the rings in like balerion's and the numenor's okay yeah basically thousands of years before so it's all ordering steam but not with none of the characters i just love cameos in movies so i'm just kind of sad there's not more cameras oh my god oh only one two let's go down yeah web absolutely destroying right there so i was trying to distract from the tiny great hall but the beatles were already there to scout it and you know i've been i've been watching the uh shows on disney plus like all the marvel shows and stuff and i feel like there is very limited amount of cameos in there they could have done so much like with all of them like one division captain american falcon or whatever falcon and winter soldier and then the latest loki there's a captain america series yeah the sorry falcon and the winter soldier ah i don't know about that one i did watch loki i thought it was a very interesting concept inside off very well but i thought it got kind of boring really in the last episode it was good i thought i do like owen wilson a lot though and also tom hiddleston expert gonna go down but you know what so i got the expo kill so he got something done problem is once there's lots of gold and he has a giant army oh last second tp the movement goes back i know some people want us to talk about the game but this has been over for a very long time i just try to talk about you know the mandalorian oh yeah the mandalorian that's a series a lot of people really loved you saw it um a couple of episodes also speaking about a cameo that was one of the better executions which one okay well you haven't finished watching it i'm not going to watch it i guess people are going to get it i did i did like a werner head hedgehog a lot in that you know the german director he's got this weird ominous voice he was the dude who gave him all that payment for something and he was speaking like this and we have to establish order in the universe yeah that was cool i don't honestly don't know what it would take for an orc player to ever win this game like just i think nothing else than a straight up disconnect would do it you know what is trying to split up his forces keeping some fiends in the base that's smart because even with just four fiends and two statues he's gonna win every fight so every other unit he can just park in the base no we can't blame sohan for a lack of trying he's certainly giving it us all yeah sometimes the player leaves after losing like most of his army and one of his heroes and it's clearly over there's always these viewers that are like what do you leave who's still early he could still win and he's like no actually like he was completely screwed this is kind of the opposite you know like i'm just not really seeing any way he could ever win but i don't know maybe if he kills both goldmine and then one two zero starts making like gigantic mistakes seems like he's gonna get a counselor again we have a kelly staff now it's pretty weird that he didn't go for a third hero by the way what would be the best third hero against this lame style a player's forces are under attack i actually don't think you need one because none of them feels like it would be very good if you could level one properly then you know maybe like a panda or something would be good against raider lame dreadlord is also always super good because you can just tinker with rockets bro singing with rockets lich actually i mean lich is usually the one hero you have to get for the orb but no you just put it on the instead you know what actually no no never mind yeah there's not a very good choice here not a very clear great choice would just go to the mega or something just go dreadlord throw out some sleeps some sleeps could be good catch some wyvern prevent a teepee or something wait why are you not gonna watch the mandarian by the way uh i don't like it that much didn't find it so interesting like this fiends being buried around everywhere around the trees so when the wire won't show up you can just unborrow and yoink grab them they did that in the main base as well actually a player's forces are under attack a town one two three is reading the map really well again like you saw the movement he's like okay i know you're gonna be on the left-hand side that's why most of the camps that are left are what does he do he pulls the camp if you feel like you two get in this position sometimes where you're ahead and you don't really know how to go about uh fighting effectively there you go just pull the camp and you're basically telling the opponent you have to engage into me otherwise i'm going to create that camp and you're screwed did catch one wyvern with the web oh it gets away oh man that wife had a death warrant signed already he was sitting on death row but somehow he got out prison break style now prison break that's the tv show that i grew up with my best friend loves that show he has no space in his inventory all right wyoming flying in all right this is like 50 fiends i think i know how this fight's gonna go legion on the ground pick it up i took so much damage from the creeps in the back and the impale alone once you give it to the for the orc have this one bro it's been a rough game for you i want to do something good for you here towards the end of your day or is it just enjoying his time before he gets to go into the final i don't think this is just an a-click fight you can just a-click on the ground and you're going to win this fight he doesn't have to do anything pick this this one up you're going to need it aussie are really low barlod getting low he has an involvement as well wind rider is just running out and one two zero gets his ticket for the grand finals do you know what that reminded me of just know what you said mike you know mcgregor has to fight soon oh yeah and uh against justin parry like tomorrow and uh apparently it came out that there was a backup fighter because these days you know like if one of the fighters gets injured or whatever test positive for kovids like you have to find a replacement the last second so what they do is they have backup fighters and in this case it came out that the backup fighter for this fight is raphael desonio's apparently so mcgregor found out about that and he tweeted something along the lines of who

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Published: Sun Jul 11 2021