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but we begin tonight with Donald Trump's need for vengeance which has been a fundamental which has been fundamental to the man as his which has been as fundamental to the man as his orange Hue he has promised to imprison President Biden he Savaged the women who have accused him of sexual abuse and impropriety and he has humiliated his political opponents there's a reason he's a bully and that's because Trump is a dogmatic believer in retaliation how do we know because he says it all the the time in fact it was a point that the prosecution has made multiple times in court as recently as this morning when yet another one of Trump's book publishers read excerpts from his book where Trump talked about how he valued loyalty above everything else punished disloyal people and espoused this motto when somebody screws you get them back in spades his obsession with payback was on display today in judge Juan maron's courtroom where it was clear that stormmy Daniels was about to go through some things because Miss Daniels had the tarity to tell the world what she really thought about her sexual encounter with the seist celebrity which was the very thing that he and his campaign did not want the world to hear before the 2016 election today he Unleashed his lone female lawyer Susan necklace to Savage Daniel's credibility by suggesting that she really was just just another money grubbing sexual deviant motivated by Fame greed and Vengeance first up necklace tried to show the jury that stormmy was greedy asking you wanted something to show for your experience Stormy Daniels yes I wanted the truth to be printed with a paper trail of some sort whether it was an interview a video or money that I was telling the truth to protect me Susan necklace you wanted money right stor Daniels I wanted the truth to come out necklace kept going telling Daniel's quote the better alternative was for you to make money right Stormy Daniels responded the better alternative was to get my story protected with a paper trail so my family didn't get hurt if the story was out then necklace wanted to show the jury that Daniels was motivated by anger necklace isn't it correct you told him another motivation to go public was your anger about Trump's Newfound opposition to abortion gay marriage Stormy Daniels I don't remember saying that was he opposed to abortion I don't know well that didn't really work necklace went for the kill shaming Stormy Daniels asking her quote so you have a lot of experience in making phony stories about sex appear to be real right Stormy Daniels that's not how I would put it the sex in the films is very much real just like what happened to me in that room this line of questioning went on for hours and to many witnessing the cross-examination it felt tedious confusing and downright vindictive however today Miss Daniel seemed composed and seemingly unflappable even when necklace implied that even though she got a lot of money for her deal with Cohen she wanted the world to know she had sex with Trump Daniel simply responded by saying no nobody would ever want to publicly say that I wanted to publicly defend myself after people attacked me after Michael Cohen told about the story in the face of the Trump defense assault she kept returning to her truth though after hours on the stand Daniels began to crack her voice was shaking during an exchange with necklace who was asking her about nasty tweets she received and why she responded to them necklace was trying to imply that Daniels wasn't that fear wasn't that fearful for her life or the situation since she was responding to the barrage of hate she was receiving after her story went public on the verge of tears Daniels pushed back telling necklace when somebody attacks me I'm going to defend myself which is ironic given that that's Trump's motto necklace spent the majority of her cross-examination fixated on undermining the veracity of the supposed sexual encounter which is not the actual alleged crime necklace' attacks were even more jarring when ju opposed to her treatment of the prosecution's last witness of the day meline westerhout westerhout Trump's personal secretary Wester how was fired when she told a bunch of reporters that she was closer to Trump than his daughters and that Trump didn't like being photographed with Tiffany Trump because he thought she was overweight the reason why necklace treated westerhout with kid gloves was because she as Trump's gatekeeper witnessed Donald Trump's Hands-On approach to his personal business while in the white house including payments to Michael Cohen which happens to be Central to the alleged crime joining me now is Suzanne Craig in investigative reporter for the New York Times and an MSNBC contributor Paul Butler former Federal prosecutor Georgetown law professor and MSNBC legal analyst and CLA MCC CasCal former Senator MSNBC political analyst and co-host of msnbc's how to win 20124 podcast I will start with you Suzanne because it did feel like today with Susan necklace' you know kind of ner um of of the cruelty that Donald Trump obviously demanded that she um throw at uh this witness she's not on trial but you would think what did it what did it look like in the courtroom was it uncomfortable for the jurors I don't know how the jurors felt I know I felt very uncomfortable I mean it kept building and building and there's a point where you were both okay let's move along and where are you going with this but it it was hard to listen to I mean it was it felt like something that might have happened 30 30 years ago I mean not today I mean they were shaming a sex worker and made it feel like that over and over again I mean it was just question after question about what you know what she did and and calling her a sex worker just things like that and I was surprised it went on as long as it did but the other thing that I was impressed with today um was stormmy Daniels herself because she Rose to the moment today I she she gave as good as she got Susan necklace was coming at her hard for hours and she I thought one of the most effective things she did first of all she was just cool there was no she wasn't elevating her voice on respones she was firm but she would be asked questions by Susan necklace I mean one of them was just she said Susan necklace said to her um have you said um that you want to be instrumental in putting Donald Trump in jail and Stormy Daniels was like I didn't say that where did I say that and she would force Susan necklace to go find the quote that multiple times Susan necklace couldn't find because Stormy Daniels actually didn't say that she may have said something similar to that but not even close and this went back and forth the badgering I understand that they need to have a narrative and they're trying to make her out as an opportunist who profited from this and that Donald Trump as a victim but I was just surprised at the lengths they went today to shame her on the stand it was kind of the not even just the sex stuff it was the nuts and they were you know they called they were basically calling her crazy at one point for other things that had happened in her life yeah and just the the one that you were just talking about uh Suzanne I'm going to put that right back up NE necklace well isn't it a fact that you keep posting on social media how you're going to be instrumental in putting uh president Trump in jail show me where I said this is where she was like a better lawyer than necklace I'll be instrumental in putting president Trump in jail nichel all right if we could show the witness j43 please just for the witness and parties do you recognize that as your post uh Stormy Daniels yes necklace and uh Daniels and I don't see the word instrumental or jail and we actually have the tweet we can just put that up and show indeed she said um somebody tweeted at her calling her a human toilet and she responded exactly making me the best person to flush the orange turd down um you she said that she was she was sort of having a pun with the toilet she said if somebody's going to come after me with that then I'm going to come back with this and she meant nothing of what Susan necklace had insinuated but if if another another person on that stand may have just agreed just to move it along or was nervous but Stormy Daniels was holding her ground for the entire time she was up against Susan necklace today let me let me do play another way read another way this is Susan necklace um and I want to go to you on this Claire because you a former prosecutor as well as being a former United States Senator um this is necklace Susan necklace claiming that story danels was selling herself a very Choice uh way of of putting it uh and she says this necklace and you were selling yourself to people who hated president Trump as somebody who could get president Trump indicted right Stormy Daniels I was not selling myself to anyone I was performing at clubs and whoever wanted to pay admission it was not geared toward people only who in who hated somebody um these were strip club patrons who had seen me dance they were fans of my work a lot of them uh had known me from 10 years before it is difficult to cross-examine a woman I can imagine Claire and normally a woman is chosen to do it that doesn't seem atypical to me I'm not a lawyer but that seems logical but it seems to me that uh Miss necklace' job today was to be as nasty as possible how does that Advance the defense it doesn't but he had a problem this defense lawyer had a problem excuse me the problem is Donald Trump is requiring their lawyers to present a defense that the sex never happened that this was all made up this that that none of this is true now imagine how different this would be if if necklace was trying to establish the this witness knew nothing about whether Donald Trump had anything to do with actually writing the checks for the hush payments if this witness knew anything about whether or not it they were recorded properly on his books or not that's what this case is about but that they are handcuffed because Trump is requiring them to prevent present a defense that he's the perfect family man that the sex never happened and that's why it's so ludicrous they asked for a mistrial of course the prosecution is going to establish that the sex happened because Donald Trump through his lawyers an opening statement said it didn't and that becomes a crucial part of the case this lawyer had a very hard job she had to make this woman look like a greedy sleazy liar and there's corroboration that the sex happened the details that she's given have been wholly consistent a little things vary but as Paul will tell you that's very common when a witness tells a story over and over and over again the essence of her story has remained identical from the beginning and the jury sens that I think this defense lawyer was required to go further than she knew she should by none other than Donald Trump and I think she did damage to Donald Trump today if you're a billionaire and you care about your shareholders you care about your family you care about your grandkids you should be voting for someone that's going to bring prosperity to America and peace to the world that's what president Trump is going to do and there you have it that's one of the leading Republican vep contenders North Dakota governor Doug bergham on his message to billionaires as Trump's vision for a second presidency comes into Focus they're all but putting a for sale sign over the White House The Washington Post reported this morning that Trump posed a deal to a group of America's wealthiest during a meeting at marlago club last month raised $1 billion for me in exchange for rolling back taxes and regulations if he's elected and why wouldn't they do it Trump is the perfect puppet ruler for them he keeps the basee entertained while advancing the real purpose of his autocratic presidency deregulate and enrich the 1% joining me now is David K Johnston distinguished visiting lecturer at Syracuse University College of Law and author of The Big cheat had Donald Trump fleeced America and enriched himself and his friends David I mean Donald Trump really is sort of the perfect ban for this job no because he does love being around rich people and serving them well and Donald despite the mistaken beliefs of millions of his followers he doesn't care one bit about people at the bottom not one bit and he's perfectly happy to associate with people like Senator Rick Scott of Florida who amazingly was not prosecuted and sent to prison for stealing $1.4 billion dollars from the taxpayers and many other people and let me just give you awesome statistics for for our audience here just to understand where we're at oil provits are at record levels right now they are Exxon Chevron Bank their second highest annual profits in a decade last year Exxon netted 36 billion Chevron 21.4 billion uh in terms of the people who are in Congress less than 2% of state legislators are from the working class out of more than 7,300 lawmakers just 116 that's 1.6% everever worked in manual labor in 10 states there was not a single lawmaker Who currently ever worked in an occupation that would be classified as working class you've got self- funders self-funding candidates all over the country they're just simply running for office themselves to take control of the country themselves billionaire worth versus regular people's wealth $2.9 trillion as of 2017 that's after Donald Trump's super duper uer tax cut 5. trillion 5.8 trillion now last time for the first time in US history billionaires have a lower effective tax rate than the working class this is Donald Trump's constituency why would normal workingclass people be in favor of him because they're not told about this in the news if they pay attention to the news at all I mean I've spent decades the New York Times and elsewhere since documenting this uh in my book perfectly legal about our tax system where I show all these people who found ways to pay little or no tax there's a chart it's the 40-year increase in income for the bottom 90% 90% and it's one inch in the book and then there's an arrow next to it it goes to the top of the page represents the oligarch class and it says continues off the page for 62 and half feet every time a person in the bottom 90% got $1 of increased income the oligarch class got $7,500 each and this did not happen organically this is not how markets work this is what Trump is selling I will fix the government rules to make you even richer even though you've got more money than you could possibly consume I will fix the rules for you and that's what people need to understand governments set the rules and we have been for 50 years now the Democrats do not have Clean Hands here mostly not because they haven't fought back but what's happened over the last 50 years is government rules that take from the many and stuff1 bills into the pockets of people who are fabulously wealthy it's having horrible social consequences it explains why so many poorly educated workingclass people think Donald Trump is their savior even as he's stabbing them in the back yeah and I think it's partly this let me play what he what he said this is in 2016 the way he ran for office and I built an unbelievable business a great great business some of the greatest Assets in the world I don't need anybody's money it's nice I don't need anybody's money I'm using my own money I'm not using the I'm not using donors I don't care I'm really rich Donald Trump became famous in the 1980s at a time when the media glorified rich people we had something called Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous he benefited from this idea of worshiping the rich and thinking people thought Elon Musk was amazing simply because he bought Tesla and they're like he made up Tesla no he didn't he bought it right but people kind of I mean that is what he's benefiting from it's why he's president yes absolutely and of course Donald is not now and never has been a billionaire no but here's one of the numbers to think about uh between 2013 and 20121 so that's just eight years the number of people reporting an income of more than $10 million tripled and when you look at the most recent IRS report on audits of people who make more than $10 million uh they only audited a tiny fraction of them and if you divide the number of people in that class by the amount collected by the government after audits it's 3 $20 per person the amount of money from audits of high income people has fallen 99% why is this not Front Page News why is this not leading the network newscasts yeah and I think it's because there is uh because the the the all the media everybody is In Cahoots on the idea of less regulation and lower taxes all of the industries are are are are for that lastly I will point out Freedom Works which was invented by the coch brothers to pretend that the tea party was a Grassroots movement they're actually shutting down now because they're no longer needed it's now self-perpetuating David people are willing to do for the upper the top right the bastile isn't being stormed the Trump Maga base is protecting the Basel right and the way we change that is we get unions back because 80% of workers benefited when about a third of private sector workers were in unions we get government rules that stop this upward redistribution through all the secret little things I revealed in my my books perfectly legal the fine print and free lunch most of all and we stopped this subsidizing of huge corporations you know General Electric should be able to stand on its own instead of taking welfare indeed uh David K Johnston thank you very much my friend much appreciated e

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Published: Fri May 10 2024