Watch Rocket Lab attempt to recover an Electron Rocket!

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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] hello good evening everyone uh welcome to my coverage of rocket lab hoping to see an awesome awesome launch today i'm really excited about this one because rocket lab is they're not trying to actually catch their their rocket this time yet with a helicopter but they are gonna be doing something really exciting which is uh they're going to be still trying to recover the rocket they're gonna let it splash down after uh parachute re-entry but they are going to let their um helicopter pilot go and rendezvous nearby in the same airspace as it so hopefully providing uh some really good camera views of re-entry and or uh the vehicle under parachutes so i think this is gonna be really cool i'm gonna give them a ton of grace if they aren't able to actually get a good live feed to us from a helicopter in the middle of the ocean because let me let me tell you um let me let me tell you as a uh someone that does live streaming that does not sound easy i do not i i do not envy the person that had to try to put together a live stream on a helicopter in the middle of the ocean but just like all of our launches anytime we have a launch and you guys need to know any of the information about this launch you know is it launching uh from this site or that site what's it launching where is it going are they gonna recover it etc etc just go to everydayastronaut.com click on pre-launch previews or the upcoming launches and you can get a list of our pre-launch previews and uh yeah here you go these are this is love at first insight and a mission by rocket lab and riding on of course the wonderful electron so let's get through a couple of these things here and then i'll get to you guys's questions uh we have i'm i'm going on early for you guys because you did uh you did ask me to so i normally always go on t minus 30 minutes you will see the clock there says t minus 33 minutes so i went on just a little early for you guys uh so that uh you know so we can all watch this together i figured that'd be fun why not all right so this is scheduled to take off at uh basically at 1 38 utc or 1438 new zealand time or for me that's going to be 7 38 p.m central standard time or central's time i don't know standard or daylight i don't know standard i don't know i don't know how that stuff works mission name this is love at first insight which is two earth observation micro satellites for black skies constellation uh very cool launch provider of course this is a rocket lab launch who is paying for this mission this is a this is actually space flight inc for black sky so space flight in kind of it's almost like they're a travel agent of sorts you know they're just the ones saying they have a customer coming in and the customer's like hey i want to do this they go all right we'll book you a ride blah blah blah and space flight got a black sky on an electron so that's really cool the rocket for this again is the electron that's the only rocket currently flying from rocket lab i still uh hold a little hope in our heart that maybe this year we'll still hear more about neutron get some kind of update about neutron i want to hear about it so bad uh that's going to be really really cool that's their next upcoming rocket which i just can't wait to learn more about but i think at this point we will have to wait a little bit launch locations is going to be launch complex 1a from the mahia peninsula in new zealand the payload masses these are about 120 kilograms so 260 pounds that's only about really half of what the electron is capable of but i'm guessing these are more volume constraint it is these two satellites are stuffing that the fairing pretty much to the max here of the electron they're they're fairly large large satellites for a small sat if that makes sense uh where are these satellites going to a 430 kilometer circular low earth orbit uh launch at a 42 degree inclination so um yeah that's that's uh yeah that's what it is will they be attempting to recover the first stage yes this will be their third attempt at recovering a stage again this is not the full blow so where will this first stage land it will softly land in the ocean so a splash down about 650 kilometers downrange from the launch pad so what is that like 400 miles or so um so that's yeah no notice they they are splashing this down this time they are not uh going to be attempting to recover it with a uh by with the helicopter this time but the helicopter again what's exciting they're you know they're slowly introducing elements they're trying to do uh little bits here and there to make sure this is a safe thing to make sure everything's looking good uh reliable repeatable something that can actually you know put a human life out there in the exclusion zone and uh and and trust that they're going to be safe so this is their this will be the first time they actually get someone out there downrange in the exclusion zone and they have the helicopter basically rendezvous with it to just make sure that you know this all looks feasible before they try to actually scoop it out of the sky because that is the ultimate goal is this booster is going to come back in from re-entry uh pull a parachute glide around for a while and then this helicopter is going to fly up and swoop it out of the sky will be the one of the most wildly coyote things ever and i can't wait i think that's going to be awesome so will they be attempting to recover the fairings nope that's not something that rocket lab does uh for now i i've not heard any plans for them wanting to do that yet um are these fairings new yes the weather is looking uh last i saw actually on on their twitter it was looking great so um let me see if i can try to pull that up here again uh i think they they had no i don't think they were talking about any weather concerns upper level winds are approaching limits shoot as we get closer to t0 stay tuned for updates that was about four minutes ago so of course uh upper level winds are approaching the limit so we'll have to wait until they go live uh they will be going live here in about 10 15 minutes and that should give us an update on the actual weather um the latest so uh yeah this will be the first time that a helicopter will track electrons descent at least up close or maybe period i guess uh third planned ocean splashdown recovery mission awesome fifth rocket lab launch of 2021 the 22nd or electron launch and the 112th orbital launch attempt of 2021 so yeah um you know if you want to learn any more about this like the uh like the black sky satellites that they're launching here's the cool way they stack these satellites uh really really cool they're able to to do payload stacking on a vehicle this size i just love that um i think that's pretty awesome reminds me very much of kerbal space program and uh yeah there you go there's there's the uh the black sky earth observation satellites that are going to be launching so if you want to learn anything more about this or about rocket labs recovery or about the upgraded hardware that they're putting on this particular vehicle and as they continue to recover and practice recovery go ahead and read through this it should give you a decent amount of information uh all about all this stuff so uh yeah let's go ahead and give a quick thank you uh to to maria kisleva for writing this awesome article so again uh everydayastronaut.com uh click on the upcoming launches and you'll get a rundown so everyone say thank you to maria for writing this article for us and uh yeah let's get to some of your questions what do you guys think we got i think we got some time and i'm gonna keep an eye here on on rocket labs twitter feed as well since they're uh teasing that the that the upper level wins may not be ideal so how is everybody i hope you guys are doing fantastic um oh wait a little surprise when you refresh the website and look in the header well i'm gonna do that now what are you talking about hang on i'm gonna do that right now oh it has a little live button hey is that really wait so if we click on that does it go to the video even really whoa hang on i i sorry i messed that up look at this website guys you guys are crazy that's really cool so i guess if i'm live you can just see here and up top it just goes live and then it takes you live you can just see here and up top it just goes live okay i'm impressed that's a fun treat i really like that thank you so oh i'm getting monitorception so i'm getting very distracted at this point uh thank you web crew for doing that that's really really cool now what's happening now it's like it keeps coming back okay let me get back into i'm just going to go everydayastronaut.com so i can pull this up if i need to uh okay so i'm going to keep an eye on their twitter feed so that we if we know anything else but meanwhile i'm gonna start answering some of your guys's questions um so uh so first off remember you don't have to you know do super chats or anything like that we'll our mods will be pulling up some good relevant questions to hopefully get in front of my face and uh and if you ask a good question i will gladly answer it i'm excited to to talk about that so um thank you human being for becoming a member by the way uh let's see everyday astronaut could they uh catch neutron with a bigger helicopter so you know you have to think about so neutron is their next launch vehicle it's going to be kind of saturn going to be kind of falcon 9 sized vehicle um it's it's easy to forget that how big the falcon 9 itself is an electron will be i mean neutron will be a little bit smaller than uh than the falcon 9 but it's still a medium class launcher it's going to be a very very large rocket at some point you run out of the capability of even the most powerful most capable rock uh helicopters and you start thinking okay well i guess we'll have to uh build our own and then you look at okay the research development production costs operation costs mechanics cost of operating a helicopter of that size um all these different factors compared to just if you're starting from scratch like they are with neutron they're planning to propulsively land it they're planning to do something similar to what the falcon 9 does which is land it under the engine's own power because when you think about that when you really start breaking it down the only thing you need is a little bit you know enough power to lift a little bit more fuel than what you need you need your first stage to be a little bit more capable than what you're actually utilizing so if you're trying to say let's launch uh say they're trying to launch 5000 kilograms to low earth orbit let's say that's their target you design your your first stage booster to just be able to do a little bit more than that you stretch the tanks you you know whatever it takes to get a little bit more performance out of it and then just use that little bit of fuel and the operation cost at the end of the day is probably likely when you do the math and you do all the the analytics of it it's likely much cheaper to just simply have the booster land itself than to have to try to uh have a large massive helicopter or a fleet of helicopters or whatever um try and do that so yeah we don't know too much more about electron or neutron and again i do hope that we hear more about neutron on the stream i don't know some i hope at some point that they give us some kind of clue because i am dying to learn more about neutrons so all right this is um a good question here from spacex recap um how many engines will they use for electron electron has nine engines on its first stage nine rutherford engines very similar to the falcon 9 and then on the upper stage it has a single vacuum optimized rutherford engine so um they will always be utilizing all nine of them at liftoff um the good thing is you know it those nine engines do offer some redundancy that if one of them were to go out i don't know about the full fl depending on the flight envelope and and the characteristics of the flight there's a chance that you know they could lose a an engine 20 seconds into flight and the vehicle should continue uh nominally or normally so um yeah so yeah that's i think that's pretty pretty darn cool so okay um will this is from our friend musical wolves how's it going music wolves thank you so much for always uh your your generous donations will the booster need to reignite to slow down to a speed where a helicopter can cat can catch it for when they do try to catch it no they have this is actually one of my favorite things about the electron rocket is because it uses electric pumps they basically just have electric battery-powered pumps to spin the engines to power the engines you can run the tanks basically completely dry because the biggest risk to a turbo pump is if you start having you know starting to suck up air bubbles or start to get near the bottom of the tanks all of a sudden you know you start getting these cavitations in the pumps and you start getting these big pressure fluctuations and you blow up the engine an electric pump doesn't really care that much when if all of a sudden it's like oh i'm out of gas you know it just doesn't matter as much they can basically run the tanks completely drier a lot a lot more dry and that also means that they don't have the at least with with the current set up with electron and rutherford they don't have a relight capability on the first stage so that does mean that they when they re uh when they come in for re-entry they're basically just gritting their teeth and letting the booster come in for re-entry um on its own and so what they've had to do is they've had to beef up the heat shield at the base of the rocket um and then the cool thing is you know this is a very lightweight rocket it's mass fraction must be phenomenal because it's using carbon composites very lightweight tanks uh lightweight engine sections it can slow down enough and remove enough of the energy through the upper atmosphere to be able to safely pull a drogue chute out and then a subsequent full parachute and it can get you know it can get that totally open before they get into that potential for catching uh you know so by the time the helicopter is around it it will be fully under a parachute and they should have several minutes to actually um you know they should actually have several minutes to go and try to uh reconnect it and actually capture the vehicle so um this is i'm sure we're gonna get these questions a lot i probably should stop teasing things like this uh further news um production's still moving actually quite smoothly uh for the the new rocket models um yeah and by the way i was working with jada uh with roger from from jada products so i don't know if you maybe have owned jada products if you're a a tesla owner uh he took care of all the manufacturing and design and a lot of the the brunt work of this of this model and this production it's going to be awesome we're in communication often with how to uh you know with where we're at the production stages they're getting painted right now basically um i we're still hoping to try to get them to shore um somehow by the end uh or basically uh by december in mid-december so we could maybe ship most of them out or some of them out uh before the holidays if not it might be something that you have on a wish list and and you know is coming as soon as possible uh but that is something that we're really really excited about is going to be a very high quality hopefully the highest quality model that you can uh easily buy without like meticulously hand building it yourself um highest model falcon 9 at first so it'll be it will be awesome i'm really really excited um let's see here let's let's keep going thank you very much from me uh let's see this is from um salty heathen hi from new zealand uh what's my view on the russian satellite being destroyed there's another one thing that i knew we'd be talking about a lot um you know to be honest i think most people out there in the entire world have heard everything about it and know everything about it um i definitely am disappointed that that happened it jeopardizes um a lot of our capabilities uh you know i don't want to start kessler syndrome and have low earth orbit you know a giant debris field that's impassable um yeah it was disappointing and i thought we were kind of beyond that you know it was pretty bad when india did the same thing two years ago it's bad when the u.s did it before that and china i mean this is not good this is not a good thing we should not be doing this anymore um but i i am disappointed because at least when india did it they they shot it down at like say two it was like 200 kilometers or something in altitude low enough that most of the debris from that satellite deorbited by now you know two years later that still sucks two years of a debris field um but this is going to last several years if not decades and that's not good um so yeah yeah not not good oh people were asking what's in the firefly box uh i just opened it recently it's actually an alpha that i have over on my shelf right there yeah forgot to move the box my bad uh this is something we've also not heard a ton about either mark b um i i don't have a date or any more information about their wallops launch i hope that that happens soon it's been open now for or basically complete for two years they did the the ceremony two years ago uh really excited for them to launch from the us i know they've had some problems with getting stuff certified to be able to launch from there but um i really hope that that yeah um i really really hope that that happens soon because yeah that'll be that'll be really fun to see the electron launching from the us thank you very much kw and hi to kw's students i love absolutely love uh when when teachers and at oh when did rocket lab go live but this third time includes the introduction of that helicopter that will simulate flying information with the returning booster as a test for future attempts to recover the booster from the air with a helicopter instead we have cameras stationed on the chopper and will hopefully be able to bring you live views of electrons returned from space from about t plus 10 minutes after liftoff regardless of whether we get those live shots we will bring you updates throughout this broadcast on those operations as soon as we have them test toggled and successful thank you sorry i didn't for some reason normally i hear it and if for whatever reason my computer decided i'm not going to let you know that this stream started so i am sorry oh are my minutes way off and ld confirms yes they are i'm monitoring mission one second i'll fix that on the satellites on board today's mission we've had to lengthen electron in order to fit the two gen two satellites for black sky inside electron sphering these payloads are the company's latest observation small sets for their low earth orbit constellation they capture high resolution images of our planet that are combined with black sky's artificial intelligence platform to analyze and make sense of those images to track trends from a region's economic recovery from twitch 19 through to international cargo transport and provide analytics and insights to industries including infrastructure land use defence supply chain management and humanitarian aid love at first insight is the first of three back-to-back dedicated missions for black sky with the next targeted for liftoff during a two-week launch window that opens before the end of this year the beauty of owning and operating the world's first private orbital launch site means that rocket lab is uniquely capable of launching to where and when our customers want to on their timeline black sky and space flight are using that advantage to launch these satellites quickly over the next few weeks and deliver insights to decision makers around the world faster earlier we caught up with space flight at launch complex 1 to talk through the mission so i'm gonna go ahead and use this time to answer a few more guys questions uh these interviews you know you can always see uh pop up later um but i wanted to try to get a few more you guys questions uh yeah again sorry let me apologize for some reason my my thing did not at all mention that hey they're live so my bad i apologize um don't worry guys we will do the pointy end up flamie and down check in the near future i have not forgotten about you guys um let's see i people were asking this is great news uh for paul uh we released a full draft to patreon members or patreon supporters and youtube members uh this last weekend so we got lots of feedback which is great that's exactly why we do this um catching and we it was a full draft with basically everything but we're still finishing a few graphics that we kind of had just placeholders in but we are literally in the very final steps of this stupid stupid stupid video i am so over it but it feels really really good it's going to be the most definitive resource uh if you've ever been like me and don't know you know it's just very overwhelming to try to learn about what engines run what rocket you know uh if they're for me like you know i'm familiar with engines inside the us but i was very uncomfortable when it came to like the rd263 and rd268 270 already 275 and 180 and 181 and 170 and blah blah blah like what are all these engines i promise you're going to learn about it um it's i'm really excited uh it's definitely like the best video um that that i've ever made uh and i wanna knock on wood say i'll never produce pursue something this hard again but i do kind of believe that this is the ultimate in hard videos to make because it's it's just it's insane there's we we cover over 75 engines in an hour and a half and and chart them all out in a family tree and talk about specific things about every single one of them to get it right was really really really hard so yeah um so yeah i hope that that um i hope that answers all you guys questions but yeah you guys uh have been very patient with me and i'm really excited i can't wait to show you guys so um yes of course uh coffee enthusiasts of course we are now looking at that now sorry if that's pretty obvious now but we are tuning in to their official live stream um let's see um let's see jude in our discord has a good question asking do i think neutron will end up being fully reusable like taran r and starship are only partially reasonable like falcon 9 was it me or did peter beck end up saying fully reusable as potentially as a gaff like just in passing in an interview said the words fully reusable and we all kind of latched onto it i feel like i heard that and i'm not gonna i'm gonna wait until you know we have more information about neutron if they do go for full reusability the thing is honestly of all companies of all companies i don't know why rocket lab just really impresses me with how like plucky they are so if they do say they're going to go for full reusability i feel like they would have a good solution for it let's tune in here for a little bit more already deployed earlier this year and the next two missions to come represent the largest number of satellites black sky has committed to a single launch provided to date and we are thrilled to be back on the pad for them once again today a check-in on the countdown clock tells us we are just seconds away from the go no go pole for launch by this missions launch director adamsley let's listen into mission control and hear how we are shaping up for liftoff today sweet i hope that uh i hope it's not scrubbed yeah so we're talking stations this is ld on mission chord we're proceeding with the go no go sequence at this time stage there you go just go avionics heavy on cisco g and c g and cs go econ econ let's go t1 t1 is go gc gc is go pls pls is go arrow rso is go mit that is go amen mm is go recovery recovery is go ld's up down the samples go i can't confirm exactly we're currently t minus 11 minutes 24 seconds and counting we are currently go for the terminal count start at t minus 10. and this time the three-way procedure is in effect that's good news they're still go so i should point out of course for those of you new to the electron it's mostly black the whole body is typically black confirmation from our launch operators that electron the payload and our crew are ready for launch and we will be proceeding with the remainder of the count our electron recovery team stationed offshore are also ready to proceed the t0 liftoff time remains 2 38 pm new zealand local time or 1 38 am utc electron is a two-stage launch vehicle purpose built as a dedicated rocket to small satellites standing 18 meters tall electron's iconic black lock comes from its carbon composite structure that is both incredibly strong and extremely light allowing us to really optimize the vehicle's lift capacity for its size electron remains the world's first carbon composite rocket to reach orbit and also boasts another world first in its 3d printed rutherford engines that power both the first and second stages of the vehicle these engines are fueled by a mix of liquid oxygen and rp1 a highly refined kerosene and major components like the combustion chamber can be printed within just 24 hours we've flown more than 200 of these engines to space with today's mission bringing the count to 220 housed on top of the second stage within the fairing is our kickstage equipped with its own curie engine flight software and other systems to function as an orbital transfer vehicle to deliver payloads to their exact destination in space with the kickstage traveling at up to 27 000 kilometers an hour inserting the payload to its specific orbital plane is a complex task that requires precision and flawless timing it takes a dedicated team of engineers and technicians hours of systems testing and checks and rechecks of every aspect of the vehicle and payload before our launch director gives the go to proceed with launch here's what goes into preparations and mission readiness in the hours before launch the countdown to launch is the most closely again these are these are little clips that they normally play like each time so if you want to see those you can find them on their their page but um so yeah so we had some good questions here that i wanted to try to go over so yeah so again notice that the rocket is black like the rocket is mostly black yeah there's some bands of white and red now with some of the recoverability stuff and the upgrades but the rocket is black and it's just insane to think that when it's sitting on the pad it's like half black half white uh which is just crazy and that's because of course where it's white is where the liquid oxygen is stored and liquid oxygen again is you know minus 183 degrees celsius in order in order to take oxygen from a gas boil it down uh get it cold enough to become a liquid yeah you have to be like 100 minus 180 something degrees celsius so very very very cold and of course the humidity in the air will stick to that cold uh environment and it will turn into ice and you'll just basically have this blanket of ice on the outside of the rocket and yeah that obviously weighs something they have to take all that into consideration um some of it will flake off at launch that's normal too but this is one of the rockets that it's the most obvious with and actually uh when i've been doing a bunch of research and and learning more and more about soviet rocket engines and things like the r7 and soyuz and stuff i was reminded that the soyuz is not white for some reason i always think it's white you know because you always see it on a pad sitting there fueled up but i forget oh yeah it's like you know this off-white color most the time and and greenish you know kind of that weird green but yeah there we go we we can see there that was a perfect example of it getting iced over so um super cool i just love seeing that so um this is from musical wolves uh does the 430 kilometer low earth orbit have a small chance to interfere with the iss or is it going in a direction where no chance so it's at 41 degrees um inclination so it is at a different inclination so basically say you have like a hula hoop around a basketball the basketball spinning underneath the hula hoop uh one would be the international space station is at 51.6 degrees and usually around that 400 kilometer altitude uh this is going to be you know tilted a little bit more equatorial uh i believe it's 41 degrees uh or 40 degrees or something like that so it's a little different inclination um but it's you know it is going to be higher altitude these these satellites will be higher altitude than the iss is uh basically period but um yeah you always have they're always you know aware and tracking all the objects so they have to do sometimes maneuvers to make sure they ensure they do not have any collisions so as you can see it's a massive team effort to deliver black skies payloads to orbit today our operations are on track and we remain green for an on-time liftoff at 2 38 pm local time so in discord we're talking about how much pressure can uh are are the tanks and i'm guessing it's probably most rockets are between five to six uh bars so five to six times out of atmospheric pressure uh and and corona kivo on our discord will said well it shouldn't be the same as a as a copv or a composite overwrapped pressure vessel this is basically just the over wrapped part of the pressure vessel it's not the it's not a copv because the copd still has an aluminum liner or some kind of liner that's that's metal um you know they can be insert i think it is normally aluminum but then that is tightly wound with uh with carbon fiber carbon carbon wrapping in order to make sure it really stays together so this is basically remove the liner and you're left with just the the wrapping the overwrap part so it's definitely not capable of of anywhere near a copv which can be hundreds and hundreds of bar pressure uh if you made a rocket out of that it'd be a lot more mass inefficient it'd be like let's delve a little bit more into how the recovery operations for this mission will take place at around two and a half minutes after liftoff following normal launch procedure the nine brotherhood engines on electrons first stage will shut down and electrons first and second stages will separate electron second stage will continue with the black sky satellites to space where the kickstage will later separate and deploy the satellites while the mission continues electrons first state will begin its descent a cold gas reaction control system will position the stage on an ideal angle to re-enter the atmosphere and help electron to handle the 2200 degree celsius heat and incredible pressure we're going to speed up a little bit i guess i'm a little behind booster is expected to reach up to eight times the speed of sound before significantly decelerating to enable a drogue parachute to be deployed that will take place at approximately seven and a half minutes into the machine deploying at around forty three thousand feet or thirteen kilometers in altitude this drug parachute both increases the booster's drag and de and stabilizes its descent as it approaches the ocean earlier and higher than on previous flights the large main parachute will be deployed less than a minute after the drogue at an altitude of 19 000 feet or 5.7 kilometers to further slow the stage and enable a controlled flash down upon receiving the all clear from the recovery team stationed at sea the nearby helicopter will be deployed through sites the returning stage and follow its descent a key objective of this mission is to increase the drift time of electrons first stage to test communications and tracking for future aerial recovery efforts once in the ocean rocket lab engineers will attempt to retrieve electrons first stage on board their vessel with their purpose-built ocean recovery and capture apparatus or orca a specialized cradle and winch system manufactured to electron specifications before securing the stage and transporting it back to rocket labs production complex for analysis and inspection with a live camera on the recovery recovery helicopter we will do our best to bring the video feed to you during the webcast but of course if we can't we will keep you updated on those recovery events throughout the broadcast and on our social media we are approaching though the final moments in the lead up to liftoff now with just two little bit minutes and remaining on the clock all systems are go and the weather is clear for t0 very soon electrons flight computers will take over and command the countdown to launch once auto sequence begins about 30 seconds later we should hear the call that fueling electron with liquid oxygen has been completed confirmation of first and second stage pressurization should follow then on to the final 60 seconds and t minus 10 second countdown before electron lifts off the pad for our 20 second launch from launch complex one we're going to switch to the mission control comms channels now to listen in ahead of liftoff sweet i need to get in here real quick pointing it is up flaming is down can confirm they are go for launch i can confirm that pointy end is up flaming is down my friends let's see this thing launched today whoo it's been a while rocket lab let's do this oh man i am i really hope that we get to see footage from the helicopter uh of re-entry and close on internal power afds is green and enabled for flight copy avionics that's awesome we are getting close guys box load is complete system is in recirculation i'm feeling good so it looks like a beautiful day i hope that the upper level winds maintain not being an issue anti-geysering is disabled stage one and stage two tank suppressed we have a lot of really good questions here that i'm seeing guys i will get to purchases at a good time but now that we're within t minus one minute i'm just going to listen in and enjoy this launch with you guys and then i'll pop back in at the end and answer as many questions as i as i have time for deluge activated t-minus 20 seconds i like that shot ten nine eight seven six five four three two one feel detect mode we are at t plus 46 seconds and there goes another electron on its way to space for this 20 second launch from the pad from rocket lab launch complex one soon the rocket will experience its peak amount of stress as it travels incredibly quickly over a large distance this moment is called maximum aerodynamic pressure or what's known as max-q and is one of the first gates electron needs to clear to make it to orbit the camera's got a lot of condensation on it and past max q okay and we have passed max q and electron is continuing the journey to space propulsion looks nominal on electrons first stage as the rocket approaches the next major milestones of launch in a few moments electron's 9 rutherford engines will throttle down and then shut off completely to slow the rocket down this milestone is called main engine cutoff or miko and it occurs just before electrons first and second stages separate once that's happened very quickly electrons 10th engine on the second stage will light up to maintain its trajectory and continue carrying the two satellites to orbit after these launch events are cleared it's then that our rocket recovery operations begin with the boosters descent back to earth but first let's wait to hear the call out from mission control that those events have occurred successfully by the way that little kind of t-shaped little thing you're seeing that is actually one of those little 15 seconds to be called those little tiny copv thrusters so are a cold gas thruster so they're little itty-bitty little uh as long as we call them mouse farts and those are what are going to help control the stage uh during re-entry before re-entry to help align it so get ready they're coming up on main engine cutoff miko confirmed stage separation successful yeah that looks clean technician two cameras on stage separation like that on stage two there you have it electron has had a successful meco stage separation and second stage engine start stage one recovery operations will now proceed with the vehicle's successful stage separation we are moments away now from electrons fearing ejection let's keep an eye on our screens for that beautiful shot just stunning there we go see fairings yes separation confirmed electron sparing has successfully separated as we get ready to deploy the two black sky satellites to their low earth orbit within the hour in about one minute or so electrons first stage will reach apogee now now when the first and second stage is separated electrons booster is still traveling at such a speed that it continues moving upward before gravity begins to take over so once electrons first stage reaches apogee or its highest point the only place for it to go next is back down we should hear that call soon from mission control that's first stage there on the right so it's orienting itself right now uh engines first really cool shot wow thanks to help it is okay we are just past t plus four minutes into flight and electron stage two is travelling normally at a speed of over 8 000 kilometers an hour and an altitude of over 167 kilometers in less than a minute electrons first stage should reach apogee within with orientation of the stage underway as planned so basically it flipped to 180 degrees because there's you know engines at the bottom but now they're putting the engines at the top and it's going to just coast like this and land uh and come in through reentry stage one apigee okay now stage one will begin falling back so it's probably and with apogee confirmed electrons first stage is officially on its earthwork trajectory the next milestone in our recovery operations will be the deployment of the first shoot on electrons booster we'll stick with the camera views on the rocket for as long as we can but a reminder we do expect them to cut out at some point on that return meanwhile electron's second stage engine is burning bright and beautiful on the way to orbit the vehicle is currently at speeds of more than 10 000 kilometers per hour and an altitude of more than 200 kilometers so yeah you'll notice that the second stage engine on the left is glowing red because the nozzle extension is made out of niobium or something similar that uh that has a really high melting point but it also can just it's very thin so it'll radiate you've got some good telemetry coming in for how electron is traveling to low earth orbit if you are just joining us our 22nd mission is going well so far with the second stage travelling at more than 11 000 kilometers per hour more than 214 kilometers above earth electrons booster is now on the correct angle of attack to re-enter the atmosphere from space where it separated with the second stage as per normal launch procedure a few moments ago all systems are continuing to perform well across both stages of the vehicle they're making this look easy i love seeing this re-entry on the right so you're looking down the length of the booster i should probably grab an electron but i'm going to grab what i have in front of me which is a falcon 9 hold on i'm going to kind of get it into something that looks more like a electron so yeah we're basically looking down the length of the rocket here looking down at the engines in that right view our next launch event will be the battery hot swap set to take place on electron's second stage because our rutherford engines maintain their power source from batteries at a certain point those batteries run out of charge so we need a fresh new one to keep the engine running and what we do is we swap the power from the depleted batteries to a third fully charged one all while keeping the second stage moving at more than 13 000 kilometers an hour we'll hear that moment called out through mission control shortly before we expect to hear the next recovery operation milestone that deployment of the drogue parachute let's listen in here comes that battery hot swap we're likely going to lose the downlink on the booster on the right because as it comes in for re-entry uh you will see there's a lot of plasma build up um from the air getting compressed and and heating up and turning into a plasma oh battery successful you can see those two little batteries getting popped off there i love that and stage the proportion is holding nominal and there we go that we have the good news of battery hot swap there on electrons second stage next up in recovery operations will be the main parachute release we should be hearing that call shortly afds has saved automatic flight termination system afts come on baby so we're still just looking down the out the the bottom of the engine of the second stage here but well maybe we'll get some views of the first stage uh as it should be discharged holding nominal so that's definitely one of those technologies that they came up with was ejecting two batteries at once so it doesn't offset you know like if you have one kicking off stage one main shoot deploy oh they had station main shoot deploy so hopefully it yeah the parachute on electrons booster has successfully deployed and so our recovery helicopter is in the air on its way to get a glimpse of the booster coming back to earth all going well the first stage should now glide gently toward the ocean remaining in the air for another 10 minutes or so from the parachutes release we'll bring you visuals from the helicopter if we can right now though high above stage one recovery electron's primary mission is continuing nominally with the second stage powering its way to low earth orbit in under two minutes this stage will be approaching its next event second engine cutoff or seco and then separation from its orbital transfer vehicle the kick stage which will carry the two black sky satellites to their destination we won't have an immediate engine burn on the kick stage following that separation as it goes into a coast phase while it's in an elliptical orbit before its curie engine ignites and jumps it into a circular path for payload deployment we'll wait to hear that sage separation call come from mission control shortly guidance is in terminal 25 seconds remaining almost done with that burn fuse from the helicopter yes they're doing it they're live streaming from the middle of the ocean yes this is and good clean separation stage three separation confirmed nominal transfer orbit received good transfer orbit this is awesome it's all looking great there you go another smooth achievement of our latest mission milestone the rutherford engine on electron's second stage has shut down as planned and the kickstage is now separated on its way to payload deployment in about 45 minutes or so meanwhile we are getting some views from the helicopter of electron coming back to earth hopefully we'll see that soon under a parachute our helicopter's role here is to maintain a visual connection for as long as it can to record data of the first stage that will help refine our operations for future electron aerial capture attempts electron has around eight minutes left in the air before it reaches the ocean wow eight minutes of hang time we are going to take a break now though while the kickstage enjoys its coast phase around the earth unfortunately we won't have a live video feed of payload deployment on this mission but we will stay with you on this webcast to bring you a simulated view of that occurring that's expected to take place at around t plus 55 minutes into the mission and of course any updates we have on the final moments of our recovery operations we'll bring them to you here live while we wait the end of the mission but we will leave you with views from the helicopter if we can keep them up from the splashdown zone as long as we can and i'll see you back here soon sweet i really hope we get to see the fears from that [Music] well what music is this they're playing what stinkers huh is that everyday astronaut yes my friends at rocket lab do use uh my music with permission for their live streams it's an honor uh yeah don't forget guys by the way i do have new music up on spotify itunes title wherever you listen to music just search everyday astronaut and you will find my new album called heliocentric and it's the album that i recorded that the music is written literally 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brown things were the last things that we kind of had to do i think we got most of those done today and we will be implementing them into the final timeline uh tomorrow and exporting and reviewing again friday and over the weekend with hopefully targeting a a launch for this one hour and 33 minute long video uh i'm i can't wait i know you guys uh i know you guys know i've been working on this for a long time i know i talk about it a lot but that's because that's i've been working on a lot i've been working on it for a very long time for over two years uh and full time on this video now for about three months so uh yeah i talk about it a lot because i've been working on it a lot so i cannot wait for you guys to see it uh it should be awesome so all right um let's get to some of your guys's questions here so um this is from the professional um hey tim love your work can't wait to see this do we know when the first catch is planned uh they haven't really given us anything uh definitive yet so we don't really have a hard time line on it just yet but as far as i know you know they're kind of just one step at a time similar to how you know when people ask when is starship this or that it's like you got to kind of look at the the sequence of events so this this mission is important because they're going to be seeing how feasible is kind of a feasibility and safety study of the helicopter how is it okay for the helicopter to go out there in this airspace how obvious is this going to be you know on the horizon there's a lot of logistics things that they're trying to probably figure out with this particular mission they did say that they had like eight minutes left of hang time so the booster is likely getting about 10 minutes of hang time so assuming the helicopter is within a reasonable range i really hope they can find it um it's going to be awesome so so that's kind of what's next assuming this goes well today and they come back home they're like you know what we were literally right there we had we would have had four minutes to be able to scoop it out of the sky no problem um then from there you know we'll see what happens next maybe the next step for them would be uh you know actually trying to catch the next one that's available for recovery um or maybe the one after that maybe they'll do another one like this kind of like how they did multiple splash downs before they got the helicopter maybe we'll do two helicopter uh reviews make sure everything feels good before they go on um yeah i i we don't have any answer on that but i do hope that it's i hope it's soon i don't think it's gonna be this year yet i think they only have one more launch plan this year but next year seems like it's going to be um you know i think it's gonna be pretty stacked so yeah um this is a good question from matt green again guys remember ask a good question if it's if our mods see it we'll try and throw it up how does the performance of the rutherford engine compare to the merlin or other small sat launcher engines well merlin's definitely not a small well i guess it was a small sat launcher when it was on the falcon one uh but merlin is substantially more powerful let me actually pull up the specs here for you guys the merlin if i recall altogether what is it 1.8 mega newton so something like 700 or 800 uh or what is it no divided by nine 250 kilonewtons i don't remember let's find out here merlin 1d um i'm blanking i've been okay so the oh yeah okay it's almost a mega newton uh it's it's 961 kilonewtons uh at in in a vacuum so almost a thousand kilonewtons um that's how powerful one merlin is and the rutherford engine is like a tenth of that if at best of electrons first stage from the recovery team if we're not able to bring you live video confirmation of that during today's webcast we will keep you updated via our social media channels meanwhile we'll be back at around t plus 52 minutes with an update ahead of payload deployment cool well maybe we'll learn something maybe we won't yeah look little little they even put my name on there thanks for having me i love you guys um yeah okay so we'll see if they are able to show us a video of successful uh splashdown so uh all right what were we talking about oh yeah merlin so yeah merlin is is almost a thousand basically almost a mega newton let's see what uh rutherford rocket engine is if i recall it's much less than that 24 kilonewtons um yeah so it's much less powerful that puts into perspective just how big and how powerful the merlin is and how small and lightweight the electron is i mean that's that's really impressive that an engine that small is capable of doing that so um yeah all right so um andrew trier i'm saying definitely not relevant but what are your thoughts regarding we got time here my friends ask ask away uh what are your thoughts on regarding raptor name change slash new engine and uh that they will have a depot in orbit so the depot and orbit thing makes so much sense i think there should be definitely a depot going between even i think this is gonna be necessary for hls to make any sense i don't think you want to take hls the human landing system that's the lunar lander i don't think you ever want that leaving lunar orbit because then you're also taking all of the you know human capable systems all the you know the the internal volume that's you know pressurized with all the life support with all the extra batteries all the extra engines all the extra considerations for the human landing system when really and you definitely don't want to do the opposite you don't want to take your regular starship and send it out to the moon into lunar orbit and use that to try to fuel up the human landing system because then you're carrying fins heat shields landing legs extra engines all the way out to the moon that is literally just wasted you know wasted fuel that's all you're doing at that point is wasting that fuel you're much much better off docking to a dedicated vehicle right of a dedicated vehicle that is just purely you know ins like elon was talking about today insulated um you know i've argued for a long time that i didn't think we would need you know i don't think if you're fueling up in low earth orbit and then doing an injection to mars you don't need a tanker you don't need a tanker for that necessarily you might as well just fill up the one vehicle right you'll take taken launch and go and fill up the one vehicle so if you're going to just do that there's no real need for a tanker but if you're but to even get back and forth to the moon and get fuel transferred between earth and the moon i really think that the only legitimate option there is a tanker otherwise you're just wasting fuel carrying around mass that you don't need to carry around so um yeah i think the other thing um the raptor name change no surprise there it's spacex they're going to be pushing and pushing and pushing uh did elon say on twitter something like he's going to call it the rap the velociraptor which we've heard many many times now this is nothing new um let me see here i think he did talk about that um saying uh let's see let's see what did he say i thought he mentions at one point this maybe this is different he did mention it being the velociraptor at some point um but you know that's we've known that for a long time we definitely think that's going to be a higher performance but i the way i see raptors is it's going to go through another iteration change here with with raptor two that will likely be the first ones that we really see become orbital and become fairly operational and it's probably going to be a while if they're really developing a completely new version or uh you know now they're getting the data and the feasibility of all the stuff sure i don't see why they you know won't start from scratch honestly and it might be five to you know five to ten more years before we get into a brand new engine that's really truly capable of mars because mars is a different beast but all right let's see here um this is from jm studios uh why are a lot of new startups using liquid nitrogen and liquid oxygen wouldn't a denser fuel be more practical since you get a smaller vehicle and don't need huge ground systems um so yeah i mean that's why most companies have always just gone for the keralox route keralax being kerosene or rp1 rocket propellant one uh it's very similar to like a jet fuel and liquid oxygen because then you're only dealing with one cryogenic fuel uh i had an interview with with peter beck from rocket lab one time on their uh on their launch pad at lc2 uh in in wallops virginia and um i asked him basically yeah why you know why on your upper stage are you still using keralox and you know would you ever consider upgrading to hydrogen or methylox to you know unlock a little bit more performance and he said well he was dealing with with cryogenics is a pain in the butt um dealing with with one height with one cryogenic as a pain in the butt dealing if we can avoid having to deal with another cryogenic uh we would like to do that so basically he's he's saying that they're they're happy to keep it simple and you know and and keralox is uh but realistically operationally um if you can handle the investment and and really learn how to handle methane uh it's a lot cheaper i mean the fuel itself when you start getting down to the the really competitive nature of of this new era of spaceflight you do start adding up the costs of fuel you know forget your multi-million dollar rocket you even have to consider how much are we spending on fuel um but then you get into how much do we have to pay for this ground support equipment and all these things to make sure we can actually do liquid methane or do liquid hydrogen and do liquid oxygen all these things there's so many considerations i would love and hate to be the people that actually make those decisions because you look at so many charts and so many you know overlaps and look for these sweet spots where you're you're balancing pain in the butt versus cost versus uh performance versus et cetera et cetera so i think some of the new startups are literally using liquid nitrogen liquid natural gas because environmental impacts performance and price but they are leaning into the idea that they can just knock it out of the park i guess we'll see all right so uh cracks wants to know what streaming software i use here in iowa i use just obs good old obs but down in texas we have black magic basically everything with a little bit of casper uh cg software and a few other little tidbits here and there but yeah um here just good old obs this is a great question from joe hansen when coming back down from orbital velocity which this is especially with orbital velocity but we'll say for now stage one which is what they're recovering uh why don't they just slow down before entering the atmosphere uh like just dropping down could it help prevent so much stress on the heat shield so let's start with like the booster like the falcon 9 or the electron um both of which things need to survive re-entry and and coming through through reentry every every little bit of fuel that you'd use to re-enter or land could have been used to put something into space could have been used to perform work into getting um a payload into space so you have to consider that uh the the electron does not have a huge a large margin right now a lot of the satellites they're flying you know it only can fly like 250 or 225 kilograms no they upgraded started 300 kilograms to low earth orbit if i remember right um or is it 350 someone help me um but they uh you know the the cool thing with with that is you know realistically you are already having a very fine margin of what is even physically capable for the for the electron so if all of a sudden you have to now add fuel in order to be able to land you first off you're weighing down the rocket more so now you might need to have like another engine or you might have to have more powerful engines uh in order to lift that additional fuel but then um you know now all of a sudden we're looking at all these things just compound you know so all of a sudden now we have to have all this extra fuel to take away some of the performance of what would be able to be put into you know put into orbit blah blah and it just really compounds very quickly and gets very out of hand now on the other hand orbit's even way harder because you're going say 27 000 kilometers an hour and it took the entire rocket that we now know it so say you take a falcon 9 again you have the you have your first stage and you have your upper stage sorry i took the legs off and again prototype mode sorry this is not anywhere near our finished product finished product will be metal and painted and pretty so say you burn off all of the fuel in the first stage right okay now we gotta save a little bit to reenter they do that they slow down and then you burn off all of the fuel in the second stage and you deploy your payload now say you want to slow down and you want to make it say go as slow as as your first stage right because the first stage when it reenters is only about a quarter of the velocity as something in orbit so what would it take to slow back down in space in a in the frictionless environment of space the the thing it would take to slow back down to the velocity of the first stage is quite literally you would have to launch an entire upper stage a second stage but now this would be your third stage your second stage would have to be much bigger than this because it'd have to put all of this into orbit in the first place and then of course if you have a huge second stage it also means a ginormous first stage so it all just scales it's the the tyranny of the rocket equation so if you're trying to slow down before orbital re-entry um it's basically just a fool's errand you might as well use the atmosphere that is free to slow you down the atmosphere can slow you down for free it can also destroy you but if you do the right techniques and do the right things the atmosphere will can slow you down and all you have to do is dip down a little bit literally when you go when they go in for re-entry like the space shuttle it only bleeds off like i don't know if it's one or three percent of its orbital velocity in order to dip down enough to get into the thickest part of the thick enough parts of the atmosphere that's not much compared to the you know again 27 000 kilometers an hour remove i don't know what is it like 700 meters per second or something of a velocity and that's enough to re-enter and then the atmosphere will do the rest of it the 97 plus percent um it's uh yeah it's it's going to be absolutely insane uh lots of questions about the rockets again these are these are prototype rockets that we are working on uh this is the prototype we're hoping to get these in uh in our store this year but these will be again the real ones will be metal painted uh not fragile at all like you can handle them and not fear them breaking um you can move them around the house you can have a cat knock it over and you're not going to cry all the grid fins will even will even work and and be mobile and they'll stick together and do all the things you can also separate the first and second stage as i do here and you'll be able to actually literally stand this up and have this be its own standalone model uh all this will come in the box i'm really excited for this so this is going to be a pretty awesome again they're metal they're going to be 1 100th scale and the fun thing for me the main reason i'm doing this is that i hate that all my model rockets are at different scales i love my model rockets uh i think they're like the coolest thing i have others just around my house uh i love seeing rockets around the house i think it's really cool but they're all at different scales and it always bugged me so our entire collection this is the first if this goes well if you guys like this if you guys buy this and if you're happy with the quality and with the product we'll go on to another rocket we'll probably do falcon heavy next because the tooling is mostly there already uh since these are diecast we have to literally get molds and all this crazy stuff um but if you guys like that we'll do falcon heavy and then we could do this space shuttle and soyuz and n1 and saturn v and all these small set launchers and and you know delta iv heavy all at the same scale all of them would be at one one hundred scale so that's going to be the coolest collection ever because you'll actually see them at the proper scale it bugs me so there you go that's that's what i'm really excited if you can't tell i'm really excited for that because i've wanted that for a very long time so okay so uh let's see where are we at here um mick wants to know uh what is your current thinking on what kind of water daily system they'd build for starship launches i i can't imagine they're going to get away without a water daily system there that and water daily is where you basically spray the the launch pad and the the ground with literally just soak it with water you'll notice that big giant water tower next to launch pads uh especially like 39a and 39b at kennedy space center and they literally open up taps and let these huge massive hundreds of thousands of gallons whatever it is uh drain out and and just soak the launch pad what happens is when the rocket takes off uh it will they you know they put all this water out there so that it gets vaporized so that it absorbs a lot of the sound and heat energy from the exhaust and turns it into steam which then you know cuts down on the on the sound cuts down on the heat yeah the saturn v didn't really have much of a water daily system but um but the space shuttle did the special had a lot of water deluge and the um the crazy thing is the saturn v i don't know how they did that actually um but the star ship's gonna be twice as powerful as the saturn five so i just really assume they're going to have a water deluge system we will see i guess um all right so this is a good question uh we'll probably talk about this by the way tomorrow guys for those of you watching yeah we're doing an r ludicrous future uh reunion show tomorrow uh which is gonna be super fun i'm really excited it's been way too long since i've been able to catch up with the gang so we're doing a reunion show tomorrow uh this is one of those things i really want to talk about a spin launch if you guys didn't see a startup uh did a spin launch demonstration the other day where they basically spin up a rocket and then shoot it out of a vacuum sealed giant launch platform and then the idea being that can basically become your first stage your first stage is basically a giant slingshot get your your second stage up to nearly the same velocity and altitude as what you would use the first stage for the hard part is when you're spinning something at 400 some rpm uh at that leverage you're pulling 10 000 g's like literally 10 000 g's um you're definitely not going to be launching humans many satellites made today are literally expecting a 5 to 8 g or something maximum you know ride to space so having that's my biggest concern is like how many people are going to readily sign up uh and have payloads capable of a hundred or ten thousand um and actually uh scott mainly bought up a really good point on his video mentioning that cell phones a lot of consumer electronics can actually handle that kind of g-load uh believe it or not but you know right now satellites are made to be lightweight and you know just made for very space made so it's going to take some consideration that really have to come in extremely aggressively with pricing to really get people to consider uh you know you come down to this whole idea is it worth it is it worth it is it that much cheaper safer more reliable yada yada yada plus all the pains of having to handle 10 000 gs and instantly separate and literally you know all these all these considerations uh is that actually going to be cheaper in the long run and is it cheaper in the long run to now make a f your customers have to make a satellite capable of 10 000 g's all these other considerations um but yeah so uh we we'll see we'll see if they ever get into get a vehicle into orbit so all right let's get okay so um from from brian moon i'm sorry i'm probably a little late on these how big of a window are they anticipating once the helicopter is in range so again it sounded like they almost had 10 minutes between parachute deploy and splash down so that's a 10 minute window basically of the helicopter uh to build a rendezvous with it and hopefully we'll hear back i should probably just have rocket lab pulled up here in case they tweet about it um let's see nothing yet that i can tell but yeah we'll keep going um is my audio ahead a couple seconds on the live stream if that might be you just go ahead and refresh your feed all right so uh this is from darkseid well why are there no launches of starship lately what's been going on just all you have to do is watch any of the uh the the many live streams you'll see they're still constructing an awful lot there's a lot of people got really used to the pace of sn8 through 15 um but really realistic they weren't doing that much you know once they had it set up for eight as far as the ground systems and assuming they didn't blow it up they're good to go for 9 10 11 15. like really with almost zero consideration and they were cranking those things out fast now to get to the boosters in a full stack they had to build the launch tower they had to build the actual launch pad pad and mount they had to build the the arms they had to build all of these new things all the new tanks all of the new infrastructure and they have to continue building and getting ready to certify the actual starship stage that now has six engines and a heat shield as well as the booster which has 29 engines and needs to have all of these uh you know engine covers and things like that so there's a lot of work to do and they've done a lot of work and they're getting closer but um you know the other day elon mentioned something like um said we're just waiting on approval no approval is not the thing holding up starship right now there's there's they could not launch it tomorrow just physically there's no way um they're they're still a ways away from it they're still probably in my in my opinion i'm still feeling like um if i go to texas mid-january i still won't miss anything i still don't think uh i don't want to miss a thing uh you know i don't even think i'll be missing a static fire of super heavy at that point that's my personal opinion but yeah um t260 says sls fully stacked not curious if you think it's going to take off this year no they just said the other day that sls will be summer 2022 so the race is still on it's still on between sls and starship uh first orbital launch attempt so yeah all right so let's keep going here wow hey from john depker everyone say thank you to john holy crap finally caught you live like live you're awesome looking for uh looking forward to all your projects all good things thank you so much john thank you everyone please give john a thank you in chat that means a lot to me thank you i know again i'm sorry that i haven't been you know you're not seeing a ton of stuff from me on this channel because i have just had my head down working way too much on this video but we're getting back into the swing of things um i'm already almost halfway done scripting another video already it should be a shorter video probably still 20 or 30 minutes or something but much easier video so um yeah i think uh yeah so thank you john again and it is funny that when people like tim we haven't heard from you forever are you okay and stuff it's like this is pretty normal for me any of these big videos like the raptor engine the aerospike the pollution video uh took like months you know i hadn't posted i think before raptor i think it'd been three or four months aerospike was like two or three months pollution video is was four months really of a scripted video um these ones that take a lot of research and a lot of effort and a lot of the extra animations and stuff just take a long time unfortunately so yeah so thank you again for for those of you that do support me for sticking around and and trusting that uh i don't know if it's gonna be worth it i don't know uh this is this is a huge risk for me this this video that has taken up this much time in my life financially probably won't be anywhere near worth it i it's not gonna i could make a video that says starship farts and it'd probably have 10 times the views you know um but i think this is worth it to me this is important this is kind of the thing that embodies uh the intentions of everyday astronaut which is making a very complicated confusing scary intimidating topic like all these russian engines that almost no one knows all of them you know and it's really hard to keep track of and it's really intimidating to learn i'm making it easy to learn and i'm making it a fun story and i'm you know doing a lot of the legwork to really lay it out for you guys so that you can enjoy it that's the whole point is that is that you can actually sit digest and actually enjoy something that was something that you might not have been familiar with before and that's really important to me because i learn that way i learn by having someone just spell something out for me and digest it you know love like wendover uh a real life lore a lot of these uh science communicators that you know will break down something really really well um bill wurtz's videos i don't know if you guys are familiar with bill wurtz uh his like entire history of japan and entire history of the world i kind of almost treat it like that where it's like i want it to be so dense full of information that you can watch it over and over again and you're going to enjoy watching because you're going to be learning there's a lot of great b-roll there's a lot of good things to see um and i want you to actually like want to watch it again because you were like i know there's a proton launch coming up now remind me what was the engine lineage there you know and you'll learn all about the rd 253 and rd 263 and the rd 264 and the 68 and the all of the other things the whole the whole deal uh i yeah i'm just really excited and i'm sorry that i talk about it all the time but it has been my life for the past two and a half years or over two years so my bad um wow this is crazy james uh saying that scott mainly estimated the end of century for all the materials to deorbit from that's too bad from that from that satellite getting shot down the other day um philip moyer uh what's your level of excitement over the 6 raptor static fire and what's your guess for when orbital so we kind of talked to one orbital a second ago my level excitement for six raptor static fire awesome milestone um i watched it of course you know i was tuned in uh to to the all of us different static fires myself watching nsf and lab padre um yeah i mean that's great i i'm kind of personally kind of over starship static fires like i don't know i've they became so routine this last winter uh being in texas like they became so routine that's just like this is just an engine fire now this one was special because they they you know fired six engines for once uh the first time they they've fired all three vacuum optimized engines two along with three sea level engines very cool great milestone probably a lot different uh audibly to here um a cosmic perspective posted an awesome video today i think or was it yesterday i need to put i need to tweet about that uh with awesome audio from it they had a really good audio and really good visuals as usual um of that event really cool um but just kind of another test i think boosters 29 engine static fire will be a little bit more exciting to me that one i really want to see in person but um yeah um this is funny uh people on discord you're going are we really at the point where we're calling staticfire's routine yeah of course like i was over them in like february it's just i mean at some point they just kind of become a thing like we stopped live streaming i think after we didn't i don't think we static fire or streamed into the sn10 stuff because i was just like what am i gonna tell you about this like it's just it's just an engine test you know um yeah all right let's keep going here uh but one orbital i'm still thinking honestly spring late late winter spring um i don't actually know i need i need to catch up on the dart mission um i believe it's that's the falcon heavy mission but i don't actually i need to catch up on it yeah i'll i'll gladly admit when i don't know something that's what we all should do is just be like yeah i don't know instead of trying to like i don't know enough about it to give you any to give you any deep down rundown but thank you for your chat uh i will learn about it before it launches that i can you know talk to you guys in depth about it so all right let's keep going here um boom um this is a good question z astro boy they did update they did upgrade the parachute i don't know if they did a ring sale or a parasail yet they had been using just a regular ring parachute a circular parachute uh and in prior attempts but they did upgrade the parachute for this launch and i this might be the one where they do go to a parasail um the p the pre-launch preview is up for dart so yeah there we go if we need a rundown on why this keeps like hey bad news the everyday astronaut website does keep redirecting me to my own live stream whenever i refresh it that's funny um let's see oh it's just a falcon 9 launch that's right that's in six days oh i better learn about this in a hurry i am out of touch there we go i was thinking what was i thinking of what's that what's the next uh falcon heavy mission that's that's a that's a air force one or something or was it like a i already forgot yeah i better learn about dart because that's coming up here in a real hurry uh if you want to learn about dart 2 go to everydayastronaut.com click on upcoming launches and you can learn all you need to know about the dart mission so there we go oh man website crew is going to fire me for that one um all right let's see here let me keep going um where are we at let me get back to so i can make sure i'm not missing anything on the live stream because we are getting close to that curie burn uh this is from uh schizo jedi let's go rocket lab yes rocket lab is now a public company that's crazy they are a publicly traded company um yeah i i don't know what else to say about that but i i i'm actually really curious i was talking about this i don't want to say much because i don't want to be full disclosure you know i am an investor a moderate investor in some space flight companies i definitely believe this is the future i try to put some investments in there this is not legal advice or uh blah blah whatever other disclaimer i'm not trying to tell you what to do at all well anything with stocks uh it's basically gambling but i am really curious like when like i've been around watching launches for seven or eight years now very intently i know the emotional sways of a launch getting scrubbed or you know not working or whatever and i have a pretty deep intimate knowledge of how these things work how big of a deal certain things are yay and no i'm really curious what it's going to be like to a marketplace that's woefully unfamiliar with the ins and outs of space flight like it's going to be weird our market values gonna you know totally change because of scrubs or failures and it's weird it's a weird time we live in um yeah that's that's that um this is from um southern armstrong or south armstrong sorry do you think an artificial gravity space station would be a beneficial replacement for the iss i think for long-term habitation absolutely we should you know if we want to actually have people living and working in space for more than six months at a time yeah we're gonna have to start doing some artificial gravity it might not need to be one to one you might only need point five g's point three g's i don't know whatever is a relatively decent compromise between size and mass and complexity of a space station while still offering maybe maybe you literally can just have um sections that are that are you basically like you sit in a sauna or something you know and you have these sections that do produce one jeep through centrifugal force you know a spinning section in a counter rotating section somewhere else or something um you know where astronauts go and hang out or sleep or something where they still experience probably not sleep because you want to be able to put weight through your through your bones through your spine and all that stuff um yeah i don't know i i would hope that we're getting close to that kind of reality that kind of future where we'll have the capabilities and the the willingness and the uh it'll be affordable enough to be able to launch payloads like that um and do yeah do artificial gravity space stations someday um let's see here uh on this topic uh uh mo d 1982 do i plan on covering other soviet tech beyond engines for example space stations let me tell you after this much stuff with soviet engines you'd think i'd be like i never want to think about them again actually i learned so much about soviet rocket program that i can't wait to and space programs that i can't wait to just keep talking about them there will be a lot of videos about upcoming uh things like one that i'm really excited about is of course comparing directly the baron to the space shuttle i know there's been some that compare um but they're you know a lot of no definitely no offense i think that the videos that i've seen from some really really good creators are really good videos but i've learned a lot of stuff that i had no idea about you know absolutely zero idea i just learned a lot so i'm really really excited to make a video comparing brawn and the space shuttle give you guys my opinion on it on which one i think is better who knows let's see here [Music] let's see i'm gonna keep going uh i'm trying to read ahead a little bit uh this is a good question from razembot uh how do you think they set the target orbit transfer a lot of pre-computed data or just a few numbers perigee apigee inclination et cetera and then the onboard computer does all the calculations and control online guidance navigation and control is something that i just really know basically nothing about um you can learn you can read into it with some older rockets you know saturn v and stuff uh you can read into that system pretty heavily um and it's definitely changed you know i do know like the the nowadays we're getting a lot more 3d about the equations which is actually really complicated math uh electron can roll and and know it's it's vector space i guess uh no matter its axis and can account for that um same with falcon 9 uh but traditionally a rocket uh say soyuz rockets of course i'm going to bring them up only had a pitch and yaw program they didn't have a roll program in other words they literally they could roll they could roll to keep their heading and make sure they're staying pitching down range down the right inclination down the right target line but the crazy thing is um they actually in russia they actually had to turn the launch pads to align the rocket to where it's heading they wouldn't do a roll program or anything to actually whoop you know and continually do that not now again that's different than the than the saturn 5 and space shuttle they actually had a roll program and they would lift off from the same set inclination from the same heading they'd roll to align to where they're going and then they would pitch over but they would still always roll and then pitch and they would do that because it's a lot easier math-wise to literally remove that variable of role and just only do a pitch program now like i said nowadays a lot of these companies are removing that and they're actually doing the the the computational whatever it is you know i this is where it's just like black magic to me i have no idea like i don't know computer does thing reads this thing does a thing and it all works out but they are smart enough now to actually do kind of that 3d space so um hopefully that's good oh there's a rocket lab tweet splashdown stage confirmed helicopter has eyes on it that's awesome that's very good so that's great news from our friends at rocket lab that was actually from peter beck himself um let me pull this up here um [Music] copy link i'm i'm being old grandpa about this right now today i'm not okay so yeah we have confirmation from peter beck the ceo of rocket lab splash down of the stage confirmed helicopter has eyes on it that is super super cool so i wonder if they actually got shots of it and got to see it uh while in the air still that's kind of my question was you know did they get close enough get eyes on it while it was still in the in the sky and how are they feeling about that you know because that's that's definitely the the multi-million dollar question at this point so very cool congrats on a so hopefully we'll actually hear about it right now maybe music is fading welcome back to the webcast of rocket labs 22nd electron mission love at first insight if you are just joining us today's launch included a successful on-time liftoff at 2 38 pm new zealand local time or 1 38 am utt after passing through max q electron completed a clean first and second stage separation while the second stage continued on its journey to orbit we received confirmation of the first stage splashdown we haven't been able to bring you live footage of the first station descent from the helicopter but we will keep you posted on today's recovery efforts via our social media channels meanwhile the kickstage has completed its first pass of earth in an elliptical orbit and we're now waiting for its curie engine to ignite and position it into a circular orbit where we will drop off the two black sky satellites for this mission we've introduced a new deployment process with an adapted kickstage that will see three separation events take place we've mounted a structure to the kickstage called a top hat which acts as an extension of the upper stage to allow the two black sky satellites to fit within electron-spheric dimensions the first black sky satellite that sits on top of the top hat will deploy first before the top hat itself is ejected followed by the third and final separation event the deployment of the second black sky satellite those should happen in quick succession after the upper stages curie engine burn let's bring up this animated view of that payload deployment and listen into mission control for the call outs sweet so yeah they set that little tiny third stage to kick stage um and what's fun about the kickstage is this allows it so the second stage is actually on a sub-orbital trajectory so when the second stage uh it's not even enough high enough velocity to not even create any space degree they don't have to do a reentry burn they just literally let it uh deorbit and then meanwhile uh this kick stage global 14 has deployed successfully so they must have done the burn already she made it sound like it's coming up even though it's we have heard confirmation from mission control that the first black sky satellite has been deployed from the upper stage that satellite will drift away for a few moments before we eject the top hat adapter ready to deploy our second satellite so cool they stack payloads like that so yeah instead that white kind of cone thing is is another satellite of equal size and the adapter has deployed successfully stand by for the final payload there we go the top hat has been ejected clearing the way for the final deployment on this mission of the second black sky payload that should take place in around 30 seconds or so so let's wait for the call from our operators sweet that's so cool obviously this is a simulation there aren't cameras floating up there in the same orbit at the same time so these are obviously simulated views simulated animated views not simulated just animated animated renderings and global 15 deployment confirmed sweet there's some great news there that the second black sky satellite has successfully deployed by electron on this love at first insight mission so with both satellites successfully deployed that completes tonight's 22nd electron mission and officially brings the count of satellites deployed by rocket lab to 107. thank you and congratulations to our customers black sky and space flight for yet another successful mission we are all really looking forward to our next launch with you in a few weeks time a huge thank you to you at home for sticking with us through this live stream as well we're going to end the broadcast here but keep an eye on rocket labs facebook twitter and instagram pages for updates on how we fed with electrons recovery and of course all things rocket lab thank you for joining us this is rocket lab mission control signing off sweet wow someone's already on the pad already that is awesome uh huge congratulations everyone give a round of applause for rocket lab and the teams there and of course the teams at black sky and space flight for arranging that flight that was that was wonderful that was exactly what i wanted to see today i mean sans the helicopter reviews would have been really cool too uh i will forgive them for that but just a smooth uh just pristine mission congratulations i love seeing that that oh and i'm not gonna lie i get a little bit stressed out ever you know ever since the last uh the last time i streamed rocket lab they had the failure they had their their second failure um so this is the first time i've streamed streamed since then i definitely have a little bit more i was a little more nervous you know it's it's that's the reality of spaceflight it is it all has to go perfectly literally one little wire crossed or one little anything and you can fail your mission there's thousands and thousands of moving parts and events and all of them have to work perfectly any one of those things fails and you're likely not going to succeed in delivering your customers payload so it's scary it is scary to watch this stuff but it's exciting it's it's rewarding when it does work out so um yeah see so it's not me but you know what i i'm definitely not that uh what's that called uh paranoid or whatever the two times i think that i streamed failures i was wearing a rocket a piece of rocket lab merch we should look into that uh discord go back and look at uh what was the um stop counting or whatever one and there was the other one after that so yeah i'm not superstitious but i was wearing rocket lab merch for both those and thinking i'm gonna wear their electron hat today and then it failed or something i'm gonna wear their their shirt and then it failed so not superstitious but i'm just kidding all right so we got a few more questions here before i wrap up um let's see one second here let me um okay so a great question here from from uh casser caesar casser or something i don't know uh do you think neutron will ever be human rated yes of course they uh not of course because actually peter beck has always said we're not going to fly meat he didn't want to fly people or humans but then when they did the the neutron announcement he said uh that he doesn't ever want to eat his hat again so he uh he said it will be certified to fly humans so yeah so there we go it should be certified i don't know if it will fly humans but they're going to just pre-certify it anyway in case there's ever doors that open up uh that would have them you know who knows if it has the payload capacity they could win contracts with you know any of these other launch providers that are you know not launch providers but these uh you know boeing starliner there's sierra nevada's uh dream chaser uh there's there's a handful of companies now that have very capable spacecraft uh that just pay for a ride so maybe if neutron was cost competitive and human certified sure why not um so this is um from anti-geysering musical wolves i i don't know what did they mean by anti-geysering i don't know if i heard that i don't know if can anyone help out with that i don't know if i'm familiar enough i didn't hear that and i i don't know what what they what they would have meant by anti-geysering either it's a great question i'm sorry musical wolves thank you though for your question um oh that's awesome angus gotta got their first picture rocket pictures in flight congratulations isn't it careful it's very very addicting once you once you see and witness a rocket and then take pictures of it and get review it and relive that moment it's very addicting so just be careful um yeah oh part of the deluge system they said geysering anti-geysering i don't know never heard that term before so i'm afraid i don't have any insight on that um this is a great question here from howitz do those batteries stay in orbit or is it not circular yet when they drop them because we are currently above uh above liberation velocity um so yeah it's it's 100 you're 100 right in saying they're not circularized so especially when those two batteries eject they are very much suborbital so those batteries will burn up on reentry they're relatively small they're they are at very high velocity so they will entirely burn up a very small amount not that don't really worry too much about the environmental impact of that i don't think any of it would make it even to the ground or anything like that and the upper stage um you know again like i kind of mentioned they they deploy a kickstage so the upper stage will actually just come back uh you know come back around and re-enter basically um on kind of the opposite side of the earth-ish or whatever uh because that's what the kickstage does the kickstage gets up to apogee the highest point in the elliptical orbit of the sub-orbital elliptical orbit raises the orbit so that it is in its proper orbit but the first stage didn't do that or the second stage i mean sorry it didn't do that so it's going to just re-enter and that will burn up those batteries so um hey awesome thank you uh frankie salamander for saying hi um not really thank you see hobbs why swap and not just make the battery twice the size why carry around dead weight that's the real reason if you don't eject the the ejection of the batteries is what helped make them close and be able to be a viable small sat launch provider if you're carrying around that deadweight don't forget when batteries drain they don't really lose mass like at all you know batteries empty and batteries full are basically the same mass i think there actually oddly is like a very small minute difference in electron density something weird if i remember right there is actually but i'll just say they they weigh the same empty or or full right and that's not the same with rocket fuel normally when you have an actual turbine and you have a turbo pump you are losing you know you're you're spending fuel which then makes the vehicle lighter uh in order to spin your pumps so and it's a lot more dense rocket feels a lot more dense than lithium ions like 100 times more dense basically or 50 times substantially more dense so now you're carrying on this big heavy um undensed uh uh relatively unenergetic thing so you might as well eject it as soon as you know you're not using it so they basically eject those batteries uh so they don't have to carry around a double the size battery which that would then detract directly from their payload mass say you put up uh you know have to have you say you have 100 kilograms of the batteries and now you have to have 200 kilograms well you're going to remove 100 kilograms of payload capacity and that my friend is not good so uh all right let's see this is uh a great question from uh kind kind master 123 is your music non-copyrighted for youtube uploads thank you for the response i intentionally make it so my music is not in those systems that would copyright flag i do ask that if you use my music i encourage you to use my music for you know for your own personal youtube channels or educational youtube channels uh but please just throw a link in the description and a little credit on screen if you use my music it's my gift to you i've been there as a creator uh i never wanted to i was always afraid of getting copyright strikes or even having the song title ownership change and then those people sue you and take down your videos that won't be the case so i always was like i'm just going to make my own music that way i don't i don't want to worry about anyone taking you know copyright striking me for my music but i just wanted to do the same i wanted to return that favor to to other people that aren't going to sit there and make their own music for their own videos it is a bit ridiculous so please feel free to use my music now if it is a commercial thing or you want to license it for you know a commercial or you know by commercial i mean like not just a commercial but you know if it's a commercial thing let me know reach out and uh and i'll license it for you uh but it won't get copyright flagged on youtube so yeah how long do the jettison batteries stay in orbit they don't they aren't in orbit so they just re-enter and burn up uh very shortly thereafter um after ejection they pretty much um it's it's going to be less than an hour you know an orbit's about 90 minutes so it's depending on where they're at it might be 80 minutes 60 minutes something like that and and they will re-enter because they are sub-orbital um yeah uh this is a good question here from from man m it's a decent sized helicopter they post pictures of their helicopter a decent amount um it's i believe it's is this the actual one that's going to be uh doing the the catching was it this one i forget uh yeah it's that size of the helicopter so not huge um but the booster itself is only if i recall it's only about uh a ton a metric ton uh 1 000 kilograms so 2200 pounds or so around there give or take i don't know 10 but it's pretty light but it's got to be getting close to you know that's that's also a pretty large thing and a fairly massive thing to be hanging off of a helicopter so yeah um let's see uh from winter coats um it's a good question did they say anything about their wallops operations no they did not that i think they're still waiting on approvals but that site is ready to go so i i can't wait for that um but i they have talked peter beck has talked about having neutron rocket fly from wallops but um things may change you know it's space flight that you got to stay nimble so um good chance that they that they've moved on from that so um let me try and get through man sorry there's you guys have asked some really good questions here um let's see this is from um stephen murr stephen welcome i recognize the name hey tim screaming from northern england uh following your fascinating behind the scenes tours at spacex firefly are there any others in the pipeline maybe even one day you get to new zealand maybe three years ago i went to new zealand and did exactly that rocket lab was actually one of the first ones they might be they were the first company to let me in their factory to do an interview with with peterbeck at a bit of a factory tour wasn't quite as open as what we see you know with starship that was insane um but you know it's it's i still got a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff of their factory that is on the channel here just type in you know everyday astronaut and look for uh look for that yeah yeah already done it love new zealand can't wait to make it back can't wait for this pandemic to be over so it's not a big deal to go down there for things um yeah i definitely so um let's see this is from evan hill um saying do you think it's a good idea for sls to use expensive rs25 engines after they use their supply of shuttle engines uh it will be 160 000 in engines per launch i think you're missing a few zeros there i think you're missing a lot of zeros what is it it's uh i have all these numbers under our on our video but the rs25 is what something like 10 or 15 million per engine it's a lot it's a lot i forget um yeah can someone remind me it's it's a lot of money so yeah if it was 160 000 in engines that would be amazing but i think you're likely a couple orders of magnitude off so um is it like 40 40 million what is it no it's like 125 million isn't it i'm gonna look at my own website everydayastronaut.com i'm gonna go to posted articles um and then i'm going to go down here and go to load more of these babies we'll go to artemis versus apollo somewhere here we had a pretty decent estimate uh the rs25 is 125 million dollars per engine thank you ryan ghostwriter ryan weber in our discord um for those numbers yeah i couldn't quite remember it's i knew it was a lot each engine is 125 million dollars so each engine each rs25 engine is more expensive uh than a falcon heavy launch basically you're about the same price so yeah i'm not gonna say it's cheap that's for sure um let's see this is from philip uh hey tim we still see heat shield tiles falling off during static fires do you think this would cause critical failure during the orbital test maybe if they get to re-entry and and starship doesn't survive because it lost too many tiles that will be the biggest success anyway they're not really that worried about re-entry if they get to stage separation and light the second stage engines and actually do everything that need to do with super heavy that will be a huge win they're really not that worried yet and the good thing is it is stainless steel so there's a chance that if you had just a few small you know say you had 20 missing tiles don't forget i mean the space shuttle has missed has had missing tiles before and that had an aluminum frame underneath it this is uh you know stainless steel much higher melting point than aluminum uh so the space shuttle has survived with with missing tiles uh baron came back or sorry boudon came back with like um yeah dozens of missing tiles and it survived so tiles uh although you you need overall to have that that heat load to be able to insulate enough uh i i i think you can handle small pockets of it just not big pockets so there you go uh let's see uh justin s could spacex launch a falcon 9 loaded with cameras next to starship for the orbital test flight i mean theoretically um yeah you theoretically could if they had a launch pad for the falcon 9 at starbase you theoretically could i mean but no you then you're just certifying lots of vehicles and having i mean it's an absolute nightmare and why would you have a falcon 9 for cameras you might as well do something tiny or like an electron even if you've just had electron first stage and followed it up to stage separation that'd be the coolest thing ever i'm going to pitch for that that they start doing that every single launch just launch a camera next year you'd obviously have a lot of risks and a lot of things that would not be worth it at all but it would be the coolest thing ever um let's see uh lightning rod tim is such a nerd that he muted his own music premiere to talk about rockets that wasn't my music premiere they used my music every launch so it's not a big deal but yeah you know that is old news rockets rockets are always changing um let's see this is from nadia plays games depots are useful when we start mining comet ice oh 100 when we start using uh in space resources you know when we start using isr you in situ resource utilization and and mining things on the moon and and mars and comets and asteroids then yeah depots will matter a lot a hundred percent um yeah this is from john depker this one is for my little girl victoria who's six hello victoria and john uh where did you get all the rocket models and spacesuit uh these are from all over the place so these ones in the in the case are ollie braun buzzspacemodels.com um this is a space shuttle uh or the saturn v lego set so that's actually legos and same with the space shuttle that's also legos uh the new shepard or the new glenn from blue origin is from blue origin uh then we have the firefly alpha from firefly we have electron from rocket lab they these are they sent them to me this is the new shop from blue origin then we have three ula rockets from the ola store so i got most of them from the launch providers but again we are working on getting it so that we can provide you guys with these because some of these are not available publicly so that's going to be really really fun and yeah the suit i bought as a joke like coming up on eight years ago now over eight years ago no coming up on eight years ago right about eight years ago uh i bought that as a joke and that kind of started this whole thing um if you need to know about that you can there is a video on youtube called how a space suit almost killed me i tell you the whole like origin story of everyday astronaut how i got into this whole thing and how i fell in love with space flight so yeah all right um this is from psychonaut 421 first off no need to apologize my friend um it's it's all right hey things happen and the thing about the internet that we all need to remember all of us me you everyone here is this really hard to read tone on the internet it's like almost impossible to read tone on both sides of things so when someone has a comment like hey we really miss you or we miss that you know uh in this case i think uh the this thing was uh maybe i shouldn't have hyped up the video that much and and you're absolutely right you know but i take it as you know we all take and read things differently and so for me like i i just wanna i need to defend my statement that like the reason i talk about the russian engine video and hype it up so much isn't to like falsely hype it up arbitrarily it's because i've been working on it this whole like people ask me all the time every day what are you up to where are you what are you working on when this and that's when i'm like i feel the need to update people like hey sorry i know it seems like i'm not doing anything but this is what i'm working on behind the scenes you know there's just a lot of people curious um yeah and i appreciate you saying something but i i it was no sweat off my back i appreciate you saying something but don't forget you know with the internet everyone uh yeah just a general reminder to all of us to that we're all on the same little tiny rock together and just to be encouraging to everyone and the things you said were completely true so um yeah and i hope that my answers weren't snarky back so if they were i apologize for that as well so um yeah just thanks for saying hi um okay so this is the uh so again for musical wolves the anti-guy geysering was mentioned slightly before liftoff i i missed it did let's see here um i am curious about that can we go back and listen to it because i i would like to try to hear that and and see if we can get a if someone can get a time stamp on that so we're not having to right before liftoff um i'm guessing we're talking something like hand okay i'm listening here i'll put up the audio for you guys replay mode anti-gun nine eight seven six five four three two wait maybe is that thing in like 30 seconds anti geysering deluge activated deluge activated it's a water deluge but i didn't hear anything else about anti does anyone know what what we're talking about there uh unfortunately i don't know musical wolves uh if someone finds the answer i'll try to say it here but yeah uh this is about the the falcon 9 model rocket when we're not we don't have pricing we don't have total landed price yet for ourselves our goal for this project originally our goal was under 500 which uh if you've shopped around for model rockets you know that that's uh actually pretty you know for a high detailed model that's pretty competitive uh i then said i really wanted to try to make it under 400 and i think we're going to do it i think we're coming in under 400 for a very high detailed model a very good high quality detailed model uh i think we're gonna be right under 400 and i'm really excited about that i think that's a great price point um again you know models are not cheap even uh no offense to the ula ones but they're really low fidelity like wooden models or something similar and they're still very very expensive so we're going to be as detailed as just about any other model out there configurable separateable usable and a beautiful package uh and durable and i think we're gonna be yeah i think we're gonna be under under 400. um i have not looked into quantized inertia uh this is really interesting i don't know this is where i'm like not theoretical physicist any any sense of any of this stuff i i unfortunately just have no idea what we're even talking about really so i would love to uh to learn how we can take advantage of vacuum energy but um getting elegantly getting rid of dark matter i have i have no idea that's that's definitely well outside of my my knowledge base but i'll keep that in mind if i run into it at some point i'll start reading or listening to someone talk someone that knows something uh about it and try to learn uh melissa mcdonald or mcdonald thank you for your membership again don't forget youtube members and patreon supporters the preview the full draft of our soviet video is up for review right now we're kind of beyond the review stage i think we have everything done um yeah so we probably likely won't see your feedback unless it's like urgent i'll still be checking on it but at this point we're kind of closing everything up it's starting to get a lot more solidified so making changes at this point is getting to be pretty uh painful so um this is awesome i love hearing literal literally key uh you probably inspired one for my college decision where i'm at now you made me realize how much i'd enjoy aerospace engineering so now i'm in huntsville yes that is that is what this is about that is that makes me super super happy everyone uh just just say thank you and and good luck to any any uh anyone pursuing their education right now uh i just this is a general thank you if you're out there trying to learn how to become a rocket scientist or an engineer or a you know uh mathematician if you're pursuing anything in the aerospace community or just if you're out there furthering your education thank you because i didn't at your age and i that's one of my biggest regrets and i still constantly debate should i go back to college now even in my mid-30s uh it's it's a regret of mine it's a really big regret of mine that i couldn't stick it out that i didn't have the willpower and the passion to pursue education in my early 20s and i i wish so bad that i had and that's a very sincere thing so those of you that want to go into the aerospace career you know you're going to need for most applications you're going to need a degree and i hope you're out there working your butt off for that degree and i hope that you're out there working your butt off to get us further into the cosmos and explore space because that's what it takes it's going to take you it's going to take that generation your generation to actually get us to mars get us further into the the solar system and help us understand our place amongst the stars more than anyone else so thank you uh thank you to literally key and to anyone else out there pursuing their education that means uh that's a lot so um on a totally different subject switching to channels here daniel herron as a compromise you can still use the title starship farts not a bad idea maybe instead of the entire history of the soviet rocket family tree i will just change the name to starship farts and maybe that will then boost the views ten times um let's see so that's awesome uh from frank uh brans hey tim or thanks tim thank you so much frank i'm gonna just get through these last ones here so i can wrap up and have dinner uh thank you very much and from uh john depker a space is hard but you make it easy uh me and my little one watch you nsf and a dude named scott we love you all uh or we love you thank you so much john and yeah of course there i'm i'm one of many many phenomenal channels on youtube covering space flight there is a lot of awesome youtubers out there dedicated people doing uh much more frequent uploads than i would ever ever consider even thinking about doing uh and covering stuff constantly uh the nsf team and and lab pottery team for all these live streams constantly is just insane um and all the other creators you know scott manley who's uploading at least once a week uh same with like felix and marcus and um all these guys are they're on this grind constantly uh to me uh i i feel good knowing that there's these excellent resources for people to get their their feed every day you know and they're to be fulfilled and and on top of everything all the time that's not me i can't even keep up with all this stuff i like i like what i do i've never really done that it's funny because people always like why you're missing out on this tim what are your thoughts on this like i've never done that i've i mean besides our ludicrous future podcast where i'd casually talk about things i've never been someone to frequently upload and have like a you know an opinion on everything and uh breaking things down every week of what happened with every bolt on a vehicle or anything that's not me i i like trying to take on the bigger picture things and it's hard to figure out subjects like the aerospike engine raptor engine or soviet rocket engines all these all these different things i enjoy them that's what i enjoy the most because those are the things that i've had the biggest question marks you know um it's it's takes a lot a lot of thought and love for me to try to figure out how to how to do these videos and i enjoy that it's a fun challenge so all right this is uh one of the last two questions here greg swanson will the falcon 9 keep its fins folded on ascent or they eventually be locked open like starship booster will be i'm guessing they'll always fold in the falcon 9's grid fins on ascent so this is a great question because you will notice that starship is going to keep its grid fins out during ascent but the falconer is more or less relatively locked um they're not worried about squeezing every little drop of performance out of it anymore it's it's just a workhorse it's got a backlog of things why risk it at this point you know i just don't see any benefit of them removing the little bit of hardware to lift those grid fins um you know i think that uh when you're starting from scratch like super heavy no big deal and startup is super heavy no big deal but i don't think i don't think we'll see anything like that on falcon 9 so that's just kind of my personal opinion but yeah bulbard thank you for becoming a member ian face you have bridged the gap between my adopted grandson and i thanks for for being you tim and doing what you do it's huge i mean how many interviews have you had with beyond matt respect thank you so much ian and to you and your adopted grandson i'm that makes me really happy that you have a bond with them to be able to share uh these this is these exciting moments together that's that's huge and um yeah a family is is sometimes who you choose and in the case of adoption you're literally choosing your family so that's really important really precious and uh means a lot that uh that you and you and your your kids are raising uh someone that's that's amazing so uh thank you for sharing that bond with me and i hope that you continue to do so because there's a lot of really exciting things coming so all right and from nick clark appreciate all of your streams and all of your videos keep with the good work thank you so much nick again thank you you guys are awesome this community is amazing i would not be doing this stuff i probably would be no i would be doing this stuff i was doing this stuff before i had any kind of audience to do it to i just i i can't help but it's it's exciting it's things that i uh you know lose sleep over still sometimes uh but it's it's really really fun so i think it's time for me to wrap up tomorrow uh again you will hear more from me again tomorrow we're doing an hour ludicrous future uh reunion show look for my twitter feed look on my twitter feed if you want to join in that we'll be catching up on the last like six months of life together uh probably for a while no real time stamps uh other than i want to keep trying to finish this video and get it get it copy and send up get ready to publish so we can publish it next week so all right thank you guys so much for tuning in and joining me it really means a lot uh again if you want ten percent off our air spike shirt everydayastronaut.com use coupon code um coupon code launch day but i was also trying to read this last one from gary geysering occurs when he enters the liquid oxygen tank system and forms gas bubbles which is bad anti-geysering systems minimalize this minimizes i learned something i did hear a little bit of uh speak with that with tom marcusek from uh from firefly when he was talking about that kind of stuff that stuff fascinates me i really need to learn more about thermodynamics and break that down for you guys so um thank you guys so much and spencer john spencer that's gonna do it for me i'm tim dodd the everyday astronaut bringing space down to earth and hopefully a soviet family tree video before the next time you see me live maybe-ish but for sure before thanksgiving because otherwise i i i i won't exist anymore that's gonna do it for me i did not even ever make another video bye guys [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] you
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Channel: Everyday Astronaut
Views: 205,405
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Keywords: Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin, Jeff Bezos Rocket, Jeff Bezos Space, Wally Funk, NASA, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos Rocket Launch, Texas Rocket Launch, Jeff Bezos Texas, Blue Origin Rocket, New Shepard Rocket, Blue Origin New Shepard, Wally Funk Rocket Launch, SpaceX
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Length: 127min 55sec (7675 seconds)
Published: Wed Nov 17 2021
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