Want to polish paint? Advice from the World's Best Polisher-Jason Killmer! Podcast #87

if you are just starting out polishing paint or you want to level up your game this is the podcast for you hi I'm Ivan I'm Nick and this is Jason Kilmer on the DIY detailed podcast the Sandman One Wing uh as far as I'm concerned probably the world's best at polishing paint Jason welcome to the DIY detail garage thanks for having me I appreciate it guys what do you what do you think of it so far I like it I I like the the old greedy feel I mean if this Billy could tell stories it would tell a lot of stories yeah and you know part of the stories would be this used to be a really dirty shop we've cleaned it up a lot and Jason is our first guest in the shop this is the first vehicle that we're having in the shop yes we have a little Ferrari tester Rosa behind us no big deal yeah no actually there's a lot of intentionality behind that right this vehicle you hear uh obviously you can see the sign behind us we'll talk about C6 Ceramics later but you know we're launching polishers right we're speaking to the DIY the Enthusiast out there there but also someone who does this for a living right these products and what we have to teach like there's a lot to it right and Jason just asn't polish for a living uh Jason chases Perfection and you've been doing this for 20 some years now yeah at that level uh just about 20 years now yeah he hasn't found Perfection yet so those of you out there thinking that I make perfect paint no but you can make darn good paint and that's what we're here to talk yeah we talk about making darn good paint you've spent a year on a vehicle can we just do a quick bio real quick of like who is Jason Kilmer if you've been living under a rock uh I know you've won a lot of awards many of which people may not even have heard of so just to give someone the elevator speech of like who they're who they're hearing from sure um two of the major types of awards is Pebble Beach that is European Concourse type level and then there's the Riddler which is Hot Rod custom car I've won them both multiple times and then a whole host of um other wins SEMO wins magazine covers uh have worked with many other companies in our industry uh helping products teaching training um a little bit everything yeah uh Jason is very humble uh we'll give him that but he's won more things than you could possibly think of winning and he's been behind the scenes on a lot and a lot of the TV shows that you love and watch about you know the builders and the that midnight frenzy of the car is being delivered to the customer tomorrow and we have to get it perfect and all that Jason is the one behind the camera or you know when the cameras turn off he's the one actually doing the work yeah yeah yeah and it's a lot of these garages this type of atmosphere where it's the floor is not as cling uh it's a dirty floor and we got to do what we got to do yeah so I know that you've talked about Michael Jordan being kind of an idol of yours I think of just more recently Kobe Bryant as the guy who just had this amazing work ethic and if people want to get to your level they got to start at the beginning but I want first of all folks to know the level of effort you've put in over the years and maybe it's a consistency thing where you practice a lot but I don't know like where would you start with somebody if they want to get to be the best polisher that they can be whether they've never done it before or they've they've been detail for a while you have to start from somewhere whatever that is everybody's different now with me it's completely different because I also have a disability so F to go backwards I had to work that much harder just to be equal so I took certain principles and procedures that I learned online you know we didn't have the online when I started you mentioned disability if folks don't know you can we start there I was born with uh cver policy on my right side but I also have no lack of depth perception on my left eye so not only am I have a disability or two of them but they're opposite so that makes it even more of a challenge so I I look at at as it was always a challenge for me to get to a certain level and as each stair level I took or step I took I got a little bit better a little bit better and a little bit better better you have to give yourself Grace but also you have to hammer down and keep on going if if you how far you want to go is how far you want to go you have to put in the time the effort and the work to do it where did you start no internet you're facing the obstacles that that you're born withes those have also been your blessings it's a it's a b it's a it's a blessing that I have a disability yes because I see things and I do things differently I have to focus more on what I I have than what I don't have so that's why I I I really like the Simplicity of your lineup because it's simple you don't have very many choices so what that forces you to do as you you go up in your skill set right as you go through this journey it gives you not very many choices so you have to really hone in on each product and know what it can do and what it can't do and everything else in between excellent now we're here to talk about polishing we're here to talk about sanding and one of your nicknames is the sand Sandman yeah and the reason for that is Jason you know a lot of people they they brag online that hey I spent 30 hours polishing a car uh how many hours do you spend on a car um minimum if we're sanding or polishing doing anything a little more critical it's 150 on up yeah and you hours you spent months on some CS months in a year on one yeah so there's a lot more more involved to Jason's level of sanding and polishing and most of us in the detailing World whether you're a beginner or even a professional detailer we're generally working on factory paint and factory paint is very very different than what Jason typically works on you worked on factory paint obviously You' worked on you know the the Pebble Beach Concourse cars a lot of them are original paint and that actually brings more value and more more points to them if they have that original paint so in some cases you're polishing for perfection in some cases you're in for preservation preservation exactly yeah and when we're dealing with factory paint we want to polish for preservation yep on on a on a perfect level yes where where we say sanding and sand to improve not remove on Factory clear is just trying to improve usually that scratch usually that key scratch or that bike accident that your uh your son or daughter may have done in your brand new car right trying to improve it sand to improve not remove and Factory clear that's the car that you have that you got from the factory it hasn't been repainted in a body shop it hasn't been custom built in one of your you know garages where you're doing these show car so so this is the vehicle that that that was purchased has the scratch you say sand to improve not remove yep exactly exactly so we take a couple passes at it and then hands off and we polish all our scratches and it at that point it is what it is yeah and if you want to accept the fact that this scratch if I can't polish it out I'm going to repaint this panel then you might want to go a little you go a little bit further exactly exactly so if you were going to sand hand sand MH OEM clear coat I I would say hand sand because every pass you take you have control with a machine there are some levels of of control that you don't have so um I I prefer to hand sand with a little block on a small scratch yeah so you're not are you ever like hand sanding an entire panel or that that's goes against what we're saying we're just trying to emergency it's so bad I'm going to take it to the body shop I'll try I'll try to just acutely handle this particular usually we just stay within the the perimeter of the scratch okay yeah on on OEM on OEM yeah when he's doing the show cars obviously he's polishing know sand polishing every square inch including the engine the transmission the tunnel the frame the suspension name it he's polished it y uh and they're very they're two very very different levels of what people are doing very much so most detailers are working on factory paint and again sanding on factory paint has its advantages but it has its disadvantages and one of them is you know a lot of people we see that we get this question a lot how do I remove orange peel sand it yeah but is it a good thing to remove orange no uh with today's Factory clear coats that we have in the early '90s the late ' 80s I've done a lot of those cars we had a lot more material now we don't have that and it's different paint different materials a lot of these panels are aluminum most of them are aluminum and then plastic beforehand with all the paint we had steel which is different so it's a it's a different level that we have now and the the cost of the vehicles are higher so it's a really it's a catch 22 honestly and you know today to repaint a car is more expensive than the first cars I own that I paid new so you know a good paint job is upwards of $10,000 oh yeah I mean a quick bumper repair could be two or three grand right so that's why we never really tell you to use sandpaper on OEM clear coat no so but if you ever were to do it what's the most aggressive grit you would ever use on a scratch um I typically tell people no no lower more than 1500 and the lower the number the more aggressive the lower the number the more aggressive yeah and just a few passes and that's it you just have to be okay with it being there or not being there because you want the paint on your car and so you do that and then would you go to 2,000 after that yes I step my grits grits up so 15 2003 usually um if you do a good job on those previous grit scratches you can get by sometimes with just hand rubbing it and being really controlled and precise what do you mean hand rubbing it just taking a a a a towel a microfiber towel and some Polish and just hand rubbing it the the final sand scratch sand scratch 2000 grit if you've done it right like you said you know um the the Finish that's left by 3000 grit is very easily polished and some uh sandpaper manufacturers will sell you a 5,000 and an 8,000 grit which is basically polished at that point yeah it becomes very easy at that point one thing that I asked you about when we first met six years ago at at the rag company in Idaho I said what what scares you and you said every time you put sandpaper to paint so do not take this lightly can you communicate that message in case people thought we're now advertising just go sand the Ferrari no um because we're taking Material off a car that actually should be on the car on the show car side of things it's different it is the designed to take off material so we have more material to work with to take off the material to get as as flat and smooth as possible on an oem level we don't have that built into the uh the paint system so the fear yeah the the fear is making a mistake that has to go to the paint shop and cost a lot of money cost a lot of money and also you know on something like this as an example if this vehicle were repainted it devalues the vehicle so the factory paint is worth its waiting gold on probably is worth its waiting gold uh you know the prices these days but basically you can never replace the factory clear coat The Body Shop clears it's a completely different paint system that they can do in the factory than they do in a body shop in a factory they're baking it at 325° you we can't do that in a body shot you know when you get the booth up to like 140 150 some people push it a little higher than that but the car is assembled there's Plastics everywhere there's all sorts of things going on in the car whereas in the factory when they're painting these they're empty it's just metal that's going into a tank or primer and then it you know goes down the line so they can heat it up much higher than we can do with today's cars and like Jason said a lot of these cars have plastic parts on them now uh and the the way they're painting them in the factory cannot be replicated in the body shop that makes sense so obviously having that healthy level of fear is good all right let's just talk about broadly speaking there's someone out there watching this or listening to this podcast they want to get better at polishing paint what is something back that up they want to start polishing paint they want to start polishing paint yeah yeah like you've never done it before yeah what how would you start I like to go with a rotary and you can go as simple as buying a cordless drill um just to feel how that rotation is on a painted surface preferably a junkyard Hood a fender something like that um get the motion get the skill down of how the tool is that's first and foremost once you get that down and you start to feel comfortable then you can see how you're doing with different lights and spot lights and then from that point just keep on practicing a little bit higher and a little bit higher and and really test your skills that's how I usually like tell people to start out you mentioned light I think lighting is so critical when you're looking at paint I know that you sometimes never use any because we're teaching a method that is simple and works for everybody and gets them to perfectly acceptable super shiny paint depending on what they use whether it's wool you know waffle depending on the paint right right we're talking about taking it to this degree with Jason right so so I think lighting is super important what if people don't even know what they are seeing they don't know what they're seeing or not seeing like what light should they use what advice do you have for lighting um I would say just a single point light so that could be your flashlight on your phone shut off all the lights or if it's dark outside like it is right now you shine that singular Source about 4 feet off the surface what you're trying to see and you can see most of the time little sh you know shiny scratches and swirls yeah that's our Baseline that's what we have to work with and they're going to start to see what you see using that kind of lighting right so you're just starting out maybe a cordless drill a rotary you know we teach a flat pad how how do you like to help people with a rotary for the first time so it's it's it's a simple movement um you use one hand you just pull the trigger and keep your hand you got to keep good posture and good body mechanic keep it within your frame of your body then I just teach people just to move it if you want to go to the right I tilt it to the right or the left and then tilt it to the right and come back it's a simple movement it's within 2 to 3 de tilt yeah the the Tilt is not enough to lift the pad off the surface it's just it's not really a tilt even it's almost just a bit it's pressure pressure on the on the outside just to see what it does and get familiar with what little micro movements of my wrist affect this this polisher wait so you'll notice when I'm polishing I hold the machine with this finger wrapped around the cord yep and one finger underneath the front I'm letting the machine balance itself and Jason does the left and right movement I do the up and down yeah ends up being the same thing so I I vary the movement by my back hand usually my right hand going up and down so if you lift up a little bit it goes one way if you go down it goes the other way why why do you recommend folks maybe try a rotary first because it's a smooth action with a da it's it's a great tool fantastic tool to have since the invention of the da Sanders and polishers that we have but a rotary just a smooth action and it's it's one it's a little bit hard to master so I like to start there as a baseline because a DA is fairly simple to use but if You' never use either maybe the rotary is is less complicated because you haven't heard all the spiel about the Rotary going to make you burn paint and if you can get the rotary then the da is is a lot simpler to use or um it's they're different movement so that you use the tool a little bit differently but it's it's still the same body mechanics yeah so you as long as you keep it within your body frame and just keep it nice and even you're going to be okay and the The Da because of the vibration or not the vibration but the the oscillating Mo motion of it it's a a little easier to control in one way but a little harder in another and like Jason said it's a very different machine but I always taught people I always start teaching people with the rotary as well and the reason for that is first of all if they've followed any Facebook or you know back in the day forums and stuff like that they're afraid of the rotary it's this big monster that's going to rip paint off the car within 5 seconds and getting them over that fear is like oh wait a minute this is easier than I thought and someone who's never ever polished before remember at carp's warehouse we had Jason's wife Amy and she had never touched polisher in her life and which one did she prefer the rotary yeah uh you know we had Emily here same thing Emily the Audi nerd they're they're smooth and quiet I get it now I was never a rotary guy until I heard your sermons on high you know finish with a rotary and it's like I'm interrupting you but the rotary is is awesome and if you start with it I could see how that's a good foundation cuz I started 6 years ago I just had a dual action on my hand right away you know when we started the Dual Action wasn't the thing not not even not even on the radar there wasn't even microfibers no so yeah what did you cut with no he's talking the the towels to the towels yeah Terry towels we were using t-shirts on show cars yeah t-shirt or diapers diapers to you if you had money you had cotton diapers yeah I wonder that's why I had t-shirts I didn't have any money oh my gosh that's wild so how did your like my business when I had a shop was Hawk Pro detailing and I I looked at it like I see defects in your paint like a hawk views its prey like I looked at the eyesight as a very important thing so I wonder with you your disability what did that enable you I'm sure some senses are more heightened and others are so what did that help you with in terms of polishing paint so my right eye is my dominant eye it it goes in out of focus like a camera so I can see defects a lot quicker than than normal people can and you learn over time to not look what's in the paint you're looking just at the surface of the paint and playing with lighting you see things very different uh if you can learn to look at the surface of the paint and not look into the paint that really makes a difference but it takes a lot like you've mentioned it a couple times I'll see something on a car from 10 ft away and you're going like how did you see that you don't you never you're the only person you and then a friend of mind Jamie Gonzalez and like both of you and then Jason as well with backgrounds and painting and body shops like who have painted cars before you guys show me stuff that I thought I knew every whatever I didn't know anything but I thought I saw everything and I I didn't see any of the stuff you guys were pointing out no and you know for Jason here you do show cars you're doing them in that shop and that frenzy of you know everybody trying to assemble the car the last minute you get it as good as you can and then you bring it to the show floor with different lighting and you see stuff you didn't you seen before yeah we bring we bring spray guns we bring polishers we bring sandpaper we bring anything that can happen does happen and will happen we bring it with us yeah so how does that wisdom translate then to the person who's just starting out or wanting to get better you know maybe they want to remove defects right but they may not realize that by removing defects that inflicts its own scratch pattern and they have to polish that out like remember these is people just starting out they may not know any of this we you we've already forgotten half the stuff you just have to start somewhere and use something as your Baseline if you want basically paint supposed to look like colored glass if if a piece of glass was colored and no scratches in it that's what we would like to get as as close as possible yeah but again that's the show car yeah the daily driver when someone would come to my shop and say I want you to wet sand I want you to eliminate the orange peel I want a piece of glass yeah we could do that that was a service we offered but I would my question to them would be what kind of trailer are you picking it up on yeah yeah they're like huh yeah what and if it's a daily driver sure you can do that but you're inflicting a lot of uh wear and tear on yourself because keeping it clean is going to be difficult everything is going to mark that paint well and now you can see it more because you've removed the peel which hides a lot of that stuff now you can see it even more now Orange Peel I know what it is but I didn't know what it was for a while sure what is orange peel and then once you tell me that is having a lot of it mean that you have a lot of clear coat on the paint okay Orange Peel is basically that's what it is you look at a surface of an orange skin it looks kind of peely and textur that's what when clear coat comes out of a robot or a spray gun it comes out peely now you can adjust that from a manufacturer standpoint or a body up standpoint but it's going to come out peely at some level yeah cuz the the way the paint is transferred from the gun to the car is miniature droplets and those droplets if you think of you know depositing drops of water on the surface we all love beads on our car right that's basically what it's doing but we're putting beads on top of beads on top of beads and you're ending up with this undulating surface and another way of looking at it and I've seen cars that are almost this bad golf ball so it's the texture of the orange that the texture on the orange peel is what we're referring to and a golf ball would be an extreme example and I'm sure there are cars out there that have been you know painted in the backyard uh with a spray can that they get pretty close to aall yep I've seen better and I've seen worse than that yeah yeah I think a common misconception could be cuz I used to think this is that a lot of that look meant I had a lot of clear coat to work with let me grab the Sandpaper on OEM paint and start to go to town that's not the case no no not not it's actually probably most further from the truth because you can adjust how things are sprayed to look really poor but where did the paint go it didn't go in the car sometimes it goes up in the air so if it Go doesn't go in the car it's in the air that means you don't have as much material to work with yeah and wow when you think about it the the most expensive part of a car today is the paint it's more expensive than engine it costs more uh you know maybe not a car like this but we'll talk your average daily driver you know your your Chevy your Ford your Honda whatever you can get a long block engine installed for a lot less than repainting the car with a quality paint job you can get you know there's some franchises that don't do they still do a $1,000 paint job I know they're they're even way up so yeah uh but basically you can get that you know that cheap paint job is still more expensive than an engine so you need to maintain your paint and with the manufacturers aspect of it that is the most expensive they're literally paying paint to dry so the less coats they can put on the less amount of time it spends curing the faster they can crank the cars up so there's a reason why they're putting less clear on the on the vehicles and again why you should be very yeah careful when you're when you're thinking about heavy defect remov right and if we think of that um the orange b as Peaks and valleys well 20 years ago 30 years ago yeah the peak was a lot higher and the valley gave you that you know 50 Micron or 2 Ms thickness now the peak is at that 2 mil thickness and the valley is maybe down at 1 mil or less or less or less do you use a paint thickness gauge um yeah I use it as a guide on OEM when it's when it's not when it's been resprayed body work that sort of thing it doesn't even read on the gauge because we have so much material to try to get as flat and level as possible yeah is there a brand you recommend is the $50 one on Amazon or the $2,000 like it does it matter no I don't I I think they're pretty inconsistent in general yeah uh we that's a whole another podcast but yeah yeah and you know the paint thickness gauge like Jason said it's just a guide it gives you a general idea but if you put the pink Li this gaug on the vehicle and whether it be a $50 one or a $5,000 one you put on the paint you move it over a qu inch it's going to give you a different reading because that paint is never the same thickness throughout and even after you've done you know countless hours on a panel or days on a panel it's still not it's not super consistent I mean within a half an inch it may go you know quite a bit more or less I'd like to settle a debate once and for all cut with a rotary or finish with a rotary I personally like to cut with rot rot um if I have the time I like to finish with a rotary too but a lot of times we don't have that time so it's nice to have the da as that really solid middle step and finishing step or you know like I said if I have that time I I really enjoy using a rotary I honestly do is a lot of times now we don't have that time on some of these projects interesting can you talk about the time and again we're talking about hundreds of hours hundreds of like the jobs you do you know we're listening so uh why does it take longer to finish with a rotary in your world because we're looking at it from a microscopic small like half inch away with the lights off so I'm going after every little flaw the problem is when you put one flaw in you replace it with 10 other flaws so when you use a rotary and you're looking at it say it's jet black and you're looking at it from a microscope level it takes more time to be consistent and slow and methodical it just takes a great deal of time right I think the finish with the rotary is phenomenal though but I I can see how the I can see how at that level maybe you see more I don't know we talked about not only that uh you know we've we've designed a system that's simple and easy and accessible uh some of the the tools that Jason is using well not the tools itself but the pads and the polishes they're a lot more specialized and finishing with them takes a lot more skill we have a rotary jeweling pad that literally anyone can pick up and finish without without swirl marks and things like that if they follow our instructions which is lowest speed on your rotary Flat Pad lightly damp pad yeah no pressure no pressure you know enjoy yourself uh and the enjoy yourself is actually the most important part if you're stressed out doing this it's not going to end well uh but if you're doing this as wow this is fun it's easy it's it's you know it's enjoyable to do then you're going to do a better job it's my favorite the rotary jeweling pad with the system that you taught me like my favorite it's smooth it's quiet it's enjoyable right and it feels like not that I'm tuned out but the way that I used to polish paint I was trying to be as good as you and it was like I was in that dark shop until 3:00 in the morning like not you know not good for my health not good for my family like any but I was was like do I see a DA like tick you know what I mean if so then I got to redo this like yeah and and once you taught me the rotary jeweling pad is like I stopped looking at paint that way so I wasn't even trying to do that and uh even though I wasn't never get close I just didn't even you know I thought I was trying to achieve Perfection whatever that was and and this method just works yeah and you just see it from 5 ft away like a normal human would and you're like oh that's great you know um but I like I don't even know what I don't know about the things you do and yeah when when I'm called situation is usually not a good thing so it's not fun it's not enjoyable it's just getting the job done in a very short time frame yeah and that short time frame even though he spends hundreds of hours on a car it might be 20 hours a day for 10 days Street yeah we did uh the last big project we did was a Jeep um I actually did two Jeeps for SEMA in two and a half weeks one of them we did in four days from from very low grit all the way up does that stress you out just thinking about it or is that just it makes my back sore right now yeah it was uh it was a rough 4 days yeah it's it's a big job it's something that you don't take lightly and polishing should be fun it can be fun on Jason's level it's not only an art form but it's very much you know hours and hours and of skill you go into your garage if he's at home he's in Hisar it's completely different I you know I get my famous acrylic panel that I love to polish on and I just zone out and just use the rotary and just see what I can do it's really testing at that point it's testing my skills can I get it a little bit better can I do it a little bit faster that's my that's my focus right Jason is very much you know like I mentioned before the professional athlete of this you know of detailing and the fact that he'll record himself doing it and then spend time watching it to see okay I could have improved here I could have my you study your body mechanics as much as the polishing itself and that is something that a lot of people the body mechanics of what they're polishing they're overreaching they're they're hunched over they're you know doing the I want to smell the Polish sort of thing that has its place and Jason is one of the people that has to do that because of the situation he's in but if you're polishing your own car at home stand up straight just be square don't go past your shoulders there's a lot of things that we've repeated many many times on this channel we'll keep repeating so don't worry if you missed it before we'll say it later but having that posture is going to make detailing your car a lot simpler and you'll get a better result yeah yeah I know you've used our system and I I sent your products a while ago anything that you've played around with at home that that you found out is kind of a fun way or unique way to use gold sander polish or I use once once the pad is what I call happy right and uh sometimes I use this trigger spray sometimes I like to just dab it and I I I like to feel things and touch things I know that's not the way to do it but that's just me um using less is much better on that particular project so you find it you just don't need much right you can work it for a long time a DOT per panel like a dot yeah that's it it's all you need once it's happy and going the way you want it to go what's the most unique like pad polish combo with a polisher that like got you the finish that you need like finicky paint that you like couldn't finish down at your level and it was like I don't know I used a a Handa and you I don't like like what what's the craziest combo that you needed to get that paint right uh one time I actually finished out with a compound with a compound mhm yeah I I don't even remember what the car was but it was some really rare expensive European car and everything we threw at it every combination every tool just didn't work so we ended up going kind of back to the basics and it was a I think it was a firm foam pad and a a pretty aggressive compound and it was slow speed and we just kept on working it until it was almost transparent like almost not there was it a a DA or rotary it was a DA okay low speed and just you just worked it yep just worked it for like probably 20 30 minutes per panel what super slow where because it it was so soft I couldn't touch it with a brand new towel yeah it was just that finicky oh man detailers out there you think you've had finicky paint before that's a wild story yeah and you know Jason is working on these repainted vehicles and they'll have multiple multiple coats of clear and sometimes the paint you know between coat a or you know coat 6 and coat 9 they didn't mix the the the paint property yeah or they're 2 in off the surface than they were before some V some human variable that really plays a factor in how I perceive it and what I what I what how I feel it and how it's responding so one thing and I don't want to take this too much longer you recommend is getting a junkyard Hood MH first of all what advice do you have for someone out there we're talking about diyers not people who've been on cars their whole life how do I find a junkyard Hood which one do I get like where do I go like let me start there cuz I've been there and I I was wondering this too um I prefer just going to a body shop uh body shop down the street they have junk panels if you can grab a trunk or a hood which is something that you can put on a table or some sort of stand and just you know buy a buy your system and just see what you can do look at it with with the light with camera light one single Source DIY method and just try something and see what kind of result you get and if it's you're getting a good result can you go a little bit more do you need to go a little bit more that's personal preference and you're doing it on on a panel that's you're not risking a nasty repay right you have a freedom to to try things try it try speeds try pressure try different tools try sandpaper a block if you want right try yeah you can try whatever you want at that point and that becomes the enjoyable part that's why we detail is because it's enjoyable that's what it's for yeah that becomes enjoyable when when you do it at a certain level it loses some of its Joy but you know the the the rewards in that are winning the awards you know collectively uh grouping up with a team of Craftsmen that you're long you know I've been friends with some of them for over 20 years yeah now so it's that's a different segment but yeah paint polishing paint is enjoyable and you know when you're like wow I did that I I mean I took some machines some pads some combinations but I did that it's rewarding yeah it's so rewarding we're actually recording this the night before that you watch this so Jason's here for a couple more days so we actually want to know what do you want to know from Jason we read all these comments we'll answer them we're in the DIY detail garage right so this is the first video in the improved DIY detail garage uh there's still a lot of work to do you might have heard the electrician in the background uh you know dropping a few things that's fine uh but basically it's still a work in progress and and but we wanted to bring Jason here as our first person invited in the shop uh I've known Jason for many years many years and I have a immense respect for Jason and the work that he does there are not many might be a handful of people in the world world that can do what he can do with paint and a Polish with yeah so having Jason here is really an honor for me and you know we found this Ferrari uh it's local here in Omaha it'll be on uh be in The Auction Block soon so if you want a car that Jason's polished this one will be for sale eventually but this is a low mileage it has less than 10,000 miles it's all original it's a blackbook car so it it's gone through all the factory specified maintenance everything is there Jason's not going to be sanding on this car no no but my plan is to you couldn't pay me enough no exactly my plan is to kind of go through it with you and ask how do you inspect pain what are you looking for how do you evaluate what is your test spot process so we've already got some ideas but if there's something burning you know and you really want to know what his thoughts are on it please ask us and maybe we can get it into some content next couple days yeah uh and the other thing is if you want to get a hold of this guy Jason Kilmer on Instagram stagram is the best way you find him event you know sometimes on Facebook once every I pop up every here there oh where's Kilmer oh he's there he's here yeah but uh Instagram but he'll be here we'll be answering the comments from this of course every video we do and a lot of people don't know this but we do it as a premere so when the video is originally released and we do it the same time every week so you know you can podcast every Friday yeah same bat Channel same bat time yes or same DIY channel same DIY time you're dating yourself out I know yeah but with that we do a live premere and we're both on there chatting with the people are there and we usually get at least 100 people and now you know those numbers are growing exponentially the other way you can get a hold of us is through our Facebook group now we have a Facebook page like any business but we also have a Facebook group that's almost 50,000 people strong and in the description there's a link just click it yeah and it's a very fun place because if someone is not being sha friendly or polite they disappear from the group for some reason but uh you know it's a safe fun space to ask questions and there's no question that's too new there's no question that's too basic there's no question that's stupid there's occasionally a stupid answer and like I said they disappear but the people are there to help and we have professionals on that group that have been detailing like myself for 40 50 years and we have people that this is their first day and the some that person that it's their first a detailing they might have something to teach to everyone else so just because you're new in the business doesn't mean you're not learn you can't help someone uh Jason and I both do trainings I learn as much as the students do every training I do and I'm sure the same yeah same same here yeah yeah because someone that's new and fresh might have a different spin on it or or they might receive what you've information you've given to them a little bit differently than you've thought before um I probably trained four or 500 people yeah at a high level you know um and then also beginner stuff too with some other companies so I've trained a lot of people and I've heard I think most questions but there are questions sometimes that I'm like I don't know I'll have to get back to yeah yeah so if you want to know more about some of the mistakes that I feel like I've made in the past we have a video here top 10 polishing mistakes just a fun one and uh continue the learning process thanks for watching thanks Jason

Channel: DIY Detail

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Id: UAZZ8NexP-0

Length: 40min 33sec (2433 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 08 2024